So, we don't have a clue what's going on with Morgan Stanley or why but it's down about 35 percent. Any ideas? Let us know.*
Update: Loudest rumor is that the Japan deal won't go through.
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Posted by guest , Oct 07, 2008 1:51PM
Short sale ends tomorrow. People probably vacating for fear of greater plunge. Just one guess.
Posted by guest , Oct 07, 2008 1:51PM
CNBC says there is a lot of chatter on the trading floor about MS.
Posted by guest , Oct 07, 2008 1:52PM
rumor mistu is pulling out.
Posted by guest , Oct 07, 2008 1:53PM
rumor has it mitsubishi is pulling out
Posted by guest , Oct 07, 2008 1:53PM
Cause The Bald won't be happy until GS has no competition left whatsoever?
Posted by whatelseisgoingon , Oct 07, 2008 1:53PM
I ALWAYS pull out...
Posted by guest , Oct 07, 2008 1:53PM
mitsu out?
Posted by guest , Oct 07, 2008 1:53PM
Can anyone say lawn dart?
Posted by guest , Oct 07, 2008 1:55PM
privatize by chinese pls
Posted by guest , Oct 07, 2008 1:55PM
privatize by chinese pls
Posted by guest , Oct 07, 2008 1:55PM
Rumors swirling that Mitsubishi may pull their investement...
Posted by guest , Oct 07, 2008 1:56PM
Speaking of lawn darts, has anyone ever played hippie horseshoes?
Posted by guest , Oct 07, 2008 1:58PM
rumor mistu is pulling out.
Posted by guest , Oct 07, 2008 1:58PM
Thats a lot of plunge on anticipation of shorts.... I don't buy it.
Who are the large institutional holders left out there?
Didn't the Mitsu. deal just get approved today?
Posted by guest , Oct 07, 2008 1:58PM
Mitsu won't pull
Posted by guest , Oct 07, 2008 1:59PM
Amazing trade opp here
Posted by guest , Oct 07, 2008 2:00PM
Rumors swirling that Mitsubishi may pull their investement...
Posted by guest , Oct 07, 2008 2:01PM
Many shareholders just realized they owned Morgan Stanley and not JP Morgan. As a result, they are selling.
Posted by diablo , Oct 07, 2008 2:01PM
Oh, oh. No LCD flat panel HDTV to open an account?
Posted by guest , Oct 07, 2008 2:02PM
@18 LOL
Posted by guest , Oct 07, 2008 2:02PM
heard that mitsu might pull out
Posted by guest , Oct 07, 2008 2:03PM
JPM asked for 10 billion in brown paper bag
Posted by guest , Oct 07, 2008 2:06PM
Regretfully they tell us Cuckoo, cuckoo
But firmly they compel us Cuckoo, cuckoo
To say goodbye . . .
Cuckoo!
. . . to you
Clock is ticking and the hound of the Baskervilles will hunt again.
SPODE
Posted by RAW DOG , Oct 07, 2008 2:06PM
Many hedge funds use MS as their primary clearer. Instead of fleeing MS for a better bank to do the job, hedge funds do what they do best: HEDGE. That is to say, they short the heck out of MS stock. So in case it becomes another Bear, HFs' frozen funds will pale in comparison to the massive profits they will collect upon MS's collapse.
Posted by guest , Oct 07, 2008 2:06PM
i heard mitsubishi might pull out
Posted by guest , Oct 07, 2008 2:08PM
i heard mtu might pull out
Posted by guest , Oct 07, 2008 2:09PM
i heard mtu might pull out
Posted by guest , Oct 07, 2008 2:09PM
@24
That's just stupid, even if there weren't a short-selling ban in effect.
Posted by guest , Oct 07, 2008 2:09PM
Mitsu is pulling out...
They don't have a rubber on.
Posted by guest , Oct 07, 2008 2:09PM
This cartoon about sums up the expertise shown by the FED of late... http://blogs.indystar.com/varvelblog/10072008.jpg
Posted by guest , Oct 07, 2008 2:10PM
yup. mitsui pulling out.
but can they actually do so? didn't they sign the agreement?
@24
If they use MS as prime brokerage and they short MS and it goes bankrupt, how the fuck are they going to get their funds out
Posted by guest , Oct 07, 2008 2:10PM
Investors suddenly realize "Company History" story on website ends in 2007. Bad Omen.
Posted by guest , Oct 07, 2008 2:11PM
don't think the japs are pulling out: http://www.mufg.jp/data/current/pressrelease-20081007-001-e.pdf
Posted by guest , Oct 07, 2008 2:12PM
$50 says Mitsu lets it fly - MS is on the pill
Posted by guest , Oct 07, 2008 2:12PM
do ms employees (if it survives) get mitusbishi evos?
Posted by FUNdamental , Oct 07, 2008 2:13PM
Up Morgan just doesn't want to put on the corporate challenge anymore and they thought this would be the easiest way to unwind it.
Posted by guest , Oct 07, 2008 2:13PM
anybody have any idea what first year bonuses at MS will be? what about VPs?
Posted by guest , Oct 07, 2008 2:15PM
MS isn't going to become another Bear. They're regulated by the Fed now, as a bank holding company. They're not going anywhere.
Posted by guest , Oct 07, 2008 2:16PM
Bonuses. Are you kidding?
Posted by guest , Oct 07, 2008 2:17PM
per CNBC MS says Mitsu deal to go through still, be completed by/over the weekend
Posted by guest , Oct 07, 2008 2:18PM
@39....ahahahahaah!
Posted by guest , Oct 07, 2008 2:20PM
aynone heard about ubs letting first years go?
Posted by diablo , Oct 07, 2008 2:20PM
The Fed approved the deal yesterday, why would it be falling apart today?
Posted by guest , Oct 07, 2008 2:21PM
@37- i hear mid tier bonuses around 65k
Posted by guest , Oct 07, 2008 2:21PM
don't think you have to pull out when ass fucking.
just saying.
Posted by guest , Oct 07, 2008 2:27PM
@ 43 didn't the fed approve the the C/WB deal and it fell apart.
Posted by guest , Oct 07, 2008 2:29PM
@1 :
doesn't the short sale ban end oct 17th? it was extended i believe....therefore i dont think that would have such a dramatic effect so far out in the upcoming weeks
Posted by guest , Oct 07, 2008 2:30PM
@1- no, the short sale ban ends tomorrow night. it was going to be the 17th, but they changed it after the bailout passed.
Posted by guest , Oct 07, 2008 2:42PM
hai guyz
heard mitsubishi might be dropping out!!!11one
anyone else here this?
kthanksbi
Posted by guest , Oct 07, 2008 2:53PM
@31... lots of hedge funds use more than one PB.
Posted by guest , Oct 07, 2008 3:21PM
the short sale ban ends tomorrow night - i.e for trading Thursday
Posted by guest , Oct 07, 2008 3:52PM
I heard that there has been some trouble in the financial services industry. That may explain why MS stock is down!
Posted by guest , Oct 07, 2008 4:13PM
Many guys in my high school pulled out. No big deal.