To their credit, lawmakers, regulators and the media have not yet begun to frame the story of the subprime mortgage mess in criminal terms. Forget Ben Stein because his antics have now made him forgettable. Even Gretchen Morgenson had to note in her Sunday column that the story of subprime profiteering was one of greed and not criminality. (Strangely, the entire Sunday Business section of the Times wasn't available online this morning.)
But the call for criminalization has already begun on the fringes and we wouldn't be surprised if before long we start hearing this from more mainstream publications. And if not criminalization, we expect the call for regulation to grow louder with each pasing day. It's a familiar dynamic, where market failure is addressed with regulation.
We're sometimes accused to have a knee-jerk reaction against regulation. This is unfair. Our problem seems to be a stubborn refusal to subscribe to the double standard that sees market failures and assumes available government solutions. But unless a plan for regulation addresses why the mechanisms and incentives proposed will result in effective regulation at acceptable costs, we think it best to avoid handing power over to government clerks.
Take the proposals to further regulate the ratings agencies. Sure they seem to have catastrophically failed to assess the risk in many credit products tied to mortgages. And, yes, they are rife with conflicts of interest. But we've heard precious little by way of practical solutions to these problems more detailed than abstract calls for "oversight" and "transparency." If wishing were a strategy, this would be enough. But the good intentions of those who see the market as an imperfect process is unlikely to transform the government into an effective institution.
There's a specter haunting these discussions, the specter of Sarbanes-Oxley. Our last round of financial scandal produced a clumsy and costly regulatory structure of unproven effectiveness. It would be a shame to repeat that mistake after this round of market failure.






Posted by Ludwig von Mises , Feb 04, 2008 9:49AM
The economy has been highly-regulated for over 100 years. Saying this is a "market failure" is hogwash. The Fed was complicit in every asset bubble of recent memory. Who provides the paper for these bouts of excess speculation? Who legislates price floors, price ceilings, subsidies, involuntary wealth transfers, and clumsy regulatory programs? Who renders all sorts of taxes, whether excise, sales, income, or INFLATIONARY?
Posted by , Feb 04, 2008 10:04AM
The Fed was complicit in the Chinese stock bubble? How about the Spanish housing bubble? Asian Tigers? Scandinavian Bubble? Cmon lets get over ourselves here a little it is a global economy and the Fed is only one actor among many. The same brainless simps that say the Fed is at fault are usually the ones carrying out irrational investing activities to begin with.
Posted by Affangul' , Feb 04, 2008 10:05AM
The willful blindness of the "sub-prime" mess is astonishing. It seems that no one wants to acknowledge the 800-pound Gorilla in the room, which is that the commission system by which Mortgage Brokers are paid is a completely un-checked invitation to corruption and fraud.
That the Mortgage Brokers subverted the underwriting and appraisal processes was only a matter of time. The incentives were way too skewed in favor of the Brokers.
Until someone steps up to regulate them, I won't believe in any of it.
Posted by , Feb 04, 2008 10:12AM
If you think Sarbox was bad, just wait for Basel II.
Posted by Ron Paul , Feb 04, 2008 10:12AM
No Rules. No Regulation.
Posted by Ron Paul Fanboi , Feb 04, 2008 10:15AM
No Pants! No Inhibitions!
Posted by TheUnrepentantGunner , Feb 04, 2008 10:16AM
Affangul --> egggg-zactly.
I don't know if the government is required/best to fix the mess, but the fact is for every moment of goverment stupidity (and there are ALOT of them), there are even more moments of market stupidity.
The fact that most mortgage brokers didnt keep the shady deals they made on their own books gave brokers all the incentive in the world to pass of shady dealers upon greater fools.
The fact remains that people that often didn't have more than a high school degree, and no other discernable skills/talents were often pulling in $150k
a year in that industry tells me all I need to know. I think all of us know someone who was dating someone or had their sister in the industry or whatnot and swearing life was good.
I'm still trying to figure out who the biggest fool of all is.
Posted by Ron P , Feb 04, 2008 10:17AM
Markets don't need more regulation. Abolishing markets altogether would be a far more effective way to protect people from themselves.
Let's get back to basics.
Posted by , Feb 04, 2008 10:18AM
The problem is credit. If you get rid of the interest rates altogether, these markets will not fail.
Worked for the mooslim world right?
Posted by TheUnrepentantGunner , Feb 04, 2008 10:20AM
apropos of nothing, speaking of market stupidity, Joe's link to family Airlines this morning was probably the best thing I read, and is helping me put up with the insufferable Giants fan sitting next to me, as well as my director who pretty much floated in here and has been giving me grief for a solid few hours.
Posted by , Feb 04, 2008 10:20AM
@gunner: right on. dem mo'fos even too fucken lazy to play hoops.
Posted by , Feb 04, 2008 10:22AM
Lets just hope the interest rate thing was sarcasm.
Posted by , Feb 04, 2008 10:29AM
right... but to continue to let them do the same thing is fine.
STFU
Posted by , Feb 04, 2008 10:33AM
Stop bitching and vote for Ron Paul
Posted by Rolling Thunder , Feb 04, 2008 10:38AM
@ Gunner... It looks like you and I are taking AA from the same types of sources...
So much for perfection...
on a side note... Am I the only one here scratching their head at this one?
http://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/h3/Current/
non borrowed reserves of depository institutions have gone negative... You have to love it, when the banks have negative non borrowed reserves...
Maybe this is why ML got fired by Vale for not putting up, while being the co lead...
RT
Posted by Anonymous , Feb 04, 2008 10:49AM
Morgenson is clueless. Always has been. Fraud is rampant in this mess. Some will get caught to pave the way for a big government bailout of the "banks" and others.
Posted by Ron Paul supporter , Feb 04, 2008 10:52AM
@10:33 - agreed.
Posted by Chad , Feb 04, 2008 11:01AM
How about not allowing these government agencies to back mortgages that didn't require at least 10% down as a practical solution? Oh wait, are we trying to get to a solution that keeps asset prices propped up or are we trying to create an efficient, well-functioning market?
Posted by 1-2 , Feb 04, 2008 11:02AM
Any new requirements should be placed on the borrowers (to prove they are financially fit for loans), not the originators for two reasons:
1) It will show consumers how difficult, expensive, and time consuming regulation gratia regulationa actually is. Sure this seems more vengeful rigour from corporate america than anything else, but when the costs are explicit to consumers it acts a pricing mechanism for decisions. Maybe then consumers will realize how "protecting" them is more expensive than it may be worth. Unlikely, but a thought.
2) It keeps the barriers to entry lower, thereby promoting continued competition and lower interest rates for all.
Posted by Master of None , Feb 04, 2008 11:06AM
I agree with John in that the regulatory fallout from the current hot steaming mess could potentially dwarf SarbOx, assuming mainstream media and politicians are involved at all.
During the last go-round, the mainstream media kept harping on all Grandmas with mutual funds that 'lost it all.' Did their mutual funds somehow have 10% positions in Enron, Tyco, and WorldCom? Unlikely.
But this time it's going to be the Grandpas, who wisely invested in "low-risk" fixed income funds, and had 50-100% of their savings destroyed by fixed income mutual funds that were heavily invested in CDOs and MBS. Check out ticker RMH for an example - the lawsuits are already rolling in.
Posted by s75 , Feb 04, 2008 11:09AM
@ Chad I assume you are leveling your complaint at fannie and freddie? They guaranty loans of only 80% LTV or better. If not, please do feel free to clarify.
@1-2, agreed
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