10:10: Obviously, I'm upset about the fact that a certain someone is not present but I'm going to forge ahead and maybe I'll make a trip up to Stamford later to get a comment about how he thinks the proceedings went.
10:12: PS, which C-SPAN is this on? 70 is Dodd and his hair. (Just kidding: I'M THERE LIVE, peasants).
10:22: Andrew Lo: "hedge funds can withdraw liquidity at a moment's notice."
10:25: What do you think the big guys are doing while waiting off stage? Plotting to take down Goldman?
10:27: The MIT grad imparts the wisdom that hedge funds don't have to report their performances to any regulator (he'd like to change this).
10:33: Joseph Bankman is talking about taxes and boring the living fuck out of everyone, especially Representative Sarbanes.
10:34: Houman Shadab actually defends short sellers, so I feel good about him.
10:45: "I'm just a tax expert, you don't want my opinion on that [CDOs]."
10:53: Rep. Elijah Cummings wants to know if there's "something special about these guys and ladies that they get the 15 percent tax treatment?"
10:54: Cummings, who's usually excellent and was the one blowing a gasket over AIG spending thousands on "manicures and pedicures," has the gall to name drop "Joe the Plumber."
10:59: Skip to 1:20
11:11: Rep. Mark Souder wants to know where the pension managers were.
"The housing market was going bananas."
11:11: Andrew Lo: "As Warren Buffet says 'A rising tide lifts all boats." Buffett also says "a cheap prostitute still has a vagina."
11:12: Rep. Stephen Lynch is discussing how LTCM and Amaranth were "different." You know what time it is:
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11:22 Rep. Yarmuth takes issue with "5 percent of all trades on the NYSE being executed by one trader," which leads me to this: will the Big Guy get mentioned today? Or does he have some sort of gag order in place?
11:35: 2 things. 1. When Rep. Cooper says "wanna be hedge fund managers," who do we think he's talking about? SC? Or Tim Sykes. 2. I like that C-SPAN keeps flashing the definition of a hedge fund on the screen, which I'm guessing is for the benefit of our congressmen and women.
11:40: Sarbanes is dying to whip out the wrap it up box on Andrew Lo.
11:45: Andrew Lo wants an "education minimum."
11:51: Guy in the hideous pistachio tie literally bows out of every question. "I'm just a tax guy, so I'll pass," he says cracking himself up.






Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 10:14AM
first -- ka-ching!
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 10:14AM
GIRL, I THINK YOU ARE SWELL. LUV YOU HIGHSCHOOL CRUSH.
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 10:14AM
cspan-3
http://www.c-span.org/Watch/C-SPAN3_rm.aspx
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 10:21AM
I know David Ruder and while I like him personally, I get the feeling he is almost senile.
Posted by Investorcluzo , Nov 13, 2008 10:25AM
is it me, or did waxman actually sound as though he respected these guys? "on average, each of the men here today made over $1 billion personally." maybe cash [does] rule everything around me c.r.e.a.m...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poB8oSahSmM
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 10:30AM
5: Waxman may have started to understand that while any individual rich guy is at his mercy, if he pisses ALL of them off, it has serious implications for him and his party.
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 10:30AM
Xcuse my French but this is going to be an assfucking.
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 10:31AM
BL and/or EP:
Layoffs to come at Gabelli shortly. -40%.$31 bil in AUM as of 12/31/07, $25 bil at 9/30, and he's down another 30% in performance since 9/30...not just the hedgies in trouble.
http://gabelli.com/prices/prices.html
Posted by Investorcluzo , Nov 13, 2008 10:33AM
@6 - true, true. I also liked the comment. "we are here to learn what they think we can do in the future to avoid another crisis". such a conciliatory tone makes me feel like this is a set up. barney frank will inevitably interject his populist rhetoric as some point...
Posted by VOL IS KING , Nov 13, 2008 10:35AM
live video from Ken Griffin's future testimony
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 10:35AM
6: Not when half of the registered in the country will no longer be paying any taxes.
Posted by strangebrew , Nov 13, 2008 10:37AM
I guarantee one of the big guys is ripping down butts like nobody's business.
Posted by VOL IS KING , Nov 13, 2008 10:38AM
live video from Ken Griffin's future testimony
http://www.hulu.com/watch/39814/saturday-night-live-macgruber-financial-ruin
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 10:40AM
Cannibal Corpse is the best band around.
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 10:42AM
Rep. Caroloyn Maloney is a fucking PTA mother at best
Posted by strangebrew , Nov 13, 2008 10:45AM
-15, And yet she is the 10th richest house member, with assets in the 10's of millions of dollars. I'd be willing to bet she has some dough in a hedge fund somewhere. Anyone know where she got that kind of coin from?
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 10:45AM
11: Free postage isn't gonna be enough to get him re-elected. He needs campaign contributions to run ads to scare the sheep into voting for him and the sheep have no money (and will have even less when he's through with them.) They need SOME rich guys.
Posted by Anal_yst , Nov 13, 2008 10:46AM
@ 15
Agreed
@ cluzo, @6
No way, you're giving the schmuck way, wayyy too much credit.
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 10:46AM
this is bs-- HF positions should be revealed to a regulator, transparency, blah, blah, blah...-- uh hello?!?! they are to the SEC via prime broker books. now who was it that let the PBs off the hook again?!
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 10:47AM
Shadab is GREAT. I'm nominating this guy for Treasury Secratary.
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 10:51AM
which one is guy smiley again?
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 10:52AM
Cummings just invoked Lord's name...
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 10:52AM
Shadab is awesome.
Also, if Bess is there -- someone get a screenshot. I think she is the frumpy one behind Bankman.
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 10:52AM
this bankman guy looks like he got lots of toilet-bowl swirlees in high school, and possibly college
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 10:52AM
Bess, lunch plans? I'm willing to go out in the rain for the Rayburn salad bar if you're free.
Lobbyist
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 10:53AM
Bankman is such a douche. Such a douche.
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 10:53AM
bankman looks like my insurance guy. now i'm seeing why he always gets me to top up my policies...
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 10:57AM
i don't get it. hedge funds are allowed to do what they do because congress set up the slam dunk for them. why are the congressmen pretending it's anything but their fault?
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 10:58AM
Barry Zubrow needs to go to a Speech PaFFologist....
Four Hundred and Fifty Fousand?
Maybe the risk manager should know how to work a microphone
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 10:59AM
mr. issa fo shizza!
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 11:02AM
Is that really John Tierney, or Darrell Hammond doing Chris Matthews?
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 11:04AM
Dodd, if you don't like the tranparency, buy another fucking fund you idiot.
Posted by VOL IS KING , Nov 13, 2008 11:05AM
when the hell is that video from Mark Haines is smiling, must be early 80's?
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 11:08AM
Dodd's upset that Countrywide can't give him another break of $75,000 on his mortgage that he "doesn't know about."
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 11:10AM
Turned back to CNBC ... Margaret Brennan looking hot ...
wap wap wap wap wap wap wap
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 11:11AM
what is up with the cease & desist order on dresdner bank?
http://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/press/enforcement/20081113a.htm
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 11:12AM
big guys plotting a 1k drop in the dow during their testimony, pledging to reverse it only if the committee lets them GTF outta there...
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 11:16AM
How about some TRANSPARENCY with that $2 trillion the Fed is playing with?
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 11:18AM
shadddabbb, mr. shadab! you're burning my time!
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 11:25AM
Hedge funds not regulated?
http://www.sec.gov/answers/accred.htm
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 11:31AM
I know the master funds are often offshore to allow for a foreign feeder, but how much regulation can be circumvented by setting up the feeder funds offshore?
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 11:32AM
@14 Stripped Raped and Strangled would be very appropriate.
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 11:33AM
Jim Cooper is a dumbshit.
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 11:33AM
was stevie cohen asked to testify?
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 11:37AM
Cooper is truly stupid - "what if the poor pension fund managers don't understand that the hedge fund doesn't hedge?" Oh no, professional money managers might not understand a liguistic relic - TIME FOR CONGRESS TO STEP IN.
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 11:37AM
@41, it's the management companies that would be regulated, generally domestic entities. Several are already regulated as investment advisors, commodity trading advisors and/or commodity pool operators.
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 11:38AM
OK - Did ANYONE think the Fed was going to do this right? Has the Federal Government ever accomplished anything profitable?
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 11:42AM
that tax guy is awkward
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 11:42AM
How about those Citi Nov 5 puts...rally down baby! rally down!
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 11:45AM
Where is ALL CAPS from Wharton??? I want a comment on the Wharton rep.
Posted by VOL IS KING , Nov 13, 2008 11:45AM
come on no body thinks this looks like Griffin?
http://www.hulu.com/watch/39814/saturday-night-live-macgruber-financial-ruin
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 11:46AM
@46 - Thanks. So everyone moves to Ireland, Luxembourg, or the Caymans, if possible?
41
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 11:52AM
Intelligent, well intentioned articulate, and logical testimony? People like Houman Shadab make you actually think we can get over this economic debacle...at least until they shouted down by some over the top talking heads.
-C
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 11:53AM
from now on the correct answer to any question requiring more than a half second of contemplation is "i'm just a tax guy"
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 11:58AM
52 i call Ireland!
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 12:01PM
has waxman's nose grown larger, or is just the camera angle?
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 12:01PM
has waxman's nose grown larger, or is it just the camera angle?
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 12:04PM
on the internet broadcast they are giving us updates on when they will return to their regularly scheduled program on mccarthy - HYSTERICAL
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 12:04PM
love soros plugging his book.
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 12:05PM
tell me Soros squeezed in a plug for his book... this guy is worse tham jimmy norton!
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 12:06PM
@51- funny shit.
Posted by Investorcluzo , Nov 13, 2008 12:09PM
oh snap! soros just called out the politicos - regulators are "human and beaurocratic"
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 12:09PM
where are the written hearings posted
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 12:11PM
It's easy to laugh at the politicos but man o man they get some fine tail.
Posted by VOL IS KING , Nov 13, 2008 12:17PM
@Bess:
yeah can we get the written testimony on this?
thx, lets circle back when you have those numbers.
P.S. is Simmons on crack? CDO's ratings must be paid for by the buyers to eliminate conflict of interest? Correct me if i'm wrong but today's buyers are tomorrow's sellers.... doesn't seem to eliminate the conflict to me.
P.P.S. Take a shot every time Soros says reflexivity.
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 12:24PM
@65,
Smokey from Stonybrook is on track as usual. Issuer bought ratings are trash. If rated by a neutral, clearing house type party, funded by transaction cost based fee the result will improve.
Posted by Investorcluzo , Nov 13, 2008 12:38PM
this is about to get interesting. q&a time, the unscripted stuff will lead to some sound bites that weren't pre-approved by the pr folks back at hq.
soros pumped his book, griff pumped his/cme's exchange. who's next? time to take a bite out of crime on wall st...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqYqn8_S0OI&feature=related
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 12:47PM
@42
I agree. In fact, many parallels could be drawn to the current state of the economy and Cannibal Corpse record and song titles.
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 1:17PM
Don't let barney Frank anywhere near the money
http://endofesq.com/?p=515
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 1:17PM
Don't let barney Frank anywhere near the money
http://endofesq.com/?p=515