Deutsche Bank is holding a conference call right now called on the "Implications of the GSE Rescue Plan." They've mentioned that "Dr. Greenspan" will be speaking 5 times. While I'm on hold, let's guess what he's going to say, and whether or not he's calling from the tub, as is his wont.
10:36: "This is an off the record call." Awk. What's the worst they can do to me? (Nervous laughter.)
10:40: "De facto nationalization...But not full nationalization-- the effect of Secretary Paulson's plan is essentially to create an almost but not quite full faith in credit situation."
10:42: Tranquilizer gun time:
"The case is critical because the financial crisis globally is best described as single issue in the price of homes in the U.S."
"Equity in those homes serve as the ultimate collateral."
"So long as price of homes is ambiguous, clarity is difficult to gain in this type of market."
10:47: "Inability to close very critical LIBOR to overnight index swaps spreads is indication that there is a frozen structure in here which can only be resolved by subbing sovereign credit for private credit."
10:50 Get excited: "Something like this is going to occur ever 50 to 100 years."
10:52 "Capital is not the issue!" "Nor is the chinaman!"
Questions and Answers:
Q: Are we at the bottom or close to the bottom?
A: I love that question. I wish somebody had the answer to that.
At this point someone has attached a mic to his his receiver and placed it next to the keyboard and is BANGING THE FUCK out of the keys. Greenspan screams at whoever is doing this and for a second I get scared it's me. It's not but wow.
Q: Didn't hear it. Am working from my apt. today and calling into this thing from my Blackberry, which is getting really hot. Had to put it down for a second. Caught the answer though, which sounds dark:
A: If we leave these wounds open, THEY WILL ERUPT AGAIN.
Q: What's your vision for Freddie and Fannie in the long run?
A. They should be nationalized (effectively what has been done). After the crisis, split them up into a number of different types of institutions and sell them off into the market.
Q. You're feeling better?
A. No. I'm feeling a little less worse.
Q: Given that agency spreads have tightened approximately 40 basis points, could you comment on foreign central bank's appetites to buy GSE debt at these levels?
A: The best way to find out would be to ask them. [He goes on, but as his official editor for today, I unliterally decide to end it there, sparing you the sensation of having your will to live sucked out, and making him sound bitchy and dismissive, which is preferable to obtuse, is it not?]






Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 10:42AM
"the right thing to do under the circumstances."
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 10:43AM
"Warren gets Becky Quick. I'll only take questions from Bess Levin."
Posted by blndebnker , Sep 08, 2008 10:43AM
Greenspan in the tub - That is a vivid image.
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 10:44AM
is it me or his he the spitting image of woody allen?
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 10:45AM
holy smokes with a screenname like "blndebanker" how do you get anything done, what with all the IM'ing you must be doing?
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 10:47AM
Deutsche Bank AG. AKA DBag. Nuff said.
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 10:47AM
Too long, didn't read.
-Weary Willie
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 10:49AM
Greenspan is going to get on the line and just try to sell his book. He's become the Al Gore of the Fed. Apparently Gore invented the internet, and Greenspan invented the bull market.
-HEDGEmony
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 10:50AM
He'll have to find a way to squeeze in the fact that he was sounding the alarm on this 4 years ago.
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 10:51AM
moved from the tub to the 'throne' for this one.
Posted by blndebnker , Sep 08, 2008 10:57AM
@5 - Actually the comments have quieted down since I've been on the site for a while. That's not my work handle obviously.
Posted by AJ , Sep 08, 2008 11:01AM
Bess, ask him why Lehman's off 15% while everyone else soars. Poor Dickie Fuld
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 11:01AM
Bess, clone yourself and send me a copy.
Posted by AJ , Sep 08, 2008 11:06AM
Also, has London reopened yet?
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 11:06AM
Has a photo of her been found? I'm not dropping 20 a cocktail at Milk & Honey on her if she's a horseface.
-HEDGEmony
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 11:08AM
@HEDGE-- dude. you have devoted way too many comments to this. email her, ply her with sweet hf tips, and i'm sure you'll be able to find out for yourself.
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 11:09AM
#12 - spot on. What's up with LEH? None of the news outlets has any news as of 11:08am, but it has been sinking as if it has concrete shoes the last 25 minutes or so.
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 11:10AM
Why would anyone want to step foot in Milk and Honey?
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 11:11AM
#18 - For the mayo.
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 11:12AM
Hey Bess, ask about UAL too, it's down 99%.
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 11:17AM
obessurock.
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 11:19AM
stress testing DB. this is a 6 sig event in the DB newsroom/bedroom/porch/whatever.
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 11:23AM
today has a very surreal, "calm before the storm" feel to it.
Is it just me?
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 11:23AM
Bess, I need a hug.
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 11:24AM
Bess, I need a hug.
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 11:26AM
@ 14 4pm local.
The world can turn on its axis again. All will be well. LSE's computers are plugged in again.
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 11:28AM
whoever plugged in the LSE servers unplugged the chicago tribune one, leaving its news feed unupdated at 2002.
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 11:29AM
I like M&H because it is all seating, no god damn B&T standing around walking and crowding everyone inside and outside the establishment. Its also decent about membership to keep out the hoi polloi.
-HEDGEmony
Posted by AJ , Sep 08, 2008 11:30AM
Bess, you continue to be amazing
UAL story is ridiculous
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 11:31AM
Hey Vince Offer is a doctor.
Posted by blndebnker , Sep 08, 2008 11:35AM
People still say hoi polloi?
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 11:36AM
@HEDGEmony-- um, genius, anyone with the number can call and make a reservation.
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 11:40AM
use the speaker on your blackberry.
all that heat is radiation baking your brain cells.
and you can't afford to lose any more.
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 11:42AM
Dude, Chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature. Its Asian-American.
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 11:44AM
#6 - Bear, LEH, Citi, B of A, Merrill...not a lot of big banks left that can throw stones at Deutsche.
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 11:44AM
LEH CLOSED DEAL ON SELLING NEUBERGER
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 11:45AM
-HEDGEmony
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 11:48AM
#35 > #6
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 11:49AM
Accept or it will happen
Posted by Bess Levin , Sep 08, 2008 11:49AM
Oh, snap cum stain* @33. I wish I could come up with a response to that but as you have pointed out, I am not smart. And that would make you, a reader and commenter of my site what, exactly? At the very least a good samaritan, taking the time to contribute pageviews despite my special needs.
*Not a diss!
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 11:49AM
@34
go away, pussy.
Posted by FUNdamental , Sep 08, 2008 11:50AM
blnde - apparently people that want their bars to have memberships still use it.
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 11:51AM
bess, wow, turn the blackberry OFF.
you poor dear, you're stressed.
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 11:52AM
Bess is in the house. That's all that matters.
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 11:52AM
@35: ditto.
Posted by bank_teller , Sep 08, 2008 11:53AM
@34 -- get it right, it's "oriental american"
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 11:53AM
@41, have you ever seen The Big Lebowski?
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 11:54AM
@ 47 obviously not
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 11:55AM
Bess, I am #33 and I want to say I'm a big fan of yours.
Thanks for the reply.
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 11:58AM
congrats to all the short covers and buyers this morning.
you've just failed part 3 of the DB Mensa Test.
bess is the queen of NJ proper.
-retail
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 12:00PM
Dude, dude, dude...Chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature...Asian American...
Walter we're not talking about the fucking guy that built the railroads!
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 12:02PM
@49/33- then why did you imply she was dumb?
Posted by girl , Sep 08, 2008 12:05PM
I dare say old girl @ 40, I admire your thought leadership on cum stains.
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 12:08PM
Donny you're out of your element! Dude, the Chinaman is not the issue here!
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 12:09PM
@52 - it was a joke.
Bess dishes it out, she can take it.
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 12:09PM
53, how vulgar and tacky.
any word on Lehman Bros?
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 12:09PM
53, how vulgar and tacky.
any word on Lehman Bros?
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 12:10PM
Seriously any market intel on LEH?
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 12:11PM
I prefer Chink to Chinaman.
But the issue here is the cum stain that Bess is struggling with!
Posted by AJ , Sep 08, 2008 12:14PM
Closing in on Neuberger....
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 12:17PM
Brilliant.
Really enjoyed reading this.
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 12:17PM
@60 - will that be the latest special at the Shake Shack? They can call it the Neuburger if they don't want to get sued...
Posted by Anal_yst , Sep 08, 2008 12:22PM
I love this insightful commentary from former Leh CFO:
"Additionally, Bernstein analyst Brad Hintz said in a research note LEH
could spin-off Neuberger Berman, write-down debt and have a capital raise, to
help it survive"
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 12:23PM
I'm disappointed by Bess' oh-so-casual use of the derogatory term "chinaman." You would never throw around the N word would you? So why chose hate just for some cheap laugh?
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 12:24PM
64 = girl
Posted by ratul , Sep 08, 2008 12:26PM
can someone tell me how to turn on the speaker phone on a blackberry curve? This shit is way hot.
Posted by KevinB , Sep 08, 2008 12:27PM
Bess -
The expression is as "as is his wont", not "want".
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 12:28PM
get a bold you broke fuck
-HEDGEmony
Posted by girl , Sep 08, 2008 12:34PM
@ 65
a) I only ever post under my handle. So fuck off.
and b) i'm not surprised that any of you lack a sense of humour, but given my outward love/adoration of Bess, you should have deduced either way that I think thought leadership on cum stains is something every girl (or guy) should aspire to.
Thanks.
Posted by FUNdamental , Sep 08, 2008 12:35PM
3000 years of beautiful tradition from Moses to sandy Koufax
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 12:36PM
HEDGEmony, are you one of those Blackberry wielding douches that walks around talking extra loud so people have to look at your dumbass, all so you can show off how much you spent and to see how important you think you are?
-Blackberry pearl
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 12:39PM
Lehman Brothers needs to merge with Charlie Gasparino's cum-stained wifebeater in order to survive.
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 12:40PM
69, only an oriental would right ...."I onry ever"
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 12:43PM
What's wrong with Chinaman?
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 12:44PM
Walk? What is a black car for then?
-HEDGEmony
Posted by Bess Levin , Sep 08, 2008 12:45PM
@64-- No, I wouldn't use the 'N' word. Also, buy a vowel: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118715/quotes
Posted by Bess Levin , Sep 08, 2008 12:50PM
@HEDGEmony-- I don't need the bold. I'm perfectly happy with the 8830 now that I've figured out how to use the speakerphone. Why are you so angry?
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 12:51PM
These men are nihilist, Donny. They're cowards.
Posted by blndebnker , Sep 08, 2008 12:51PM
@FUN - Seriously. What a toolbox and a half. Only REAL cool people go to M&H!
Posted by Suits , Sep 08, 2008 12:53PM
Dude, Chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature.
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 12:53PM
Question to all the geniuses here:
What's going to happen to all the regional banks who are holding onto FNM/FRE preferred shares as part of their capital base? The shares of those two companies are approaching shamwow value now.
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 12:54PM
Shut the fuck up, Donny! V.I. Lenin. Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov!
Posted by blndebnker , Sep 08, 2008 12:55PM
@78 - Bravo Lewbowski. BRAVO.
Posted by TheUpwardlyMob , Sep 08, 2008 12:56PM
Bess, he's mad because the combination of his phat moniker and the promise of Milk & Honey hasn't been enough to convince you to post any racy pics. He's got monomania.
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 12:57PM
Bess: So N work is a no-no but chinaman is a-ok. I see you are a student of racial eugenic hierarchy. The Chosen People indeed.
And funny how fast you got all defensive. A smart woman like you should have the confidence to admit and learn from her mistakes. A bit self reflection here and there is good for your soul.
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 12:58PM
@85-- you are a moron. click the fucking link and then slink back here to make another 'what i really meant was comment."
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 12:59PM
Thomas Korossy at KBC is out of a job before the court judges
Posted by blndebnker , Sep 08, 2008 1:00PM
@85 - Dude seriously lighten up. Can you please explain how Chinaman is offensive when used in that context? And also, the n-word has ALWAYS been derogatory whereas to my knowledge, Chinaman became offensive in the PC era. Everyone is so freaking sensitive. How are you still in finance is that is enough to ruffle your feathers??
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 1:02PM
Chinaman Chinaman Chinaman Chinaman Chinaman
What?
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 1:05PM
Dear Mr. Anti-Chinaman,
Why don't you address your comments to Greenspan: it appears that the original mention of the word was his product (the whole phrase is in quotes - a give-away of citation in English?)
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 1:06PM
@85- click the goddamn link. it's from a movie (and before you start shouting about a movie further spreading 'hate,' the movie goes on to point out that 'chinaman' is not the preferred nomenclature).
"What the fuck are you talking about? The chinaman is not the issue here, Dude. I'm talking about drawing a line in the sand, Dude. Across this line, you DO NOT... Also, Dude, chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature. Asian-American, please."
Posted by blndebnker , Sep 08, 2008 1:08PM
That is such a great movie.
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 1:10PM
like everything else in the hands of wall street youth, this thread started with so much promise and drove itself headlong into the tank.
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 1:11PM
@ 91. That was then. It IS the preferred nomenclature, now.
Posted by FUNdamental , Sep 08, 2008 1:19PM
Fuck sympathy! I don't need your fucking sympathy. I need my fucking Johnson!
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 1:19PM
94 posts and not a single reference to s_ _ _ - w _ _?
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 1:21PM
oh, here we go. monopsychological or whatever; like that scene in Boiler Room where those bozos were parrotting the lines from "Wall Street."
bad-feedback-loop alert.
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 1:22PM
Bess is apparently *not* ready for prime time.
Such talent, too...
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 1:24PM
chinaman
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 1:24PM
chinaman
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 1:25PM
chinaman
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 1:25PM
china, man.
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 1:26PM
CHinaman?
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 1:26PM
CHinaman?
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 1:26PM
CHinaman?
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 1:27PM
what's the accepted nomenclature for asking, "is there a chinaman in the house?"
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 1:28PM
@ 90: do you think he *really* said that?
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 1:29PM
Bess, please don't let no "chinaman" tell you what you are and are not ready for.
I am so ready for you baby.
Posted by Suits , Sep 08, 2008 1:30PM
95 - What do you need your johnson for, Dude?
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 1:30PM
@107
Yes, I do. Bess wrote so.
90
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 1:35PM
@98- you can't say cum stain on prime time, though i'm sure charlie gasparino wishes it were so.
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 1:36PM
If Bess wrote, "sham-wow," would you believe her?
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 1:37PM
@112
ha ha a good one
90
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 1:45PM
Bess/Girl: if you licked it off, it never would have stained in the first place.
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 1:50PM
see that, Bess? You play with fire, you get burned. You lie down with dogs, etc....
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 1:55PM
@115-- what are you talking about?
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 2:09PM
blackberry real cheap from a chinman on mott. hurry get good deal.
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 2:14PM
@116
If you live by the sword you die by the sword.
SPODE
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 2:37PM
Bess,
U looky for good time?
Dirty Sexy Money
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 3:03PM
should be Chinaperson. using man is sexist.
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 3:49PM
The use of the word "dude" on this message thread is more offnsive than chinaman.
-Bendo
Posted by guest , Sep 08, 2008 4:24PM
wuttabout "chinadude?"