Citigroup Looks To Lend Money To KKR To Buy Citigroup's Loans

pay_it_forward_big.jpgLet’s see if we have this straight. Citigroup wants to sell off some on the leverage loans it committed to before the credit crunch. Many of those loans were made to private equity owned companies for leverage buyouts, including companies that KKR bought. A fund managed by KKR is looking to buy the leveraged loans, which it believes are under-priced in the wake of the credit market turmoil. But everyone knows KKR doesn’t buy anything with cash: it borrows the money. So now, according to the Financial Times, Citigroup might lend money to KKR to buy Citigroup’s loans.

This is very possibly the best story ever. The only way it could get better is if KKR went on to buy the loans used to buy loans from Citigroup. And, of course, Citigroup lent it the money for that. And then, well, you get the point. In the end of our fantasy, Citigroup’s stock get’s hammered by investors skeptical of this snake-eating-its-tail lending scheme. And get bought out by KKR. With loans from....

Insiders report that credit market expert Charles Ponzi has been retained as an adviser to both Citigroup and KKR for the transaction.

Citigroup talks to KKR about leveraged debt [Financial Times]

Comments

Posted by Anal_yst, Oct 04, 2007 12:15PM

HAHAHAHAHAH Holy recursion Batman! I can't stop laughing, send help!

Posted by , Oct 04, 2007 12:18PM

To anyone tapped into the high yield credit market this is very old news. Been talked about since late August/Early September.

Posted by joe, Oct 04, 2007 12:28PM

For modeling purposes, make sure you have manual calc on. Excel no like circularities...

Posted by DevoutHindu, Oct 04, 2007 12:36PM

Remember, it is turtles all the way down

Posted by DBAG, Oct 04, 2007 12:41PM

Isn't this the type of mess that got the MBS/CDO industry into trouble to begin with?

Posted by junk bond, Oct 04, 2007 12:46PM

to 12:18- you are very cool.

Posted by "Bad Leg" Quezada, Oct 04, 2007 12:53PM

Our deal cop won't allow so-called "Christmas Tree" trades like the Citi/KKR/Citi being discussed.

Posted by , Oct 04, 2007 12:57PM

So Citi will lend money to KKR at a low rate and will then borrow the same money from KKR at a higher rate? And Citi will make money doing this ... how?

Posted by inIT4the$, Oct 04, 2007 12:58PM

12:18

It might be old news but it's f'in hilarious when Carney explains it!

Posted by Candy Man, Oct 04, 2007 1:18PM

Is this scheme balance sheet cleansing? Where is Skilling when you need him.

Posted by watchmen, Oct 04, 2007 1:21PM

Ain't this some shit???????????

Posted by yuks, Oct 04, 2007 1:34PM

Bad Leg, that's just another example of the liberal PC police trying to remove "Christmas" from everything!

Posted by , Oct 04, 2007 1:35PM

Its official, the Prince is off the reservation

Posted by Anonymous, Oct 04, 2007 1:44PM

I guess Citi reduces the value of the loan on its balance sheet by whatever equity KKR puts in (probably 25%) and also gets paid a cash fee by KKR. So at best, they take 30% or so of the value of the loans off the balance sheet. Doesn't seem worth it to me. If I were Prince, I'd keep the loans on the balance sheet, mark them down now, and record "earnings growth" when they get marked up in a quarter or two...

Posted by , Oct 04, 2007 1:45PM

Carney, the Department of Redundancy Department just called and they would like to have a word with you.

Posted by Prince Alaweed, Oct 04, 2007 2:22PM

Great move Chuck...keep it up.

Posted by , Oct 04, 2007 2:24PM

The question is...why? Will Citi be able to syndicate these KKR loans whereas they weren't able to syndicate the loans that KKR purchases?

Posted by Sally K., Oct 04, 2007 2:25PM

The question is...why? Will Citi be able to syndicate these KKR loans whereas they weren't able to syndicate the loans that KKR purchases?

Posted by Sally K., Oct 04, 2007 2:26PM

The question is...why? Will Citi be able to syndicate these KKR loans whereas they weren't able to syndicate the loans that KKR purchases?

Posted by Sally K., Oct 04, 2007 2:27PM

The question is...why? Will Citi be able to syndicate these KKR loans whereas they weren't able to syndicate the loans that KKR purchases?

Posted by "Bad Leg" Quezada, Oct 04, 2007 2:30PM

OK, "yuks", have to tell you that was effin funny and clever! I am jealous!

Sally K.: You have to wait up to a minute before your post is printed so don't keep hitting the "post' button. I've done it myself.

Posted by First Citiwide Change Bank, Oct 04, 2007 3:38PM

12:57

The same way we make money...volume

Posted by Gordon Gekko, Oct 08, 2007 9:08AM

Can anyone say "Shady Enron Style Dealings"? Funny how Citi helped the one time energy titan do the same bullshit.

Same dog, different fleas...

Posted by ADigitalMan, Oct 08, 2007 9:50AM

10 PRINT "MAKE.MONEY.FAST"
20 GOTO 10
RUN

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