It’s one of the perennial mysteries of life in New York City. Big shot young Wall Streeters find themselves shelling out for bottle service at the latest lounge or night club of the moment hoping to attract women, while guys who do things like “web design” or advertising seem to scoop up the girls effortlessly. It turns out that this is not just some sort of “grass is always greener” banker dystopian fantasy. It’s scientifically true.
Here’s the bad news from the BBC:
High-flying men are not as attractive to women looking for love as those with an average job, scientists say.
Perhaps unsurprisingly, the University of Central Lancashire research found the 186 female students asked preferred good-looking men.
But within that group, those without top careers were deemed most suitable, the Personality and Individual Differences journal reported.
The team said women seemed to feel high-flyers would not be good fathers.
We suggest that females see physically attractive, high status males as being more likely to pursue a mating strategy rather than a parenting strategy
Simon Chu, lead researcher
Lead researcher Simon Chu said the high-earning career men were deemed to be “too good to be true”.
“Under particular circumstances, high socio-economic status in males can be subtly counter-productive in terms of attractiveness as a long-term partner.
“We suggest that females see physically attractive, high status males as being more likely to pursue a mating strategy rather than a parenting strategy.
Translation: you might be a BSD, but the women don’t trust you to help them out with the kids and have already figured out you’re going to cheat on them .
Why women fall for ‘Mr Average’ [BBC]
Yeah, just the other day I was noticing how Dustin Diamond did better with the ladies than George Clooney, and that the Maloof brothers weren’t getting any women, but that ticket taker in Section 105, man, he got more digits than Cramer on meth.
John, why is it a “mystery” that guys with no personalities have to buy girls drinks and guys who are smart and funny don’t?
Sorry, in my haste I meant to write “guys with no personalities, unless you count douchebaggery.” Also, sounds like the author of this post has to more or less pay for sex.
DA, we ALL pay for sex, one way or another. For some, it’s a cash transaction. For others, it’s financed, and you’ll be making payments for the rest of your life.
Carney, long-time DB reader, first-time poster: Just wondering, have you ever cheated on your girlfriend(s)?
I dated men in my industry and never will again. Worst boyfriends ever. Even worse lovers. The problem is they spend all day in a testosterone-charged environment with no women around to temper the atmosphere, discussing women in the most brutal of terms, with accompanying pictures. As a girlfriend of a banker, prepare to have every bite of salad that goes into your mouth met with a grimace, because your BF hears his boss bitch all day about how fat his wife is. The sex is abysmal. If it’s not the stress of work (which they assume you’re too stupid to understand) it’s the 5 glasses of scotch after work with the boys that renders your “BSD” woefully sans d. And should you at least want to spend time with your man and said boys? No F-ing WAY are you invited. You’re way too stupid to keep up, you’ll probably just stuff yourself on bar peanuts and appetizers, and his friends will think he’s whipped – after all, he’s never getting married anyway, because then his boss will think he’s a loser.
Conversely, banker types…if you want to get lucky (I’m not even talking about a “relationship”) stay the hell away from the metpacking bottle service – those “models” (read – russian strippers) are NOT going to go for your skinny 5’7 blue shirted ass. Just go to a normal happy hour joint, chat with the pretty girl at the bar, listen to her talk about herself for five minutes, smile, and don’t listen to your asshole friends – you would be amazed at how much tail you’ll score in this city when you act like a normal person.
So this scientific study asked a bunch of female college students? I wonder if they used the hopfully planned careers of the males the women currently date or the woman’s imagination of what it might be like to date someone wiht a career in finance? I’d be interested to see how this turns out when they are out of school and actually dating men with careers of any kind.
lets be honest: guys who are used to the best in life want a girl who is a 10. a girl who is a 10, she can have any guy she wants, and while they’ll date a rich guy, she’ll also date a struggling musician cause its sexy. i was at a party in bev hills last month, and these M&A boys were there trying to impress a table full of young model/actress types, but these girls were only interested in guys who could help their hollywood career. some PE guys who were there to finance a movie, introducing themselves as “producers”, had the girls sparkly eyed. hilarious.
It could be that women don’t want to date guys in finance because, deep down, we’re selfish assholes. But you know what? I can live with that. Personally, I pursue a “mating strategy” every weekend and I’m highly successful at it. I don’t need some fat whore nagging me about my lack of a fucking “parenting strategy.” Honestly, any chick who DOESN’T want to date a guy in finance is an overweight feminist slut and therefore isn’t worth it anyway.
lets be honest: guys who are used to the best in life want a girl who is a 10. a girl who is a 10, she can have any guy she wants, and while they’ll date a rich guy, she’ll also date a struggling musician cause its sexy. i was at a party in bev hills last month, and these M&A boys were there trying to impress a table full of young model/actress types, but these girls were only interested in guys who could help their hollywood career. some PE guys who were there to finance a movie, introducing themselves as “producers”, had the girls sparkly eyed. hilarious.
Aston Martin and Hamptons Summer crib doesnt cut it anymore. The bling now is producing movies on the side
“The bling now is producing movies on the side”
Yeah, bonds are great and all, but what I really want to do is direct!”
seriously i grew up in bev hills so celebrities were nothing more than neighbors, but to see the fidi types starstuck was priceless. not sure who was getting over on who, paris hilton had an entourage of a, b, and c list friends as fidi guys tired to explain their jobs. one girl lit up when she heard the world ‘manager’ thinking he was a TALENT manager. wish i had a video.
You can all go fuck yourselves.
I’m in OC and you should see the local whores light up (*ka-ching!*)when I mention I work in hedge fund$. Seriously, sometimes I’m offered more pussy than I know what to do with.
Yeah, wallstreetgurl, I was there, dont lie i know you had a good time. You left out the part where the hollywood guy was making his pitch “its not MYspace or YOUtube, our company is called OURmovieset, we really make movies and it’s all of ours”. This guy should come east and work the street, he was closing deals left and right. Of course he had 2 dozen actresses as power point presentations.
is that the ad on investors.com and IBD everyday: ‘invest in indie films go to http://www.OurMovieSet.com‘? I’m guessing bigswinger bought a few shares. (hope you got laid at least, bro)
Why are “anonymous” people so bitter? i did my due dilligence and the guy who directed their movie Joel Viertel is the son of Tom Viertel, who raises the PE for just about every show on broadway (the Producers, Hairspray, a dozen others). I think they have some credibilitly. And if you dont think guys in show business don’t get laid, well, you ought to maybe get to know the New York film and theater scene and see for yourself
Homo sex doesn’t count.
Hey by the way, where the fuck is University of Central Lancashire. Obviously those girls do not care about money and status because they came from some rundown trailer park family background. Girls who are smart want stable lives, and those who hate bankers are average joes who need a way to compensate mentally for their mediocraty. Utopia only exists in theory…
i have an opinion on this too: my thought is that, even though I don’t work in finance exactly, i also have a nebulous, big money job, where the terms of the job are beyond the average person’s comprehension. NDA’s make it even worse.
regular people don’t understand spending $600 – $800k in 2 months on some project, much less ‘millions’, unless its for something tangible like a hollywood movie.
maybe a building, but i doubt many chicks are super impressed by architects either.
anyways, when you tell what you do, and explain your hopes and fears, they just go straight over peoples’ heads, and people don’t trust things they don’t understand.
it’s kind of a bummer, and really leads to a somewhat isolated worldsphere – where the only people you can talk about your job is to your co-workers. if they are roughly your age, and you go out with them on a regular basis, then mentioning the industry turns into douchebaggery.
continuing on, i think that’s why so many females go for (and parents want their children to become) doctors and lawyers. Grey’s Anatomy, Ally McBeal, Scrubs, and dozens of movies have made those professions easier to understand, where outsiders can speak the language.
all finance shows are much more protracted, (how much time did they spend on wallstreet in Trading Places?)
where finance is just a token plot element rather than honestly explored.
Oh indeed, my chances of scoring increase exponentially when my hump-target’s parents understand the technicals of a basket of interest rate swaps.