• 26 Oct 2008 at 7:30 PM

Sunday Night Hair Splitting

Reuters has updated yesterday‘s story on Citadel. The new iteration includes the following paragraph, which seems to downplay counterparty discussions (by noting that KG isn’t alone in his trubs):

The Fed has been speaking with dozens of prominent hedge funds and their counterparties in the past weeks to monitor trading and liquidity issues as the financial crisis deepened, industry sources have said.

Apparently, such discussions are a regular feature of the Fed’s monitoring practices, especially over the last several months.
CORRECTED – UPDATE 2-Fed questions counterparties about Citadel [Reuters]

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Comments (34)

  1. Posted by guest | October 26, 2008 at 7:51 PM

    too Sunday didn’t read
    First bitches

  2. Posted by guest | October 26, 2008 at 8:18 PM

    How is calling your post position satisfying? It only provides support for my thesis that people are generally unable to lead or care for themselves.

  3. Posted by StupidEquityGuy | October 26, 2008 at 8:25 PM

    Goldman Sachs Group Inc. (GS) Chief Executive Lloyd Blankfein called his Citgroup Inc. (C) counterpart Vikram Pandit in September to discuss a merger, the Financial Times reported, citing several unnamed people familiar with the events.
    Pandit rejected the proposal immediately, the newspaper reported late Sunday on its Web site, citing the sources.
    The call, suggested by regulatory authorities or at least with their blessing, was placed after Goldman won approval to convert itself from a securities firm into a commercial bank, the newspaper said, citing the sources.
    Citi would have taken over Goldman, which was roughly double Goldman’s market capitalization at the time, the newspaper said.
    Representatives from Goldman, Citi and regulators declined to comment, the newspaper said.
    Full story: http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/15d9f6ac-a39f-11dd-942c-000077b07658.html

  4. Posted by guest | October 26, 2008 at 8:25 PM

    I agree with #2. What the hell is wrong with you people?
    =IF(AND(A7=”Shamwow!”,A15=”Too ” ”, didn’t ” ”.”),”#8 Eats #11′s ass”,”#20 eats ”Chicken is in the oven. Cook it!” guys ass”)
    SPODE

  5. Posted by guest | October 26, 2008 at 8:32 PM

    @2 Thesis too long, didn’t read.

  6. Posted by guest | October 26, 2008 at 8:39 PM

    Since when did the fed check the counterparty books on hedge funds? Is this all just hot wind from the inevitable central clearing strategies for derivates? As Citadel is proposing along with the CME?

  7. Posted by guest | October 26, 2008 at 8:46 PM

    yea

  8. Posted by guest | October 26, 2008 at 9:28 PM

    The Fort is toast.
    tick tock..
    izzo

  9. Posted by guest | October 26, 2008 at 9:28 PM

    6
    I think the Fed got indegestion over what happened with Lehman and what almost happened at AIG. I know I did.

  10. Posted by guest | October 26, 2008 at 9:54 PM

    stick a fork in them.

  11. Posted by guest | October 27, 2008 at 12:00 AM

    Is this for real?
    Wall Street workers leaving NYC for fresh start
    http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5ic67IqYWJBedfJLj1EL_FJea_23gD942BDOO2

  12. Posted by guest | October 27, 2008 at 12:13 AM

    New York Blows. It’s dirty, smelly, and just not worth all the hassle.

  13. Posted by guest | October 27, 2008 at 12:20 AM

    This will probably go on for the next 2 years. The cash cow got killed.

  14. Posted by guest | October 27, 2008 at 12:27 AM

    Its all Enron’s Fault

  15. Posted by guest | October 27, 2008 at 12:34 AM

    Sorry #20 –future poster- but you never had a chance after DB threw you under the bus by changing #7 from “Shamwow!” to “yea”. Who knows if #15 would have posted “Too ___, didn’t ___” Yes the odds were stacked against you but at least you knew the risk and you could have decided for yourself to participate in this market. But instead the filthy hand of DB socialism cut you off at the knees forcing you to be a market taker. Oh, the humanity #2 how can people lead or care for themselves when they aren’t given the chance to be a market maker? How dare you question those who wish to express their voice of individualism as “first’ or even “second”. #1 is living the American dream! And my thesis is 5>8, now ain’t that a bitch. Neptune’s ocean can’t wash away your deed DB. Et tu, DB? -Ayn Ryand. Free markets must prevail and DB can’t regulate who eats whose ass. Join me fellow DB’rs and I will complete your training and together we can rule the blogs as SPODE.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6sj89xgnl4
    I’m high again bitches on Redbull and Ritalin.
    YEA MOTHERFUCKERS!
    Too high, didn’t read.
    SPODE

  16. Posted by guest | October 27, 2008 at 12:38 AM

    11, of course it’s for real.
    How long would you last in NYC if your job went poof? The city is a financial vampire and most of these people are bordering on broke.

  17. Posted by guest | October 27, 2008 at 12:40 AM

    #15..SHUT THE FUCK UP! FUCKING MORON. Go back to your cave with your redbull and just don’t come out until the world ends. Listening to you is worse then listening the Hank Paulson.

  18. Posted by guest | October 27, 2008 at 1:04 AM
  19. Posted by guest | October 27, 2008 at 1:57 AM

    @3
    OH! that would be SOOOOOO GREAT!
    Death to the GS name. Long live Citi

  20. Posted by guest | October 27, 2008 at 2:01 AM

    mahnahmahnah!
    -vince offer

  21. Posted by guest | October 27, 2008 at 2:16 AM

    8220 tomorrow. down up a little flat

  22. Posted by guest | October 27, 2008 at 4:22 AM

    the market is screwed in the morning. possible major gap fade in the morning. If not, we’re heading lower for X # of days.
    http://www.weeklyta.blogspot.com

  23. Posted by guest | October 27, 2008 at 7:50 AM

    This market is a broken chart, typical of things that people don’t want to own at any price.
    We’re going back to the intraday lows, either today or soon.

  24. Posted by guest | October 27, 2008 at 8:46 AM

    SPODE g g gg g gggggGAY

  25. Posted by guest | October 27, 2008 at 9:05 AM

    Bess, where’s opening bell and snarky Monday AM post? Beat the shit out of those IT guys and get this ship righted.

  26. Posted by guest | October 27, 2008 at 9:14 AM

    bess we need you!

  27. Posted by guest | October 27, 2008 at 9:16 AM

    Damnit, was hoping for a AM post to start my day.. Bess, at least post a barely SFW pic of one of the staffers (preferably female).

  28. Posted by guest | October 27, 2008 at 9:20 AM

    Some background music while we wait for the opening bell my n36gro$…
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6V_COQQPz8

  29. Posted by guest | October 27, 2008 at 9:21 AM

    As long as these hedge funds are not fraud, why do I care if they fail? There is no government regulation on these funds. What is the point of the Fed looking at their books?
    Are not hedge funds for people with a lot of money and they know these are high risk instruments.

  30. Posted by guest | October 27, 2008 at 9:40 AM

    @29 — I feel stupider for taking the time to write this, but what happens to the price of something when there are more sellers than buyers?
    Take the answer and multiply by a shitload.
    Apply to financial markets.
    Extrapolate to industries that rely on financing (i.e everything).
    Then rethink your question.

  31. Posted by Tau | October 27, 2008 at 9:45 AM

    @11:
    Of course it is Not real, names like “Jeffries & Co.”, “Robert W. Baird” and “Southern Trust Securities Inc.” are obviously made up

  32. Posted by guest | October 27, 2008 at 9:49 AM

    Kenny not looking so good, fridays CDS for Shitidel were 30-32/points up

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