fucking sack of shit full of nothing airbag dumb fuck "I didn't pay attention in finance class 30 years ago" "I couldn't spell CDO until yesterday" wanna-be president being "I love america and bankers turned it socialist" empty headed foul mouthed strategerizing full-of-anal-sperm from taking it from the donors wind bags.
Wouldn't it be convenient if the republicans didn't have to debate at all, let alone postpone them? Sarah Palin i limiting reporters' access to photo ops and now McCain is avoiding debates.
I do think the best chance they have of winning is if they don't speak at all. And apparently even THEY agree with me.
McCain better do something...latest polls show the race tilting somewhat substantially towards Obama. This economic crisis interrupts his campaign's plans to focus the election on Rove-ian wedge issues.
I'm sorry, but LAME. Him suspending a debate that only takes a few hours out of the day is not going to magically solve this. As if in an hour or two, the economy will be saved.
@ 11 - McCain can ONLY talk about time spent in Hanoi Hilton and Palin can only talk about killing and skinning animals. Yet the most fucked part it they still stand a good chance of getting elected because the general public is that stupid. Especially on this issue.
@ 22 i know.
I burst out laughing when hank answered her and the look on his face was a polite but amused "what the fuck are you talking about lady".
Did anyone tell maxine what the focus of the hearing were today. You would think that Hanks and Bens presence was a dead give away and yet she was talking about how unfair this was for small business/blacks/minorties/woman.
@ 22 i know.
I burst out laughing when hank answered her and the look on his face was a polite but amused "what the fuck are you talking about lady".
Did anyone tell maxine what the focus of the hearing were today. You would think that Hanks and Bens presence was a dead give away and yet she was talking about how unfair this was for small business/blacks/minorties/woman.
@25 Agreed. Dems problem is they think the american public is intelligent while republicans know how stupid they really are. When it comes down to it, Americans would rather have a president they can watch nascar and go hunting with than a president with intelligence and resolve.
@ MostOffensive - I agree, Bloomberg would make a great treasury secretary, but I think he should save his time and resources to run for president in 4 years.
35 Ya think re bloomberg? He's not a finance guy - more of a journalist that adopted very well to the post-print era. He has great administrative skills. Good at making things run well. Maybe something to do with urban affairs instead.
Hawaii Pacific College (1982)-1 semester
North Idaho College(1983)-2 semesters
University of Idaho(1984)-2 semesters
Matanuska College(1985)-2 semesters
University of Idaho(1986/7)-3 semesters
All culminating in a BS in Communications.
You're going to tell me she's qualified to run one of the worlds superpowers?
She's not qualified to drive me around in a f'in cab.
Of course, he's seeking empathy and yes it's a political maneuver. That's how the game is played. But at least he's doing it with action rather than "hope".
Not everyone in the world has the money to go to a private university/college in the northeast with a bunch of kids from prep schools named after cities in England.
(Nor were people exposed to the same degree back in the day to 1,000's of colleges, especially outside of their regions)
Though she was all over the place, going to U. Idaho shouldn't disqualify her from being president. You elitist prick.
@38 that same turn up your nose mentality is what ruined wall street. who gives a fuck where she went to school. Bush went to Yale. And remember he was born in CT not TX.
University of Idaho is perfectly laudable. WHat is not laudable - is moving around to 5-6 schools and the extra time for teh communications degree from those 5-6 schools. It shows a bit of indecisiveness or randomness. I dont care about the schools frankly. It doesn't show focus.
I think it's sad that you don't hold her to a higher standard. Honestly, if we knew that about someone who was coming for a job at my company - it would give us severe pause!
University of Idaho is perfectly laudable. WHat is not laudable - is moving around to 5-6 schools and the extra time for teh communications degree from those 5-6 schools. It shows a bit of indecisiveness or randomness. I dont care about the schools frankly. It doesn't show focus.
I think it's sad that you don't hold her to a higher standard. Honestly, if we knew that about someone who was coming for a job at my company - it would give us severe pause!
University of Idaho is perfectly laudable. WHat is not laudable - is moving around to 5-6 schools and the extra time for teh communications degree from those 5-6 schools. It shows a bit of indecisiveness or randomness. I dont care about the schools frankly. It doesn't show focus.
I think it's sad that you don't hold her to a higher standard. Honestly, if we knew that about someone who was coming for a job at my company - it would give us severe pause!
Geez ... what's next? Clay Aiken is gay, the market is going to hell in a handbasket. Next thing you know, McCain will ask to postpone the election to coincide with his graduation from The New School (where he is enrolled in new media and finance classes)
University of Idaho is perfectly laudable. WHat is not laudable - is moving around to 5-6 schools and the extra time for teh communications degree from those 5-6 schools. It shows a bit of indecisiveness or randomness. I dont care about the schools frankly. It doesn't show focus.
I think it's sad that you don't hold her to a higher standard. Honestly, if we knew that about someone who was coming for a job at my company - it would give us severe pause!
University of Idaho is perfectly laudable. WHat is not laudable - is moving around to 5-6 schools and the extra time for teh communications degree from those 5-6 schools. It shows a bit of indecisiveness or randomness. I dont care about the schools frankly. It doesn't show focus.
I think it's sad that you don't hold her to a higher standard. Honestly, if we knew that about someone who was coming for a job at my company - it would give us severe pause!
The McCain-is-scared argument pretty much falls flat on its face considering that McCain challenged Obama to 10 town hall debates, and Obama refused, backing down from his "I'll debate John McCain anytime and anywhere pledge."
Obama was taking 3 days to prepare for the debate, so it is not just a few hours. The Senators need to do their jobs.
@55, 56, 57, 60 - how does your firm feel about people who have trouble understanding the 2 sentences to the left of the area where comments are typed? By posting the same comment 4 times, were you hoping to avoid being accused of indecisiveness?
it doesnt matter which one of them is elected. the president is just an employee of the 'state' which happens to be the collective consciousness of a bunch of fucking retards. i fucking hate politicians and everything they represent. bastards.
have you seen these hearings? I believe some senators would have done better trying to figure out the nyt cross word puzzle. please, what the hell is mcc going to add to this debate? this looks like a head fake (true or not) because he knew about this since sunday, why did he wait so long?
on a separate note, did anyone notice that fannie doubled in value over the past 2 days?
#48 tell me about all the oversight committees that Obambi is on.....Chairman of the Senate sub-comittee on Afghanistan...but unfortunately he never even convened a meeting
The Harvard lawyer will rip McCain apart in the debates. He just doesn't want to embarrass the old man. It's like throwing sucker punches on a man all tied up.
Bloomberg WOULD NOT MAKE A GOOD SECRETARY OF ANYTHING. The man is sexist, racist, ruthless above all. Anyone who has worked with him knows what a scumbag he is. Cynics would say-oh, that what makes a great leader. He has no moral fiber-I wouldn't trust him. I also wouldn't want him to solve our problems.
TRUST ME-DEEP DOWN, he's a SOCIALIST like the rest of them only looking out for HIS BEST INTERESTS.
He should go back to managing the kiddies in the playpin that is LP.
Didn't McCain say last week that the economy was fundamentally sound? Now he's willing to lose the election to save it? Because all this shows is the guy wants to avoid talking to the voters about the real issues. Congress is already running scared about this bailout. McCain and Obama should be upfront and debate the real issues. If they both feel the bailout is the best thing since sliced bread, come up and say it live in a debate.
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@80. Nope. I worked with him, for him for 15 years. I did very well and was compensated handsomely for it.
Just telling it like it is. He did well on "Meet the Press" last Sunday. BBG mentioned that "People at my company who work hard are compensated." True. People who work hard at company and AREN'T compensated leave.
Despite his reputation as a private businessman, he shouldn't be anywhere near our national infrastructure.
All the politicians are getting some face time out of this fiasco. OK. Now pass the package. Why? Because the party is over. And that means your party.
"Though she was all over the place, going to U. Idaho shouldn't disqualify her from being president."
It took her six years to get a jerk off degree and you think she's qualified to be VP of the United States.
Obviously the debate was postponed because Palin is still having troubles finders her ass with both hands.
Don't get me wrong she's good looking and I would lick her ass unitl the moose come home. But to think that she's one heart beat away from successfully representing the United States on three serious international matters is scary.
1.) An out of control anti-American country that supports terrorism and has nuclear weapons. Pakistan
2.) An anti-American country seeking nuclear weapons and provoking its neighbors into conflict. Iran
3.) A pissed off and humiliated Russia looking to reestablish their global power/influence at the expense of another cold war.
Just what the fucken United States needs, a gum smacking hockey mom in an SUV acting like Billy Badass. At that point the U.S. will be on the bridge to nowhere.
Folks, time to find an island in the atlantic, populate it with smart people who know how to issue a currency (call it the new dollar) and run the global economy without giving rednecks the vote every 4 years
bam! obama just gave mcc a right jab. he said, "it is the job of the president to be able to focus on more than one issue at a time"...I think he just said mcc can't multi-task in a very political manner.
Can he not focus on the economic crisis AND take a few hours out of 1 day to debate? Now that I think about it, when was the last time anybody saw McCain walk AND chew gum. Hmmmmmm.
@tgfd - slow your roll. I'm not talking about saving a campaign, I'm talking about the here and now. the unwashed masses have A.D.D. in the worst way. it's these "snippets" that make the nightly news which jane and joe 6-pack rush home to every night. rightly or wrongly, it was a good jab. just accept that fact and move on...
on another separate note, did anyone see hammering hank just beyatch slap that senator?
If I recall the whole/hole cause of the meltdown is transparency (actually goes much deeper to our posession & dept actualized psyche, but never mind that).
Transparency, wouldn't a debate assist with showing the vox populi their positions?
McCain hasn't set foot in Congress to cast a vote in like six months, but he needs to suspend the debate to focus on an issue in which he has no expertise whatsoever?
OK, McCain might be too busy on Friday to show up for the debate, trying to learn what the economy is. Last week he thought it was fundamentally sound, now he's confused and needs some time.
Fair, McCain should send Sara Palin in his place. She's supposed to be his backup anyway if they get elected. Grab the opportunity Palin, no time out for you.
well according to the McCain campaign he did invent the blackberry. Couldnt he take one with him to the debates to keep up to date with whats going on in DC?
McCain just handed the election to Obama. He has proven that he cannot multi-task.
As we speak, there is a war going on, an economic crisis of epic proportions, still dealing with the aftermath of Hurricane Ike (and Katrina), no resolution on healthcare, etc.
We need a President that can walk and chew gum at the same time, not one who whines to the teacher that he missed class the day economics was taught.
While viewing C-Span a few minutes ago, I watched one stuffed-shirted Robert Horwats, Int'l Vice Chairman, Goldman Sachs & Co pontificating on about something or other in such an incoherent fashion that nearly everyone at the conference was in a f'n coma.
What a fucking douchebag. A captain of finance? With people like him running the place, it's no f'n wonder GS was on the ropes.
Face it clowns. Wall Street has lost its mistique. The more often douches like Horwats appear on TV and in public, the less credibility Wall St retains.
To tell you the truth, I could have run GS into the ground just as efficiently as douchebag Horwats and others did. Only difference is, I wouldn't have charged as much.
Not that I mind him being around, but he's got a real natty light kind of thing going on. Going to crappy school in fact does, generally, not equal good enough to run superpower. I admit I'm not good enough to run the country; why does everyone have to be the little emperor these days. Know your place people!
@29: You fucking retard. It was Obama who reached out to McCain for a bipartisan solution to Wall Street's fuck up. Your talking points are awfully stale.
@ 129
EXACTLY
What is the matter with elitism? Why do we aspire to be lead by mediocraty?
Lets face it both democrat and republican candidates are from the elite class. So dispense with the arguement and choose which member of the elite class you want to go with.
But don't pretend that the guy with 8 houses and a wife worth $200 million or the other guy with a harvard law degree and a wife with the same are not memebers of the elite class - they both are!
This country needs to start aspiring to elitism, again!
I agree, you have to be smart to run this country. I'm saying you shouldn't be disqualified JUST based on where you went to school. I'm bothered by the fact that it took her 6 years. I guess my post was "too long to read."
Harry Reid got an associate degree then graduated from Utah State. He's running the senate (when Cheney's not around). Nancy Pelosi went to Trinity University in DC (whatever that is). And some people bump around college and never finish.
The whole rant was more along the lines of us Wall Street people being elitist jerks about where we went to school, when you darn well know half the people in our classes at the Harvards/Whartons/etc.'s were filled with Bushes and not Obamas.
For all you sexist males here, particularly the guy criticizing her credentials simply because she won a beauty pageant:
"The Miss America Organization is one of the nation's leading achievement programs and the world's largest provider of scholarship assistance for young women. Last year, the Miss America Organization and its state and local organizations made available more than $45 million in cash and scholarship assistance. This assistance is not just for the handful of young women who become Miss America, but is available to the over 12,000 young women who compete in the state and local competitions as well"
Has it occurred to anyone else that McCain might be ill? He canceled a Late Night appearance, read from the Teleprompter, and took no questions. McCain is an older fellow, and this behavior lets him slide into the pack of Congress with an excuse, unlike a 90-minute debate where it would be difficult to pretend that he is hale and hearty.
53, TGFD and all of you claiming that the elitist attitude is what 'got us here'.
Screw you. This whole thing was started by Lewis Ranieri and his gang. A fat Italian guy, who wanted to be a chef and started in the mailroom. If we'd kept New York to the Ivy League crowd and London to the Sloane Rangers, no-one would have been smart enough to invent anything that could screw things up this much.
Let’s be honest people. If you think that wasn’t a political move the box on your electronic voting screen should be disabled. A couple of points:
1.) They both have planes, which last time I checked go fairly fast.
2.) They were almost done w/agreeing to the terms.
3.) The president of the U.S. should be the ultimate multitasker, if you can’t do many things at once…you should redo your job search criteria on monster.com
4.) 9pm Friday night you’re going to be working?
5.) McCain hasn’t voted since April.
6.) McCain acknowledged economics isn’t his ‘thing’, YET somehow in 48 hours he’s going to become the Adam Smith? http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110007600
7.) Obama called HIM at 8 am to talk about a joint statement.
One last thing, people that STILL think the McCain/Palin ticket is better fit to lead the world for the next 4 to 8 years are one, some or all of the following: (a.) idiots (b) racist (c) dim-witted (d) can’t distinguish nose from there asses
Let’s be honest people. If you think that wasn’t a political move the box on your electronic voting screen should be disabled. A couple of points:
1.) They both have planes, which last time I checked go fairly fast.
2.) They were almost done w/agreeing to the terms.
3.) The president of the U.S. should be the ultimate multitasker, if you can’t do many things at once…you should redo your job search criteria on monster.com
4.) 9pm Friday night you’re going to be working?
5.) McCain hasn’t voted since April.
6.) McCain acknowledged economics isn’t his ‘thing’, YET somehow in 48 hours he’s going to become the Adam Smith? http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110007600
7.) Obama called HIM at 8 am to talk about a joint statement.
One last thing, people that STILL think the McCain/Palin ticket is better fit to lead the world for the next 4 to 8 years are one, some or all of the following: (a.) idiots (b) racist (c) dim-witted (d) can’t distinguish nose from there asses
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 3:14PM
Well, his vote matters most than anyone's as most republicans will vote the same way he votes.
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 3:14PM
His request is more then fair.
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 3:15PM
Too long, didn't read it.
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 3:16PM
Read: McCain's postponing the debate to learn what the Economy actually is.
Posted by MostOffensive , Sep 24, 2008 3:16PM
obama should do it too instead of holing up in Florida. Also, Bloomberg should be McCain's Secretary of the Treasury
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 3:17PM
finally someone has come to save the day
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 3:18PM
This whole thing is so fucked up. Paulson, Bernanke, Bush are out of their fucking minds.
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 3:18PM
i also heard barney frank hasn't taken a dump in order to focus on the economy
Posted by a dead horse , Sep 24, 2008 3:20PM
He suspended his campaign, not just the debate
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 3:21PM
fucking sack of shit full of nothing airbag dumb fuck "I didn't pay attention in finance class 30 years ago" "I couldn't spell CDO until yesterday" wanna-be president being "I love america and bankers turned it socialist" empty headed foul mouthed strategerizing full-of-anal-sperm from taking it from the donors wind bags.
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 3:23PM
Wouldn't it be convenient if the republicans didn't have to debate at all, let alone postpone them? Sarah Palin i limiting reporters' access to photo ops and now McCain is avoiding debates.
I do think the best chance they have of winning is if they don't speak at all. And apparently even THEY agree with me.
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 3:23PM
more like McCain has suspended his campaign to try and UNDERSTAND the economy.
what a gutless prick.
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 3:23PM
@10 Too long, didn't read it.
Posted by EricM , Sep 24, 2008 3:24PM
Any change you can clarify that, @10, you seem a bit uncommitted.
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 3:24PM
McCain better do something...latest polls show the race tilting somewhat substantially towards Obama. This economic crisis interrupts his campaign's plans to focus the election on Rove-ian wedge issues.
Posted by blndebnker , Sep 24, 2008 3:25PM
I'm sorry, but LAME. Him suspending a debate that only takes a few hours out of the day is not going to magically solve this. As if in an hour or two, the economy will be saved.
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 3:26PM
this is @10, can I get that on a mug?
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 3:27PM
Too long, didn't read.
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 3:28PM
Why don't we just get the $700 billion from Tony Rezko and still go ahead with the debate Friday?
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 3:28PM
@10- awesome!
-11
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 3:29PM
Mccain on Intrade has ticked down to .44 on this.
We are fucking SCREWED with these assholes, folks
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 3:29PM
Who the hell elected Maxine Waters. Her questions for Hank and Ben are retarded.
Posted by RAW DOG , Sep 24, 2008 3:29PM
Bess - What is a "campaing"?
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 3:32PM
I think if McCain performed a jig it might help a little.
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 3:32PM
@ 10 - nice.
@ 11 - McCain can ONLY talk about time spent in Hanoi Hilton and Palin can only talk about killing and skinning animals. Yet the most fucked part it they still stand a good chance of getting elected because the general public is that stupid. Especially on this issue.
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 3:33PM
McCain hasn't cast a vote in the Senate since April. The best thing he could do is to continue that trend.
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 3:35PM
@10 - That is exactly what the doctor said would happen to you if you stopped taking your medication.
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 3:36PM
Barney Frank sounds funny. haha he said rectitude.
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 3:37PM
The man did the right thing. He is one of the more upstanding pols in DC. It shows commitment, no?
Name another one of the 600 fuckheads in Congress that have done anything proactive in this mess.
He also offered Obama to join him.
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 3:38PM
@ 25
would you rather elect an empty suit nobody and someone who thinks that FDR was president in 1929 and was on tv?
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 3:41PM
@12 - Maybe you should try "to" understand English better.
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 3:41PM
@ 22 i know.
I burst out laughing when hank answered her and the look on his face was a polite but amused "what the fuck are you talking about lady".
Did anyone tell maxine what the focus of the hearing were today. You would think that Hanks and Bens presence was a dead give away and yet she was talking about how unfair this was for small business/blacks/minorties/woman.
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 3:41PM
@ 22 i know.
I burst out laughing when hank answered her and the look on his face was a polite but amused "what the fuck are you talking about lady".
Did anyone tell maxine what the focus of the hearing were today. You would think that Hanks and Bens presence was a dead give away and yet she was talking about how unfair this was for small business/blacks/minorties/woman.
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 3:42PM
@25 Agreed. Dems problem is they think the american public is intelligent while republicans know how stupid they really are. When it comes down to it, Americans would rather have a president they can watch nascar and go hunting with than a president with intelligence and resolve.
I weep for the future.
-11
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 3:43PM
@ 4 - Agree.
@ MostOffensive - I agree, Bloomberg would make a great treasury secretary, but I think he should save his time and resources to run for president in 4 years.
@ 25 - And a better alternative is????
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 3:44PM
@29
get a clue shill, he's no upstanding pol. this is just a trick to gain empathy with the voters.
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 3:47PM
35 Ya think re bloomberg? He's not a finance guy - more of a journalist that adopted very well to the post-print era. He has great administrative skills. Good at making things run well. Maybe something to do with urban affairs instead.
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 3:48PM
Palin's long road to higher education.
Hawaii Pacific College (1982)-1 semester
North Idaho College(1983)-2 semesters
University of Idaho(1984)-2 semesters
Matanuska College(1985)-2 semesters
University of Idaho(1986/7)-3 semesters
All culminating in a BS in Communications.
You're going to tell me she's qualified to run one of the worlds superpowers?
She's not qualified to drive me around in a f'in cab.
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 3:48PM
@29, I said "more" upstanding. It's all relative.
Of course, he's seeking empathy and yes it's a political maneuver. That's how the game is played. But at least he's doing it with action rather than "hope".
Posted by girl , Sep 24, 2008 3:50PM
I'm loving this thread. @10& 11- spot on.
Posted by MostOffensive , Sep 24, 2008 3:50PM
@35 I was behind Bloomberg for president the whole time, to be honest
@37 not a finance guy? seriously?
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 3:51PM
Thanks girl, I heart you too!
-11
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 3:53PM
this is @10.
THESE are the fucking people we've elected:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcU4t6zRAKg
These PEOPLE. THESE. They can't spell. They don't know how to add. CARDBOARD DERIVATIVES. Fuck it. Just.. JUST FUCK it.
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 3:54PM
@ 35
What i have learned since the weekend when freddie and fannie were bailed - there is no better alterenative currently running.
They have both been awful. Neither have any real understanding of the main street or wall street economy or the interplay between the two.
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 3:54PM
41 Yes seriously. He's a tech guy.
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 3:58PM
We can only hope he permanently suspends his campaign.
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 3:59PM
@38:
Not everyone in the world has the money to go to a private university/college in the northeast with a bunch of kids from prep schools named after cities in England.
(Nor were people exposed to the same degree back in the day to 1,000's of colleges, especially outside of their regions)
Though she was all over the place, going to U. Idaho shouldn't disqualify her from being president. You elitist prick.
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 4:00PM
This is such a joke. The whole McCain/Palin ticket is a joke.
First of all, McCain isn't on any key committees with oversight responsibility.
Second, like having the candidates scurry back to Washington is going to help anything, rather than generate even more of a media circus.
McCain knows he's lost this election and is acting out of total desperation.
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 4:00PM
@38
I like the thought of having Sig and Edgar Hansen chairing key committees in the oval office.
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 4:01PM
hahahahaha....
We're all boned no matter who wins. They're basically exactly the same, yet everyone thinks they're worlds apart.
Dumbasses.
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 4:02PM
I think if McCain wants to postpone the debate, perhaps we need to have the VP debates on Friday...This way we save the venue and still get a debate?
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 4:03PM
@47 Being in a beauty pageant should disqualify you from being president.
It's the Presidency! Not F'in Project Runway.
Now go back to the bog you shit kicker wearing potato picking middle America NASCAR squeal like a pig REDNECK!
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 4:04PM
@38 that same turn up your nose mentality is what ruined wall street. who gives a fuck where she went to school. Bush went to Yale. And remember he was born in CT not TX.
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 4:06PM
@51
Great idea! Biden and Palin debate foreign policy, in 2 days time.
Somebody bring the popcorn...
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 4:06PM
47 - what a joke.
University of Idaho is perfectly laudable. WHat is not laudable - is moving around to 5-6 schools and the extra time for teh communications degree from those 5-6 schools. It shows a bit of indecisiveness or randomness. I dont care about the schools frankly. It doesn't show focus.
I think it's sad that you don't hold her to a higher standard. Honestly, if we knew that about someone who was coming for a job at my company - it would give us severe pause!
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 4:06PM
47 - what a joke.
University of Idaho is perfectly laudable. WHat is not laudable - is moving around to 5-6 schools and the extra time for teh communications degree from those 5-6 schools. It shows a bit of indecisiveness or randomness. I dont care about the schools frankly. It doesn't show focus.
I think it's sad that you don't hold her to a higher standard. Honestly, if we knew that about someone who was coming for a job at my company - it would give us severe pause!
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 4:06PM
47 - what a joke.
University of Idaho is perfectly laudable. WHat is not laudable - is moving around to 5-6 schools and the extra time for teh communications degree from those 5-6 schools. It shows a bit of indecisiveness or randomness. I dont care about the schools frankly. It doesn't show focus.
I think it's sad that you don't hold her to a higher standard. Honestly, if we knew that about someone who was coming for a job at my company - it would give us severe pause!
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 4:07PM
@11 Obama didn't grant access to reporters when he met with foreign leaders, but MSM didn't seem to mind then...
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 4:07PM
Geez ... what's next? Clay Aiken is gay, the market is going to hell in a handbasket. Next thing you know, McCain will ask to postpone the election to coincide with his graduation from The New School (where he is enrolled in new media and finance classes)
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 4:07PM
47 - what a joke.
University of Idaho is perfectly laudable. WHat is not laudable - is moving around to 5-6 schools and the extra time for teh communications degree from those 5-6 schools. It shows a bit of indecisiveness or randomness. I dont care about the schools frankly. It doesn't show focus.
I think it's sad that you don't hold her to a higher standard. Honestly, if we knew that about someone who was coming for a job at my company - it would give us severe pause!
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 4:09PM
47 - what a joke.
University of Idaho is perfectly laudable. WHat is not laudable - is moving around to 5-6 schools and the extra time for teh communications degree from those 5-6 schools. It shows a bit of indecisiveness or randomness. I dont care about the schools frankly. It doesn't show focus.
I think it's sad that you don't hold her to a higher standard. Honestly, if we knew that about someone who was coming for a job at my company - it would give us severe pause!
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 4:10PM
@ 30
Come on that made me laugh. How many people in the audience do you think had any idea of Biden's error? That scares me almost as much as Biden.
See my response @ 44.
Both Horrible.
At this point, i think my time on November 4, 2008 would be better spent picking the lint out of my belly button.
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 4:10PM
Also most private schools (the ones you are talking about) have serious endowments and give out serious financial aid vs. other schools.
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 4:11PM
@44 agreed
I think neither has a clue on what needs to be done to ease this crisis
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 4:13PM
The McCain-is-scared argument pretty much falls flat on its face considering that McCain challenged Obama to 10 town hall debates, and Obama refused, backing down from his "I'll debate John McCain anytime and anywhere pledge."
Obama was taking 3 days to prepare for the debate, so it is not just a few hours. The Senators need to do their jobs.
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 4:15PM
@55, 56, 57, 60 - how does your firm feel about people who have trouble understanding the 2 sentences to the left of the area where comments are typed? By posting the same comment 4 times, were you hoping to avoid being accused of indecisiveness?
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 4:18PM
Sorry about the multiple posts. It is the first time I have posted and I did not see any indication that it had posted. I apologize.
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 4:19PM
American psycho is coming to broadway.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/film/news/e3ic8b26fc03438b0b7a79f08a8a1b895cd?imw=Y
Posted by HAM05 , Sep 24, 2008 4:19PM
it doesnt matter which one of them is elected. the president is just an employee of the 'state' which happens to be the collective consciousness of a bunch of fucking retards. i fucking hate politicians and everything they represent. bastards.
Posted by Investorcluzo , Sep 24, 2008 4:21PM
have you seen these hearings? I believe some senators would have done better trying to figure out the nyt cross word puzzle. please, what the hell is mcc going to add to this debate? this looks like a head fake (true or not) because he knew about this since sunday, why did he wait so long?
on a separate note, did anyone notice that fannie doubled in value over the past 2 days?
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 4:22PM
I have a theory. And a good one too.
McCain/Palin suppporters are REDNECKS. FUCKING NIPPLE-SELF-TWISTING CHRISCROCKER-SUCKING MOTHER-HUMPING ANAL-PUMPING REDNECKS.
There's a hint of indisputable truth in that.
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 4:22PM
#48 tell me about all the oversight committees that Obambi is on.....Chairman of the Senate sub-comittee on Afghanistan...but unfortunately he never even convened a meeting
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 4:23PM
Why don't we just postpone the election while we're at it until this crisis "passes". This isn't a goddamn Hurricane.
This is the most retarded thing I have ever heard.
FAIL.
Posted by RAW DOG , Sep 24, 2008 4:23PM
Bess = flaming liberal
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 4:25PM
@22 waters is the worst. amazing these folks keep getting re-elected year after year.
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 4:27PM
@65
The Harvard lawyer will rip McCain apart in the debates. He just doesn't want to embarrass the old man. It's like throwing sucker punches on a man all tied up.
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 4:28PM
RAWDOG = Glory hole aficionado
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 4:29PM
Bloomberg WOULD NOT MAKE A GOOD SECRETARY OF ANYTHING. The man is sexist, racist, ruthless above all. Anyone who has worked with him knows what a scumbag he is. Cynics would say-oh, that what makes a great leader. He has no moral fiber-I wouldn't trust him. I also wouldn't want him to solve our problems.
TRUST ME-DEEP DOWN, he's a SOCIALIST like the rest of them only looking out for HIS BEST INTERESTS.
He should go back to managing the kiddies in the playpin that is LP.
Posted by diablo , Sep 24, 2008 4:30PM
Didn't McCain say last week that the economy was fundamentally sound? Now he's willing to lose the election to save it? Because all this shows is the guy wants to avoid talking to the voters about the real issues. Congress is already running scared about this bailout. McCain and Obama should be upfront and debate the real issues. If they both feel the bailout is the best thing since sliced bread, come up and say it live in a debate.
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 4:32PM
@78
Did Bloomberg anal-pump you? Why the intense hatred? Don't short his cox, bro. Short McCain. He's your man.
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 4:34PM
I think Bella the LEH bomb sniffing guard dog is smarter than at least half of our elected officials.
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 4:34PM
Here's a solution that prevents 2x & 3x posts. It works for me.
1) Write your post.
2) Push the red "Post Comment" button.
3) Wait at least 5 seconds.
4) Push the "Refresh" button at the top of your browser.
6) When the screen refreshes, Voila! There's your post on DB.
Your Welcome.
The Guy from Delaware
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 4:35PM
@78 Obviously a disgruntled former BLP employee.
Bloomberg would kick ass and take names.
- former BLP'er (not disgruntled)
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 4:36PM
@80. Nope. I worked with him, for him for 15 years. I did very well and was compensated handsomely for it.
Just telling it like it is. He did well on "Meet the Press" last Sunday. BBG mentioned that "People at my company who work hard are compensated." True. People who work hard at company and AREN'T compensated leave.
Despite his reputation as a private businessman, he shouldn't be anywhere near our national infrastructure.
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 4:38PM
McCain: The fundamentals of my debate preparation are not strong.
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 4:38PM
All the politicians are getting some face time out of this fiasco. OK. Now pass the package. Why? Because the party is over. And that means your party.
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 4:39PM
Oops! I forgot to insert Step 3.5) Push the "Stop" button at the top of the browser. The go on to Step 4).
See my post #82.
The Guy from Delaware
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 4:42PM
@10/43
I find your anger intoxicating. Rather sexy!
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 4:42PM
Also, You MAY have to repeat Step 6) "Refresh" if you post doesn't appear the first time.
See my posts #82 & #87.
The Guy from Delaware
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 4:42PM
@47
"Though she was all over the place, going to U. Idaho shouldn't disqualify her from being president."
It took her six years to get a jerk off degree and you think she's qualified to be VP of the United States.
Obviously the debate was postponed because Palin is still having troubles finders her ass with both hands.
Don't get me wrong she's good looking and I would lick her ass unitl the moose come home. But to think that she's one heart beat away from successfully representing the United States on three serious international matters is scary.
1.) An out of control anti-American country that supports terrorism and has nuclear weapons. Pakistan
2.) An anti-American country seeking nuclear weapons and provoking its neighbors into conflict. Iran
3.) A pissed off and humiliated Russia looking to reestablish their global power/influence at the expense of another cold war.
Just what the fucken United States needs, a gum smacking hockey mom in an SUV acting like Billy Badass. At that point the U.S. will be on the bridge to nowhere.
One heart beat away.
SPODE
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 4:42PM
@62 LOL on the lint pickin', thank you for that.
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 4:45PM
Burnankke!!
Folks, time to find an island in the atlantic, populate it with smart people who know how to issue a currency (call it the new dollar) and run the global economy without giving rednecks the vote every 4 years
call me a rat but this ship is sinking
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 4:47PM
@90
I'm a Billy Badass. Do I qualify for presidency?
Posted by Investorcluzo , Sep 24, 2008 4:48PM
bam! obama just gave mcc a right jab. he said, "it is the job of the president to be able to focus on more than one issue at a time"...I think he just said mcc can't multi-task in a very political manner.
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 4:49PM
McCain is too old. Obama is too young. What's the alternative? Biden/Palin ticket? Too late?
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 4:50PM
economy is still fundamentally sound. we have ample labor and capital deployed in diverse, profitable industries.
credit markets and finance are fucked right now.
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 4:52PM
@95,
WTF are you talking about? Close your browser and go back to performing your back office duties.
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 4:53PM
What is up with Paulson's scary crooked pinkie?
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 4:53PM
InvestorCluzo@#94...
I doub't if obama can focus on one issue, let alone "more than one".
obama's "right jab" isn't going anywhwre. Don't expect one comment to save obama's campaign. It won't.
The Guy from Delaware
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 4:54PM
DB, favor: on this board over the past few days there have been definitions, such as:
to FULD or to THAIN
They were spread out all over the place however. They were gems. Can we get a recap of those under one concise umbrella?
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 4:55PM
Can he not focus on the economic crisis AND take a few hours out of 1 day to debate? Now that I think about it, when was the last time anybody saw McCain walk AND chew gum. Hmmmmmm.
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 4:58PM
97 you're so high and mighty ain't ya? I bet waiters spit in your food before they serve you.
Posted by AJ , Sep 24, 2008 4:58PM
obama needs to say "ok, we'll just have the debate in DC friday night"
Posted by Investorcluzo , Sep 24, 2008 5:00PM
@tgfd - slow your roll. I'm not talking about saving a campaign, I'm talking about the here and now. the unwashed masses have A.D.D. in the worst way. it's these "snippets" that make the nightly news which jane and joe 6-pack rush home to every night. rightly or wrongly, it was a good jab. just accept that fact and move on...
on another separate note, did anyone see hammering hank just beyatch slap that senator?
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 5:00PM
I've been watching the hearings. Can someone please try to answer the following questions without trying to piss on me at the same time?
Question 1) Why can't we dispense with the "Mark-to-Market" Rule for the rancid securities?
Question 2) Why is anyone still buying and selling CDS's when nobody could pay for a default anyway?
The Guy from Delaware
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 5:03PM
@102
I gave you too much credit when I said back office. Back to the mailroom! I'm waiting on a package from Zappos. Chop chop.
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 5:04PM
@101
It's an election year for the congress, too. Maybe they should focus on their re-election campaigns. Let's just defer the whole thing until January.
I live in IL, and I think Obama needs to get up there and do his fucking current job instead of shooting out resumes for his next gig.
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 5:07PM
97 here
High and mighty I am alright!
@105
Know your place and go back to your janitorial duties. Don't attempt asking questions that you can't understand.
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 5:07PM
HE SAID TO PAULSON SMALL BANKERS SAID THINGS ARE GOING FINE. WAY TO GO RAINMAKERS AT WACHOVIA!!!!
-HEDGEmony
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 5:09PM
Hey dipwad, 102 and 95 aren't even the same person. Your heels are on their way and then you can dress like the bitch you are.
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 5:16PM
If I recall the whole/hole cause of the meltdown is transparency (actually goes much deeper to our posession & dept actualized psyche, but never mind that).
Transparency, wouldn't a debate assist with showing the vox populi their positions?
-C
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 5:17PM
@88
I find Bella rather sexy.
-@10
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 5:20PM
@51 --- excellent point. We taxpayers should not have to eat the deposit on the hall ...
(there is precedent, people who call off weddings last minute often hold the reception)
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 5:21PM
McCain hasn't set foot in Congress to cast a vote in like six months, but he needs to suspend the debate to focus on an issue in which he has no expertise whatsoever?
I call bullshit.
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 5:26PM
@51 --- excellent point. We taxpayers should not have to eat the deposit on the hall ...
(there is precedent, people who call off weddings last minute often hold the reception)
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 5:30PM
HighAndMighty@#108...
Bravado makes you sound like someone who CAN'T answer my 2 questions in #105.
Anybody else, please?
The Guy from Delaware
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 5:39PM
@ 107: I am aware that Congress is in an election year. You know how I know? Because they are CAMPAIGNING...right now, believe it or not.
Not sure what your living in IL has to do with anything. I live in AZ...not sure what that has to do with anything either.
Posted by diablo , Sep 24, 2008 5:43PM
OK, McCain might be too busy on Friday to show up for the debate, trying to learn what the economy is. Last week he thought it was fundamentally sound, now he's confused and needs some time.
Fair, McCain should send Sara Palin in his place. She's supposed to be his backup anyway if they get elected. Grab the opportunity Palin, no time out for you.
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 5:43PM
well according to the McCain campaign he did invent the blackberry. Couldnt he take one with him to the debates to keep up to date with whats going on in DC?
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 5:51PM
@110
Sorry. With your poor writing style I thought you were the same person.
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 6:09PM
McCain canceled his appearance on Letterman tonight ... that monologue will be classic
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 6:15PM
McCain just handed the election to Obama. He has proven that he cannot multi-task.
As we speak, there is a war going on, an economic crisis of epic proportions, still dealing with the aftermath of Hurricane Ike (and Katrina), no resolution on healthcare, etc.
We need a President that can walk and chew gum at the same time, not one who whines to the teacher that he missed class the day economics was taught.
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 6:23PM
HighAndMighty@#108...
"Know your place and go back to your janitorial duties. Don't attempt asking questions that you can't understand."
FYI, it will be the legion of the "can't understand" who probably decide the fate of thousands like you in the very near future.
Be nice to them.
The Guy from Delaware
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 6:32PM
Fight on!
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 6:34PM
Last
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 6:37PM
Coz being a fighter jock really teaches you all you need to know about CDO's
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 6:39PM
I have to say once again, TGFD, STFU! Go take your meds.
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 6:57PM
Re Economic Crisis...
While viewing C-Span a few minutes ago, I watched one stuffed-shirted Robert Horwats, Int'l Vice Chairman, Goldman Sachs & Co pontificating on about something or other in such an incoherent fashion that nearly everyone at the conference was in a f'n coma.
What a fucking douchebag. A captain of finance? With people like him running the place, it's no f'n wonder GS was on the ropes.
Face it clowns. Wall Street has lost its mistique. The more often douches like Horwats appear on TV and in public, the less credibility Wall St retains.
To tell you the truth, I could have run GS into the ground just as efficiently as douchebag Horwats and others did. Only difference is, I wouldn't have charged as much.
The Guy from Delaware
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 7:27PM
47=TGFD
Not that I mind him being around, but he's got a real natty light kind of thing going on. Going to crappy school in fact does, generally, not equal good enough to run superpower. I admit I'm not good enough to run the country; why does everyone have to be the little emperor these days. Know your place people!
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 7:27PM
@29: You fucking retard. It was Obama who reached out to McCain for a bipartisan solution to Wall Street's fuck up. Your talking points are awfully stale.
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 8:01PM
@ 129
EXACTLY
What is the matter with elitism? Why do we aspire to be lead by mediocraty?
Lets face it both democrat and republican candidates are from the elite class. So dispense with the arguement and choose which member of the elite class you want to go with.
But don't pretend that the guy with 8 houses and a wife worth $200 million or the other guy with a harvard law degree and a wife with the same are not memebers of the elite class - they both are!
This country needs to start aspiring to elitism, again!
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 8:36PM
= #47
I agree, you have to be smart to run this country. I'm saying you shouldn't be disqualified JUST based on where you went to school. I'm bothered by the fact that it took her 6 years. I guess my post was "too long to read."
Harry Reid got an associate degree then graduated from Utah State. He's running the senate (when Cheney's not around). Nancy Pelosi went to Trinity University in DC (whatever that is). And some people bump around college and never finish.
The whole rant was more along the lines of us Wall Street people being elitist jerks about where we went to school, when you darn well know half the people in our classes at the Harvards/Whartons/etc.'s were filled with Bushes and not Obamas.
Posted by guest , Sep 24, 2008 9:33PM
Too many greedy Jews on Wall Street
- Anti-semite
Posted by guest , Sep 25, 2008 1:19AM
#38. Could you please supply a link for the Republican Vice Presidential nominee's educational credentials? TIA
(certainly hope it isn't the Democratic Talking Points memo from David Plouffe and Axelrod)
Posted by guest , Sep 25, 2008 1:34AM
For all you sexist males here, particularly the guy criticizing her credentials simply because she won a beauty pageant:
"The Miss America Organization is one of the nation's leading achievement programs and the world's largest provider of scholarship assistance for young women. Last year, the Miss America Organization and its state and local organizations made available more than $45 million in cash and scholarship assistance. This assistance is not just for the handful of young women who become Miss America, but is available to the over 12,000 young women who compete in the state and local competitions as well"
http://www.missamerica.org/scholarships/purpose.aspx
Now, don't all rush to the link even though it has numerous pictures of intelligent beautiful women.
Posted by guest , Sep 25, 2008 1:54AM
Has it occurred to anyone else that McCain might be ill? He canceled a Late Night appearance, read from the Teleprompter, and took no questions. McCain is an older fellow, and this behavior lets him slide into the pack of Congress with an excuse, unlike a 90-minute debate where it would be difficult to pretend that he is hale and hearty.
Posted by guest , Sep 25, 2008 2:58AM
136. That does make sense. Look at the beating the guy is taking on the internet and in the press. And Letterman was just plain vicious.
Posted by guest , Sep 25, 2008 3:19AM
@136 ... have heard people raise that question, however, not sure how long MCC (and Palin, for that matter) can continue to evade the public eye.
MCC better realize that part of being the Commander-in-Chief is juggling multiple priorities that aren't always convenient.
His request to postpone the debate made him look incompetent.
Posted by guest , Sep 25, 2008 7:40AM
53, TGFD and all of you claiming that the elitist attitude is what 'got us here'.
Screw you. This whole thing was started by Lewis Ranieri and his gang. A fat Italian guy, who wanted to be a chef and started in the mailroom. If we'd kept New York to the Ivy League crowd and London to the Sloane Rangers, no-one would have been smart enough to invent anything that could screw things up this much.
Posted by guest , Sep 25, 2008 9:27PM
Let’s be honest people. If you think that wasn’t a political move the box on your electronic voting screen should be disabled. A couple of points:
1.) They both have planes, which last time I checked go fairly fast.
2.) They were almost done w/agreeing to the terms.
3.) The president of the U.S. should be the ultimate multitasker, if you can’t do many things at once…you should redo your job search criteria on monster.com
4.) 9pm Friday night you’re going to be working?
5.) McCain hasn’t voted since April.
6.) McCain acknowledged economics isn’t his ‘thing’, YET somehow in 48 hours he’s going to become the Adam Smith? http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110007600
7.) Obama called HIM at 8 am to talk about a joint statement.
One last thing, people that STILL think the McCain/Palin ticket is better fit to lead the world for the next 4 to 8 years are one, some or all of the following: (a.) idiots (b) racist (c) dim-witted (d) can’t distinguish nose from there asses
Thanks
Posted by guest , Sep 25, 2008 9:29PM
Let’s be honest people. If you think that wasn’t a political move the box on your electronic voting screen should be disabled. A couple of points:
1.) They both have planes, which last time I checked go fairly fast.
2.) They were almost done w/agreeing to the terms.
3.) The president of the U.S. should be the ultimate multitasker, if you can’t do many things at once…you should redo your job search criteria on monster.com
4.) 9pm Friday night you’re going to be working?
5.) McCain hasn’t voted since April.
6.) McCain acknowledged economics isn’t his ‘thing’, YET somehow in 48 hours he’s going to become the Adam Smith? http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110007600
7.) Obama called HIM at 8 am to talk about a joint statement.
One last thing, people that STILL think the McCain/Palin ticket is better fit to lead the world for the next 4 to 8 years are one, some or all of the following: (a.) idiots (b) racist (c) dim-witted (d) can’t distinguish nose from there asses
Thanks
Posted by guest , Sep 25, 2008 9:33PM
=140
I did not hit comment twice. Bess, are you outsourcing your web developers to Wasilla, Alaska again?
Posted by guest , Sep 26, 2008 3:50PM
Boondoggle! They are ripping us off! Check the "simple" math:
http://yourmortgageoryourlife.wordpress.com/2008/09/26/11666666-home-owners-could-be-rescued-from-foreclosure/
it's a crime!
Posted by guest , Sep 26, 2008 3:50PM
Boondoggle! They are ripping us off! Check the "simple" math:
http://yourmortgageoryourlife.wordpress.com/2008/09/26/11666666-home-owners-could-be-rescued-from-foreclosure/
it's a crime!
Posted by weeklyworldnews , Sep 30, 2008 9:27PM
Apparently McCain has a new plan!
to sell out his homeland - Hawaii
Haha :)
http://www.weeklyworldnews.com/mutants/mccain-will-sell-hawaii-to-raise-cash/
Posted by guest , Oct 07, 2008 1:18PM
I was just wondering if anyone knows what happened to Bella the Leh. Bomb Dog?