The Wall StreetJournal lets us know this morning that Citi, ready to move on from last month's Wachovia-Wells upset, is on the prowl for new bank. But they won't tell us *which* bank, the scamps. It's unclear if the blind item is as a result of the "people familiar with the situation" not telling the Journal the name of the bank and they actually don't know or if this is just some sick game they're playing with us for sport ("the target's name couldn't be determined" could go a lot of ways). Anyway, here are the clues:
- regional bank
- overlaps geographically with Citigroup's retail-banking unit, which has its highest concentration of branches in the Northeast, California and Texas. A deal could be reached later this month, the people said.
Apparently "insiders" feel that a buy would "pump up morale at Citigroup," since an internal goal at the firm is to get so fat it can't tie its own shoes. Kind of cattily though completely awesomely, the J points out that "any acquisition by Citigroup could feel like a consolation prize, because none of the remaining sellers among U.S. banks comes close to Wachovia in size." Anyway, tell us who it is now.






Posted by guest , Nov 10, 2008 8:56AM
Banco Popular!
Posted by guest , Nov 10, 2008 8:57AM
This is the equvalent of a poker player being "on-tilt" after losing a bad hand...
And how does that usually work out?
Posted by guest , Nov 10, 2008 8:57AM
suntrust
Posted by guest , Nov 10, 2008 8:58AM
Comerica
Posted by Seaman Bodine , Nov 10, 2008 9:06AM
MS?
Posted by guest , Nov 10, 2008 9:07AM
PNC or VNB?
Posted by VOL IS KING , Nov 10, 2008 9:07AM
JP Morgan
Posted by guest , Nov 10, 2008 9:09AM
Capital One
Posted by guest , Nov 10, 2008 9:15AM
It will most likely be US Bancorp or PNC. They make the most sense.
Posted by Anal_yst , Nov 10, 2008 9:18AM
@ 9
Wouldn't US Bancorp be a bit pricey, considering the (relative) lack of distress? Similar story for PNC, no?
Posted by guest , Nov 10, 2008 9:19AM
9 They do make sense, but where's the branch overlap?
Posted by I am a Dude , Nov 10, 2008 9:20AM
Comerica
Posted by guest , Nov 10, 2008 9:20AM
SunTrust? Southeastern bank, based in Atlanta, overlaps, etc.
Posted by guest , Nov 10, 2008 9:23AM
Yeah, thats what they need to do, another merger. That place is a mess, the next lehman brothers
Posted by guest , Nov 10, 2008 9:25AM
NCB&T!
HQ in Charlotte, so they can say it is better than WB and justify racin' tickets. Name sounds like NCNB which will make them think they bought BAC. Only six branches, so they could actually get the integration done.
I'm telling ya, it is a moral booster all around!
Posted by guest , Nov 10, 2008 9:27AM
Why is everyone wasting time talking about which one makes sense? After all, this is C we're talking about.
Posted by guest , Nov 10, 2008 9:30AM
so fat it cant tie its own shoes - love it - wd bess
Posted by GinNTonic , Nov 10, 2008 9:35AM
I'll put $ on Comerica or Sovereign
Posted by guest , Nov 10, 2008 9:37AM
Top story on drudge :
Fed defies transparency objective and refuses to identify $2 tril in bank loans
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aatlky_cH.tY&refer=worldwide
We know that the Fed has been steadily lowering the collateral req'ts and they are accepting subprime MBS etc now. This guy has been keeping track of all the Fed lending
http://tinyurl.com/69jjwu
Posted by mrpink , Nov 10, 2008 9:42AM
Regions Financial? LOL
They can get Morgan Keegan, a PRE-EMININENT investment franchise on the cheap!!!!!
-mrp
Posted by guest , Nov 10, 2008 9:42AM
I'm pretty sure Citi has its eyes on a hedge fund, one that can dramatically boost its prestige and client base.
- Fake Tim Sykes
Posted by Seaman Bodine , Nov 10, 2008 9:43AM
dunno - but now that GS isn't getting vikram love, how far do you think it falls today?
Posted by guest , Nov 10, 2008 9:46AM
I heard they look to acquire TGFD - owning the biggest clown on the www would definitely be a morale booster!
Posted by mrpink , Nov 10, 2008 9:46AM
@21 - Buy a hedge fund to make up for Vikram's initial failure at his very own?
@22 - I say $10 bob barker!
-mrp
Posted by guest , Nov 10, 2008 9:51AM
they should acquire ford and gm, turn the dealer network into bank branches and use the entire personel database as a blacklist for all banking and mortgage products since they'll all be out of a job by springtime
Posted by guest , Nov 10, 2008 9:54AM
C buying a bank? Goldman Sachs.
Posted by guest , Nov 10, 2008 9:56AM
BB&T anyone?
Posted by guest , Nov 10, 2008 9:58AM
Amegy/ Zions.
Posted by guest , Nov 10, 2008 9:59AM
MOKE a retail bank? and why would the good ol' boys in memphuis want to sell?
Posted by guest , Nov 10, 2008 10:01AM
@24 But this particular hedge fund has been consistently beating the market consistently. One that provides leadership through example to the entire industry. Founded by a maverick who had the courage to face wall street at the age of 22, and restore calm and order in a time of crisis. I think we all know who that hedge fund might be.
- Fake Tim Sykes
Posted by mrpink , Nov 10, 2008 10:09AM
Ok, I totally made a spelling mistake in my first post. Grammar Police, forgive me.
-mrp
Posted by guest , Nov 10, 2008 10:10AM
bank of zamunda...
Posted by guest , Nov 10, 2008 10:12AM
Not Sovereign -- they got bought up by the Spaniards. How about Crestar?
Posted by guest , Nov 10, 2008 10:12AM
Going to be FULT or FHN
Posted by mrpink , Nov 10, 2008 10:13AM
29- They could buy Regions Financial and expand their footprint in the mid-south/southeast. Lotta cotton/pig farmers to sell Shit-i-bank products to! Imagine boasting that you're the largest commercial bank in Booneville, MS! The possibilities are endless!
-mrp
Posted by guest , Nov 10, 2008 10:18AM
@31 Uhh, you SHOULD be sorry...
- Grammar Gestapo
Posted by guest , Nov 10, 2008 10:19AM
forget regional banks, they want insurance again, and who better than AIG? hasn't the universal bank model proven so effective?
Posted by Anal_yst , Nov 10, 2008 10:21AM
@ 14/16
Bingo
Posted by Seaman Bodine , Nov 10, 2008 10:22AM
it's all a ploy to prop up the banks enough, and then John Paulson will file a lawsuit against the treasury for allowing banks to buy up an endless supply of write offs
http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/11/10/questions-about-a-tax-change-easing-bank-mergers/
and then he'll be really phat
Posted by guest , Nov 10, 2008 10:30AM
FULT is my bet...they have been trying to offload that dog for years
Posted by guest , Nov 10, 2008 10:36AM
Citizens Bank. RBS has it on selling block. Good fit for C since Citizens has big New England footprint.
Posted by guest , Nov 10, 2008 10:39AM
41 Good call. Also in PA, NJ from Citizen's acquisition of Mellon's retail franchise some years ago.
Posted by guest , Nov 10, 2008 10:58AM
@23 = asswipe
TOGFD
Posted by guest , Nov 10, 2008 10:59AM
PEOPLES, great NE footprint, non-toxic balance sheet
Posted by guest , Nov 10, 2008 11:02AM
44 Never could understand the logic of Peoples. True, disciplined operation and great business in CT, but the bulk of it is in northern New England, where growth is just non existant.
Posted by guest , Nov 10, 2008 11:09AM
Vikram Pandit, a former MS guy that sold Old Lane Partners to C at the right time. Now you have board members like Weill & Rubin that will not admit that they created a dysfunctional firm so they promote Vik to CEO since he drinks the Chiti bank Kool-Aid.
Forget about buying a bank. Fire Vikram and the board to make way for CEO Meredith Whitney, who is by the way the #39 biatch to watch accordign to the WSJ.
Citi might as well take a nap, a dirt nap, if they don't wake up and make some major changes to the board, senior management and most importatnly to a failed business model. They can keep cutting the work force by 10% until the cows come home, but until they change the direction of the firm it will all be for nothing.
Posted by guest , Nov 10, 2008 11:13AM
KeyCorp
Posted by guest , Nov 10, 2008 11:51AM
CITI IS A PILLAR OF STRENGTH PEOPLE....
GOLDMAN IS THE NEXT LEHMAN!!!!!!MS THE NEXT GOLDMAN.....
Posted by guest , Nov 10, 2008 12:15PM
@46
You mean the business model everyone else is adopting?
Whitney is hack making a living on fear journalism. The longer the recession the longer her careet will be.
Posted by Investorcluzo , Nov 10, 2008 12:39PM
the numbers don't lie...
c: mkt cap ~$66bn, 0.70x bvps, 09 p/e - 8.1x
usb: $51bn, 2.60x, 13.4x - that deal would dilute shareholders and why would us bancorp want to get stuck with c's crappy assets?
cma: $4bn, 0.72x, 11.5x - better deal, doesn't dilute shareholders as much, decent us franchise and the ceo knows banking much better than vick.
cof: $14bn, 0.54x, 8.6x - best deal, but you have to worry about the old greenpoint business (that was allegedly shut down). north fork was a well run bank, but kanas (the ceo) left and is about to start a bank backed by wilbur ross. the credit card ops cof and c together would rival bofa.
bottom line, the "better" regionals trade at premium multiples to c. despite the size differential (which minimizes the dilutive effect on c, it's still a bad trade. if you're a director at one of the shops that isn't facing dire straights, why would you sell instead buy?
Posted by guest , Nov 10, 2008 12:45PM
who the fuck is TOGFD?
Posted by guest , Nov 10, 2008 1:45PM
Bank of Tibet
Posted by guest , Nov 10, 2008 2:00PM
Binghamton Savings Bank
Posted by TheUnrepentantGunner , Nov 10, 2008 2:23PM
i hear Franklin Bank (FBTX) can be had on the cheap...
Posted by Investorcluzo , Nov 10, 2008 2:37PM
cheap for a reason...not to mention, "prosperity" took it over last week after they went bk
Posted by guest , Nov 10, 2008 2:56PM
Can Someone Say FBOP Corporation. It has all the markets the mystery bank indicates. FBOP operates banks in Illinois, California, Texas and Arizona.
Posted by TheUnrepentantGunner , Nov 10, 2008 3:09PM
well investorcluzo, you have to be a spoilsport dont you ;)
Posted by guest , Nov 10, 2008 3:21PM
@51 - TOGFD = The Other Guy From Delaware. Where the fuck have you been dweeb?
The Other Guy from Delaware
Posted by Investorcluzo , Nov 10, 2008 3:56PM
@unrepentant - sorry bro...
Posted by guest , Nov 10, 2008 4:18PM
BOA or JPM or maybe even GS or MS?
Posted by guest , Nov 10, 2008 4:22PM
#54 - Is that The Franklin National Bank?
Posted by guest , Nov 10, 2008 9:24PM
PVTB
A swift kick in the nuts to JP Morgan in the Midwest.
Posted by guest , Nov 14, 2008 12:43PM
Huntington National Bank?
Posted by guest , Nov 18, 2008 4:06PM
chevy chase!
Posted by guest , Nov 18, 2008 4:09PM
chevy chase!
Posted by guest , Nov 19, 2008 3:12PM
GFG
Guaranty Financial Group Inc.
The Company’s primary operating entities are Guaranty Bank and Guaranty Insurance Services, Inc.
The Company operates in four business segments: commercial banking, retail banking, insurance agency, and treasury.
Network of over 150 bank branches located in Texas and California.
The insurance agency operates through 17 offices located in both Texas and California.
Posted by guest , Nov 19, 2008 3:16PM
GFG
Guaranty Financial Group Inc.
The Company’s primary operating entities are Guaranty Bank and Guaranty Insurance Services, Inc.
The Company operates in four business segments: commercial banking, retail banking, insurance agency, and treasury.
Network of over 150 bank branches located in Texas and California.
The insurance agency operates through 17 offices located in both Texas and California.