Thirty-four first-year MBA students at Duke University’s Fuqua School of Business have been disciplined for cheating, the school disclosed yesterday. Nine may be expelled, while the others face a year suspension. The names of the students involved aren’t being released due to federal student privacy restrictions.
As Bloomberg points out, business schools students are the biggest cheaters.
Business students are more likely to cut corners than those in any other academic discipline, several studies show. A Rutgers University survey last year found that cheating at business schools is common, even after ethics courses were added following scandals that bankrupted Enron Corp. and WorldCom Inc.“What is taught in a business program sometimes reinforces” students’ tendencies to be entrepreneurial and results-oriented, said Timothy Dodd, 50, executive director of the Center for Academic Integrity at Duke, in an interview from Durham, North Carolina. “Those sometimes aren't the people who understand that moral means have to be used to achieve moral ends.”
Or the problem might be that the people who are running the ethics and academic integrity programs at our major university believe that being “entrepreneurial” undermines ethics. Or that human behavior—yes, strangely, even business school students respond like ordinary humans—can be changed with Kantian platitudes rather than incentives. At least one business school we know of avoids these cheating scandals by refusing to release its students' grades, which greatly reduces the incentive to cheat.
Duke Cheating Probe Shows Failure of Post-Enron Ethics Classes [Bloomberg]
Posted by MSM Hack , May 01, 2007 10:26AM
I gots me an MBA.
If you're not cheating, you're not trying.
Posted by iops , May 01, 2007 11:11AM
Just declare the school to be a "No-Cheating School" ... that works well with guns!
Posted by Atl_Boy , May 01, 2007 11:19AM
I hope someone does some research on cheating in Computer Science related programs -- it is rampant and because some of the students there are more technologically gifted, their actions go undetected.
Posted by , May 01, 2007 11:33AM
they should all be expelled
Posted by coozledad , May 01, 2007 11:36AM
Duke's race for money has left it with with a surfeit of reptilian students who not only cheat, but walk out of libraries with materials and destroy them, to limit competition. The Med and Engineering programs are rife with this behavior.
Remember, Dick Nixon attended law school here, and conducted his own burglary of test materials. Got caught, too.
The head of the board of trustees has now been unmasked as a whorehopper, and Bush himself has recruited apologists from the ranks of its poli sci dept to slut for him on the TV.
Screw Duke. It's a finishing school for Jersey trash.
Posted by Gordon Gekko , May 01, 2007 11:50AM
It's not enough that I succeed, everyone else must fail.
Posted by Mike A , May 01, 2007 12:02PM
You're only cheating yourself. I never understoood cheaters and cheating.
Posted by Bugs Meany , May 01, 2007 12:06PM
>> Screw Duke. It's a finishing school for Jersey trash.
I had a great experience there but that is so, so true. Bravo.
Posted by Old China Hand , May 01, 2007 12:06PM
This may be news at Duke, but the most debauched school systems in the world are in Mainland China, and the increased intake from China is bringing old habits to roost at US universities. Many if not most Mainland Chinese students hire 'sit-ins' to take their GMAT examinations for entry to US MBA programs (you can find many web pages that advertise for this service). In Chinese executive programs, it is common for ranking executives to 'delegate' their examinations to underlings. Welcome, Duke, to the new world of international education.
Posted by anonymous , May 01, 2007 12:09PM
as someone who teaches undergrads, in a different discipline, there is a special joy associated with catching business students cheating...and failing them for it.
Posted by Dr. JohnG , May 01, 2007 12:13PM
I read the Fuqua Honor Code, it assumes that students are not honorable and makes them swear to be honorable. The code also confounds some fundamentals of good instructional practice. It seems to be a narrow minded, expedient way to promote honesty in education, no wonder Duke's Fuqua School has problems.
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Posted by miami , May 01, 2007 12:15PM
Some B-schools don't release grades, GPA, or class rank [unless you're top 5%], sounds like more schools should take that tactic.
Posted by Jello , May 01, 2007 12:34PM
There appear to be two main roots this diabolical problem:
First, too many people have a cheating/lying problem, and they often attend B-School.
Second, and perhaps much worse, schools and recruiters have created a horrible reality. They annually take a new bunch of overachievers, put them in the same group, tell them that the pinnacle of success which they should all demand of themselves if they are to make their investment of time and energy worthwhile, is to be in the top 5-10% of their peers. For all of them to acocmplish this is is absolutely impossible. Thus, 90-95% of these students will be prodded to pursue this insane goal, only to find out that it they have been set up for "failure."
Give these students a new definition of success that doesn't inherently fail 95% of them, and maybe you won't be seeing this kind of nonsense going on nearly as much. Build up the students, don't hold them back with this lame definition of succes. Duke, time to lead the way.
Posted by , May 01, 2007 1:35PM
This certainly fits with what I've seen being involved in business for the last 20 years. The people who steal, cheat, lie, mislead customers & internal staff are the ones rewarded the most financially. I've had our number one salesman tell me that he only became really 'successful when he could lie and not be detected'. I've yet to see a manager/CEO say to anyone on the staff - 'we cheated on getting that order or we mislead the customer, let's return the money.' It's always - 'great job, how can we get more money out of them.
Posted by Pat , May 01, 2007 1:53PM
I have met only one business person in 25 years that had any morals. Cheating is nothing, wait till you see the greed that these business leaders will get into.
Posted by Pat , May 01, 2007 1:54PM
I have met only one business person in 25 years that had any morals. Cheating is nothing, wait till you see the greed that these business leaders will get into.
Posted by , May 01, 2007 1:59PM
I have seen a business person who cheated & stole promoted and his associate who acted honestly reprimanded for not bringing in the business. This behavior starts at the top which only cares about how much money they make (there are a few exceptions but like any group, they are the rare ones).
Posted by wldctrader , May 01, 2007 2:02PM
These students need to hold themselves to the highest standards of ethics. It's just a matter of time that they get caught.
Posted by optimistic gold , May 01, 2007 2:07PM
Hey Jello, I agree with your comments but, I'm confused with the second line. What does the letter B-school represent?
Posted by ag , May 01, 2007 4:17PM
Isn't this bound to happen when society does not value moral behaviour in an 'intrinsic' way. It only occassionally seems to value morality but only because immoral or amoral behaviour creates problems for the members of the society.
Essentially, children are given the impression that there is really no right or wrong and the only things of real value are money, power, sex. Then when they end up cheating and lying, we are shocked that they didn't understand that they were supposed to supposed to practice morality (at least to just such an extent) while not really believing in it
Posted by LippyTex , May 01, 2007 4:38PM
No Cheater Left Behind...
What we need are high achieving cheaters. Enron showed that they were a magnet for those possessing low cunning. That trend must be broken.
Isn't there some way to get the higher, better breed of cheater? Can't we start teaching people how not to get caught cheating in grade school or at least middle school? Call it: "No cheater left behind..." or something?
Posted by Esther Blasingame , May 01, 2007 6:08PM
I once worked for a white family who had two sons at Duke and know first hand how they plotted and lied to get exam materials. Twenty years later one son is in prison, and the other is under indictment for securities fraud. The son with the securities firm tried to get me to invest my meager savings several times. I laughed in his face. Until our schools teach morals and honesty, and parents insist on honesty there is no end to the sorrow we face. Renounce Satan while you may.
Posted by Anonymous , May 02, 2007 1:47AM
Too dumb to do well without cheating, and too dumb to cheat without getting caught. How did they get there in the first place?
Posted by bcnyc , May 02, 2007 2:49AM
I agree that all should be expelled. However, part (only part!) of the problem lies in the system- top MBA programs encourage group discussion for most assignments. Students usually work together on research projects, etc. During a take-home exam they remain in this mode and cheating may not feel so much like cheating but more like healthy group discussion. Take home exams invite this kind of behavior and should be eliminated if a program is serious about their code of conduct....
Posted by Jello , May 02, 2007 9:13AM
Optimistic Gold: Thanks for your comment. B-School = business school.
Posted by anonymous , May 02, 2007 11:50AM
Anyone who doesn't know that "B-school" is slang for business school, is a real dumbass. Anyone know how many of the cheaters are foreign students? When I was at b-school, there was a case involving several foreign MBA students (mostly Asians) caught cheating.
Posted by Anthony , May 03, 2007 2:07AM
I am a Fuqua first year and I have to say that I have neither heard about nor seen cheating happen here until this. All of the accused are Asian international students (Chinese, Taiwanese, and a few Korean). They all (around 30 students) (allegedly) got together for our Decision Models take home final exam and had a "d-mods party" (thats what they allegedly called it) at a home and took the test together....I always wondered how most of these kids got 760 and 770 GMATs when they can hardly speak English (see references to GMAT cheating in an earlier post!).....
Posted by Rob , May 03, 2007 10:36AM
I agree with Miami's comment above - Best solution is to go back to a non-disclosure policy for grades. B-schools have only recently started disclosing grades to potential employers. However, the grade-disclosure practice is more prevalant among financial institutions that are looking for analysts with 20 pound brains as opposed to true business leaders.
Posted by K , May 03, 2007 5:13PM
To Anthony - you could not get high GMAT score because you are stupid - how come i heard that all student cheats are not international students.
Posted by , May 03, 2007 5:18PM
to Old China Hand - without even know where China is, please stop bs. You just have to accept the fact that so many excellent Chinese coming and take jobs from a loser like you.
Posted by , May 03, 2007 5:18PM
to Old China Hand - without even know where China is, please stop bs. You just have to accept the fact that so many excellent Chinese coming and take jobs from a loser like you.
Posted by , May 03, 2007 5:18PM
to Old China Hand - without even know where China is, please stop bs. You just have to accept the fact that so many excellent Chinese coming and take jobs from a loser like you.
Posted by , May 03, 2007 5:19PM
to Old China Hand - without even know where China is, please stop bs. You just have to accept the fact that so many excellent Chinese coming and take jobs from a loser like you.
Posted by losers? , May 03, 2007 5:45PM
should be "losers like you", right? Old China Hand won't have "jobs"; he/she has only one job at a time.
Posted by Anthony , May 03, 2007 8:48PM
K,
You're right, I'm stupid with my lowly 750 GMAT that I EARNED, not cheated. (no prep course, since I was working as a banker and didn't have the time) I take it you're Chinese and at Fuqua....why don't you take the SAT or GED without "preparation" and see how you do, much less the GMAT? I take it you spent 3 months studying every past question on Chasedream and other such sites? That email from Breeden was probably bs....28 out of the 34 guilty students were from China or Taiwan. If you're not a Fuqua student, you heard wrong. The vast majority ARE internationals.
Posted by songriver , May 03, 2007 9:01PM
To Anthony and Old China Hand, I am a Chinese student at Fuqua. First, without any formal information released, it is not a wise idea to start the gossip and point fingers. Second, even if the majority of the accused are Asians, don't criticize the whole population due to the mistakes of a few. Suppose there were Chinese involved in the scandal, I would feel ashamed towards their wrongdoing. But I would not rush to the ridiculous conclusion as you two. We also see Enron and Worldcom. But we do not make the generalization that all Americans are liars. No people in the world is perfect. This incident is a good example.
Posted by anonymous1 , May 03, 2007 9:18PM
Those poor students got caught because they are less experienced. Others know how to cheat and when to cheat. And the university will help them to cover up.
Posted by MY , May 03, 2007 9:46PM
To Anthony and Old China Hand,
I am from mainland China and I went to Duke. I feel ashamed of what some Chinese students did at Fuqua. I have to admit that some Chinese/Asian students do cheat on GMAT, GRE, or other exams, and I feel sorry for them. But I have to remind you guys that there're many more honest and hard-working Chinese/Asian students out there. It's not fair to say that people from China/Asia are all cheaters. Also, I don't think cheating is part of Chinese culture. It's just because these days some people in China are chasing money as the only of fulfilling their dreams (yeah, that's why they call the website chasedream.com) while forgetting what a "good" person should be like. I don't agree with them and I think they deserve the punishment they've received. I am glad American society is still maintaining a minimum respect for ethics (at least I hope so).
But I think Songriver also has a point: don't generalize about people so quickly. People are still different, even if they are from the same country or the same continent.
Posted by Anthony , May 03, 2007 10:10PM
My,
I am sorry if my tone was harsh or if I implied all Asians, Chinese are cheaters. It is unfortunate what has happened, and I feel especially bad for the ones in my section. I think you are right in that most of these students are brought up with the pressure to be perfect to earn the big bucks. I think that going to grade non-disclosure at Fuqua would help out...the sad thing about the scandal is that most of these students are very smart and didn't need to cheat. The obsession to get the SP drove them to do it.
Posted by alsochinesemba , May 07, 2007 6:10PM
Another thing is that top US MBA programs admitted too many Chinese recently. Those students may be perfectly good businesspersons but they are NOT capable of studying in US, because of language, academic competency etc.
To get a US MBA, they have to inflate their GPA, hire a pro to write essays, prep past GMAT questions for months (if they're going to take it themselves), write the recommendation themselves, provide fake info about their references etc.
Now they are at a top and tough program, workload is brutal even to native speakers, let alone culture change, job, networking parties etc. It's really more than they can manage so most resort their old solution - fake it.
Posted by anonymous , May 07, 2007 7:13PM
The worst thing about importing Asian students to US MBA programs is that American students and US businesses lose out. Not only do these Asian MBA students benefit from their lying and cheating (that is, if they don't get caught), but they also take advantage of affirmative action programs, special scholarship programs, diversity hiring initiatives, and assorted private and public sector schemes designed to grant a host of skin priviliges to non-whites--even foreigners! And what is more, many of these students eventually return to Asia. Corporate espionage and insider dealing incidents are often perpetrated by non-US nationals, for the benefit of these individuals' home country. When I attended a top b-school, the Asian students were a notoriously insular, self-absorbed group that did not socialize much with the other students. Quite a number of them admitted to us that they planned to get an MBA, work in US industry for a few years, and then take that knowledge (trade secrets?) back to their home country. So, you have to ask, what is in it for the US? Why admit all of these foreign students in the first place? For US b-schools, admitting foreigners to their MBA program certainly raises the school's international profile. But for American students and US businesses, it's a major liability.
Posted by alsochinesemba , May 07, 2007 7:31PM
Most US MBA programs do seek students all around the world. I would say 15-30% is healthy "allocation" for foreign students for the whole class to get a more global prospective.
The problem is what kind of int'l students. If they are really honest, knowledgeable, fun people who can live up to the challenge, that's great. Unfortunately, the adcoms of almost all top MBA programs, esp big ones, did a very poor job in screening int'l applicants.
Posted by Shawn , May 07, 2007 10:32PM
Asian people should stop being ashamed of other Asian's action. Asian's shame ridden culture is counterproductive. I am American born Asian. I have never understood why Asian people feel ashame about something other Asian do. You don't see American/white people saying sorry for all the cheating and atrocities that they commit.
It seemed like this comment section have been infiltrated by coward racialists. Stop pointing to race, because you fighting a losing battle. If you think Asians commit most of the white collar crimes, you haven't been reading the news lately. God you are dumb.
Posted by wa , May 08, 2007 4:14AM
To Anthony
Now, I can see the real quality of fuqua mba as u. Maybe ur info is true or just rumor. You suck.
Posted by fuqua , May 09, 2007 5:26AM
To Songriver,
You want more information? Here's more information.
There are altogether 28 students from mainland China in the first-year Fuqua MBA program. Out of these, 22 of them cheated. Here are their names:
Yu Cheng EXPELLED
Yu (Harry) Huang EXPELLED
Hua (Dianthe) Jin EXPELLED
Shen Lu EXPELLED
Jun (Kevin) Qin EXPELLED
Degang (Kendall) Shen EXPELLED
Dan (Chelsea) Wei EXPELLED
Hua (Stella) Zhang EXPELLED
Hanlan (Angela) Fu SUSPENDED
Wei (Vealla) Sun SUSPENDED
Jingxiu (Kane) Zhang SUSPENDED
Lin Zheng SUSPENDED
Pingfan (Elle) Zhou SUSPENDED
Di Wu REPEAT
Qian (Harry) Wang REPEAT
Chunning (Christine) Yang REPEAT
Yong Yang REPEAT
Jizhi (Justin) Yao REPEAT
Hongmiao (Hugo) Zhao REPEAT
If you understand Chinese, check out the source for more information:
http://xys.org/xys/ebooks/others/science/dajia8/fuqua.txt
Posted by , May 10, 2007 6:20AM
I don't think you have the right to expose their names. That's privacy ok? They have made mistake for once and you are making a much worse mistake to ruin their whole life.
Posted by A Fuqua Student , May 10, 2007 10:03AM
Some facts:
1. It is true a MAJORITY of the students are Asian - in this PARTICULAR episode. No denying that.
2. It is also true a MAJORITY are of Chinese ancestry or directly from China...
3. Remember there are a few who are residents of the US as well. 22 does not make 35!
4. As well there are residents from two other continents (could be Europe, South America, Africa or Australia - your pick). Last I checked no one went to B-school from the arctic or antarctic
Why did they cheat?
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We will never for sure know what drove them to cheating. Was it a cop out, or driven by need to get a SP as some point out. Was it pressure or something else... we will never know.
What (sensible) people already know
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1. Does this mean cheating is cultural?
NO!!!!
I come from a country where cheating is rampant, including forms such as graft and bribery at the higher levels. However, we are not taught to cheat nor told its ok to cheat. The culture (much older and richer) does not propagate or condone cheating. To insinuate "its in their culture" is a disservice to humanity and to the history that has preceded them.
To jest, on the same token one could argue that domination, and hegemony are in the US culture - slavery, wars in Vietnam, Korea and now Iraq. Would that be right to blame all the Americans for the actions of more than a few?
Or more closer to home - the business world, the Ken Lay's and the Enrons and Worldcomms should signify that all Americans are cheats, or all European Americans are liars and pilferers. Or how about the CFO at Veritas who lied that he had an MBA from Stanford when all he did was study BA or some such innocuous thing from somewhere in Idaho. He was writing the books for a multi-billion dollar company, made a lot himself and was not Asian or African American but ..... Should we say then that the Chinese cheat at school where as the Whites don't even bother going to one...
The point being, its easy to sit in the arm chair and paint a broad brush. Anyone can do it. The more mature, and sensible amongst us are usually capable of taking a few steps back, reviewing the facts and not rushing to sweeping judgements/conclusions.
Secondly, if it were only Asians who were cheating, one would be led to believe that more than 50% of the class at MBA schools in the US are international and of chinese ancestry. A recent poll of MBA students at top schools suggests that 56% owned up to cheating or lying in some form in exams. Now tell me these are all Chinese!
To the Asian Students:
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If I were Chinese, I would not feel ashamed. I would feel sorry for these students as for anyone else hell bent on ruining their careers. I would however educate other Chinese students on the ills about copying. While cheating maybe rampant and the laws against it are in the books in so called cultures of cheating; maybe they are not adhered to as strictly as in the US. Maybe the consequences need to be made clearer!
About handouts and stealing secrets and such
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I can only speak from example. Having come to this country many moons ago and working my way through school with multiple degrees in various field, working in industries as diverse as manufacturing, hitech, consulting etc, nothing was handed out to me.
I struggled, unemployed for months after graduating from a top five school - because most employers wanted a green card.
Once employed, I worked nights in a melting shop, because they could not find anyone else to work the graveyard shift. I went back to school on my sleep time during the day and adequately prepared myself for the hi-tech boom. I profited from that on the dint of my labors, not yours or the US government. I thank the country for the opportunities however and will try and repay it in more ways than one!
Now, having spent many years in this country, I got sworn in as a citizen of the US. I am proud to be a citizen of this great country and I value the opportunities it provides to its people if they are willing. I cherish its culture, and work towards its betterment.
I cannot but speak out when someone unmercifully alleges that all Chinese are bad or are cheaters, or that they are here to work for a few years and take the secrets back to their country.....
These things may be true for a few, but the vast majority of folks who come here work hard with fewer comforts, and all to make a honest days living for their own betterment, all the while contributing to the US society at large.
In closing I hope you wont take a myopic view on issues especially those as sensitive as this one. Some of you on this board seem to be educated; one has to wonder what effect the degrees had on your inner growth. Maybe you cheated yourself or are still cheating yourself if you do not uphold the values of the education that was instilled in you.
Posted by Anonymous , May 10, 2007 11:42AM
Chinese students from China are hypercompetative, insular conspirators who lack respect for their host culture and language.
Posted by anonymous , May 10, 2007 12:13PM
Cheating, lying, and corruption are rife in Asia and the Middle East, as anyone who has done business in the region or with Asians/Middle Easterners knows. I don't know why it is so hard to admit this.
I'm not saying cheating is unheard of in Western (especially Northern European) countries, but it is much less prevalent.
As the US becomes more multicultural and we lose our common values and common culture, I think increased racial competition will cause more people, especially resentful outsiders such as Asians, to resort to cheating in order to "make it" in American society. The US is becoming more multiracial, and one of the biggest problems with this, aside from obvious problems such as the increasing racial conflict, is the loss of interpersonal trust engendered by growing racial and cultural diversity.
US higher education is merely an industry, nothing more, so I suppose it's unrealistic to expect MBA programs to stop recruiting foreigners. But, maybe Asian students can somehow be dissuaded from attending US b-schools. Just a thought.
Posted by anti-anonymous , May 10, 2007 1:39PM
anonymous,
Cheating occurs in all countries including the US. If you don't believe this, you are fooling no one but yourself. Just look at the statistics and the methods employed to cheat in high-schools in the US. The same continues in College.
a recent study showed 56% of students in MBA programs cheat or lie. Of course they would all be chinese according to you.
Sure they cheat everywhere, but you have to just look at the number of innocent lives destroyed by ken lay and his types at enron and worldcom. come on admit it you can't pick the lesser of two evils here.
US becoming multicultural.. uh huh... I thought the discussion was about cheating in schools...As some of the posters correctly pointed out cheating is not culturally condoned... I have a feeling you are one of those radicals who would cleanse the US of everyone if you had your way.
Did you know the original inhabitants of this country were of Asian descent.... now go figure that out christopher!
anti-anonymous
Posted by Chinese MBA , May 11, 2007 2:10AM
to anonymous:
I am from China and I have got my MBA 10 years ago from top 20 MBA program and worked for fortune 50. I must say your comment really reflect your shoot sight of international students and culture of other countries. May I say your comment is really rooted deeply from your racist mind. If you do not thing what I said is correct, how do you think about the word I made from your logical of thinking: Most White Americans are liers, sincealmost all of the corporate white collar criminal caught are white who grow up in US..... Make sense to you?
Posted by Dummies , May 15, 2007 10:53PM
Who the hell discolosed the names of students? I'd delete that immediately. If you are to blame Chinese students, while posting names, you're close to an animal. (If you're Chinese shame on you)
Posted by , May 17, 2007 2:53AM
I cannot believe some of the comments that people are writing herein. This is the type of behavior that led to Enron, Worldcom and other business debacles of this era. I cannot believe the lack of personal integrity that people are displaying. The comment "if you don't cheat you're not trying" is not only an ignorant statement by a very stupid person but it's an indication that the problems that have led to legislative decisions that has cost corporations billions of dollars will continue. Unchecked they will cost this country it's dominance in the business world.
I am personally know of one of these students and in my opinion they should all have been expelled from Duke and their names released to the public. Cheating of this nature clearly shows a lack of personal integrity, a lack of honesty and a willingness to just get by that ultimately will lead to personal failure. It's a sad statement but I am not surprised that this person was not only stupid enough to cheat, but that he/she got caught in the process.
I am a senior manager in a fortune 50 corporation and I do not condone this behavior and have personally called people of this caliber out. In every case I have seen those who "cheat" in the business world eventually fail.
Posted by Anon , May 17, 2007 3:04AM
Bottom line is, Asians don't belong in US business schools. US corporations don't require importing Asian workers. Asian MBA students are corrupt, anti-social bigots who are prone to cheating in order to succeed in the US. Western industry does not require Asian imports. Now fuck off back to Asia, cheaters and racists.
Posted by Anti-Anon, Pro Diversity , May 18, 2007 11:33PM
Dear ANON,
Judging from your comments, I think most of the readers of this blog will agree on the following points:
1. you are definitely part of the US population that does not own a passport and hence not left the country (est at 50% or so) yet
2. maybe you are educated at least to undergraduate level, maybe graduate level as well BUT
3. you obviously reflect the fact that even an American born and American educated individual can reach an age of "maturity" and still be a narrow minded and ignorant idiot
Saying that Asians don't belong in US business schools is like me saying US Corporations don't belong in Asia or in Europe or anywhere else.
And just for the record regarding the WorldCom and Enron scandals, I know you probably don't read that much or watch the news, but these guys were corrupt, non-Asian, and MBA grads.
Posted by , May 22, 2007 10:50PM
We all forget about INDIANS..THEY cheat at all level and I am tired of seeing US media portray those people as the brightest...Just watch them on ANY Exam...I told on one during a math exam and he got an F for the class...
F!@$ him !
Posted by John Anderson , May 23, 2007 12:23AM
Folks,
What is MBA stands for ? Master of Bullshit Administration, thus you have to be a master of bullshit and cheating, in order to excel in the business environment.
As far as I'm concern, they all go A+.
Posted by bluedevil , Jun 07, 2007 11:20PM
to the person ("fuqua") who posted the names - I don't know what sadistic pleasure you obtained by publishing the names.
If your list is correct (and I don't know if it is), I must say that I can recognize some of the names on that list and personally know them. In my opinion, they are some of the most hard working and intelligent guys I know.
I seriously don't understand how you (or anyone) could publish their names. Do you have no decency?
Maybe you cheat on a girlfriend/wife/boyfriend/husband someday - how would you feel if your best friend rather than just giving you good advice (and a smack) posted your name on a website so that everyone could ridicule you? I guess every dog has his day, and today is yours. Enjoy the time while you can, @$$hole.
I for one really wish and pray that you have friends who post your "deeds" someday on a website somewhere.
Posted by anonymous , Jun 08, 2007 9:51AM
"If your list is correct (and I don't know if it is), I must say that I can recognize some of the names on that list and personally know them."
bluedevil, are you also part of this Chinese mafia of cheating? I take it that you're part of a sleeper cell?
Posted by bluedevil , Jun 28, 2007 7:00PM
nah, i'm not (I'm not even Chinese if that helps!)
I just found it absolutely ridiculous to list names - there certainly seems to be a sense of schadenfreude and I guess I don't appreciate it too much (if at all).
Posted by , Jul 03, 2007 6:26PM
Why Duke has so many scandals? Sex scandal, cheating scandal.....what next? The faculties should think about it...... Prevention is more important than penalty.
Posted by guest , Jun 03, 2008 4:23PM
@ coozledad
How does Duke = anything related to New Jersey?
Posted by guest , Jul 06, 2008 9:51PM
b-schooler is for losers. go to law school is you have any self respect.
Posted by guest , Jul 06, 2008 9:51PM
b-school is for losers. go to law school is you have any self respect.
Posted by guest , Feb 04, 2009 7:59PM
All of the Asian students in my class cheated. 3 of them were on my team, and there was more than one instance where we wrote a paper collectively, and after researching their part I found they had completely plagiarized it. Like, literally pulled it off a webpage and pasted it in MS Word, and gave it to me. 2 other Asian students were caught cheating during the middle of an exam and expelled.
My good friend told me about the one Asian on his team who handed him plagiarized work on more than one occasion as well.
There were a total of 9 Asian students in my class. There were Indian students, middle eastern students, French students, German students, Canadian students, people from everywhere in my class. The only people that were ever caught cheating, or who I was told cheated, were all Asian. 2/3 of them. That says quite a bit.