The Futility of Taxing The Carry

Our Capitol Hill lawmakers don’t feel your pain. Despite the recent turmoil in the financial markets and the bloodletting at many so-called “quant” funds, lawmakers are putting pressure on the Fed not to cut interest rates and continue to push ahead with plans to raise taxes on private equity firms. A new study from a Penn Law professor, however, suggests that the proposed tax hike will not generate very much by way of revenues for the government.

Part of the reason that raising taxes on private equity won’t generate more revenue is that fund managers are likely to change the way they are compensated. Carried interest will decrease while fees increase, and since the fees are tax deductible business expenses, the tax effect is a wash.

About $200 billion a year is invested every year in private-equity funds and between $12 billion and $17 billion in carried interest is granted, Knoll wrote. Taxing that carried interest as ordinary income would generate between $2 billion and $3.2 billion in additional taxes annually, he said.

Private-equity firms probably would find ways to avoid the added tax burden, Knoll said. The firms may raise fees on wealthy individuals, who can deduct the higher fees, or shift costs to the companies in their portfolios, he said.

"For such companies, the payment of a contingent fee to a private-equity firm in exchange for its assistance in selecting the directors, hiring the managers, and helping to restructure and operate the business would likely qualify as an ordinary and necessary business expense,'' that can be deducted from income, Knoll wrote. Such a strategy may generate ``little or no net increase in tax collections.''

Buyout Firm Tax Boost Won't Raise Revenue, Study Says [Bloomberg]

Download pdf file of Knoll's paper [SSRN]

Comments

Posted by , Aug 22, 2007 3:21PM

Eric Cantor (most likely well greased by PE guys) and good old Congressman Paul are probably the only two republicans that will actually oppose this "closing of a loophole" as Grassley puts it.

Posted by , Aug 22, 2007 3:23PM

That's ok. They'll just tax the tax deductions.

Posted by ur, Aug 22, 2007 3:51PM

why aren't they helping out the quants. All those quants losing millions of dollars and no dems demanding us hard working tax payers fork over our money?

How they going to enjoy the strip shows like those katrina follks?

Posted by Robert Merton, Aug 22, 2007 3:55PM

When is congress/senate/gov't in general going to realize they can't outsmart the smartest guys in the room?

Posted by , Aug 22, 2007 3:58PM

The only person Congress can outsmart is the President.

Posted by Irony Man, Aug 22, 2007 4:00PM

Thanks, (fake) Dr. Merton, you made my day! LOL!

LTCM: Long Time Crashed Money

Posted by Fake Dubya, Aug 22, 2007 4:07PM

Hey, all y'all knock it off. I've got national security eavesdroppin' duty today at the ranch and Turd Blossom told me about this Dealbreaker thing. So, I'm a watchin' all y'all on my shift. Condi's got the Onion and Tony's been making all them comments earlier about the CNBC anchors. And , hey, all y'all ought to try a Dublin Dr. Pepper cause they's damn good. Ask your Texas tradin' buddies what a Dublin Dr. Pepper is, they'll know.

Posted by MSM Hack, Aug 22, 2007 4:30PM

John, John, John... still carrying water for the Man, I see. We shouldn't raise taxes on the carry because they'll just be dodged?

We shouldn't have speed limits because they'll just be broken?

We shouldn't enforce health and safety standards because it'll just rais the cost of Chinese imports?

You were doing better with the "it will make us uncompetitive" argument, although it was weak.

Work on it.

All my love.

Posted by , Aug 22, 2007 5:14PM

PJ O'Rourke?

Posted by Sandy, Aug 23, 2007 11:22AM

The argument that the impact on government revenues would be "a wash"--even if true*--is only compelling if net revenue generation is the/a purpose of carried interest taxation (at 35%). I suspect many of those arguing in favor of the legislation would place fairness or consistency above revenues as a desirable outcome of the bill.

*I say "if true" because I suspect that many of the institutions paying non-deductible incentive fees to their fund managers (i.e. forfeiting carried interests) are either tax exempt or tax indifferent to begin with. I do not know the share of invested assets such institutions represent, but would be very interested to find out.

Posted by DropTrouGrabAnkleSecurely, Aug 23, 2007 1:42PM

"Fairness" or "consistency"?!? There is nothing "fair" or "consistent" about taxes. Taxes serve three purposes: raising revenue for a government, punishing individual behavior in some sectors of the economy, promote other behavior in some sectors of the economy (primarily by punishing that sector of the economy less than others). In this case, the proposed legislation is punishment.

One way that fairness is evaluated is by judging the level of consistency a law is applied. The more loopholes a law has, or more arbitrarily it is enforced, the less the law is fair.

Were this proposed legislation "consistent"it would be applied to all carried interest for all forms of partnership, and not just for a narrow industry. . Carried interest is used in all over in primary industries -- gas and oil partnerships, pipelines, ethanol-gas blending plants -- as well as manufacturing joint ventures, etc.

At best, this is a classic Washington shakedown. At worst; this is a cynical ploy to begin a cycle of tax rate increases on some corporations by way of defining windfall taxes.

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