Are you a rich man or, alternatively, a very attractive woman? Of course you are, you're reading this site. Silly question. But it's important that we nail down the facts; so, if for some reason you’re neither of those things, hit the bricks. Because New York Magazine and Janis Spindel would like to offer you a unique opportunity to find love (or a smokin’ hot lady/sugar daddy to have sex with in exchange for money).
Pocket Change is honoring the age old union of wealthy men and hot girls. Society has taught us to not publicly acknowledge the obvious - no longer dear friends. Women want money in a man, men want beauty in a woman – this is a factual force of nature. Women don’t ask “So, what does he do for a living?” because they’re interested in his personality and guys don’t ask “is she hot?” because they’re concerned with character. Guys know that money buys them the car, the house and the trophy wife. This genetic cleansing is how the wealthy stays beautiful.
Interested but not sure you’d make the cut? Are you straddling the line between “kind of rich” and “rich” or “kind of very attractive” and “very attractive”? Here’s Spindel and NYM’s list of requirements:
Men: Solely based on wealthSalary:
Age 25 or below: $200K+
26-30: $300K+
30+: $500K+
Invested Assets: $1 million+
Trust: $4 million+
*Men will be asked to provide documented proof
Ticket price: $500
Women:Solely based on beauty
5 pictures will be submitted to Pocket Change for judgment by celebrity Matchmaker Janis Spindel
Pictures are judged for beauty
No additional information will be accepted
Ticket Price $50
We haven't heard back from Janis's office yet but, in the meantime, perhaps some of you might be able to provide answers to the following (update: Janis answered our questions):
- Specifically what documentation should the men provide? Bank statements? Letters of employment? Deeds in their names for houses in the Hamptons? (Or is that last one too gauche?) (Janis: "documents").
-Are there specific stipulations for attractiveness, or is it just a gut feeling? (Janis: "I am an intense judge of women. They must: be well-groomed, in fantastic shape, have glowing skin, great teeth, great hair").
-Not that you couldn't be a wealthy man AND good looking but...you know...we feel like you're running the risk of getting a lot of applications from some pretty frightening looking guys. We realize you said men are judged "solely based on wealth" but that could be quite dangerous, visually speaking. Is there a baseline level of attractiveness for the men? Or should we just close our eyes and hope things don't take very long? (Janis: Without a doubt I will not take ugly men).
"Natural Selection Speed Date" [Pocket Change and NYM]
Posted by arbman , Jan 12, 2007 4:40PM
genetic cleansing.....wow.
wow.
i can't believe i actually read that and its not a joke. maybe they'll hire Slobodan Milosovic to be the host.
Posted by V. Reeves , Jan 12, 2007 5:12PM
Hey, what's wrong with "genetic cleansing"? It's only natural for a woman to want to mate with a rich, intelligent, successful (=genetically-gifted) man, or for a man to want to mate with a beautiful (=genetically-gifted) woman. Certain ethnic groups (i.e., Jews) have been pursuing for centuries advantageous mating strategies to ensure the survival and supremacy of their in-group. And there's nothing wrong with it. Grow up already.
Posted by arbman , Jan 12, 2007 5:22PM
the term "genetic cleansing" implies the existence of "unclean" genes. and that would be valid if the "unclean" genes in question were, say, genes attached to serious illnesses. but when "unclean" genes are determined by beauty and wealth (the latter of which has little to no correlation with your genetics)??? that has some pretty screwed up implications.
whats really disturbing about it is how it sounds so simlar to "ethnic cleansing", i.e. a synonym for genocide. obviously wealth/beauty speed dating isn't causing the murder of thousands of innocent people, but it would have been easy to describe it in a way that didnt bring that image to mind. these people must have hired bob nardelli to do their pr.
Posted by H , Jan 12, 2007 5:23PM
Amusing. I wonder if it is legit.
I couldn't find anything on NYmag's site. I wonder if they know they are supporting this.
Posted by H , Jan 12, 2007 5:24PM
And I do wonder what % of Manhattan qualifies. For men, I suspect a surprising number does. At least, more than many states in the US :)
Posted by V. Reeves , Jan 12, 2007 5:41PM
Beauty and wealth are clearly indicative of good genes. Again, I think it's only natural for men and women to seek out in the other those attributes (i.e., wealth, power, beauty, nice set of tits, etc.) that point to a superior genetic endowment.
Posted by Anonymous , Jan 12, 2007 6:33PM
They forgot to mention: the women must be white. Ans for the men who aren't white, minumum wealth requirements are twice as high.
Posted by Bulging Bracket , Jan 12, 2007 7:07PM
I'm sure they'll also accept Asian and fair skinned latinas.
This is horrid, but fun to watch. Look for Kissinger/Onassis levels of grotesqueness in the guys who sign up.
Posted by arbman , Jan 12, 2007 7:35PM
As a child who grew up in Greenwich, allow me to say this as a certainty: wealth very poorly correlated with good genes.
Posted by anonymous , Jan 13, 2007 2:11AM
wow this makes me want to throw up. twisted society.
Posted by Richard R. Nouveau , Jan 13, 2007 12:28PM
All, we are thrilled you will be attending, there was an inquiry as to NY Mag's involvement, following is the link:
http://nymag.com/marketplace/strictlypersonals_datingmatchmakingservices.html
Posted by Richard R. Nouveau , Jan 13, 2007 12:30PM
We especially look forward to receiving Arbman's application
Posted by beanspants1 , Jan 13, 2007 2:29PM
if the "good genes" of the men are so great, then why can't they swing a chick on their own? they've already got the bux. so all the flaunting isn't getting them much i guess.
what this means is that exceptionally ugly (but wealthy) men are going to mate with dumb bimbos, which will bring genetics of both groups back towards the mean.
i guess this is ok.
Posted by H , Jan 13, 2007 3:57PM
The link about NY Magazine's involvement doesn't address the issue or it seems to imply NY Mag is not involved.
The link is to an advertisement in their Matchmaking section. It doesn't mention sponsoship at all. Some text that isn't obviously something any schmoe can buy would be a bit more convincing.
Getting that link from you as the best demonstration of your relationship makes me more concerned that this is bogus.
Posted by Richard R. Nouveau , Jan 13, 2007 8:06PM
H, thank you for your concern.
Also, the illegal use of a logo is a serious offense. NYMag, while giving ad space (online and in print) has also asked PC to use their logo in all conjunctive promotions.
We look forward to seeing you there.
JA
Posted by Carol Piper , Jan 14, 2007 9:26AM
Well..Surprised NY is going along w/THIS...! OH well. live in CA. now anyway and my "Cleansing" days are over! Yea!
Posted by H , Jan 16, 2007 10:45AM
Ok. Since I was one of the people to voice great skepticism about the event, I went through the effort of emailing NY Magazine. They said it is legit.
The potential entertainment value of going. Hmmmm.
Posted by tammy , Jan 19, 2007 7:22PM
i love the idea of rich smart men mating with beautiful women - why not want perfect children!
Posted by Hef , Jan 24, 2007 7:13PM
Can't argue with Billions of yrs of evolution
Posted by The Man , Jan 24, 2007 7:18PM
Ah the Dowry is back.....
Ancient civilizations required a deposit so bogus guys wouldnt welch
1000 camels, gosts, sheep etc.
Guess what you need $$$ for that
Posted by disgusted in dc , Jan 25, 2007 7:52PM
this is pathetic. this is not survival of the fittest, this is discrimination toward women based on looks to exploit them to rich, dirty, old men. what a joke. you should be ashamed of yourselves. it is people like you that give the wealthy a bad name.
Posted by The Man , Jan 26, 2007 12:48PM
Oh really dc.... been to a bar, club or party and seen the 99% of "nice guys" get discriminated by hot girls....then get cheated on, diseased, ripped-off and dumped by the jerks they do pick
Posted by max , Jan 26, 2007 2:23PM
Obviously "The Man" is neither rich nor good-looking. Talk about a chip on your shoulder, geesh.
As for dc, no one is forcing either party to attend this event. If a rich guy wants a trophy wife, fine with me, I wouldn't want him anyway. If a girl wants to rely solely on her looks, fine with me, she is a moron. I see no discrimination, just dump people.
Posted by The man w.Chip , Jan 26, 2007 2:44PM
Oh explaining the historical merit of Dowry and modern day dating angst (ehich the past 10 posts exhibit) of pathetic singles scene make me a cretin/mutant with Tostitos flakes on my shoulder.....hmm Maxie
Seems like you need a mirror or lottery ticket
Its Friday cheer up
Posted by max , Jan 26, 2007 3:19PM
:)
I was referring to your obvious self-reference as the "nice guy" who gets discriminated against. If all you are looking for is a hot girl then you're probably not such a "nice guy" anyway.
Read "The Game"...maybe you just need some moves
Posted by The Man , Jan 26, 2007 3:47PM
Maxie baby :))
I'm fighting for all my boys...every man should have a fair shot at beauty.
Beauty make ever morning like x-mas morning.
ps, The Game is a ripp-off of a 70s under-ground classic thats got the real
ps2, The war on Beauty is nonsense. People admire Aesthetics....of virtue, charachter, value and body.
Beauty is power: wield it or respect it. Don't judge it.
Posted by please don't call me "maxie" :) , Jan 26, 2007 4:12PM
I think the phrase "aesthetics of character" is an oxymoron, but anyway...
I am not waging a war on beauty (I am a beauty so that wouldn't work). I am simply saying that searching for it in a bar is not a noble pursuit so to whine and say that "nice guys" don't win in that situation is ridiculous.
Girls are less superficial than guys (I am sure there will be responses to that statement) so there are plenty of ways to attract them i.e. sense of humor, intelligence, athletic prowess; which is why you constantly see hot girls with empirically unattractive guys.
(I love how we are debating this on a "wall street tabloid" blog. I work on wall street so that makes this relevant right?)
Posted by man , Jan 26, 2007 4:23PM
I'm gorgeous too.....
Back to DNA....Beauty (& hips/waist ratio) is highly correlated with fertility too. Dont want any part of in-vitro either.
Speaking of this blog....me too; its 4:21 its time to leave work early.
Posted by Bob Fleming, a.k.a. Badger Watch , Jan 26, 2007 4:27PM
I'm a complete bastard (as I am often the first to admit) and I pick up at least one "beauty" in bars every weekend. Yes, I agree, it's not a noble pursuit. In fact, it can get pretty messy and often involves twisting one's body into odd positions. But, it's damned fun! The nice guys, by contrast, are left skulking in the corners, or they stay home to masturbate instead. Nice guys finish last (literally).
Moreover, I would say women are as superficial as guys, but in different ways, which is the whole point of "Natural Selection Speed Dating." Men are attracted to beauty, and chicks are drawn to money and power, which are qualities often possessed by unattractive men. That's the way the world works. Love it or leave it, darling.
Posted by max , Jan 26, 2007 4:58PM
I guess maybe I didn't fully articulate my point but I completely agree with you Bob. I was just trying to say that superficiality begets superficiality. If all you want is a hot chick don't just be a nice guy.
And I could argue that being attracted to power is not (entirely) superficial but this is neither the time (5pm on a friday) or the place...unless someone wants to go there :)
Posted by Bob Fleming, a.k.a. Badger Watch , Jan 26, 2007 5:17PM
And I would immediately respond to you, sweetheart, by arguing that being attacted to beauty is not (entirely) superficial either, since beauty can denote superior genetic endowment.
Posted by Hef , Jan 29, 2007 10:48AM
Sugar Mama event planned next (reports NY Post). What say you now??
Posted by T. Howell , Jan 29, 2007 11:58AM
I'm all for it! I'm in Southern California and I regularly hook up with rich cougars. These women, usually in their late 30s and 40s, are incredibly attractive and sexy, rich, uninhibited, and generous as fuck. Hell, whenever I'm with a cougar I sometimes wonder what I ever saw in those 22-year olds I used to date.
Posted by Hef , Feb 01, 2007 4:00PM
I will be the official spy, I live around the corner from this place.
-I will scope out who shows up
-I will hand out my own card to the top 40 babes who leave
I will be brutally honest. No spin.
Posted by wonder , Feb 07, 2007 1:10AM
let's see how this goes.... personally, I feel the event is very shallow, but it only mirrors how shallow our society has become. Pocket Change isn't to blame though, they are only amusing the public. What they're after is publicity, and apparently, they've succeeded. May the most shallow person win in this event.
Posted by Cat , Feb 08, 2007 1:16PM
Damn! I missed this! When's the next one? I totally want to go if they hold another one again.
Posted by Katie , Feb 08, 2007 1:35PM
This is exactly why I have gone to school, received an education and now make my own money. I am beautiful, intelligent AND I can date whomever I want. So stop making generalizations and stating that "It's only natural for a woman to want to mate with a rich, intelligent, successful (=genetically-gifted) man". I would much rather marry an intelligent, faithful, attractive, charasmatic man over a rich, ugly, old guy...
I know a lot about genetics, and who is to say that the children will not inherit the man's looks and the woman's intelligence/character?? That catastrophe doesn't sound like genetic "cleansing" to me...
Posted by H. Raines , Feb 08, 2007 1:44PM
Sorry to have to break it to you, but most men don't look for intelligence and education in a woman. Those attributes are secondary. Men don't want to marry a selfish career bitch. There are other qualities -- such as beauty, personality, style, generosity, a nurturing character, etc. -- that are much more important to a man. That's why NYC is full of independent, over-educated women with stale wombs who fell hook line and sinker for feminist lies and now they can't find a man.
Posted by Katie , Feb 08, 2007 2:20PM
I am fully aware that many men prioritize beauty over all else (so don't prize yourself with the fact that you are "breaking it to me"). I am a beautiful woman and have found many men who are only interested in that. In addition, I am not a selfish career bitch. I work in academia where I have the freedom to have children and be "nurturing". There IS a such thing as the "whole package"! It is possible to be beautiful, stylish, generous, nurturing, AND smart!
I am not arguing about what men want (not being one myself, I am not going to claim to know)...I am just stating that it is a terrible generalization to state that women only want men with money. I, personally, can attest to the untruth of that statement. I have also dated many men who prefer intelligent and educated women who can hold a conversation (I am engaged to one right now)--it is just the ones who lack confidence and are intimidated by intelligence in women who purposefully search out uneducated beauties.
Posted by Katie , Feb 08, 2007 2:25PM
Typo--I meant "don't pride yourself"
Posted by , Feb 08, 2007 2:59PM
As a female I would say that it is not the money itself that I am attracted to, it is the personality type that often goes along with it. I have never fallen for a guy because he can buy me certain things but I do often fall for guys with money. I think this stems from the fact that the passion and drive that it takes to work hard and excel in something (anything really) is attractive and the confidence that come with that is just plain sexy.
As far as men not wanting intelligence in women, it is true and it is sad. Most men can't handle an equal let alone a superior which is clearly a gender flaw. For those few of you that have the balls to be challenged by a woman, trust me the relationship will be better. It is fun taking turns playing dominant :)
Posted by Hef , Feb 08, 2007 3:33PM
Read the paper.....
clue: diapers
Over-educated, career crazed tends to produce social dwarfs
Posted by Katie , Feb 08, 2007 4:40PM
I think she is the exception, not the norm...otherwise it would not be big news!
Posted by Hef , Feb 08, 2007 5:24PM
Right back at me ...wow!
Free for drinks 2nt?
Posted by Hef , Feb 08, 2007 6:32PM
OK the sell-outs have the dope:
http://www.leveragedsellout.com/2007/02/pocket-changed-my-life/
Posted by Angie , Jun 23, 2007 1:47PM
Great opinions stated and great points made. Men and Woman are both extremely confusing beings!
Posted by Sup , Nov 24, 2007 4:12PM
This is great. Ugly women should not be allowed to breed. Ugly wealthy man is o.k. because he has good genes (intelligence). This model should be followed world wide. There's a reason the Sultan of Bruni pays $100K's for women.