Hilarious article in yesterday’s Page Six Magazine about the supposedly newly thriving business of massage-cum-hand job. You probably didn’t see it because some of you live outside of New York (the free glossy insert, not available online, is only distributed regionally) and most of the local DealBreaker readers fancy themselves too good for the Post. That might be a fair assessment but in this particular case all the key elements (lunch breaks, bankers, money, HJs and a guy named Skip) are triggering the “too good to pass up” reflex. Plus, we could all use a good laugh at the expense of at least one married dude who laments the fact that the masseuses don’t hold him and ask him how his day was after he’s done. He’s starting to get the feeling it’s all about the money or something with these chicks!
Steven is a 28 year old “financial analyst” whose firm specializes in hedge funds (make no mistake, Steve works at Bear). Even though he went to Princeton, lives on the Upper East Side, “summers” in the Hamptons, and is described as attractive, Steven gets massages at places where they jerk you off! Is that not stunning? Were you not under the impression that these establishments were patronized exclusively by the unattractive, non-WASP state school grads of the city? I certainly was. Anyway, I’m thinking it’s going to be okay, because the way Stevie explains it, the reason his frequent user card has so many stamps of late is because of the combination of his busy schedule at Bear and the credit crunch, and in less stressful times, he wouldn’t be paying for this kind of stuff. Right now, though, he doesn’t have time for “traditional romance and courtship rituals” but what he does have a few hours for is his regularly scheduled weekly appointment, during lunch on Fridays, at his favorite Fulton Street parlor with “the cute Asian girls who giggle a lot.” Steve’s usual includes “a soapy table shower,” followed by a massage, followed by the grand finale. Obviously you’re asking yourselves, who among us can take off that much time in the middle of the day? There are two possible answers here: either he manages all that in 25 minutes (entirely possible, given what Carney’s told us about Bear bankers—“None of them have any control!”) or Steven’s a senior risk officer at BSC and has plenty of time on his hands at all hours of the day. Actually, that position fits perfectly with his attention for meaningless detail. The ads claim “Japanese models,” but Steve points out “90 percent of them are run by Koreans.” No word yet on the plan to develop a “certified Japanese massage therapist” branding.
Kevin is a 29 year old NYSE trader/trend spotter who claims “massage parlors are the new strip clubs…where you go and just get frustrated.” To prove his point, just last week Kevin and a bunch of colleagues went to a MP for a bachelor party (must have been the ATA bankruptcy that kept the broheims from Vegas). “[We were] in separate rooms, of course!!!” he makes sure to add. Completely unrelated, just my mind wandering for a second: do you think Kevin is one of those guys who always insists that sex with a guy wouldn’t be gay if it were about dominance, just, you know, to keep his options open in case getting drunk and accidentally blowing his best friend once a month starts to get old? Just asking. No need to get defensive or anything, we can drop it if you want. In fact, let’s do just that, because it’s time to talk about Skip, the most hilarious of the bunch.
Skip is a 36 year old lawyer specializing in “investments,” who’s married and has two kids. (We were relieved to discover that the magazine changed nary an identifying detail so as to protect the innocent, i.e., Skip is this guy’s real (nick)name, which sounds about right.) The Skipper’s been sailing in and out of massage parlors for two years and has become something of a regular, which means “you can get whatever you want.” Once in port, The Skipper spends money like a drunken sailor. For $100 in cash (The Skipper, who sounds really smart, would pay on a credit card but that “eats up five minutes” and that’s not how The Skipper rolls pilots) you are stripped down, showered, and massaged for twenty minutes (just like prison). While you’re “getting a handy,” The Skipper says (and, btw, I deserve a medal for being able to type that line without peeing my pants in laughter), you can touch the girl free of charge, though you have to pay another 50 for oral and 50 on top of that for sex. Okay, moment of truth time: sometimes The Skipper leaves feeling a little sad. Don’t get him wrong, The Skipper thinks massage parlors are great, but, I don’t know, lately he’s just been feeling like the masseurs don’t care about him at all. “The only thing I hate about these places,” and I don’t know about you, but here I picture a wistful, misty Skipper, perhaps even with a tear forming in his eye, “is that when you’re done the girls shuffle you out real fast, like, ‘Next!’”
Page Six notes that the most popular parlors (frequented by the article’s subjects) are Oriental Bliss, Paradise on the Table, and Happy Ending Palace. They might do good work but the bottom line is that we simply won’t allow our readers to patronize any establishment that hosts the likes of Steven, Kevin or The Skipper. So, please, take a few moments and put your reviews of alternative MPs in comments or send them to tips at dealbreaker dot com. Only you can prevent Skipper encounters. If you aren’t careful, before you know it that guy you hear in the other room moaning and crying at the same time is you. We’ll put the results in an easy to use spreadsheet later on and send it out to anyone interested. Work e-mails only, please.
it’s official, the hierarchy of the civilized now reads: babboon, new york male, rat.
Seriously? Those are real names of actual massage parlors providing sex prostitution? What is the entire NYPD on vacation or something?
You can get whatever you want alright (just ask): AIDS, herpes, syphllis, and on. Nice! I suggest Skip rent Philadelphia. Oh, and has Skippy and Kevin ever wondered where those massage hands have been – like on another guy’s schlong? Covered in sperm. Not gay at all Kevin. Like a HUUUGGE Wall Street/Manhatten circle jerk. How appropriate. Oh, lest I forget that some of them probably also offer prostrate milkings. Kevin, ask your friends about that. Hands one minute up some guys anus, another minute massaging your body. You all are truly lucky and deserve such ‘treatment’.
@1:31 I’m confused. Is that ascending or decending order?
@girl: c’mon now, this is not new “news”. while I can’t say I’ve actually been to one of these establishments (I’m sure thadeus can weigh in), I do know several guys that work on 57th street who have been known to get a little rub and tug on 56th street during lunch. I guess when work is a little too stressful or business is a tad slow, they need a little “pick me up”. different “strokes” for different folks, but let’s not throw the baby out with the bath water – there are plenty of straight and narrow new york males out there.
@1:40 How can you get AIDS, herpes, syphillis from a happy ending massage, which is essentially a JO session? As I recall from Philadelphia, Tom Hanks went to a gay bathhouse. The similarites between that and whats going on here end with the shower part. You must be one of those people that, when exiting the bathroom, holds the door open with a paper towel. You ever on the subway? Bet you buy Purel in the gallon size.
@ 1:41, descending…though i hear rats are pretty astute.
@ Cluzo, Prostitution is vile and for the Post to tacitly accept this practice by printing a light-hearted article about it (and for all of us to look the other way while these guys cheat on their wives and girlfriends) is equally unacceptable
@cluzo, where on 56th ?
@1:45 well, you gotta pick your battles you know. grabbing the bathroom handle with my bare hand never enabled me to jizz in some korean chick’s mouth so, you know, there is some kind of risk/reward tradeoff going on here i guess.
@1:45 If you think these places likely only offer hand jobs, I’ve got a surprise for you. Did you just get off a farm in the Midwest? I already mentioned prostrate milkings if you have bothered to read my post. Reading comprehension is not your strong suit. The Philadelphia reference was to the probability that if (and likely when) the attorney gets ‘something’ by going beyond a handjob (which most guys probably do). Most guys go to massage parlors for a massage? And most guys read Playboy for the articles…
@girl–maybe you should get some massage oil and spend more time relieving your boyfriends stress unless you want to see him spending money on korean women, just a thought
girl: the prostitution comment. I guess it comes down to where you draw the line. Genital massage is a long way from penetration (of any kind). How about a pedicure? An article in NY Mag a few months ago talked about the mani/pedi/massage industry, essentially run by asian women. Unpleasant work, low pay. Touching feet isn’t the same as JO. But is it truly that different?
girl: the prostitution comment. I guess it comes down to where you draw the line. Genital massage is a long way from penetration (of any kind). How about a pedicure? An article in NY Mag a few months ago talked about the mani/pedi/massage industry, essentially run by asian women. Unpleasant work, low pay. Touching feet isn’t the same as JO. But is it truly that different?
How can you tell when your best friend is gay?? Because his dick tastes like shit
Gross. I’m pretty sure I would rather rub a random guy’s penis than his feet. Feet are so gross, and way more likely to carry some sort of weird fungus!
I always feel bad for the girls who do my pedi, and my feet are pretty cute as far as feet go.
If these prices are true, then the Skipper is a relative value kingpin, and Spitzer looks even more ridiculous. With the amount Spitzer was dropping, he could have had an entire village of midgets at the Happy Ending joint.
@2:01 you obviously missed this comment from earlier today:
I bet muffie type chicks when they turn 30 let guys finish in their butts so someone, anyone, marries them.
@1:51 – I’m not sure, I think it’s somewhere near 6th ave where all the restaurants are, as far as I’m concerned that whole block is shady.
@girl – clearly taking a stance on this one. cheating/prostitution are very large charges. I need to know more about how the transaction goes “down” before I could agree/disagree with you. someone enlighten me.
2:02 The frat boys were all over NY in flip flops this weekend. Seeing their hot feet made me crazy.
Sounds like somebody’s jealous…
is it by the Benihana? that would make sense. they already have the tables for it.
i think handies are in a completely different league then getting a pro for the whole shibang.
Unfortunately, i cant get off unless i punch her in the face at the same time.
-chad
Oh! So now you tell me that’s what the “happy ending” is!!!!
-The Forehead Slapper
thanks for that insight, nad
what’s a prostate milking?
@2.19–thats extra, please choose 1 from column A, 2 from column B
I was at the Lotus Blossom the other day and the “therapist” said, “hey Number One, your johnson is purple! When having sex, you should use some kind of jelly you know….”
I said I did use a jelly. Smucker’s Grape.
Oh yeah? Well, my therapist complained that my dick had become orange colored and since she hadn’t seen me in a while she asked if I had been injured or something. I told her no, I had been laid off and couldn’t see her as often. She asked what I had been doing for relief and I said, “Oh, the usual…get a big bag of Cheetos and rent some porn…..”
buh dum CHING!
@ 1:58 – Plenty of people do unpleasant work for low pay (bikini waxers come to mind) but the distinction here is that the masseuse is performing a distinctly sexual and degrading act, and an illegal and immoral one at that.
@2:22 I’m gonna say a prostate massage. I.E. her finger lubbed up and up your hole. Margaret Cho does a routine: girls, if you’re blowing your boyfriend and you want him to get going quickly, stick a finger up there and, guaranteed, he’ll be done extra fast. She then demonstrates how you drive home with your index finger extended, so as not to dirty the steering wheel. GAnalYst
It was the degrading that got me kicked out of de school.
Not lubbed. Lubed. Uh…so I’ve been told, that is.
This is all good and well, but how much for the Arabian Hot Pocket?
-Nom me
Actually, plenty of guys do go to massage parlors for massages. Not all MPs – even less expensive Asian ones – are all about this stuff. Most actually give a better legit massage than you’ll get at a high-end hotel, in my opinion.
Since when is a handjob considered immoral?
And do you really consider it degrading when you give one? Is it less degrading if you receive dinner first?
Margaret cho is funny
You NYC’ers are behind the curve. Check out terb.ca (NSFW)
sexual / degrading / illegal / immoral Agree with you on the illegal. The other three, its a matter of degrees. My Wall Street job is often degrading. Sometimes immoral. Theres a sexual element to the flirting done by a hot bartender. It goes on and on.
@girl–I would think giving handjobs is less degrading than, say, ironing shirts or sewing your skirt back together after your drunk frat boyfriend rips it off you so he can fuck you silly. More likely a Korean chick can meet their future husbands this way than ironing too. Just a thought
The Arabian Hot Pocket!!!! I thought I was the only mendicant of that art!
@GAnalYst: I saw that on the movie “road trip”;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkkjkwXAyl0&feature=related
so much one can learn from the movies…
@arabian hot pocket
my god! is there a youtube of that?
how exactly does this differ from space docking?
“Plenty of people do unpleasant work for low pay (bikini waxers come to mind)…..”
girl@2:26…..you forgot working up a costless collar on a 2010 through 2015 PEPL/ERCOT spark spread.
Margaret Cho is HOT !?!?!?!?
yikes , bro , get a life
I bet some of them get a kick out of. I know the lady who lasers my “area” certainly seems to be taking some sort of smug satisfaction about painfully inflicting my permanent brazilian.
getting a HJ is like getting a shoe shine or getting a scalp massage. It’s part of the perks of being a guy. It has nothing to do with fidelity. And if you don’t believe me, ask any other guy!
cluz: Thanks for sharing. There’s hope for you I see.
BTW: on the subject of degrading. A few years ago some friends came in from out of town and wanted to go to a hot NY gay club. So the BF and I took them. I don’t dance, he does. So they went off and I stayed at the bar watching a really clean cut hunky guy in jockstrap, and feeding him dollars. After about $5 he said thanks and smiled, after $10 he bent over, shook my hand firmly and introduced himself. I said, hey I have a fantasy, can you work with me on this? I said, I’m imagining you go to Columbia business school and are going to be on Wall Street next year. He laughed and said, yr close, I’m in dental school. I can make a ton of money doing this and it doesn’t interrupt my study or clinical time. That was better than the B school fantasy, so he got another $20. Who was degraded more there? The straight dental student, prying dollars out of the gay wall st guy? Or the WS guy? I’d say neither. We both had a good time from it. He’s probably drilling teeth right now. Free markets rule. GAnalYst
who said margaret cho is hot? I see a margaret cho is funny …
@2:48 awesome, that would be my new green bar if there was enough space
GAnalYst, don’t take this the wrong way, you seem more like a trader than an analyst. No offense dude.
I believe we have a breakthrough here; guys and girls view sex differently. girls attach emotion and love to getting off. guys attach very little (if anything) to getting off. thus, there will always be a disconnect. if girls could get over this fact and just enjoy it, perhaps the big “o” would come a little easier…
-just another guy
are you guys for real?!? If you are going to an establishment and paying to get an HJ you are soliciting prostitution! And they are being degraded because they are providing sex for payment and not for pleasure. And yes, it is different if you get dinner first, and exchange conversation, and are enjoying yourselves with someone. You would realize that if you took out a normal girl once in a while and not some dial-a-ho. Jesus H. Christ.
I’m actually on a PM team at an asset management firm. GAnalYst
All men either “lope their mule” from time to time or contract someone to “whip their skeeter” for them. Psycho-therapists don’t even bat an eye at such revelations unless the client is doing it in such a way that it affects his work or home life.
-Sigmoid Freud
you should see these places on a Thursday night. It’s more crowded than the barney’s warehouse sale. It looks like a yankees bullpen in the waiting room.
humph. i guess my Tray-dar is a bit off.
@girl: if I may quote myself a-la random banker some weeks back – please do not throw out the baby with the bath water. calling on our lord and savior will not change any attitudes on this board.
bessy: you really know how to incite a firestorm. my hero…
@2:58 No prob. Its the handle that misled you. As an alternative, I was going to do some catchy rhyming with CFA, but decided against it. GAnalYst
True fact: Two out of three of those MP names are fake, and the third (I believe) is closed (a.k.a. reopened under a different name five minutes later).
The “H” in Jesus H Christ is for “Handjob”
@girl–can I take you to a sub-$200 dinner and get a massage and hj from you? at an hourly rate, its less than a korean massage..
Are we talking about Rose’s Spa now ?
fulton … Spa 88???
@ 3:09- go fuck yourself, it’s the cheapest option
2:47,
You can’t be serious? Laser brazillian?
before getting married, I used to get massage with hj! Mostly students from NYU , British students and Russians. Being regular had certain advantages but no sex. Much better payoff than strip club and relaxing too. Never tried Asians , mostly blondes
@2:53–
what’s the matter with being a trader?
-mrp
@2:53 – that’s a compliment in my book.
P.S. GAnalYst – I bet you’ll see lotsa bear boys at the clubs now, and most of them look like Tanner so you must be feeling giddy.
Traders vs Analyst. And …. FIGHT!
William Jefferson Clinton already educated us about the fact oral isn’t sex so how could a hand job considered sex??? Apparently there is no higher authority in the land then the President so we should all just take it as fact that nothing short of penetration in the #1 hole is sex.
Everyone: Outside of the “dingle dens”, it all depends on “the guy”…..if you are “him” you’ll get wildly wanked like a deckhand hauling in a crab-pot line on Discovery Channel’s “Deadliest Catch”. Don’t even think about it if you’re not.
west garden…the directions are easy.
Ugh, as if it isn’t bad enough that they have handjobs, but they also force their prostitutes to give FOOT MASSAGE! I can’t believe anyone would want a handjob knowing that hand may have just touched some guy’s nasty foot!
BSD-
I was out and about this weekend, I didn’t see many folks of the ‘Tanner’ variety.
Maybe i’m lookin in the wrong place.. Chelsea LOL.
lively conversation today…
regards,
-mrp
I was at one of those Korean parlors on Telephone Road in Houston and things weren’t “happening” despite all the small talk I was making so I turned it up a notch and told “Miko”, “Hey darlin, you know I’ve got a twitchin’ wang..” and she said to me, “Really, all Japanese cars look the same to me….”
i dont get it
BSD @3:16 In gay speak, “bear” refers to a hairy, beefy, flannel shirted, football player kind of guy. At best a Tanner-type, but not plucked and shaved. Guys into that sort of thing hang at The Dugout, on far west Christopher Street. Maybe Pink can weigh in on where the Bear Stearns boys are. I’ve got a BF, dont go out too much cause gay bars are generally for hooking up. GAnalYst
So once the gays pair off they stop going out? That seems wrong.
What ever happened to the good old days when you guys were having secret orgies on the west side piers?
@3:36 – I have a gay friend, he seems to go out a lot, but not with his “partner”. he calls it “looking for strays”. he also told me about a site they go to for hook-ups. it’s better than match.com, he can literally have some dude at his door in 1/2 hour and doesn’t have to worry about taking him out to dinner. why can’t match be that easy? I think we need a new model for straight guys.
By not going out, I meant we dont go out to pick up bars. We have a great social life.
Gay boys were having secret orgies when they were marginalized. Now that we’re in the same mainstream as the other lawyers, hedgies, asset managers, bankers and traders about town, we don’t have to have anonomous sex in the dark. Oh, and AIDS had somthing to do with scarring the new generation into curbing a lot of destructive behavior. GAnalYst
Secret orgies still sounds like more fun. Hear you about the AIDs though. Also, I guess group play isn’t for everyone.
@3:44 If its any consolation, I’m not sure its really as easy as yr friend makes it out to be. From what I hear, there are a lot of lies told about age, height, weight, plus old pictures said to be current and a lot of no show dates. GAnalYst
@GAnalYst: small consolation, the girls on match have doctored pictures and lie too. in fact, I dated a girl who I met at a bar (who was also on match). I asked to see her profile and it clearly stated “no way” to smoking. guess what she was doing when we met? yep, smoking (I got her to quit). at least with your method, you don’t have to have to waste a whole lot of time and there are no strings attached. on match, you are expected to buy at least one drink and have to suffer through at least one drink.
not to mention the conversation. my god, the conversation!
that’s why i prefer j-date. the only conversation necessary is a bank statement.
are there any black dudes on j date? I heard that I could do well, but I think that may be taking it a little too far…
@ 2:48 – “It has nothing to do with fidelity. And if you don’t believe me, ask any other guy!”
How about your wife’s lawyer?
Girl:
Hold fast to your standards. Don’t let the cretins bring you down.
AB
cluzo it depends what your standards are like. plenty of jew girls on there will happily fling with a brother.
yeah girl. don’t let anyone tell you that you have to get reverse double-eyelid surgery and make a living givin out rub jobs on pike street
cluzo: What you’re really saying is that among gays the mating game is played like guys play it. Not that there aren’t other problems, but the approach is generally more direct and practical than in a guy/girl situation. I almost hate to admit it, but sometimes the fact that sex is usually REALLY fast and easy can discourage things from moving in a serious direction. GAnalYst
Most famous is West Garden. Really popular amongst traders and brokers. It was outed by LSO recently.
@ girl:
While I am a sometimes a proponent of intervention in the free markets by the long arm of the government. In the matter at, ahem, hand, there shall be no dispensation for government interference. Let the free markets provide an environment in which every bid is met with an offer. Lest, you protest too much might I suggest you rewatch your (plausible) favorite movie, Pretty Woman. I rest my case.
why wouldn’t you just get your needs taken care of by your wife?
@ 4:27 cluzo clearly has no problem with chicks who lie — so what “standards” could he have?
Can gays enjoy a nice massage too? Lots of these little asian girls are hard to distinguish from their male counterparts. It would seem unfair if the happy 10% of our population couldn’t enjoy a happy ending.
4:51: What planet do you live on?
@4:51 – you sound suspiciously like an ex-gf. as I was told by one ex, some lies are less of a “lie” than others (it’s not all black and white). but who am I to judge, I was willing to forgive (I believe the term is compassionate). so I viewed her “casual” cigarette as slip during a long night of drinking (for the record, she did not say she didn’t smoke to me, just to the suckas on match). should I also view her blonde hair as a lie? almost every blonde I’ve dated was a fake. I do have standards – standards of just and fair.
4:58 the planet where i don’t have to pay for sex because i get enough to satisfy me at home
5:03 – beating it is a good alternative to MPs but not quite the same.
@4:57 No denying that there are such places for gay guys. The thing is, they tend to be frequented by guys who are very old and/or very ugly. Decent looking gay guys just don’t have to pay for sex. Simple as that. Believe me, it really is different when two guys are involved. Just imagine playing the sexual game with someone else that’s as much of a horn dog as you are, that can divorce the sex from the romance. You guys just let me know if you want to try it out. I’ll point you in the right direction. GAnalYst
4:58: This one. Just curious why you would date somebody who was a liar from the get-go…especially when you can get all the lovin’ you need from the kind Asian ladies who don’t require the conversation/dinners/drinks.
@ 4:29 hahah i wasn’t aware that was an option!
Thanks AB.
The rest of you have been demoted below Rat. Rats don’t have to pay for it, unless they do so with discarded metrocards.
@5:08: first, didn’t call anyone a liar (esp from the “get-go”, who says that?). second, I don’t have an asian fetish. third, maybe it’s my feminine side, maybe I thought I could “change” her…in fact, I’d take her back today (with faults and all) because she has a heart of gold and she loves (loved?) me more than her favorite teddy bear.
Ok, since this thread was set-up to suggest alternative MPs….
Can anyone reading this think of another “skipper” who has scuttled their ship and is desperate for cash? I’m just saying (wo)men of the sea (ex: pirates, etc.) do get lonely, (s)he may be pretty good at this sort of thing. 10% discount if you let (s)he tell you to surrender the booty before finishing….
cluzo: not an ex (or a future) unless you’re into trying something really new! Just don’t get the hetero dating issuses sometimes.
GAnalYst: totally agree with staying out of that particular game. Sounds better and easier than it is, always.
wait.. mrp.. you’re gay? here i was thinking you were my fixed income soulmate
@5:26 – not to cast dispersions on the alternative lifestyle, but even with the “issues” in hetero land, it can be rewarding. not sure I could ever get over the whole gay sex thing.
@5:41 – mrp said he was gay a long time ago, where have you been? but I’m sure you two could still be soulmates; just not the kind you were planning.
“Why wouldn’t you get your needs taken care of by your wife?”
Ask the former governor of New York. “Needs” ….hahahahahaha
No kidding, that sounds like a line out of “The Big Lebowski”.
And that concludes today’s therapy session. Tommorrow we will go deeper as to why the need for gratification as substitute for deeper unsatisfactions. Girl will serve as devil’s advocate again. Marvelous session. Now go home to the kids and tell them you love them.
F
@5:47 Cluz: Haven’t you noticed that gay is just another element of life. Gay guys are everywhere, lesbians too. Some of them are outrageous, others lead the most traditional lives imaginable: children, dogs, aluminum siding, minivans, vacations at Disney. What is this whole gay sex thing you think you need to get over? Either you have the desire or dont, or maybe somewhere in between. But its not something that needs a lot of thought and analysis. GAnalYst
@ 5:41-
LOL…Yea..
I wouldn’t be too surprised though. At a (recently acquired) Chicago exchange, the building and floor was filled with us. The highest concentration of them in the South Loop outside of Lakeview.
I don’t flaunt it (really) in public. I live my life pretty damn well anyhow I choose, but I still respect the choices of others. Hell, i’ll even go shopping with the ladies while your man is out at the ‘massage parlor’… As someone said, you have to be thankful for free markets :)
Anyhow… time for me to head home… Ya’ll take care and come back soon, ya’ hear?
-mrp
@GAnalYst: I’m well aware of the home team and their lifestyle. there are guys at my golf club who openly discuss it and I’m friends with a few guys who finally came out after school (think east coast, not quite ivy, but very close). perfectly normal people, why do you think I know so much about your little tricks? c’mon now, I don’t believe everything I see on tv (despite some of my views, I’m pretty liberal). seriously, I’ve never met anyone like the guy from “birdcage”. in fact, I stayed with a guy down south this past weekend – you would think he coached little league soccer (his partner has the 3 dogs, but no minivan).
i’m really glad everyone got everything off there chests today. three cheers for bess for setting up the right opportunity for everyone. i can still hear the the people shouting “I’m a gay american”
How did I miss this fantastic ‘conversation’ all day. Cruel World!!!!
@10:02 Wait … what?? There’s lesbians on this website????
@7:49 – what % of women in finance aren’t? wake up man.
Check out this FUNNY CARTOON on you tube where the The Federal Reserve and JP Gobble Bear Stearns
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9_EMDfnTfw
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