When Losing Money Is A Crime...CEOs Will Be Paid Even More

Let’s take a bit of a breather from the news about John Thain and Merrill Lynch. (We’ll come back to that momentarily, no doubt.) In all the excitement, we almost overlooked an important column by the Wall Street Journal’s Holman Jenkins. In today’s Journal, Jenkins urges some sobriety in the face of losses at Wall Street firms, something that’s been sorely absent in recent weeks.

Indeed, at some point—after the executions of Stan O’Neal and Chuck Prince and while the mobs were turning their attention to Bear Stearns’ Jimmy Cayne—the urge to overthrow the heads of so many Wall Street firms began to take on tones that almost recalled the French Revolution. After losses at Bear Stearns were less than expected, Cayne now looks safe but it’s worth taking a step back and wondering if anger at chief executives over losses might have gone too far.

Certainly calls for jailing O’Neal or Prince—as we heard from Bill Lerach, a plaintiff’s laywer who is himself on the way to prison—went too far. Losing money is not a crime, at least not yet. But the more broadly felt outrage at the size of severance packages for O’Neal and Prince were only slightly more measured. As Holman points out,
“Misplaced moralizing over business losses also infects the discussion of exit packages. Notice how these discussions substitute the language of reward and punishment for what are really matters of contractual relations and strategic, before-the-fact incentives.”

To wit, Merrill Lynch CEO Stan O'Neal's severance is not a bonbon from a loving board, but what the board feels legally obligated to pay him, based on commitments made before the results of his tenure were known. Nor was he without proper incentives, then or now. His chief performance pay was Merrill stock, and his holdings are worth millions less than they were before the subprime losses emerged.

That won't satisfy Mr. Lerach, who thinks Mr. O'Neal should be imprisoned. But nobody in his right mind would take the job on such terms given the risks entailed in running a modern business, including the risk of civil or criminal litigation if things go sour. Indeed, what towering pay in the risk-taking professions really may be telling us is how utterly averse to risk-taking ordinary human nature is.

One fact that will surely drive the Lerach’s of the world up the wall is that the recent ousters on Wall Street are likely to result in even higher pay for management. The risks of running a bank or a brokerage are greater now than they have been at any time in the past—risks of prosecution, lawsuits, and ouster—and the top managers will demand to be compensated for those risks. Already the wires are carrying stories telling us that one of the surviving CEOs—Lloyd Blankfein of the House of Goldman—may receive as much at $75 million this year.

Losing Money Is a Crime [Wall Street Journal]

Comments

Posted by michael schumacher, Nov 14, 2007 4:36PM

losing money is not a crime.....continually lying about losing money IS a crime. Not reporting the true value of assets IS a crime.

These people should be out into jail for the simple reason that they are continually lying to the public, remember "it's all contained",

why opine about all the risks of running a bank or broker when the reality of said losses are not even close to what they say they are...how different is that from the past??? Why do we have to comb through 8ks and 10ks to even begin to construct a map of what the real story is.

Stop lying and people will stop trying to put you in jail

Posted by , Nov 14, 2007 4:39PM

michael, "forward looking statements," etc. you know what i mean. 'nuff said.

Posted by HAM'05, Nov 14, 2007 4:46PM

question - as sentiment on the street is that goldman will not write down ANYTHING - although lloyd said nothing "significant" is to come - do we think gs coming out with a 2b writedown would cost lloyd his job?

Posted by Fake Jimmy Cayne, Nov 14, 2007 4:48PM

Come on people....It isn't the CEOs who are lying!! It's their financial "models" that are causing the problems!! If we would just pay CEOs what they truly deserve...like A-Rod.....we'd get some damn fine financial results. Com on people! Are you behind me??? Let's finally start paying CEOs what they truly should get!!!

Posted by Anonymous, Nov 14, 2007 4:50PM

Liars and thieves should be offered some sort of insurance like malpractice insurance, not outrageous compensation that they will get even when they get caught. Of course, it will be very expensive insurance, but should cost less than the obscene compensation they are getting for doing nothing. Can you imagine what the next chief of Citi is going to make, even if she fails? It's been negotiated right now.

Posted by shirley templeburger, Nov 14, 2007 5:01PM

Stan the Man getting "what the Board FEELS legally obligated to pay." Hmm, maybe a Barbra Streisand/feelings kind of a contract?

Posted by anon anon anon, Nov 14, 2007 5:16PM

Unfortunately, for some, "forward looking statements" do not give public corporations an "out" for criminal activity. Let's have a public execution of a CEO and his main lawyer as a pilot reality show.

Posted by Comp consultant, Nov 14, 2007 5:28PM

CEOs, if anything, are undercompensated. Please, non-CEO people, you have no idea how stressful the CEO job can be. Besides, all compensation packages are fully vetted by the boards of directors, most of whom are CEOs themselves. As such, these board members know what other CEOs justly deserve. As a further check, most boards perform benchmarking studies to ensure that their business leaders are compensated justly relative to their peers. As a case in point, Mr. O'Neal made considerably less than the CEOs of several other leading financial institutions. How could anyone sane possibly consider his pay and termination package excessive?

Posted by Matt, Nov 14, 2007 5:58PM

The contract which outlines their severence pay was not decided upon after the fact. The shareholders share the blame for approving and sustaining a package which was unfair (as per them). Outsiders - and all crazed socialist - really have no say about what Citi shareholders decide to pay to their employee, its a private affair.

That said, O'Neal, Prince, Nardelli and the rest did not extract the contracts at gunpoint or through some forced decree of the government. MER went up today with the Thain announcement but has enyone asked what kind of a package Thain is signing?

Clearly not, because everyone thinks that Thain would be good for MER and he would be worth the money. But that is what people thought about ONeal and Nardelli and the rest when they were hired. These are people who are amongst the few hundred who rose to the top from the hundreds of thousands who passed through those large organizations. They got the package because they were considered worth it at that point.

Put simply, I am ready take the job of CEO at probably 1/100 the comp that Thain will demand and will want no exit package either. So will the MER board appoint me CEO? And is there any guarantee that Thain will most definitely outperform? A ton of the ousted CEOs also had long and successful careers before they took the top job and yet failed.

So if shareholders (and assorted socialists) were truly concerned - why not raise the concern NOW? Why not lowball Thain now and not hire him unless he refuses to return all compensation if he fails?

Its because Thain would not sign onto such a package. Neither would Fink. But the moment they fail, people all around will forget today and then demand their heads and all the money back.

Which is ridiculous. The right time to attack contracts which seem unfair is BEFORE they are signed. Not after.

This is not to defend ONeal or Prince but to point out the fact that they signed a freaking legal contract which the shareholders approved. So why cry over spilt milk?

Posted by IBDPower, Nov 14, 2007 6:07PM

Comp consultant,

"Everyone else is doing it" is not a valid excuse. Look at Enron, Worldcom, and Tyco for that matter.

Still so many years of bull markets have made the common investor stupid and lazy. Investors don't care about risk or corporate management during good times, but cry foul during hard times.

Look at the subprime mess, granted their were some crimes commited by brokers and lenders, but investors were taking loans they had no ability to pay. Again, average american is stupid and lazy, but if there are crimes committed throw those bastards in jail.

Posted by what mat, Nov 14, 2007 6:08PM

Shareholders don't approve compensation contracts, the boards do that. Those contracts usually are not so public until after they are sealed. On the other hand, you must be kidding...

Posted by Fair, Nov 14, 2007 6:35PM

And who elects the Board? If their decisions were so egregious, why are they not being pressured to resign or voted out?

Posted by Matt, Nov 14, 2007 6:50PM

Shareholders don't approve compensation contracts, the boards do that.

Dude, are you just making up arguments for the heck of it?

First, from the time of the IPO to every point of time in the future, shareholders have the free option of not buying stock in a company where they feel that the board is not fulfilling its fiduciary duty towards the shareholders. Its not like coercive taxation where there is notoption - it is a free choice!

Also, have you taken a look at who the biggest shareholders in a company like MER are? Most are institutions themselves and they ccertainly do not lack the resources to mount a dislodge directors whose decisions dont seem aligned with shareholder interests.

And if you have some irrational sheikh who is destroying others' shareholders value - sell and get the hell out of there.

So if today you feel (or learn) that Thain is being unjustly compensated, sell. Because if you believe that he will not add value, what is the point in holding onto the stock? And if you dont, then dont bitch and moan 5 years later about this package.

Posted by dense mat, Nov 14, 2007 8:27PM

So if today you feel (or learn) that Thain is being unjustly compensated, sell.

No touchy feely stuff here, we are talking real money now.

DO you have the exact contract that this dude is signing so I can decide to sell the MER stock, and also demand my pension funds to sell it too, if I don't like it?

The contract (good or bad) is fait accompli. No shareholder approval was required. No way to reverse it. Is it a good one? You have to wait until the dude gets fired to know ALL the details.

Posted by Chris G., Nov 14, 2007 10:32PM

HAM'05 hit the nail on the head. GS won't have any 'significant' writedowns. 'Significant' is quite a subjective word and can be expressed relative to several metrics. I wouldn't be surprised at anything out of this firm.

In my opinion, the "smartest traders in the room" in this case won't apply to missing the pain train...it's more likely to involve weaseling out of the consequences.

Posted by Matt, Nov 15, 2007 1:01AM

DO you have the exact contract that this dude is signing so I can decide to sell the MER stock, and also demand my pension funds to sell it too, if I don't like it?

If you are a MER shareholder, you have the right to call up, write to or email investor relations requesting the terms of the new CEO's contract. It is your right. If you then feel that the terms are inappropriate then you can a) mount a shareholder campaign against the directors/CEO and if a majority of the shareholders concur with you, then the contract will be rescinded.

In all likelihood the other shareholders wont care which means they implicitly approve of the decision their appointees (the directors) have made. That leaves you with the option of selling out as you clearly are in the minority. And for all those who dont, they then forfeit the right to bawl later on.

As far as your pension fund goes, you have entrusted them with making investment choices on your behalf. They clearly feel the contract is worth it. You dont. It is a principal-agent issue between you and the pension fund. But where does this imply that you have the right to criticise the contract between MER and the CEO after the fact?

And if being a shareholder seems too much work, then there is always the mattress to stash your cash under.

And if all this feels unjust, just think of how fair it is compared to other systems out there.

If you dont like the CEOs package and are amongst the minority shareholders opposing it, you can at least sell out.

But when 60% of the people who earn less than you elect representatives who then force you to pay out a majority of your hard earned money to those 60% who elected them at the threat of being jailed - you dont even have an out!

Posted by mpowell, Nov 15, 2007 2:25PM

But when 60% of the people who earn less than you elect representatives who then force you to pay out a majority of your hard earned money to those 60% who elected them at the threat of being jailed - you dont even have an out!

Dude, what are you talking about? You know what the tax laws are. You can always leave the country. What? All the other good places to live and work will charge you similar taxes or more?

And if all this feels unjust, just think of how fair it is compared to other systems out there.

I guess if this feels unjust, just think about how much better it is than finding a country to live in that doesn't have a progessive income tax.

Posted by Matt, Nov 15, 2007 3:24PM

You can always leave the country. What? All the other good places to live and work will charge you similar taxes or more?

I dont know which of it is - whther you were born yesterday or are just plain and simple ignorant - but that is exactly what happens all the time - people (or rather money) move out to places which are more investment friendly. And investment friendliness would be a combination of tax policy, resource base and regulatory environment.

Why do you think the socialist bulwarks of Western europe are caving in and promising to reduce taxes to get the economiy going? Why have eastern european countries and ireland/iceland seen crazy growth driven by lower taxes?

Looks like outside of the US socialist circles, people world over have come to realize that high punitive taxation leads to stagnation - and the best way to jumpstart economies is to move away from the socialist policies (ridiculous social net, high punitive taxation) etc.

They would know better. They are repenting the state their socialist policies have led them to. And they now want to use America as model for growth, and move away from the welfare state model.

Meanwhile on the other side of the pond, the capitalist boom set off by Reagan has somehow convinced the socialists that socialism is the best way to go. Quite ironic I would say.

Incidently, if you live in NYC then you probably already pay the highest taxes anywhere in the world (income/state/city/sales everything put together). And our fair and equitable friend Charlie Rangel want to take it even higher. The incentives are strong indeed.

Posted by , Nov 15, 2007 4:30PM

Matt @3:24 Stop whinin about taxes. "If you live in NYC then you probably...." You also probably make more than anywhere in the world. What counts is the quality of life, the goodies you get. Move to Oklahoma City, pay no income taxes, find a four bedroom house for $129,999. But have a crappy job, eat in crappy restaurants, look at ugly chicks. Another suppose: they found oil in the middle of Times Square and NYC and NY State abolished all taxes. It wouldnt take much time for the market to adjust: housing prices would skyrocket, your pay could decline (since tax burdens are now so much lower, no need to pay as much to attract the same talent), at the end of the day youd be in the same place. X goodies for Y amount of labor.

Posted by Matt, Nov 15, 2007 5:32PM

You also probably make more than anywhere in the world. What counts is the quality of life, the goodies you get. Move to Oklahoma City, pay no income taxes,

Oh, ok. So that is what matters.

Great. Now let me take your argument forward. So black people here enjoy many more 'goodies' than the ones who live lets say in Somalia. As in here you would get to sit in a bus (although at the back) and drink potable water (from a different tap) whereas in Somalia you neither have roads not clean water.
So given the goodies, are you implying that those people should hence give up some of their rights as they are 'enjoying the goodies' in a realtive sense?

I thought it was about inalienable rights - the rights of private property and the right to enjoy the fruits of one's own effort. And if not, what was wrong with the king taking away 50% of your produce under the threat of imprisonment? I thought those were the things people were trying to escape from.

Thanks for the different perspective. So I guess if you live in NYC as compared to Oklahoma City, given that society is 'granting' you a more charmed life, you should be ready to give up a few more of your rights. How about all phones be tapped to catch criminals and terrorists. I mean, if you dont like it - you can always move back to Oklahoma City!

Posted by , Nov 16, 2007 10:05AM

Matt: I'm making two points here:

1) I think yr one of those libertarians who thinks I ask nothing from the govt therefore I don't want to pay them anything. My point is that the local tax environment buys things that attract talent and thus contribute to yr charmed lifestyle in NY. So you therefore are in fact a big consumer of govt services. And if you dont like it go to someplace cheep and live a cheezy life.

2) The whole argument is kind of bogus anyway, cause at the end of the day what counts is the quality of life. If taxes were lowered substantially the demand for everything you spend money on would increase and prices would rise. Youd be in the same place.
Ill agree though that individuals spend money more efficiently than the govt. I read that the chairman of Bethleman steel made like $800,000 in the late 1950s, which was like $160,00 after tax. But a mansion in Greenwich was like $100,000, so he didnt do so badly. That really high marginal rate though really suppressed prosperity so there were very few people in his boat. Thats been fixed though through tax reform and much more reasonable marginal rates - now theres a line to buy mansions in Greenwich. So stop yr whining.

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