Equity Analysts: A Dying Breed?

jamesimons.jpgHedge funds are often touted as “early adopters” of new investment methods and developing strategies for doing this super cool thing called making money. Algorithmic trading, long short (cutting edge when Alfred Jones did it), the free gift-with proxy battle giveaway. All started at hedge funds. So it stands to reason that HFs will probably be ahead of the curve when they fire all of their equity analysts, as Tanya Beder, quant industry vet and noted hater of equity analysts, thinks they ought to do. She thinks computers should replace the EAs who, through her hate-tinted glasses, aren’t pulling their weight, not to mention not doing anything that couldn’t be done by a computer.

“Given the same set of factors, it will always produce the same result,” Beder hissed today. “Its signals are pure and systematic.” She argues that the next logical step is to supplant equity analysts with machines, and soon. Beder didn’t get her all-star returns at Caxton by tying a bunch of dead weights to her payroll.

Sandy Gross is gentler with regard to the unnecessary leaches whose services are no longer required at their companies. It’s not that hedge funds necessarily want to gather up their non-performing flock, take them around back and fire a few rounds off, they have to, in order to make room for the quant “rocket scientists” for which there is a “great demand.” (Here’s a good example of the difference between hedge funds and Dealbreaker: we demand mediocrity at best.)

[Insert obligatory Ren Tech/DE Shaw chest bump here, which symbolizes the proven success of quants].

Brad Hintz, financial services analyst at AllianceBernstein, noted that “there are lots of arguments as to why equity analysts are doomed,” and even rambled off a few ("regulatory investigations into analyst conflicts, the technology stock crash.") But you probably know something that Brad doesn't. Feel free--dare we say encouraged-- to share it with us now.

Equity analysts facing new quant challenge [Reuters]

Comments

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Posted by RT , May 31, 2007 3:31PM

sort of off topic, but 5 and 45 remains completely absurd and ridiculous to me.

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Posted by anonymous , May 31, 2007 4:05PM

Where can I pick up a pair of hate-tinted glasses? My current pair of specs are merely tinted in mild loathing.

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Posted by fe , May 31, 2007 4:25PM

mba's suck.

MSFE (mastes fin. engineering) rules.

Welcome your new FE overlords!!!

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Posted by Anonymous , May 31, 2007 4:53PM

"MSFE fules"

Blah...that's not who they're talking about. There is about 1% engineering in a MSFE degree. These guys are going after ACTUAL engineers (electrical, computer, systems, etc.) and mathematics majors.

P.S. I was a computer engineer so I know all about your MSFE b.s...I also know that everytime I was sent back to a major recruiting school, I was told to ditch the MSFE resumes.

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Posted by anonymous , May 31, 2007 5:12PM

But what are DE Shaw and RenTec actually DOING? For example, is their trading really 100% automated, or are decisions being made by humans? Nobody has a clue (except for insiders, who aren't talking).

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Posted by Alex , Jun 01, 2007 9:55AM

What I'd be fascinated to know is how these guys get around non-standard problems of differing GAAP's in different markets and how they pull reliable data - they sure aren't using bloomberg and capitaliq can be a sh!tshow itself sometimes. I'm waiting for XBML or some other standardization of this data that I can download into a program rather than having to do this all laboriously and thus avoid screwing up by getting the wrong numbers. This is particularly problematic in emerging markets. As for the genius of quants, a lot of these funds are not doing quite so well as they were before -- sometimes actually having some depth of understanding of businesses does not hurt, especially when one's ability to automate the mundane parts of equity research is questionable.

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Posted by The Corner , Jun 02, 2007 10:48PM

I must agree with Alex. Let's keep on mind that the markets have been excellent the past few years and anyone can make money in a good market. Let's see how the quants do when the markets are going down, or worse, nowhere at all.

And I am also worried about how people in our business know increasingly little about money making processes of corporations.

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