AMEX After $3.5B In TARP Money (WSJ)
American Express, after becoming a Bank Holding Company on Monday, is seeking aid to the tune of $3.5B to cover losses because of bad lines of credit and increasing costs. There's a bit of an ethical question floating about, namely whether or not this is the intended use of Taxpayer money.
China Retail Sales Up 22% (Bloomberg)
China's retail sales rose 22% in October in spite of global economic woes, which is a hell of an accomplishment. China's working hard not to let the numbers slip into "average" growth territory, you'll remember a couple of days ago (Monday) they announced ~$600B in aid to improve fundamentals. Right now it looks like their chief concern is Real Estate devaluations undermining investments, which in turn is leading to a constriction in investment spending across the board.
You'll Probably Be Getting Coal For Christmas Anyway (Reuters)
American Research Group released its numbers for Christmas Spending, and they're calling for a cut - the first in more than 20 years. Apparently those surveyed are planning on spending less per gift and buying fewer gifts, which led to the ARG projecting a -1% growth in retail spending.
Have Americans finally gotten the point? It seems rather obvious people can't afford the crap their buying: if you make 40k a year you can't afford a 40k car, 200k house, and 20k in credit lines. It's just not possible. You can't afford that crap at 80k a year, though I'm sure you could show me some spreadsheet that proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that if you account for 98% of your earnings and you stretch the car loans out to 6 years, you can just make it.
Treasury May Call For PE Backer To Injections (WSJ)
The Treasury is pulling a classic girlfriend move here, calling for extra terms after it's handed a little of the "good stuff" out. They might be moving to require that firms seeking capital from the TARP program raise a minimum requirement through Private Equity before becoming eligible. The new rules would most probably come into effect after (if) Congress approves the remaining $350B in aid money, as they only have $60B left in the original disbursement.
Also of note, the article touches on how the Treasury isn't using the money to buy troubled assets but rather for direct injections, presumably (though not implicitly mentioned) through buying Preffereds.
Just a thought here, but if you (Mr. Government) had your shit together you could put all these preferred's in the SWF proposed in yesterday's OB, and actually put the money towards something meaningful, like saving SS so we don't (collectively) have to pay for our parent's fucking retirement out of pocket.
Pershing's Ackman Says GM Should Reorganize (CNBC)
Ackman has reportedly come down on the side of reorganization, and while he doesn't explicitly cite me as the grand master architect of GMs salvation, it's obvious we're on the same page:
"GM should be allowed to succeed," Ackman, who runs New York-based Pershing Square Capital Management, told Reuters Tuesday. "And the only way GM can succeed is if it has a balance sheet its business can support."
Pelosi Furthers Socialist Endeavors (NYT)
The Auto Manufacturers are failing because they're a financial nightmare, not because they're caught in the credit squeeze, so it makes absolute sense that we should bail them out - always seek a short term solution costing Billions of dollars whenever possible.
BOE Cut Looming (Bloomberg)
We could see a cut coming from the BOE, as recent efforts to calm contraction have failed; I'd look for 25/50bps in the near future.
Oil Markets May Have Rough Future (Reuters)
An American was shot in Pakistan (now owned by China) yesterday, and Iran was test firing missiles (Russia's new lap dog); there's obviously a sense of calm in the air.
--William Richards






Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 8:09AM
A $200k house? Where, pray tell, are they selling those?
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 8:17AM
@1 Dallas?
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 8:17AM
@1
Delaware
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 8:18AM
@1
Yeah, they sell those in south-side chicago...they're sold by sleazy slum landlords from Syria named 'Toni' Rezko and the houses are bought by Palestinian terror money by corrupt political scumbags named 'Barack Obama'
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 8:19AM
@1 take a look across the hudson and you'll find plenty
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 8:21AM
@4
In two years, every house in America will be under $200K thanks to our new socialist-in-chief.
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 8:24AM
@1
Depends on your definition of a house...
If you're a hippie/typical Obama supporter, you may be alright with cardboard and settling into a nice handcrafted Home Depot Box House for only $4.99
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 8:24AM
Good job on the Opening Bell color today...one day you will make $80k a year again.
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 8:25AM
# 4 dont choke on your hatorade you nasty clown
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 8:26AM
Private Equity rockstars heart Obama!
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 8:28AM
@7
What if you're the messiah, how much does it take to BUY the white house?
I heard it costs around $3 billion, but terror money and a dollar here and there from poor people expected a 'tax credit'...and there you go...you have "millions" of voices and muslims "asking for change" and giving change to help you buy the White House.
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 8:38AM
Don't forget,
South-side Chicago thugs heart Obama too!
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 8:42AM
My house was worth $500k last year...and it was worth $700k the year before that....if it gets to $200k, I'm going to fu*ckin' piss on it.
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 8:43AM
@14
May be you should consider crapping on it.
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 8:52AM
#14
"Welcome to Countrywide, you can we help you buy a piece of the American Dream."
Do you remember hearing those words...yeah, now you're screwed...screwed and deep in a hole of shitpie, a hole of shitpie that we are all going to be in after the Left is thoroughly finished raping the country of all that makes it great....all hail to the new hiphop pop-culture mob rule...all hail to queen obama.
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 9:04AM
@15
Countrywide rocks! Keep the debt-fueled orgy going!
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 9:08AM
Welcome to the USSA of fuhrer Obama, censorship is advised.
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 9:09AM
Russians smelling like Debt Default II. Russian market suspended again after 12.5% loss.
Posted by Phobos , Nov 12, 2008 9:15AM
@18 Russia's economy is screwed -- which makes them more dangerous. Think Iraq circa 90 when they nearly went bankrupt..
And as a side note, can we stop it with the %*CKING annoying Obama Muslim/Terrorist BS? Ad Hominem attacks have never been well recieved here..
Sham Wow? Sham WOW.
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 9:17AM
ahhh, Russia...a backwards dump that's an excuse for a country...
resurgent? WTF?! resurgent my ass. Russia will always be the land of deadly submarine accidents, decaying infrastruture, the mob and murderous dictators.
Let's take a moment to remember the swagger of those asswipes when they invaded and beat the shit out of a country that's as small as West Virgina. Ohhhh, so tough of you tiger-fighting Mr. Putin, so strong and honorable, Russia is definitely a superpower now!
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 9:18AM
We need a pair of Truck NUTZ on that jet ski.
TLDR©
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 9:18AM
what SWF proposal?
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 9:20AM
@10
Palestinian homocide-bombers heart Obama!
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 9:20AM
dear iwa jima guy,
the election ended a week ago.
though your mental illness is appreciated.
-retail
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 9:22AM
Shit...soemone tell Pelosi about this stat. They need TARP funds right now...where else will be able to listen to hot lesbians make out....
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20081111/D94CR3BO0.html
Posted by Anal_yst , Nov 12, 2008 9:22AM
Wait, Treasury expects PE to volunteer to lay down on the tracks in front of them and get railroaded?
Really? They're serious?
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 9:26AM
Yes,
by now you've figured out that the government wants us all to lay down on the tracks and get railroaded....it will only get worse come january.
Posted by Seaman Bodine , Nov 12, 2008 9:26AM
russia with $60 oil is way more dangerous than aaaa-rab terrorist type regions
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 9:28AM
@28
you're right, we need to send a CIA spy to put some plutoniom in their o.j.
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 9:28AM
I got a call from Mohammed Al'suca Midik from the Gaza Strip. He told me to vote for Obama....i told him to suck it.
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 9:32AM
Russia can't fuck with us. We'll throw green energy at there faces...muhahahah..
just wait until Obama cuts our defense spending by a quarter and puts it into buildings Priuses and hybrids...
We'll be armed to the teeth with wind turbines and solar panels...the Russians won't dare to even think about messing with us.
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 9:33AM
Russia can't fuck with us. We'll throw green energy at their faces...muhahahah..
just wait until Obama cuts our defense spending by a quarter and puts it into building Priuses and hybrids...
We'll be armed to the teeth with wind turbines and solar panels...the Russians won't dare to even think about messing with us.
Posted by Bugs Meany , Nov 12, 2008 9:33AM
Something like a majority of Russian pregnancies end in abortion. Their army is approaching majority-Muslim status and pretty soon won't be taking orders from the Kremlin. And now their oil is worth almost 1/3 of what it used to be. They are way more fucked than we are.
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 9:36AM
come to think of it, the Russians need us more than we need them....especially if the common threat is islam
Posted by Joseph di Jersey City , Nov 12, 2008 9:37AM
21: Are Truck Nutz the new Sham Wow? I truly hope so.
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 9:38AM
hell, I'd be scared if I were russian. Especially if my birthrate is declining and more than half my army is named Mohammed.
Posted by Bugs Meany , Nov 12, 2008 9:39AM
P.S. We will totally lose our "less fucked than Russia" status if Bawney Fwank gets his way and redirects 25% of our defense budget to welfare checks. In a sane world, that sort of idea would be ample grounds for charges of treason.
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 9:42AM
Obviously the best strategy to get us out of this financial mess etc...is to start a war, something on the order of a world war is needed. Basically, we need to fuck some countries up and take their resources and build factories to build ships, planes, missles, tanks and bullets. The best way to do this is to drop the first bomb on Mecca.
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 9:43AM
re: Treasury May Call For PE Backer To Injections (WSJ)
"Private capital" is not just private equity, even though that is all you people think about. Private capital is anything BUT public capital (a la the TARP) such as equity, debt, etc. The gov't isnt asking people to raise PE money -- just money from the market to validate that the bank is viable.
Please re-read the article but this time, engage the reading comprehension part of your brain.
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 9:45AM
@37
Right on.
We will be truly fucked if we let Bawney Fwank near anything resembling a leadership position, esp. after that dipshit said he wants to cut our defense spending by 25%
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 9:46AM
@40 you einstein did you apply for a noble prize yet?
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 9:50AM
@41
I was thinking about applying, but since that phony Al Gore got one for inspiring us all with his lying statistics about climate change...I thought I wouldn't want a prize from a discredited, front organization for liberalism.
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 9:52AM
40 Why is it among conservatives that whenever the talk is about government, they picture the post office and state without equivocation that if things were run efficiently they could be done just as well at half the cost. But suggest that for defense and its treason. Very little of the defense budget is boots on the ground. Most of it is a vast, cumbersome and pampered bureaucracy. I doubt that America would be a less safe place if a 25% spending cut was imposed.
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 9:53AM
How about a bailout for consumers stuck holding gift cards for Linens N' Things, Circuit City, or Mervyns? If AmEx gets a bailout, we need to see the 10 top abusive accounts that defaulted. Really. What were all the charges on the Lehman and B. Stearns AmEx accounts before they died?
How many plasma TVs are in all the defaulted AmEx accounts?
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 9:55AM
25%? Defense spending should be cut in half.
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 9:55AM
@38
That's probably the most well-thought out economic stimulus package to date, especially when compared to the morphing government plans.
I also think the world war idea would actually work. We should also decentralize the fighting, by hiring firms like Blackwater to help fight the war. By privatizing the war effort, that should have a greater effect in stimulating the economy. All the laid-off workers could get good-paying $100k+ jobs killing people in the Middle East and then taking their oil. Brilliant idea!
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 9:59AM
@46 and @43
I have a better idea. Let's deport illegal immigrants like Obama's aunt (who is living on the taxpayers dime) and also cut welfare spending by 50%, and with all that money, we can double our defense spending, start paying off our national debt and have lower taxes.
Wow! what a fucking crazy ideeear!
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 10:05AM
@43
That spending goes to companies like Lockheed Martin to build fighter jets and Raytheon, etc.... They build weapons that help us bomb the shit out of people without having 'dead' boots on the ground. Ask any soldier about predators and robot-soldiers and they'll tell you the investment is worth it.
These entities are totally different from the shit-service post-office that just has lazy stupid drones shuffling little envelopes around. So the double-standard is definitely warranted. If our money was going to FedEx for contracts instead of the Post-Office, I'd support that too. So totally different concepts here you moron.
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 10:05AM
47 Illegals actually net net contribute to the economy. Who do you think watches kids and old people, delivers food, washes dishes and puts up dry wall in an efficent and low cost manner. Oh and that idea about cutting welfare spending by 50% and using the proceeds to double defense, retire debt and lower taxes. Look at the numbers. The math doesnt work, not by a long shot. Don't they teach math on Staten Island?
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 10:06AM
@43
That spending goes to companies like Lockheed Martin to build fighter jets and Raytheon, etc.... They build weapons that help us bomb the shit out of people without having 'dead' boots on the ground. Ask any soldier about predators and robot-soldiers and they'll tell you the investment is worth it.
These entities are totally different from the shit-service post-office that just has lazy stupid drones shuffling little envelopes around. So the double-standard is definitely warranted. If our money was going to FedEx for contracts instead of the Post-Office, I'd support that too. So totally different concepts here you moron.
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 10:08AM
@49
Would all the left-wing proponents of illegal-immigration please leave DB and go to a site that is more relevant to their believes that are supported by delusional statistics from michael moore and moveon.org....etc...
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 10:09AM
48 You've obviously never been to the Pentagon, the biggest office building in the world (in floor space). Talk about drones shuffling around.
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 10:10AM
@49
Obviously, you have never been to southern CA. I live there and illegals are definitely a fuckin' burden on the system. You may not see it in your Emergency Room up in Boston....but most definitely in CA.
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 10:11AM
48 ....or listened to hearings on base closings, many of which are essentially pork for the local economy.
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 10:11AM
@52
Then join me in supporting privatization, support Blackwater USA, you hippe.
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 10:15AM
53 I'm from NY, so I know all about illegals. I'm sure that they are a burden on the emergency room system, but what you're forgetting is that they're positive contributors in many other areas of the economy. And honest studies - not just moveon.org - say that there is a significant net net positive effect. People that feel otherwise are generally those that are either threatened or racist.
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 10:15AM
Its funny to see a liberal give us a lecture on pork...the same two-faced liberal that is at those base-closing hearings trying to prevent the base from closing up...so the labor union nearby still has 'jobs.'
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 10:17AM
55 Blackwater did such a good job in Iraq, we should def support them.
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 10:20AM
wow...this type of vitriol begs the question: why would you espouse the same feelings as *people from the South and Midwest*? we usually rip on these people for their lack of pedigree (literally), education, and names such as "Cletus" and "Slack-Jawed Yokel".... clearly, the drag on the U.S. are these union-loving, low-skilled, low-ambition genetic retreads.
yet your crticisms of Obama are: he's a secret terrorist and socialist.
just stick with criticizing him on defense cuts, as those are certain to follow, or raising taxes at the wrong time
Welcome to "Sean Hannity's America", hope you like the taste of moonshine...
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 10:21AM
@56
Look, this is not about racism. The trash that swims up the Rio Grande and into CA is generally uneducated and is exploited by unscrupluous employers (the same employers that liberals hate). This trash also goes to the ER everytime it gets a cold or sneezes, which charges our system $800 instead of the $10 bottle of advil. I've seen it over and over. And there are soooooooo many studies that point to the amount of money that is lost from this entire underground black employment market fueled by illegals. How many hours do you think an illegal has to work to make up that one Emergency Room visit? And considering that they make $4/hr and have a tax rate of zero?
You most be confused between legal immigrants who pay taxes and are usually professionals like doctors and engineers from india versus the trash that swims up the Rio Grande.
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 10:24AM
@58
I agree. Blackwater definitely did a great job in Iraq....just look at all the dead bodies and the way people tremble when their convoys drive by...that's the definition of being successful in their business.
Posted by Anal_yst , Nov 12, 2008 10:27AM
@ 39
Ok smartass, let me rephrase because you, apparently, missed your own point.
The Treasury expects private capital to get in front of them?
Same thing jackass.
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 10:30AM
@59
This isn't about the South or Midwest...this is about rejecting the inner-city liberal theology. I know you must be a white guy in NY who feels guilty and all for your race and turn to liberalism...but that doesn't mean that the right-wing is dead or backwards. I'm the son of 'legal' mexican immigrants in southern california. i am neither religious nor do I speak with redneck accent. But, I am smart enough to realize that I do not want to give away my country's global economic and military dominance for the sake of international cooperation and political correctness. I want to win, I want our economy to win, I want our military to win...fuck the environment and collateral damage...anyone else in the world would do it too.
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 10:31AM
60 Not confused at all. An example: my MD and his wife (also a banker, but not at his lofty level), employ two illegals to watch their children. The efficient running of their household allows the wife to earn big bucks, pay a lot of taxes. The illegals themselves work very hard and bring their less lofty earnings back to the outer boros, contributing to a lively although not extravagent by NY standards economy in their nabe. Its win win. Every so often, someone's appendix bursts, casusing a trip to the emergency room (spare me the cough - illegals dont have time to spend in the emergency room if its only a cough) and it costs NYC some money. Small price to pay. You could look it up - Bloomberg is on my side on this one. Cause he's smart and analytical.
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 10:33AM
@63
I agree, a gloated welfare system....is way worse than the prospect of a huge muscular and gloated military. Isn't that the point...to see American carriers bristling with jets and missles in all the fuckin' world's oceans.
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 10:39AM
@64
Yes, what morons we all are...illegal immigrants contribute so much to our GDP, i mean more than the scientists too. Wow, what productive and incredibly vital jobs they do like tending the home or mowing the lawn...
And the most important part is how much they stimulate the economy by spending their globs and globs of dispisable income on nice cars and houses and other products in their barrios. Wow, truly the engine of fuckin' economic growth...what will our economy do without their robotic repetitive shit-work.
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 10:39AM
@64
Yes, what morons we all are...illegal immigrants contribute so much to our GDP, i mean more than the scientists too. Wow, what productive and incredibly vital jobs they do like tending the home or mowing the lawn...
And the most important part is how much they stimulate the economy by spending their globs and globs of disposable income on nice cars and houses and other products in their barrios. Wow, truly the engine of fuckin' economic growth...what will our economy do without their robotic repetitive shit-work.
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 10:42AM
@66
Lightin' up man. If illegals went away we'd be sooo screwed. Okay, so may be our windows in Manhattan would be dirty for a few weeks until someone at MIT engineering invents a fuckin' robotic window cleaner that costs 1/5 of the blood those parasites suck out of the system.
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 10:48AM
@61
Blackwater USA...their slogan should be.."99 problems and killing ain't one"
Their videos on youtube show how these guys drop bodies faster than mosquitos getting hit with propellent.
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 10:52AM
@69
It's like a turkey-shoot for them over there. It unbelievable that they get handsomely paid for it too, like being paid to have fun.
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 12:23PM
@62
..39 here..
I dont understand what you mean by "getting in front of them." Treasury is indifferent to how the capital is raised - they just want PRIVATE capital injected into institutions since they arent very good at picking winners and losers. And they will match the funds once the institution has been validated by the market.
My point is that this phrase from the DB piece -- "...require that firms seeking capital from the TARP program raise a minimum requirement through Private Equity before becoming eligible..." -- is simply not true and misunderstands the point re: matching funds.
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 12:33PM
@37, the U.S. defense budget is the most bloated part of government. We're spending more than we were during the Cold War and half of it is on stupid weapons that we'll never use in combat again. There are two kinds of war now - urban insurgency, and nuclear holocaust. Neither is actually that expensive.
I enjoyed watching that green tracer fire on CNN as much as anybody, but I don't think being able to light up Baghdad every decade or so is worth several trillion dollars.
Posted by Anal_yst , Nov 12, 2008 1:32PM
@71
One way of looking at it is classic standoff situation: Market doesn't want to invest until they know which firms will be 'chosen' by the Gubment; Gub'ment doesn't want to make the 1st move for fear the "market" will decide they chose poorly.
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 1:36PM
@72
You do not understand the idea of nuclear deterrant. We still need conventional weapons, even with a nuclear deterrant. For example, would we launch nukes if China invaded Taiwan?..hell no! Would China launch nukes if we defended Taiwan?..hell not! Because they know that if they did the other side would also launch nukes and everyone would die. Therefore, you need a conventional fighting force, since the nuclear option is more of a last resort...like when enemy troops at outside your capital, because both leaderships in the warring nations understand mutually assured destruction. We also need a strong conventional force to protect our trading partners and economic interests.
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 1:39PM
@72
You do not understand the idea of nuclear deterrant. We still need conventional weapons, even with a nuclear deterrant. For example, would we launch nukes if China invaded Taiwan?..hell no! Would China launch nukes if we defended Taiwan?..hell not! Because they know that if they did the other side would also launch nukes and everyone would die. Therefore, you need a conventional fighting force, since the nuclear option is more of a last resort...like when enemy troops at outside your capital, because both leaderships in the warring nations understand mutually assured destruction. We also need a strong conventional force to protect our trading partners and economic interests.
Posted by Bugs Meany , Nov 12, 2008 1:45PM
@72
1. See the point above about drones. They happen to be extremely useful for urban insurgency.
2. The Internet, GPS, all manner of advances in medical technology--products or by-products of Pentagon-funded R&D. What have *your* favorite government departments contributed to society?
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 1:55PM
#72 reminds me of the bum on the way to work...not caring if this country has a military or economy or anything...just wanting to 'stop the war'
we need a strong military to protect our economic interests as well...dickwad.
i.e...when the Caspian Sea pipeline that runs to our market is threatened by Russia, does our nuclear arsenal matter?
Or does a carrier in the Black Sea have a better shot at keeping that pipeline from being taking over by the Russians. Gosh, understand nuclear deterrance...what an idoit...and the scary thing is that people like these are now in power...God help us.
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 1:56PM
@4 be respectful of the USA president and the majority who voted for him. if you don't like it, you can still leave this country... and by the way, this is applicable to all the other ignorant haters. damn I hate them' haters!
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 2:00PM
@76
Right on....the Post Office and welfare programs haven't contributed shit....except the millions of dependent group-think minded people who make up the Democratic base...basically shit.
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 2:02PM
@73/@62
Whaddayaknow. I agree -- and that's exactly the challenge with this approach.... The real issue is that they keep changing the damn rules of the game. What private investor would invest if they (a) didnt know what the terms of the government piece would be and (2) thought that even if they did know, the government could simply change the terms when they saw fit. And (IV) the reason they had the TARP from the beginning is a lack of capital support to financial institutions...
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 2:11PM
@78
#4 here...Compared to the way President Bush was graciously treated....I think my treatment of the socialist affirmative action baby who sits in a anti-American church for 20 fuckin' years is very respectable.
May be he should leave the country, if that sob agrees with Wright that the USA started AIDS and that we deserved to get attacked....yeah...south-side Chicago is full of true-American patriots.
Patriots don't bomb the Pentagon like William Ayers. I take pride in being called a hater if it means hating people like Wright, Ayers, Obama and the south-side chicago sewage that bubbled its way up into the White House with the deceptive aid of a press awash in activist phonies pretending to be unbias. Journalism is no longer a subject anymore....its been turned into an ideaology...visit any journalism school or news organization.
Posted by Anal_yst , Nov 12, 2008 3:04PM
@ 80
Couldn't agree more, hence why I went to cash a few months back. Call me a nancy, but between firm-instituted 30-day mandatory holding period and legislative uncertainty as you mentioned, that's more risk than I care to take on.
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 4:53PM
#1-81
CONGRATULATIONS
"YOU GET THE 'WORLDS GREATEST PREDATOR AWARD'"
Growl, so I'll know where to aim my shotgun.
PS heard Bears/Goblins/Geese/Statesmen have yet to be felled by shotguns.
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 5:21PM
@83
Put the gun away dude. You're freaking me out with the crazy talk. Surely everyone here is crazy, while you are perfectly sane, judging by the creepy shit you say, I'd say you're the whacko that needs to be shot.
@82
I went to cash a few months back as well and everyone said that was a risky strategy. In their words apparently "sometimes the riskiest strategy is not taking any risk at all"
I disagree, it turns out that the riskiest strategy is underestimating risk. Equities are great in normal times, just not the last year when they been consistently getting riped a new one almost every month.
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 5:28PM
#83
Whoa there bubba, the last thing we need to do is escalate this into the "i'm gonna shoot you with my sawed-of shotgun" type of shit. If you can't take the heat, just go away. No need to start the "i'm gonna get my machine gun and kill #'s 1-81." It's incredibly immature and makes you look worse.
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 5:31PM
81 Bush got treated the way he deserved to be: like the idiot he is.
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 5:33PM
We're all screwed, the economy is fucked, and the stock market is fucked. We'll be gathering twigs, hay and dried-up feces soon to make our 'green cars,' mud houses, and cooking oil. It truly is a sad state, when people wish they could get that post-office or government job. Who wants to clean toilets in Senate building?
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 5:36PM
86, Okay, Bush was an idiot....Now he's been replaced by a radical community organizer from slimy chicago...we can sleep soundly.
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 5:40PM
88 Actually, I would characterize W's replacement as a thoughtful and intelligent person, who has already surrounded himself with some talented economic advisors.
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 5:43PM
@86....oh and bawny fwank is so damn smaaaat. and pelosi and reid are fucking rocket scientists...and the 97% of blacks who voted for the messiah are incredibly fucking smart and are the most educated and literate members of our society and don't make up more than half of our prison population...and you must be incredibly smart yourself...just like the smart hollywood actors or condescending english and ethic studies professors who've never built anything in their lives.
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 5:53PM
Thoughtful....uhhhh, I don't know about that. He's seems more of a slick, lying used car salesman that needs to back up his rhetoric with...
wait for it.....
actually accomplishment.
can you name one thing Mr. Thoughtful has done, besides being thoughtful and hoping
Posted by guest , Nov 12, 2008 7:35PM
God.....just shut up!
I'm sick of hearing about Obama...it makes me want to throw up! He's not even president as of today, yet he still manages to be so annoying. Okay, we get it....fucking Jesus is in the White House and he's brought some magic and hope and change with him....
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 1:17AM
I can't believe all of the anti Obama posts. As if Obama had anything to do with any of this stuff.
One or two people are posting this mindless shit. It's about as convincing as the Ron Paul posts during the primaries.
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 8:21AM
From your parents:
OF COURSE you will pay for our retirement! We are (were) counting on it. :)
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 10:17AM
Dear mom and dad,
But who'll pay for my retirement? I voted for Obama, hopefully his shit bag-o-change will pay for everything.
Posted by guest , Nov 14, 2008 6:38PM
@93....whateva....girlfriend...
uhhhhh huh.....you know it....they best be watchin' what they sayin'....cuz that shit izzzz messed up.
-La Toyahoya la Queesha
Posted by guest , Nov 14, 2008 6:43PM
@96
They best be a watchin' what they say about ou' booooooouy! man, that shit izzzie just not soo uncoolio yo...ma bros in the hood was so inspired...it's jus' phat crazy maaaan.
-Jerome Tyron King IIII
Posted by guest , Nov 15, 2008 10:39PM
@97
Stop being such a hata' You knaw betta than that. Didn't yo mama teach you anything booouy. Now, whose yo dadie?
-La Tisha
Posted by guest , Nov 15, 2008 10:42PM
@98
Hey La Tisha.....ummmm...you wanna hang out this weekend...im havin an Obama celebation parteeeey at my place. im at the bench on 34th and broadway....see ya there on Monday night. um...i'll have weed....can you bring the pussssayyy?
yeeeeeah!
-Jerome Curtis Biggins
Posted by guest , Nov 15, 2008 10:44PM
@99
No way booouy! i don't hang like that....i mean i don't hang around with scrub like you.....you best knaw who yo dealin' wit. I'm a classy sista'! This pusssay only put out in a benz booouy...not on a bench...you best understan.
-La Tisha
Posted by guest , Nov 18, 2008 11:38AM
@100
Oh, La Tisha..youz a fuckin' bitch. A fuckin' dirty-ass vagina bitch...so dirty that fuckin' shit lives up in that little pussy of yoz. You best shut the fuck up and now whose youz be playin wit. You got that...maaaan, me and Jerome is tight...tighter than his 19 inch black cock in my snug little vagina....so back off and don't be sayin' shiiiiat giiiirllll!! I know wherz you at myspace and i'll get me crew to beat you up and fuck that lil' dirty nasty pussy of yourz.
Understan bitch?
-La Fifatesha
Posted by guest , Nov 18, 2008 11:45AM
@101
Please bitch...spare me the drama....ain't no drama-mammmas pammas needed up in here...bring it on yo dirty little ho..
and why is all these stupid black people up in here in dealbreaker anyway...what the hell is dealbreaker.com....man...why the hell r we readin' this successful white people shit...man, screw that...where bet, give me some black entertainment bitch...let's get off this and meet me at the unemployment office bitch...imma kick yo ass and bring that Jerome of yourz too you whore. Come on...we'll fight and i'll make sure you get disability for sure and that you don't have to fake it no more to get those checks in the mail...
see you there biiiiatch...and my pussy is nasty and looose....so what? all my booooooouuyz love it that way...its warm and toasty and that all that matters.
-La Tisha