Citi Considering New Chairman? (Reuters)
The BOD, dissatisfied with the performance of the company, may be moving to seek new leadership. The majority of this article is blatant conjecture, so we'll skip the thriving analysis and just jump to the point: replacing the chairman at this point would probably send a strong signal to shareholders.
UBS Numbers: 1 Broker, 20,000 people, 20B (WSJ)
You have to really, really try to help 20,000 people dodge taxes on 20 billion USD. Not only does it take talent, my friends, but the level of commitment is unreal.
Lower Oil Prices Drive Russia And Kuwait To Craig's List For Money (Bloomberg)
"Oil, Russia's chief export, has fallen 63 percent since the July-high of $147. The ruble has plunged 21 percent against the dollar in the past four months, even as the central bank sold 16 percent of its currency reserves in an attempt to arrest declines. Reserves dropped $9.2 billion last week to the lowest this year at $475.4 billion, central bank said today. "
Historically, when Russia has been faced with tough times they've chosen to go one of two routes:
1) Nationalize everything, execute dissenters, and form food lines.
2) Start a War.
Given the recent trends in Russia's social strata I wouldn't be surprised if a bit of both happened this go round. Leadership has been excising anyone with power and money that could plausibly stand in their way and they've excited the people - there's now wealth and pride, and that's something Russians have been without for decades. The war comes in when you realize that you can't just "make" money to keep all this BS alive, you actually have to have economic fundamentals to support it. So who do they take over (or try to take over)? Not a clue. I hear there's money on the interwebs. You should take over the interwebs, Russia.
Insurers Set For Failure (NYT)
Life Insurers have thus far remained relatively unscathed by the recent trends in finance, but there's strong signals that that's about to change. It looks as though Life Insurance companies have been quietly lining up at the Government tit waiting for TARP money to sweep in and save their collective asses. What makes insurance companies so much fun is that they're state counter-insured, such that if the insurance company goes out of business the state places the standing contracts with another insurance company that's approved to operate in that area. Now, the issue with this is that they have to see to the contract fulfillment, but they haven't taken any of the premiums to offset the risk of having to pay. Effectively, they're getting screwed. But, states can't afford to eat the money themselves, so if this happens on a wide enough scale, we could see a domino effect - that is until Pelosi buys the Insurance sector on behalf of the American People. Then we'll be fine.
GM Having Problems With Asset Sales (Bloomberg)
If you're bleeding cash it would make sense that you hold on to whatever is actually generating revenue for you, right? And then on the flip side, you figure that no one is going to buy a black hole for money: if something hasn't/won't generate revenue (profit) then there's no real reason to invest in it. It looks like what we're looking at as we step through this GM liquidation is a meeting of the two: GM has to sell the shit that's one day going to be profitable (despite the utter stupidity of this) so they can raise money to operate, and meanwhile, no one will buy any of it because they're scared that GM will go bust, and without the GM name still in operation none of this shit is profitable. Call Yossarian, see what he has to say.
Cuomo Files Subpoena, Seeks BoA Bonus Information (CNBC)
Cuomo says that BoA didn't respond to his informal request, to which BoA responds: we told him that the "Bank of America is not using TARP money for executive compensation or bonuses."
Good. All should be settled. No? What? You're filing a subpoena? Cool, McCarthy, you run with that Bull.
There's too much there that's patently similar to ignore the thought that A.G. Cuomo has modeled his career after that of the illustrious Jr. Senator from Wisconsin. Let's look at the highlights: McCarthy protected the American people from evil communists, Cuomo from evil Bankers. McCarthy abused his power to rise to fame, Cuomo is abusing his power in the rise. McCarthy fought his battles in the press, and engaged millions of Americans in fear and hate, Cuomo is fighting his battles in the press and attempting to engage millions of Americans in fear and hate. McCarthy would cast aspersions, he would require that people either defend themselves or are guilty by default, Cuomo is casting aspersions, assuming guilt and telling banks to prove innocence.
I think you can figure the rest out; the point is that if you don't watch this shit, it becomes the standard quo.
--William Richards






Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 8:45AM
First
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 8:51AM
Obama
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 8:52AM
Cuomo is a douche
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 8:52AM
Sloppy second....
C needs to replace its board. Get ride of the gang that created the dysfunctional firm that never sleeps. With a new board they can then hire a guy like Jamie Dimon to fix things.
This is nuts. Phat Sandy still cares more about his ego than the company. Fire Phat Boy now!!!
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 8:59AM
Right now life insurance companies are trading at the value of their underlying assets. If you think stocks, bonds and property will bounce back in the long run, life insurance companies will be fine.
The same people who are downgrading them now (Moody's and Goldman) will be creaming all over them when the market goes up and they are again overcapitalized.
Most of these guys did things right: their portfolios are fairly conservative and aren't levered like a Lehman or Goldman.
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 9:07AM
I am an investment banker. Thank you citizens for my bonus.
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 9:09AM
I am an investment banker. Thank you also for saving my job.
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 9:10AM
@4: Firing the board is like changing out the crew of the Titanic after it hit the iceberg.
The problem is they have crap assets that need to be marked down, and not enough equity to mark it down against. So they need equity. That comes via: (1) raising it in the market, or (2) government bailout. The problem is, the market doesn't want C, and the government can't afford it.
So they bob along the water, and hope for better times. Basically, there IS no solution here.
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 9:19AM
"A few years ago I was in Warren Assembly, in Warren, County, Michigan. Two plants side by side make the Ford Focus and the Ford Expedition. As you drive from Dearborne to Warren County, every abandoned shopping center parking lot was full of vehicles. A friend of mine was then the HR Manager for Ford Truck and I asked him why they were still building.
His answer astounded me. UAW Labor is paid company wages whether they work or not. America has to wake up concerning this. Until we can get organizations like the UAW to understand the only missing ingredient to creating a level playing field is getting the cost of labor to a realistic level, domestic car makers will never be successful."
http://tinyurl.com/67ezrb
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 9:21AM
@8 Why does C have the bad assets? Hello. My view is that they need equity in the right hands. Vikram is a complete tool and a puppet for the board which is still dominated by Phat Sandy.
Why not give a new board with improved senior management a try? How come Kenny Boy Lewis is not in the same boat? Better board, better management.
C still has a franchise worth saving. However, calling off the holiday soriee is not what I would call making the hard choices.
What they are doing now is re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic when its time for a new ship.
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 9:24AM
Bess - Muffy should comment on Martin Eisenstadt. Maybe she knows him personally? In a biblical way?
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 9:27AM
When do we get a fictional IM exchange of Corzine taunting Paulson? A little karmic payback humor
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 9:28AM
All Cuomo needs in that picture is a woman in a white dress and he can be in the Sunday Styles women's sports section.
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 9:30AM
post is greasy and stupid
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 9:31AM
#21,28 here (of old MS Layoff thread)
Gosh, the negotiations work. The HR doesnt have a set number for severance. you could negotiate (aka threaten) to get a better deal
They have a ceil though, cant go more than 4 months !!
I was given 2 months and 4 weeks for every year. I Came to DB and learnt that its a raw deal.
Went back and spoke to HR for an hour...haggling.. changed to 4 months and 2 weeks for every year (was there for 4 years) plus some weird bonus component
bonus component = 3.1415% of average of last 3 years bonus !!!
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 9:35AM
wadda douche
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 9:37AM
@9 you are an idiot. Your base point is true regarding wages, but the 'facts' are completely false, starting with there being no "warren county"
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 9:42AM
@10: Kenny et al aren't in this mess because they never got into it. I think it's a lousy Board at C but there is nothing a new Board can really do right now, is what I am saying. And the caliber of available management is seriously weak right now on the Street. They applauded John Mack and look where he got them.
I'm not trying to start an argument, I am just resigned to watching C list back and forth like it did 15+ years ago when Prince Al-Waleed first got involved. It is too big to rescue AND too big to fail.
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 9:45AM
We don't need no stinking oversight... http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/12/AR2008111202846_pf.html
Posted by Investorcluzo , Nov 13, 2008 9:46AM
ah, the joys of regulation...insurance companies may be better positioned than investment banks, but that doesn't mean their stock is cheap. the fact of the matter is that they have yet to face reality with regard to marks on their investment portfolios. if the broader markets (equity, fixed income, real estate) have all fallen 30+%, then the insurers are sitting on large black holes. this means a direct hit to capital (not earnings). because they are "long term" holders, they don't have to mark the “held to maturity” assets down except for those deemed to be "OTTI" (other than temporary impairment" for the uninitiated). but who gets to determine whether or not an asset deserves OTTI status?...yep, management. let the games continue.
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 9:51AM
there is a big hurry to push MS stock below 10$
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 10:21AM
Insurance companies pay into state reserve systems in case one of them fails. The company taking over the existing policies of a failed entity doesn't simply get the policies without the premiums. They get money from the pool to cover their losses.
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 10:36AM
WTF.....Bangalore?
(Reporting by Ajay Kamalakaran in Bangalore)
Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:02am EST (Reuters) - Citigroup Inc is in talks to buy U.S. regional lender Chevy Chase Bank FSB, which operates in the mid-Atlantic region, the Wall Street Journal said.
Citigroup is one of a number of bidders for Chevy Chase, and it isn't clear the New York bank will walk away with a deal, the paper said.
Chevy Chase Bank, based in Bethesda, Maryland, has more than 285 branches, mostly in the Washington metropolitan area.
Last month, Citigroup lost out in its bid for Wachovia Corp, which was acquired by Wells Fargo & Co.
Citigroup and Chevy Chase Bank could not be immediately reached for comment.
Posted by Anal_yst , Nov 13, 2008 10:40AM
@17/9
#9 can't copy/paste correctly, apparently. From the link he/she posted:
"A few years ago I was in Warren Assembly, in (Warren, County, (sic) [Macomb County,] Michigan. Two plants side by side make the Ford Focus and the Ford Expedition. As you drive from [Dearborn] to Warren County, every abandoned shopping center parking lot was full of vehicles. A friend of mine was then the HR Manager for Ford Truck and I asked him why they were still building. "
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 11:22AM
I never knew that Citi coveted the Clark Griswold and Fletch franchises that much.
Candygram...
--Calgary Schmooze
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 11:24AM
@18 No argument here. You have valid points. Even if you offered Jamie D the keys to the C kingdom he would say hell no right now. Bring back Phat Sandy. He can hire his daughter to run IB. Does Sandy have any other kids or grandkids? That structure is working real well for Sumner Neardeadstone.
With all B schools in this country you would think we could produce some decent managers. Where are they?
Our CEO are midgets. They should all be fired so they can make midget porn in LA.
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 11:29AM
@26: Bschools are training money managers and risk takers, not "managers". When I was at b-school, the only management courses I took were "mandatory" - "Foundations of Business" and "Managerial Processes". You took them your first year and got them out of the way. Then you took stats, accounting, financial analysis, etc.
Posted by guest , Nov 13, 2008 12:40PM
C is now sporting a market cap below RBC's.
Anyone want to place a bet on when it's worth less than Wachovia?
Exactly what banks are GS and C planning to buy with these cruddy market caps? GS better hope Zion's isn't in the mood to make an acquisition...
Posted by Headless Horseman , Nov 13, 2008 1:05PM
@9
So the "big three" are then stuck with a situation where the supply of the vehicles they've produced (might as well build them if your entire fucking cost structure is fixed thanks to the UAW) far outstrips the demand from the consumers. What to do? Take a Ford F-150 that should sell for about $24K (when compared to similar foreign product) and slap a $30K sticker price on it thereby enabling you to offer a $10K rebate in hopes that mindless, undereducated consumers will say "33% off! wow! I'm buying" because common knowledge is that Americans will buy dirty diapers if you just put them on "sale". Unintended consequences include:
- Fire sale pricing (buy one get one free, buy an Explorer at sticker and get a free Focus, 33% off, employee pricing for everyone including your dog etc.) creates a perception of undesirability and poor quality that is compounded by any actual quality issues (again, I tip my hat to fat, lazy, undereducated and overpaid union workers).
- This perception, in turn, decreases demand further...resulting in the declining market share and lack of profitability we're currently witnessing with domestic automotive manufacturers
Fortunately help is on the way. Since the Democrats have never met a labor union they didn't like, and they need that component of the electorate like a diabetic needs insulin....we'll no doubt soon see the "big three" (a twenty pound semi-retarded host animal) and consequentially the UAW (7000 pound mulit-headed, blood sucking parasite that would sooner kill said host than go on a diet) nursing at the teet of the federal government (the 20,000 pound parasite attached to virtually every pay check of anyone that's remotely productive). As part of the 60% of the electorate that actually pays taxes, I'm comforted to know my money will be hard at work to keep the UAW from working hard.
Posted by Anal_yst , Nov 13, 2008 1:15PM
@26/27
The basic tennants you pick up in intro management classes are often (with the benefit of hindsight) enough, however Mgmt loses sight of these basic ideas/concepts, and sh!t hits the fan.
Reality is, of course, far more complicated than a case study in Mgmt 101, but look around you and recall how many times some of these basic ideas seemed completely absent in the real (corporate) world.