We all know that Sarah Palin gave the Best Speech Ever last night. But how does she stand on economics and the issues facing Wall Street?
We turned to a Republican party insider for some clues.
“Palin is the most libertarian candidate we’ve had in ages. She’s a deeply committed tax-cutter. She believes tax cuts boost the economy and believes that individuals spend more efficiently than government. Think Steve Forbes in a skirt,” he said.
Our insider, who asked not to be named, also said Palin represents a clean break from the spend-thrift Republican machinery that dominated the party for years. “She genuinely wants smaller government, a government that does less not more,” he said.
What about issues such as mortgages, the Federal Reserve, inflation, Fannie Mae and international trade?
“She’s not up to speed on those but they’re briefing her. She’s got all the right instincts, and isn’t in hock to the housing and banking lobby, which is a refreshing change,” he said. “But we’ll have to stay tuned.”
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Ohhhyeahhhhh! It’s KoolAid time..
Carney, she will quickly be indoctrinated into all the stupidity that has become the modern Republican Party.
She’ll get in line soon enough.
Great legs though…
palin is actually Vince Offer in a skirt but who is steve forbes??
Who is Steve Frobes?
She wanted people to pray for completion of God’s natural gas pipeline through Alaska.
#6 you are a dipshit!
When did this become a politics blog?
She lost my vote when she didn’t strip last night
-I’m Sexist, but in a good way.
She is a madwoman, a political sister to Peggy Hill; citing the article “…[s]he’s not up to speed on those but they’re briefing her” means what? Oh, she’s not aware of the Fannie and Freddie issue, but that’s okay because we need less government. What? have a look around the globe and decide how important regulation is. She would have the US drilling whatever scant oil there is, developing shale and putting nothing into a pension fund because she has no idea what future value is. Don’t even get me started on the prayer…
Has she even been to a University?
Bull**** (as Peggy Noonan said yesterday) on the claim that Palin is a tax-cutting “libertarian”.
Palin raised local sales taxes when she was mayor of Wasilla, to pay for an ice hockey arena that’s still being subsidized by the Alaska state government. And in 2007, Palin slapped a windfall profits tax on oil companies pumping in Alaska (amounting to about $49 on a $120 barrel of oil).
#11 – she gave that money back to alaska, dickhead
I bet Steve Forbes would like to get into her skirt.
watching the rnc is like watching “logan’s run.” palin is no jessica. she’s got a flashing life clock like the rest of them. just check out the way she says “nuclear,” just like bush…
@ 11 – Where’d you find that info?
She’s for smaller government? Are you insane? She believes that its the will of God that Alaska gets pork money to support the pet projects of these profligate politicians. Think Ted Stevens in a skirt. The last thing she is a libertarian. Please, today’s republicans are the antithesis of libertarians.
#10, she has a university degree.
RON PAUL!!!!!
@11
That’s why the Inuit are driving around in ML320s and G500s rather then those coldass Ski-Doos.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=184086&title=sarah-palin-gender-card
Palin’s Teleprompter text showed the word nuclear spelled phonetically: “new-clear”.
Town of Wasilla before Paylin
-Zero Debt, no sewage or water supply
Town of Wasilla after Paylin
-$20 Million Debt, no sewage or water supply
-$15 Million Sports center
She ran a state with the biggest budget surplus due to energy.
Easy to get up to speed when you have a small govt. mindset. You just shitcan everything or punt it back to the states.
Even the Republican Talkingheads think she sucks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq4sOM4tpno
its easy to be a taxcutter when your state is awash with oil royalties and federal subsidies. A better question is why those subsidies, when the Alaska Permanent Fund actually distributes cash to the locals – sort of a negative income tax.
Sarah Palin: Bess Levin without a Penis?
23 Doesn’t really matter that she sucks. As its been pointed out, her role is to win over some lower middle class women in a few swings states. A typical accomplished NY woman that I work with was insulted that SP was put there to get her support, which had been for Hilary. She was particularly rankeled over the Yale vs. U of Idaho comparison. I pointed out that they werent looking for her support since, like that of her sisters in Cambridge, Georgetown, San Francisco, it didn’t matter, since their states were blue already. Funny thing that electoral college.
This is such a waste of time. No one is changing anyone’s mind. Save the politics for another site and let’s stick to inappropriate discussions about the trading floor.
Ron Paul would be better. But Palina is still better than Obama and his hype.
Ron Paul would be better. But Palin is still better than Obama and his hype.
I really hope that there is more coverage of her pork-barrel spending and corruption when she ran Wasilla and drop the whole teen pregnancy crap. She turned a small-town Alaska mayoral race into a forum to bash abortion rights and the like. She is an extremely ambitious woman who knows exactly what she’s doing which is advancing her career. She couldn’t give two shits about the lower-middle class woman or anyone else. As long as she can push her agenda.
And not for nothing, but I’m sorry, I don’t see marrying your high school boyfriend because you got knocked up a necessarily noble thing to do. The conservatives are heralding this as the right family-oriented decision to make. I’d say it’s more stupid than anything. Have the child if that’s what you believe (or are forced into) and try to complete school and get a college education. Let’s face it, if even half of us married our high school boyfriends/girlfriends, the divorce rate would be doubled.
#30 and double the # of welfare recipients too
from CIA factbook for the US:
School life expectancy (primary to tertiary education):
total: 16 years
male: 15 years
female: 16 years (2006)
Babydaddy is not expected to finish college, baby mama is….
#17,
She has a degree in Communications from the University of Idaho….
Does that even count as a real school?
To think this woman could potentially be negotiating with world leaders if McCain were to die….
Hilarious…no wonder this country is the laugh stock of the civilized world.
@30-
My high school girlfriend is a slut.
@21,
Obama hasn’t done any of that.
@34 – Perfect reason why you wouldn’t marry her. Who knows if the kid is even yours?
@15,
The Wasilla sales-tax raise info comes from an Anchorage Daily News article (http://dwb.adn.com/news/alaska/matsu/story/9362341p-9276004c.html) dated 10/7/2007, and the windfall-profits oil tax info comes from a Seattle Times article (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2008103325_alaskatax07.html) dated 8/10/2008.
@11,
The tax money went to the GOVERNMENT, which makes it bigger (not smaller), and therefore takes away the decision on how to spend that money from the people/companies being taxed. How on earth does that make Palin a libertarian?
33 But isn’t it perfect? – to most Americans that’s more real than an ivy degree and the only ones who would think otherwise are the “elites” who are ruining everything anyway.
@26
I am still ready to back any plan you have to separate the sovereignty of the coasts.
No reason for Middle (or moderate) America to force its views on you …. or vice versa.
Whoops, in @37 I meant to respond to @12 (not @11, which was also my comment).
she should have walked up to the podium, undid her hair and removed her blouse to reveal a half open button down shirt
#30
An ambitious person…pushing her agenda…in politics no less. The horror.
Note to self, abandoning the chicas I impregnate isn’t ignoble. I’d say it’s more smart than anything.
dumbass, the windfall tax was rebated back to the people of the great state of Alaska, $1200per person.
#39, careful, we may be working there soon. erin brunette was saying iowa was the only state on a hiring boom these days. have you been noticing a lot of articles in the “nytimes” recently about die-hard ny’ers packing up and moving house to the mid-west(allegedly for more living space)? omnimous.
Palin rocked last night:
“And there is much to like and admire about our opponent.
But listening to him speak, it’s easy to forget that this is a man who has authored two memoirs but not a single major law or reform – not even in the state senate.”
“But when the cloud of rhetoric has passed … when the roar of the crowd fades away … when the stadium lights go out, and those Styrofoam Greek columns are hauled back to some studio lot – what exactly is our opponent’s plan? What does he actually seek to accomplish, after he’s done turning back the waters and healing the planet?”
@42 – You’re twisting my comment. She is absolutely a politician. It’s time she be presented as such and not some everyday, joe-shmoe “hockey mom” and she portends to be.
And no one ever said anything about abandonment. I was speaking about marriage. This is not 1965, these two CHILDREN do not need to promise to be together for the next 50+ years to be honorable. Taking responsibility for their actions, raising their child together equally and working toward an education to ensure said child has a good life is about as honorable and noble as it gets. If they are the real deal, pleeenty of time in the coming years to tie the knot.
So get your head out of your ass.
I heard it was actually Vince Offer who impregnated Palin’s kid.
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The bearded OxyClean Guy
@45- I had no idea they taught copy and paste in Alaska. Congratulations on your skill. Mooseburgers all around.
Who is the IDIOT “INSIDER” they spoke to? How the hell is she LIBERTARIAN??? Fiscally conservative sure, but not socially a libertarian
@48–I won’t bother to make a snarky comeback to your comment. That would be like engaging in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent.
65% of Alaka’s budget is funded by Oil (and another 25% by the Feds). She must have made some really difficult decisions over the last 20 months. I mean, just look at how Putin and Chavez have struggled.
@ blnde – most people telling these two to get married have already been divorced in their own lives (and/or cheated on their spouse). The more the merrier in the miserable club right? These kids don’t have enough problems without adding marriage? And she’s going to marry a dad who is going to be off playing hockey for a minor league club. Good idea make mom and baby lonely and dad miserable….but look at their “values”. Makes one wonder what they actually do value….seems like public perception. Smrt.
I think I have a crush on Dick-less Cheney
@39
Then I guess you should you be for over-turning Roe vs. Wade? I’m pretty sure you should support the South in the the “War of Northern Aggression” (aka the Civil War)? If you don’t want a bible beater representing you, then you should be an advocate of states rights, which historically has been a Republican mantra.
The reason why gay marraige isn’t even close to a hot button issue as abortion, is because states have been dealing with gay marraige. Unlike with abortion (Roe v Wade), it made abortion a federal issue. Now that abortion is a federal govt issue, it’s on a slippery slope, where it’s probably easier to federally ban abortion than it was for Roe v Wade to federally allow it.
@43,
So what you’re saying is that Sarah Palin is pro-welfare? That she wants to encourage welfare queens (and kings)?
Because that’s what it is — taxing corporations that have invested millions in infrastructure and exploration, just so she can give people money for not doing any work.
@49– guessing the insider is the voices in carney’s head.
It is clear that most of the people posting on this board haven’t been west of the Hudson except to fly to LA. There is a big world out there, with some really good state schools, and some great people. Who’d a thunk it, New York being so provincial. New York, Mass and California can stay blue, but that is not enough to win an election.
Palin rocks!
‘Tard @55,
The mineral rights are owned by the State of Alaska. SP didn’t set up that deal, it was handed to her. Given that, she worked a deal that benefited the owners of the oil, the peeps of Alaska.
Alaska is a WELFARE state, sucking at the teat the of federal government. Stevens might be doomed, but Palin is just more of the same. Her suggestions of reform are a joke:
According to the Tax Foundation, Alaska ranked first in federal spending per capita in 18 of the 25 years from 1981 through 2005. In 2005 Alaskans received $1.84 for every dollar they sent to Washington in taxes. Stevens, who was chairman of the Senate Appropriations Committee for a dozen years and until his indictment was the senior Republican on the defense appropriations subcommittee, has played such an important role in this northward redistribution of income that federal spending in Alaska is known as “Stevens money.”
Alaska continues to receive these subsidies from the rest of us even though its government, which collects neither sales nor income tax from state residents, is flush with oil revenue and running budget surpluses. Yet Stevens, who lobbied for statehood in the 1950s, still sees Alaskans, the biggest beneficiaries of congressional largess, as victims of a high-handed federal government.
She lost my vote when she didn’t drop to her knees and suck McLame’s schlong last night
Hey @47 that guys is Billy Mays. I heard he dated Palin in High School.
Honeybuns @58,
You’re wrong — Palin introduced that windfall-profits tax increase (in the Alaska state legislature) her very own self in 2007. That tax increase WASN’T “handed to her”.
57 If the people “out there” are so great and well educated, why do they rely so much on the federal govt to redistribute tax dollars to them from the coasts. Maybe they’re not so great after all. Especially since the more intelligent among them tend to migrate to someplace civilized, where they can make a good living.
“War of Northern Aggression” makes it sounds like it was more about economic interests / competitive advantage than morality.
Surely you are not suggesting.
@FUN – Exactly. I love how the conservative left i.e. Bible thumpers are acting like marriage out of wedlock is noble and like it fixes things! It doesn’t undo what was done. She still had pre-marital sex. At least give the girl the option of how she would like to handle the situation. Maybe she does want to get married and if so, I truly do wish them all the best. But from the looks of her boyfriend’s blog, they were trying to get an abortion so I would say signs suggest they weren’t headed down the altar regarldess.
@63
I agree. The coasts should be allowed to establish their independence and avoid “redistribution”.
Let’s see how well the rest of the country does with the beacons of utopia (NY, LA, SF)
#10, others Re Educational credentials.
She has a partial poly-sci degree (and sorry, I don’t recall the other) from … wait for it —
University of I Da Ho
(yes, I’m serious)
FWIW, I don’t get the sex appeal. Does she not look like Tina Fey and/or Karen Walker (of Will & Grace) in drag??
‘Tard @62,
What was handed to her was a state where the citizens owned virtually all of the mineral rights.
@67,
Bush went to HBS and look how that turned out.
67 I think she looks like Elaine on Seinfeld
69, 67 All true, but you’re missing the point. U Idaho doesn’t matter. What’s important is that she captivates the regular people, especially women. And hopefully enough of them to make a difference in the swing states.
does it really matter about the vp spot??…yea dickcheney is the puppet master, but other than that i doubt she will have any voice…her moosenuckle will be too busy poppin out another kid along with her hot daughters
@63 I agree… if people are against any sort of redistribution of wealth, then they should be ready to review it comprehensively – not only the transfers to the so-called welfare queens and kings, but also the ridiculous farm subsidies/direct payments (yes, Farmer Bob gets a check to put right into the pocket of his overalls) that seem to be legislative sacred cows.
she actually looks like tina fey
a chubby-in-the-face tina fey at that. those glasses are heinous.
id still do her
76 I could play with Levi’s hockey stick any day. GAnalYst
77 lol nice
she’s like a cross between tina fey and stifler’s mom. I’m just not that Inuit.
and throw in the tonys head doc from the sopranos..and you got a perfect combination
@GAanlYst – Really? I’m not so much a fan of the face. The shaggy hair is hot though.
@ ganalyst – just as long as pahlin doesn’t look to the young lad for a good pullout strategy
@GAnalYst – stop it! (a) he’s underage – are you tryting to become an elementary teacher in the midwest? and (b) stop it!
let’s change the topic – how about the awkward hug/handshake/kiss moment:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64nFVc-GEAQ&feature=related
@FUN – HAHAHAHA
@cluz – I thought you were heading for the obvious catholic priest joke, cheers for going redneck instead.
We could talk about potential names for the little Eskimo? Perhaps Juneau puckhappy pahlin?
Sums it up quite nicely
http://www.crosscut.com/politics-government/17341
Cluz: since when is 18 underage?
BB: my boyfriend agrees with you. Doesn’t see what I see.
Cluz: thanks for the vid link. The wind is flapping hockey-boy’s pants in a way that gives some hint of what size stick he’s carrying (his “basket”, in gay-speak) I’m gonna share with BF, which could maybe change his mind. GAnalYst
An emerging issue that will plague obama is his diffulty with the concept of ‘moral equivalency’.
obama sees a moral equivalency between the positions of radical islam and the West, between the Isralies and the palistinians, between the Russians and the Georgians, between the terrorists and the victims, between the economy and the environment, between Rev? Wright and Rev. Pat Robertson, and on and on.
This issue alone will make for a confused and indecisive obama presidency. He will think too much and be paralized by too much indecision.
Last night Mayor Gullianni pointed out that obama (after consulting with his 300 national security advisors)said, “the situation between Russia and Georgia should be referred to the UN Security Council and that an obama administration would stay out of it.” Guilliani added that neither obama nor the 300 advisors seem to be aware that “Russia has veto power in the UN Security Council”.
“Moral Equivalency” will eventually unravel the obama campaign. This guy obama cannot make a decision. Right vs, Wrong is always a moral issue, and someone who has a problem distinguishing between the two should never be president.
obama’s other drawbacks…inexperience, empty-suitedness, islamic sympathies, socalist tendencies, and being black all place behind his ‘moral equivalency’.
For me, obama’s ‘moral equivalency’ is his biggest disqualifier.
Talk about Palin’s “inexperience” and the possibility of a Palin presidency in the event of a McCain absence?
With obama, we’ll have an inexperienced, naive, empty suit who can’t make a decision in the Oval Office on the very first day.
I would much rather have Sarah Palin in the Oval Office every day than have barrak hussein obama in there for even one day.
The Guy from Delaware
AKA “The Voice of Reason”
For the last few years Mayor Ed Koch has had a program on Bloomberg radio on friday evenings from 6-7, entitled “The Voice of Reason”. So knock it off TGFD
@88. By jove I think he’s got it.
@88 – Is there a reason you capitalize McCain and Palin but use lowercase for Obama? Subconscious malintent or purposeful undercut?
some stats for all: 99% of Americans can’t point out where Georgia is located on a map. here’s another: 99% of Americans can’t name 2 countries within the caucasus region.
90 Actually, his credibility totally disappeared when he counted among O’s drawbacks: “being black” and his “islamic sympathies”. We clearly have a total crank here. Plus, why is he so sure Palin knows that Russia is a SC member.
blndebnker – Judging personal decisions of people you do not actually know is stupid and a waste of time.
blndebnkr@#91…
“Purposful undercut” it is.
@#89…
Someone on DB yesterday was looking for a “voice of reason”, so I volunteered using that “AKA”. Was unaware of Mayor Koch’s show; I’ll “knock it off”. Thanks for letting me know.
The Guy from Delaware
@94 – I wasn’t judging, I was asking. And as you can see, TGFD answered my question. You should reread your own advice.
blndebnker – “I don’t see marrying your high school boyfriend because you got knocked up a necessarily noble thing to do. The conservatives are heralding this as the right family-oriented decision to make. I’d say it’s more stupid than anything. Have the child if that’s what you believe (or are forced into) and try to complete school and get a college education.”
Explain to me how calling her decision to get married “stupid” is not judging. I am confused.
@97 – That is my opinion. I am not judging the Palin’s for it. I’m saying I don’t agree and I think it is a stupid decision, one that I would not repeat. However there is a very big difference between disagreeing with one’s choices and judging them for it.
@ 98 – This is just iditotic now. Don’t use words you don’t know the meaning of:
judg·ment
Function:
noun
Date:
13th century
1 a: a formal utterance of an authoritative opinion b: an opinion so pronounced2 a: a formal decision given by a court b (1): an obligation (as a debt) created by the decree of a court (2): a certificate evidencing such a decree3 acapitalized : the final judging of humankind by God b: a divine sentence or decision; specifically : a calamity held to be sent by God4 a: the process of forming an opinion or evaluation by discerning and comparing b: an opinion or estimate so formed5 a: the capacity for judging : discernment b: the exercise of this capacity6: a proposition stating something believed or asserted
@DS – Not Judgement but rather FACT!
# 88:
“No one is suffering more than the Palestinians.”
–Barack Obama
Only, say, Ahmadinejad would say that, and even then not sincerely. The moral outlook that Obama’s statement reveals should have torpedoed his candidacy, but instead it’s a minor factoid.
You’d also think he’d have been eliminated after insulting about half the country, or even trying to relate to Joe Average by citing the price of arugula at Whole Foods, but at this point someone could find a dead hooker in Obama’s trunk and it would mean one day of bad press.
BugsMeany@#101…
The campaign is just starting to heat up now that the conventions are over. Watch and see what happens.
Biden’s appeal to “Joe Average” will fail once he starts to sound off on national prime-time TV.
obama is in trouble. The pass he gets from the press/media will last only so long.
The actual voting citizens will be heard on Election Day. obama will then go the way of McGovern, Mondale, Dukakis, Gore, and Kerry. You’ll see.
The Guy from Delaware
AKA @#80
Pardon me. I meant AKA @#88 in my previous post #102.
The Guy from delaware
@99 – Indeed this is idiotic. Yes, a judgment can be an opinion. But you and I both know that was not the context I was using it in. While I disagree with the choice, I do not judge the Palins for it. I don’t think they are stupid, bad, etc. I just think that the DECISION they are making is not wise. You are clearly just in this for the sake of argument since you have absolutely not response to the merit of my statement but rather to pick it apart on grounds of word usage. Let me know when you form a real opinion, your highness.
@104 It’s funny that you’re mad now. I would’ve been impressed if you stuck by what you said in the first place instead of trying to defend it by saying that blatantly calling someone’s decision stupid is not a judgment. Note: If someone calls you or something you do stupid they are judging you. Keep this in mind for the future…
This is a blast:
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-earmarks3-2008sep03,0,2482434.story
WASILLA, ALASKA — For much of his long career in Washington, John McCain has been throwing darts at the special spending system known as earmarking, through which powerful members of Congress can deliver federal cash for pet projects back home with little or no public scrutiny. He’s even gone so far as to publish “pork lists” detailing these financial favors.
Three times in recent years, McCain’s catalogs of “objectionable” spending have included earmarks for this small Alaska town, requested by its mayor at the time — Sarah Palin.
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So this makes McCain a hypocrite for embracing her now, and Palin a fake reformer. In fact, neither is a reformer.
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Finally, are Carney’s brothers taking over this site?
Palin sounds like Marge Gunderson.
Palin is Dan Quayle in a dress. And they are “Snow Machines”, not ski-doos. Sheesh.
Palin does have the northern-states-doofus-combined-with-newscaster-nasality voice which made for an utterly painful listen last night.
108 is a dufus.
Palin rocks!
Actually, I believe they are “Snow Mobiles” (that’s been bugging me too, but not as much as the whole Palin train-wreck which is like Jerry Springer on crack)
they are “snow machines” in alaska, “ski-doo’s” in large parts of canada and some small pockets in the US, and snowmobiles in most of the US.
110 Certainly no fan here, but not so sure its a train wreck. Most people are not that smart and actually connect well with people like her. Do you think most americans are reading policy papers to make up their minds? No, its who they’d like to have a cup of coffee or a beer with.
Palin and her daughter both got pregnant at the same orgy. I’m sure there was coffee and beer present at the time.
Palin has McCains fresh mayo on her chin… we’ll see Lewinski in teh White house next…actually thinking about it, maybe thats a was to find Obama bin Laden.
Suggest to hold peace talks with him, offering him a sneaky BJ if he turns up, which after 2 yrs in the Afgan mountains he’ll be desperate for (his cave is probably full of self pulled mayo) and when he walks through the door.. click, BOOM! (7.62mm between the eyes).
113 Probably not, but seriously: I’m wondering what hockey boy is gonna be doing to support the three of them. The choices for someone without an education are typically pretty slim. Maybe a job at the local supermarket for a little more than minimum wage and certainly no paid healthcare included. Maybe Alaska’s different – is it possible there for a man to work with his hands and back and support three people? Could be why everyone is so blase about the practical aspects of the baby thing. Dunno.
Hockey mom here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBngSlu0llk
Warning: wear headphones.
@115 Ever hear of a little thing called an oil rig? Workers on said rigs with a grade 8 education easily make 100K working 6 months per year(enough to buy enough Mikes Hard to support a family in Alaska). My guess is that Baby Daddy will be putting on the ol’ insulated coveralls and heading out to “Da patch” after the ground freezes.
The real issue here is when do we get someone in the government that will allow the FREE MARKETS TO WORK. We have got to get out of the bailout/handout mode in this country.
http://www.stockshotz.blogspot.com
72: Duh, the reason people are concerned is that McCain is the oldest person to run, and she is next in line. People are pretty sure she can’t handle being President. I agree.
88: Well, the opposite of ‘moral equivalency’ is ‘moral superiority’. Consider that, as much as I love my country (USA), and as much as I hate those who hate us, I also think that constantly touting our moral superiority tends to make people angry at us. Especially when we make mistakes and don’t own up to them, or worse, try to cover them up.
Alaska population: 672,000
Cretins, idiots, yahoos, rednecks, evangelical christians, radical muslims, imbeciles, politicians:336,001
There you go!
120 = black, loser, hates whites 100%