Hedge Fund Coin Flipping

It's no surprise that the quants are a strange bunch. Last year, when their strategies cascaded to recorded losses, they blamed the markets for misbehavior. Now it seems a hedge fund looking for someone with quant skills has placed a particularly strange ad on Craigslist.


It asks applicants to do the following:

1) Prepare a cover letter. 2) Flip a coin 50 times. Record the results on your resume as a sequence of heads (H) or tails (T) symbols. 3) Email your cover letter and resume to us.

Some folks have wondered if the fund is simply testing for luckiness. But our man Joe Weisenthal, who has been guest blogging for Paul Kedrosky at Infectious Greed, points out that this could be an application of Benford's Law which tests for honesty. Most people cannot correctly estimate a realistic pattern of coin flips, which means they can't fake the data convincingly.

One of our favorite quants, who asked to remain anonymous because "girls don't like nerds who don't work for Google," brings up another possibility: that it's a test of quant ability based on ability to fake the odds convincingly.

"The ideal quant candidate should be able to apply Benford's Law to fake the coin flip results," he says. "I'll bet in the interview you lose points for actually having flipped the coin rather than working out the problem."

He also poses an alternative theory. "It's also possible that they just want to see if you can figure out why they asked you to do this. Maybe the first question you'll get asked in the interview is why you think they wanted you to flip a coin fifty times," he says.

Comments

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Posted by guest, Jul 23, 2008 1:35PM

***News Flash***

Employment Opportunities in Delaware

I heard on the radio this morning that Blackrock announced a commitment to the State of Delaware to expand their presence here by adding 300 new financial sector jobs. The positions will be in Asset Management (for the clowns) and in Data Processing (for the goons).

It didn't say anymore about the positions, but if you're without a job, you might consider checking with Blackrock.

Blackrock is housed in the Bellevue Corp Center, a rather small center, located right in the middle of a State Park in northern Delaware, right off I-95. Very nice place; I've been there.

If any of you unemployed wizards are looking for a change, you might give Blackrock a try. If you're successful, let me know; I'll tell you the best places to live. You probably won't make as much money as you do/did now/recently, but the cost of living is lower, and your booze & pill-fed ulcers won't be so bad.

The Guy from Delaware

p.s. I posted this on the Paulson thread too.

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Posted by guest, Jul 23, 2008 1:38PM

Girls don't like quants who work for Google? That's a false rumor.

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Posted by guest, Jul 23, 2008 1:41PM

We'll let you know if we're ever that desperate, TGFD.

Or we'll shoot ourselves first.

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Posted by Joseph di Jersey City, Jul 23, 2008 1:42PM

Most likely it's just someone on Craigslist dicking around. It takes no programming skills to create a good enough random-like sequence 50 items long. E.g. in Excel:

=IF(RAND()>0.5, "H","T"), then drag into 50 cells.

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Posted by guest, Jul 23, 2008 1:49PM

just heard ALL of wachovia's LEGAL staff was laid off yesterday. can anyone confirm?

clueless

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Posted by BSD, Jul 23, 2008 1:54PM

Agree with 4, if you can't figure this out in 2 seconds you're not even a good IB intern, much less a quant. They were likely screening to make sure you aren't just randomly sending your resume in to twenty places without reading the job description (a great gauge of desperation).

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Posted by lift all the offers, Jul 23, 2008 1:55PM

If I were applying, I'd be reading up on Bernoulli trials and practice some of the calculations you'd expect from the experimental data.

Specifically:
expected # of runs => R is 25 * (.5) ^ R
longest expected run is log2 (25)

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Posted by guest, Jul 23, 2008 1:56PM

SmartAss#3 @1:41pm...

Your arrogance is actually quite amusing. I'm not the one on DB crying the fucking blues on a "Layoff Watch" thread every few days.

You, dipshit, might not be in need of a job, but some other DB readers could be.

Your "We'll" should be in the singular 1st person. Speak for yourself, genius.

The Guy from Delaware

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Posted by guest, Jul 23, 2008 2:03PM

I agree with TGFD - the only generous gesture I've seen on this board. It speaks volumes about the characters of the people on this board.

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Posted by guest, Jul 23, 2008 2:03PM

#7 gets it. The applicant with the highest entropy wins!

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Posted by guest, Jul 23, 2008 2:05PM

TGFD aka Humbert Humbert,

That would be an example of Pluralis Majestatis, and since you're a dumbass, I'll translate. That's the "royal we" for you.

I'm surprised you didn't expect that from someone as arrogant as ourself.

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Posted by guest, Jul 23, 2008 2:13PM

I agree with #4 and #7 but think there is a little more than just the software prowness this fund is looking for in their candidate.

I used to go to a bar that had a popular coin-flip night where everyone paid a $5 cover charge at the door and then played heads-or-tails with the bartendar. If you called it right, free beer. If not, you had to pay usual price.

My understanding is that each coin flip is in no way dependent on the other. Just because you flipped 3 heads in a row doesn't mean the fourth flip HAS to be a tail.

So if the software application doesn't have a near 50/50% allocation of heads versus tails, then it's useless.

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Posted by guest, Jul 23, 2008 2:18PM

"So if the software application doesn't have a near 50/50% allocation of heads versus tails, then it's useless."

Fail. For precisely the reason you point out in your peceding paragraph, a sequence of 50 flips need have nowhere near a 50/50 distribution.

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Posted by guest, Jul 23, 2008 2:18PM

Professor Richard Thaler has you do this in his behavioural finance class at the U of C. The point of the experiment was to show that strings of the same result occur much more often than you might expect. For example, if someone would take the time to flp the coin 50 times, that person would find results of H's (or T's) occurring 6 times in a row (or greater) much more than one might expect prior to starting the trial. If you would apply that lesson to say, the stock market of present day. One might conclude that these financial stocks could go up a lot more than what a traditional bear market rally would suggest.

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Posted by guest, Jul 23, 2008 2:23PM

13. Wrong.

The smaller a sample size, the wider results you're going to get. And vice versa.

Is 50 enough tries? Run 50 trials of 50 flips and see what the % distribution is.

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Posted by guest, Jul 23, 2008 2:29PM

Hi 14, 13 here. I think you meant 12. Pretty sure you repeated what I said - ie, 50 flips probably wouldn't give 50/50 results. Apologies if my post was unclear.

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Posted by guest, Jul 23, 2008 2:29PM

Actually I once flipped 10 heads in a row intentionally. You can increase your odds if you practise catching the coin in mid air. I don't know where people get the idea that every coin flip is a 50/50 thing.

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Posted by guest, Jul 23, 2008 2:30PM

17, I believe the technical term there is "cheating"

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Posted by guest, Jul 23, 2008 2:31PM

13 (& 16) here again. This post numbering thing is behaving very strangely. Naturally my comment to 14 should actually have been to 15. Confusingly.

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Posted by guest, Jul 23, 2008 2:39PM

the market does not follow a normal or even a loganormal distribution so the answer we are looking for is "stop trading tulips at look at the earnings"

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Posted by guest, Jul 23, 2008 2:39PM

To #4:

=IF(RAND()>0.5, "H","T"), then drag into 50 cells.

I believe RAND is:
- a number greater than or equal to 0
and
- a number less than 1

So I think you need >= as opposed to > in your formula. Or you could just type =IF(RAND()>RAND(),"H","T"). But even that doesn't account for the odd case where RAND()=RAND()...

Whoever wrote this ad was probably trying to bring Dark Knight into this somehow.

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Posted by guest, Jul 23, 2008 2:41PM

SmartAss#11 @2:05pm...

Do you know any actual "Royals" personally? I do. Your use of the "Royal We" is amazingly idiotic.

The Guy from Delaware

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Posted by guest, Jul 23, 2008 2:42PM

The H/T ratio for 50 flips cannot be too wide (e.g., 37 H and 13 T).

Simple arithmetic of probabilities:

P(5 heads in a row) = .5^5 = 0.03125
P(4 heads in a row) = .5^4 = 0.0625
P(3 heads in a row) = .5^3 = 0.125
P(2 heard in a row) = .5^2 = 0.25

As you can see, the likelihood of getting heads in a row decreases.

A coin that is not caught in mid-air, too heave on one side, etc. will always give a 50-50 probability of being H or T.

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Posted by guest, Jul 23, 2008 2:48PM

It can be that wide (37/13), but the probability of this happening is very low. DUCY?

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Posted by lift all the offers, Jul 23, 2008 3:01PM

The Law of Large Numbers applies here. The ratio of heads / total flips approaches 0.5 (fair coin) as the number of flips increases. But the difference between the number of heads and tails increases. Consider 20 flips with 11 heads and 9 tails for a ratio of 0.55. Now consider 20000 flips with 10010 heads and 9990 tails for a ratio of 0.5005. The difference increases proportionally with the square root of the number of flips.

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Posted by guest, Jul 23, 2008 3:07PM

i believe the correct answer is in the time you asked me to spend flipping a coin fifty times, i spent the first "flip-time" considering the statistics behind such a situation, and the ladder 49 "flip-times" executing 49 successful trades... beeeyeaaahhh!

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Posted by guest, Jul 23, 2008 3:09PM

i believe the correct answer is if youre looking on craigslist for a finance job, then you automatically are blacklisted, i wouldnt want to have to have to sit on the couch of an associate whose piece of furniture i had known come from the exact site of the posting...

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Posted by guest, Jul 23, 2008 3:14PM

if you're so smart why are you living in delaware?

-casual californian observer

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Posted by guest, Jul 23, 2008 3:17PM

I figure they just want to see how desparate you are to get a job. I remember going on an interview when times were REALLY good for job seekers. I came into a place and they gave a form to fill out with a bunch or really stupid questions. They thought they were being cute. I just walked out. Maybe it is the opposite now. They want to see what someone will go through and it they are willing to do too much, not hire them!!!

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Posted by guest, Jul 23, 2008 3:20PM

@1:42 [left nameless out of charity]

re: "no programming skills at all"

"=IF(RAND()>0.5, "H","T"), then drag into 50 cells."

That's a recipe for an unfair coin,

Also possibly overlooked is the fact that your RAND() function may return negative values, in an "unfixed" version of Excel.

I wonder how much of the boo-boos were caused by something like this and the random rounding errors that nobody notices.

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Posted by guest, Jul 23, 2008 3:24PM

Mr./Ms. California Casual, now you've asked TGFD the fundamental question that should never be asked. Short answer is: Delaware is the center of the universe in terms of importance, judicial wisdom, loveliness, prosperity, beauty of its women, warmth of its residents, etc. Not to mention the great attraction of cow-tipping.

But I'm sure TGFD, aka TOGFD, aka Humbert Humbert, will go into greater detail.

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Posted by guest, Jul 23, 2008 3:26PM

@ 17:

there is certainly a way to increase *substantially* the likelihood of flipping the side of the coin you wish to.

the term "coin toss" is a colloquialism for chance.

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Posted by Joseph di Jersey City, Jul 23, 2008 3:27PM

21: True, but there's no way one would notice the difference in 50 "flips" given that the chance of rand() producing exactly 1/2 is 1/1E15.

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Posted by guest, Jul 23, 2008 3:31PM

wow, look at all quants and wannabes showing off.

business is slow?

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Posted by guest, Jul 23, 2008 3:45PM

Delaware is great, it really is. We royals visit at least twice a year.

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Posted by guest, Jul 23, 2008 3:50PM

@14, I think there may be something to that:

Jython 2.2.1 on java1.5.0
>>> import random
>>> b = [random.randrange(2) for item in range(50)]
>>> b
[1, 0, 1, 0, 0, 0, 1, 0, 1, 0, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 0, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 0, 0, 0, 1, 1, 1, 1, 0, 1, 1, 0, 1, 0, 1, 0, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1]

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Posted by guest, Jul 23, 2008 4:09PM

HHTHTTTHHTTHTTTHHTTTHHHTTHHHTHTTTHTHHTTTHTHHTHTHTTTHTTH

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Posted by guest, Jul 23, 2008 4:22PM

Wrong. You guys are all wrong. The answer is always heads. But let's see if today's your lucky day...

Harvey Dent

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Posted by guest, Jul 23, 2008 4:38PM

The answer is what ever the criminal CFO wants it to be.

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Posted by guest, Jul 23, 2008 4:44PM

SmartAss#35 @3:45pm...

You're right about Delaware being "great", but the only "royal" you know is some clown who works for for the KC Royals baseball farm team who might come here twice a year to visit the Wilmington Blue Rocks.

Aren't you just a genius.

The Guy from Delaware

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Posted by guest, Jul 23, 2008 4:46PM

@casual californian

Somewhat redundant, no? That's what I love about CA--we're always casual. As for Humbert Humbert, I'm guessing he lives in Delaware for the women, specifically the 12-year old girls who love his swimwear.

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Posted by guest, Jul 23, 2008 4:47PM

39: You told the joke wrong.

The joke is supposed to be that the CFO asked the quant in the interview, "What is your answer to the 50 coin flips?" The winning candidate will say, "Whatever you want it to be!"

~Shecky Buffett

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Posted by guest, Jul 23, 2008 4:48PM

No comment on TGFD's blue rocks...really. I'll resist. Somehow.

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Posted by guest, Jul 23, 2008 4:50PM

Correct he is actually their bat cleaner, occasionally moonlighting as a hedge fund manager, and then begs on the weekends. NB He earns the majority of his income from the first and third jobs.

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Posted by MuniShe, Jul 23, 2008 4:54PM

14 - your comment made me laugh and then get depressed because i remembered all that from a class I had at U of C

Dont remember it being Thaler though, it was a masters of stats course that some of the econ nerds took as well.

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Posted by guest, Jul 23, 2008 5:19PM

The Google billboards were a little more interesting (http://news.cnet.com/Google-recruits-eggheads-with-mystery-billboard/2100-1023_3-5263941.html?tag=txt.6)

T.G.

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Posted by guest, Jul 23, 2008 5:24PM

Hey 45, 14 here. Do you remember the discussion of the "hot hand" in basketball? Is the player really more likely to get in the basket because he has the "hot hand" or is it just random?

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Posted by Anal_yst, Jul 23, 2008 5:30PM

@ 46

Google used to take out ads in technology review (maybe other mags as well?) with cryptic puzzles, not that I ever even attempted one for more than 30 seconds, just saying

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Posted by guest, Jul 23, 2008 5:38PM

@4:48pm...

What can I say...It's been a really long time. My Viagra-Cialis-Cat Urine cocktail stopped working long ago.

The Guy from Delaware

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Posted by MuniShe, Jul 23, 2008 5:42PM

I do remember some 'hot hand' analysis but drank away most of the brain cells that held grad school info by now. Still have the online draft of the book we used but really dont want to re-open.

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Posted by guest, Jul 23, 2008 5:46PM

Clowns @#43,44...

I don't want to drone on about the Wilmington Blue Rocks. I'm not 100% sure, but I think they are a minor-league franchise that farms for that K.C. Royals outfit. I don't follow baseball at all; I don't like it. The Blue Rocks are here, so I can't help knowing about them.

CA@#41...

"Chicks of all ages", you know. The 12-year old girl is only one of many chicks who made flattering comments about my Lilly "swimwear". BTW, how many chicks come up to you and do the same? Tell us. I'm sure we'd all like to know.

The Guy from Delaware

p.s. All these rediculous posts analyzing that coin-flipping mumbo-jumbo are just plain bullshit worthless.

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Posted by kimbo, Jul 23, 2008 5:51PM

when prepping for quant gigs, ensure you can answer the following;

which bear is best?

a) grizzly bear
b) polar bear
c) bear stearns
d) brown bear

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Posted by guest, Jul 23, 2008 5:51PM

We were SmartAsses earlier in the day. Is this an upgrade or a downgrade, Humbert?

And I receive no compliments from ladies regarding my Lilly swimwear, as I would never wear anything from that hideous brand. Also, I rarely move in the same circles as 12-year old girls, as I'm not old as dirt, er, I mean 60, and don't have grandchildren.

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Posted by Judson_Clark, Jul 23, 2008 5:56PM

d) brown bear is definitely best.

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Posted by guest, Jul 23, 2008 5:56PM

ShitStain#49 @5:38pm...

The last time you impersonated me, I said I'd call you "ShitStain" when I saw your work again.

I also said that you should get your own material. Well, you did post something original. Pretty funny, actually.

Now, take the next step, and get your own moniker.

The Guy from Delaware

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Posted by guest, Jul 23, 2008 6:08PM

SmartAss#53 @5:51pm...

Your latest post appears to be written by some dumb clod who's just trying to save face on DB.

Tell us though about the chicks who come up and make flattering comments to you. I'd still like to hear something from you that doesn't sound like bullshit.

Come on, don't be bashful. You can do it.

The Guy from Delaware

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Posted by guest, Jul 23, 2008 6:11PM

See, here's the thing, TGFD. There's no face to be saved. I could claim that I'm a handsome, charming fellow who happens to hobnob with royals and parties with movie stars. However, when you get right down to it, it's an unverifiable claim. Just like most of the ones you make. So I see no reason to bother.

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Posted by guest, Jul 23, 2008 6:41PM

Guest#57 @6:11pm...

This was your first decent post. I never said anything about "movie stars", though. I don't desire their company, nor do I follow their antics. They're trash in my opinion.

It would be imprudent for me to verify any claim on DB, but I have never lied about anything in my posts. I've told enough to keep my posts interesting, but not enough to leave any 'bread-crumb trails'.

Isn't there anything about you that would fit well in the "Sex and Crazy" mode that is so popular on DB? I'm sure there is something truthful and interesting you can share.

The Guy from Delaware

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Posted by To The Hilt, Jul 23, 2008 7:44PM

I just flipped 50 heads in a row.

Heads. Heads again. Heads again....

What are the odds!?!?!

Don't answer that.

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Posted by guest, Jul 23, 2008 7:58PM

Holy crap!

I flipped a coin 50 times and got:

HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Am I hired?

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Posted by guest, Jul 23, 2008 8:04PM

@60, we have a District Attorney position open if you're interested.

-Mayor of Gotham

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Posted by guest, Jul 23, 2008 10:38PM

Now I flipped it 50 times and got:

TTTTTTTTTNOMOREHEADSFORYOUNOWYOUGIVEUSSOMETTTTTTTTT

Very confusing.

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Posted by guest, Jul 24, 2008 1:03AM

Ha! #61 I lol'd

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Posted by guest, Jul 24, 2008 1:18AM

From my diminutive, barely-5-foot-tall Pakistani-born, heavily-accented engineering stats prof many moons ago:

"You flip a coin. You get head or you get tail. You make a bet on outcome. Sometimes you win. Sometimes you lose. Try a game at the bar looking for same outcomes. You get head or you get tail at the end of the night. Outcome is different but you do not necessarily lose if you only get head and not get tail."

--Calgary Schmooze

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Posted by guest, Jul 24, 2008 1:23AM

Oh yeah, and reading the CL ad brought back bad memories too...

http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=5074102253

--CS

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Posted by guest, Jul 24, 2008 2:05AM

#65 Matlab actually is really easy to use, it's Maple that's complete garbage.

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Posted by guest, Jul 24, 2008 3:19AM

Matlab might be easy to use now, but we still viewed it as dogshit in the early 90s running on Windows 3.1 if we were lucky. Being drunk half the time probably didn't help either.

I was a bigger fan of smoking a controller on the lab bench because of improper placement of poles and zeros than to fight with Simulink to get the same output.

"You can sit there and spend 3 hours to simulate your way to a 10/10 on the assignment. I'll take the 5/10, bullshit an explanation in the lab report and drink beer and attempt to talk to girls for an extra 2 hours."

Maple = Waterloo. Same generation of engineering and comp-sci dudes who brought you Watcom and QNX.


--CS

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Posted by guest, Jul 24, 2008 8:24AM

I think it's interesting that the two big comment gatherers are on topics relating to sex and now a math problem...you go guys!

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Posted by guest, Jul 24, 2008 9:08AM

TGFD - If you don't like baseball, get out of America.

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Posted by guest, Jul 24, 2008 9:47AM

I wasn't able to comment on TGFD's various lunacies yesterday due to being required to actually work.

Adding to his claims of acquaintance with a Dupont and Senator Joe Biden (who gives him government cheese), TGFD now claims to hobnob with members of royalty. A number of the European royal families seem to be imbred and a more than a little odd ... so maybe there is some common ground, although they would probably find the conditions in TGFD's mother's basement where TGFD has his digs to be "not quite our class, darling."

Putting royaltist fantasies aside for a moment, doesn't anyone else find it disturbing that a sixty year old man would boast of a twelve year old girl's interest in his body to an audience of men twenty to thirty-five years younger than he?

How many things wrong do you see in this picture? If you ignore the offensiveness of including a 12 year old girl in this fantasy, you are left with a 60 year old guy obsessively boasting about his sexual attractiveness to much younger men. Hmmm. I think TGFD is not only living in his mother's basement, but is also stuck in her closet.

And to go back to an earlier point, I think we have to recognize that a twelve year old girl should not be the target of sexual attention because she is a child, and maintain some standards, even in TGFD's mad realm.

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Posted by guest, Jul 24, 2008 4:10PM

Guest#70 @9:47am...

"TGFD's mad realm"…Excellent. I like it. It’s my favorite part of your post.

Just to clarify a few points:

1) Delaware is a small state, next to last in both size & population. A bit larger than RI with a few more people than Wyoming. Depending upon where one lives, one knows a lot of people. I happen to live where the duPonts, Biden, and all the "rich bastards" live. My wife & I do have some good social connections, so knowing those folks is not difficult.
2) I was kidding about Biden giving me Govt cheese, but one of you mentioned the cheese, so I couldn't resist. Everything else I've posted is true.
3) "Hobnobbing" with Royalty is not what I said. Europe has a number of royal families, and I do “know” some Royals personally. We don't "hobnob" because I'm here, and they're over there. I won't say any more on the subject.
4) Please get off that “12-year old girl” thing. I've already discussed that; it’s nothing. You seem to be the only DB clown hanging on to it. "Chicks of all ages", you know. BTW, I never said anything about my body, only my swim trunks. I think you are ‘stuck on crazy’, yet you continue to masquerade as a sane person.
5) Post #1 on this thread was my "generous gesture", just as #9 said. All I got in return was abuse.

Lastly, TGFD will be offline for a while starting Sat 07/26. I may not be back until mid August. We’ll be on vacation. After all, everyone deserves a vacation… even crazy people (like me). In my absence, beware of TGFD ‘Imposters’. They may show up and attempt to discredit me (I know; you’ll tell me that I can do that just fine on my own).

All is well in “TGFD’s mad realm”. I hope you don’t mind my using some of your ‘material’. You did well with that one.

The Guy from Delaware

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Posted by guest, Jul 25, 2008 4:59PM

Willian Ferri, Nick Vagra and legal at UBS. Hey, look..they are going to paying for the very longterm..Would not want to be near those people but so..

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Posted by guest, Aug 03, 2008 11:01AM

Albourne Village dying quick death. What gives?

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Posted by guest, Aug 06, 2008 1:59PM

UBS - John Fraser a POS because he doesn't understand investments? as per the article? Usually people give Oszzie's the BODoubt..but here consensus among SOME that Fraser/Ferri are crap is plausible

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Posted by guest, Aug 07, 2008 2:00PM

the word on Scoby/Ghavami 69 is very funny yet sad

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Posted by guest, Aug 07, 2008 3:38PM

UBS Mike Dudley , come on ,. distanant results to present average are , crap, fir e this guy

Investor

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Posted by guest, Aug 11, 2008 5:31PM

Let's see how UBS uses intel to track people...legal..

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Posted by guest, Aug 11, 2008 5:35PM

William Ferri, (Dick), could you explain for the readers pls? Maaany thx,

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Posted by guest, Aug 11, 2008 5:42PM

UBS, the paradox of the father with a medically-chanllenged child, recorded use of illegal...,ill, sorry immoral(shdnt talk)..girl but on the board of..which bank..envelopes deposited...not at UBS...?

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Posted by guest, Aug 11, 2008 5:43PM

UBS, the paradox of the father with a medically-challenged child, recorded use of illegal...,ill, sorry immoral(shdnt talk)..girl but on the board of..which bank..x compensated?...not at UBS...?

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Posted by guest, Aug 11, 2008 5:55PM

http://www.nypost.com/

UBS Mike Dudley

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Posted by guest, Aug 11, 2008 5:59PM

the paradox of the father with a medically-challenged child, allused use of illegal...,ill, sorry immoral(shdnt talk)..girl but on the board of..which bank..x compensated?...not at Zurich Centrale...?

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Posted by guest, Aug 12, 2008 11:30PM

UBS BREAKUP...scobygoes down, yuk

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Posted by guest, Aug 14, 2008 4:17PM

slight..digression. The f****g mexicans. This is not a society that the USA can live with. Not crazy about Russian in Georgia..but we don't like the Mexicans, Cut the corruption, kidnapping etc etc or the US should drop Afghanistan and wipe out Mexico and it's pathetic inhabitants.

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Posted by guest, Aug 14, 2008 4:33PM

The Mxc are full of shit and just like the Colombians etc. Never any serious financial businensess without corruption. Really, worse than anything Al-Queda could worry you about. Neckties,sure. Civilization, nfw.

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Posted by guest, Aug 14, 2008 4:35PM

The Mxc are full of shit and just like the Colombians etc. Never any serious financial businensess without corruption. Really, worse than anything Al-Queda could worry you about. Neckties,sure. Civilization, nfw.

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Posted by guest, Aug 14, 2008 4:38PM

The Mxc are full of shit and just like the Colombians etc. Never any serious financial businensess without corruption. Really, worse than anything Al-Queda could worry you about. Neckties,sure. Civilization, nfw.

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Posted by guest, Aug 14, 2008 6:06PM

I reject these comments and fuck you


J Fraser

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Posted by guest, Aug 14, 2008 7:55PM

Instead of rejecting comments, why don't you just learn how to work for living, you piece of shit.

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Posted by guest, Aug 14, 2008 8:00PM

btw, I have no proof that Dudley is sucking anyone's cock. Could be wrong

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Posted by guest, Aug 14, 2008 8:10PM

Think what MAN meant was..if you don't like BALLS, get out of America....personally don' think the country is ruled bt faggots..yet

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