Credit Default Swaps: The Next Subprime?

Today's must-read story is Bloomberg's David Evans on counterparty risk in the credit default swap market. The credit default swap market is the focal point for a lot of fear these days. It's lightly regulated, non-transparent and there's thought to be lots of trading on inside information in the market. Rising defaults, particularly in riskier so-called "high yield" debt (also known as "junk bonds"), now has many people worried that credit default swap market could be worse than subprime. Yves Smith describes it as "a disaster in the making."

The credit-default-swap market has been untested until now because there's been a steady decline in global default rates in high-yield debt since 2002. The default rate in January 2002, when the swap market was valued at $1.5 trillion, was 10.7 percent, according to Moody's Investors Service.

Since then, defaults globally have dropped to 1.5 percent, as of March. The rating companies say the tide is turning on defaults.

Fitch Ratings reported in July 2007 that 40 percent of CDS protection sold worldwide is on companies or securities that are rated below investment grade, up from 8 percent in 2002.

Many large institutional investors and banks have bought credit default swaps from counter-parties, often hedge funds, without adequate knowledge of financial position of the seller. Many sellers might be unable to pay, particularly if defaults cascade, with many coming at once. When defaults ramp up and those investors try to collect on the insurance policies they bought, they are likely to discover that many investors cannot afford to pay.

Andrea Cicione, a London-based senior credit strategist at BNP Paribas SA, estimates that hedge funds that will be unable to pay banks for credit default swaps tied to at least $35 billion in defaults. That's his conservative estimate. He also says the uncollectables could go as high as $150 billion.

That's pretty scary, we'll agree. Of course, there has been a lot of fear and loathing about credit default swaps for quite some time. Not too long ago the complaint was that the lack of transparency was creating opportunities for insider trading. Evans' story is admirable because it ties the risks of the CDS with the media's favorite financial villain, hedge funds. With all the losses coming from Wall Street titans like Bear and Citi, it's been hard to blame the hedge funds for creating "systemic risk." But it looks like that trade is back on.

Also, we can't talk about credit default swaps without remembering our favorite version of the old "you have two cows" joke.


Hedge Funds in Swaps Face Peril With Rising Junk Bond Defaults
[Bloomberg]

Comments

Posted by guest, May 20, 2008 4:44PM

Well then I think the only logical thing to do is to buy a second overlay of CDS on your counterparty to your first CDS....

Posted by guest, May 20, 2008 4:48PM

Bess,

This Credit Default Swap crisis is like yesterday's news. There was a lot of discussion in the media about this very subject 6 months ago.

Check out this BOLI crap instead. No wonder those dumbass banks are losing their shirts.

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/2-banks-hit-citi-hedge-fund/story.aspx?guid=%7B794C31BA%2DA259%2D470F%2D9EB6%2D35E98FEA8D1D%7D&tool=1&dist=bigcharts&symb=C&sid=117685

Posted by guest, May 20, 2008 4:49PM

That ConsumerSavingCenter ad is going to give someone a seizure.

Posted by guest, May 20, 2008 4:50PM

Credit Default Swaps: The Next Subprime?
Posted by John Carney, May 20, 2008, 4:29pm

Posted by guest, May 20, 2008 4:59PM

@4:50pm,

Huh?

Posted by guest, May 20, 2008 4:59PM

@4:48, see @4:50,

With the em-PHA-sis on who wrote the piece.

Posted by guest, May 20, 2008 5:06PM

@4:59pm,

Pardon me. Delete "Bess", insert "John Carney". Thank you.

The @4:48PM Poster

Posted by John Carney, May 20, 2008 5:30PM

Just because the dog aint that young anymore doesn't mean it won't bite you. The CDS market is about to get a lot more attention.

Posted by guest, May 20, 2008 5:40PM

John Carney,

The@4:48pm poster here.

After reading your thoughtful article again, I realize that you included many points that were never mentioned in the past.

I am embarrassed because in my haste to write a posting, I ignored the fine, informative work that you had already done.

Please accept my sincere apology.

Posted by guest, May 20, 2008 7:14PM

Cess pool about ready to get bigger. Defensive positions all. There will be bargins galore in the next 12-18 months. Not to mention playing the indexes up and down! Show me the $$$$!

The Other Guy From Delaware

Posted by guest, May 20, 2008 7:44PM

TOGFD = TGFD.

Posted by guest, May 20, 2008 7:57PM

This is stupid. The banks margin call their hedge fund counterparties everyday. Granted the news of a default can cause a big move in one day, but unless numerous companies declare bankruptcy on the same day, not really such a big deal.

Posted by guest, May 20, 2008 10:17PM

@7:57PM

Of course! It's not like entire sectors have gone down in a correlated manner recently.

Posted by guest, May 20, 2008 10:19PM

Besides, what harm is there in multiple margin calls? It's not like hedge funds don't sit on piles of cash ready to meet them?
They'd never liquidate assets in a rush to meet those calls would they?

Posted by John Carney, May 21, 2008 8:23AM

Guest 7:57, You are half-right. A single, isolated default or a series of defaults within normal historical ranges are unlikely to cause problems. But recently we have seen many markets "misbehaving" and correlated market collapses. What is feared is exactly what you are getting at in your clause that begings "but unless."

Posted by guest, May 21, 2008 9:17AM

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

You're selling but I'm not buying, Carney.

Netting will make all this ok.

Posted by guest, May 21, 2008 9:53AM

@ 9:17:

I was trading energy in 2001. In September I had 50+ counterparties, by December I had less than 5 and those were basically Gov't owned utilities and one or two banks.

I think what Carney is saying is that while netting agreements and daily margins work very well when one or maybe two funds get into trouble they will do nothing to prevent or protect if there is a mass run to the exit.

Posted by guest, May 21, 2008 11:22AM

AMBAC, MBIA, & SCI, the 3 biggest chumps so far in the CDS debacle, have already lost 96%, 87% & 97% respectively in their mkt values over the past year. There are probably others too, but any toxic bonds insured by those three already have little value, and they insured a lot.

I have no love for hedge funds, but if the CDS problem is going to amplify and pull them down too, my bet is with the Fed. What's another $35B to them? The Fed will do what is necessary to protect the institutional investors.

Lastly, while not wanting to douse the enthusiasm of a fellow Delawarian, I must ask The Other Guy from Delaware @7:14PM if he was one of the smart guys who shorted Bear at 50, bought it at 2, and then sold out at 10?

I wasn't either...But if I had a time machine, I would be.

The Guy from Delaware


Posted by guest, May 21, 2008 11:26AM

Ammendment to my @11:22AM post...

SCI should read SCA.

The Guy from Delaware

Posted by guest, May 21, 2008 6:41PM

TGFD@11:22 - No, brother. Missed that train. I was asleep at the wheel as it were.

The Other Guy From Delaware

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