Picture 154.pngThe Wall StreetJournal lets us know this morning that Citi, ready to move on from last month’s Wachovia-Wells upset, is on the prowl for new bank. But they won’t tell us *which* bank, the scamps. It’s unclear if the blind item is as a result of the “people familiar with the situation” not telling the Journal the name of the bank and they actually don’t know or if this is just some sick game they’re playing with us for sport (“the target’s name couldn’t be determined” could go a lot of ways). Anyway, here are the clues:
- regional bank
- overlaps geographically with Citigroup’s retail-banking unit, which has its highest concentration of branches in the Northeast, California and Texas. A deal could be reached later this month, the people said.
Apparently “insiders” feel that a buy would “pump up morale at Citigroup,” since an internal goal at the firm is to get so fat it can’t tie its own shoes. Kind of cattily though completely awesomely, the J points out that “any acquisition by Citigroup could feel like a consolation prize, because none of the remaining sellers among U.S. banks comes close to Wachovia in size.” Anyway, tell us who it is now.

Comments (67)

  1. Posted by guest | November 10, 2008 at 8:56 AM

    Banco Popular!

  2. Posted by guest | November 10, 2008 at 8:57 AM

    This is the equvalent of a poker player being “on-tilt” after losing a bad hand…
    And how does that usually work out?

  3. Posted by guest | November 10, 2008 at 8:57 AM

    suntrust

  4. Posted by guest | November 10, 2008 at 8:58 AM

    Comerica

  5. Posted by Seaman Bodine | November 10, 2008 at 9:06 AM

    MS?

  6. Posted by guest | November 10, 2008 at 9:07 AM

    PNC or VNB?

  7. Posted by VOL IS KING | November 10, 2008 at 9:07 AM

    JP Morgan

  8. Posted by guest | November 10, 2008 at 9:09 AM

    Capital One

  9. Posted by guest | November 10, 2008 at 9:15 AM

    It will most likely be US Bancorp or PNC. They make the most sense.

  10. Posted by Anal_yst | November 10, 2008 at 9:18 AM

    @ 9
    Wouldn’t US Bancorp be a bit pricey, considering the (relative) lack of distress? Similar story for PNC, no?

  11. Posted by guest | November 10, 2008 at 9:19 AM

    9 They do make sense, but where’s the branch overlap?

  12. Posted by I am a Dude | November 10, 2008 at 9:20 AM

    Comerica

  13. Posted by guest | November 10, 2008 at 9:20 AM

    SunTrust? Southeastern bank, based in Atlanta, overlaps, etc.

  14. Posted by guest | November 10, 2008 at 9:23 AM

    Yeah, thats what they need to do, another merger. That place is a mess, the next lehman brothers

  15. Posted by guest | November 10, 2008 at 9:25 AM

    NCB&T!
    HQ in Charlotte, so they can say it is better than WB and justify racin’ tickets. Name sounds like NCNB which will make them think they bought BAC. Only six branches, so they could actually get the integration done.
    I’m telling ya, it is a moral booster all around!

  16. Posted by guest | November 10, 2008 at 9:27 AM

    Why is everyone wasting time talking about which one makes sense? After all, this is C we’re talking about.

  17. Posted by guest | November 10, 2008 at 9:30 AM

    so fat it cant tie its own shoes – love it – wd bess

  18. Posted by GinNTonic | November 10, 2008 at 9:35 AM

    I’ll put $ on Comerica or Sovereign

  19. Posted by guest | November 10, 2008 at 9:37 AM

    Top story on drudge :
    Fed defies transparency objective and refuses to identify $2 tril in bank loans
    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aatlky_cH.tY&refer=worldwide
    We know that the Fed has been steadily lowering the collateral req’ts and they are accepting subprime MBS etc now. This guy has been keeping track of all the Fed lending
    http://tinyurl.com/69jjwu

  20. Posted by mrpink | November 10, 2008 at 9:42 AM

    Regions Financial? LOL
    They can get Morgan Keegan, a PRE-EMININENT investment franchise on the cheap!!!!!
    -mrp

  21. Posted by guest | November 10, 2008 at 9:42 AM

    I’m pretty sure Citi has its eyes on a hedge fund, one that can dramatically boost its prestige and client base.
    - Fake Tim Sykes

  22. Posted by Seaman Bodine | November 10, 2008 at 9:43 AM

    dunno – but now that GS isn’t getting vikram love, how far do you think it falls today?

  23. Posted by guest | November 10, 2008 at 9:46 AM

    I heard they look to acquire TGFD – owning the biggest clown on the www would definitely be a morale booster!

  24. Posted by mrpink | November 10, 2008 at 9:46 AM

    @21 – Buy a hedge fund to make up for Vikram’s initial failure at his very own?
    @22 – I say $10 bob barker!
    -mrp

  25. Posted by guest | November 10, 2008 at 9:51 AM

    they should acquire ford and gm, turn the dealer network into bank branches and use the entire personel database as a blacklist for all banking and mortgage products since they’ll all be out of a job by springtime

  26. Posted by guest | November 10, 2008 at 9:54 AM

    C buying a bank? Goldman Sachs.

  27. Posted by guest | November 10, 2008 at 9:56 AM

    BB&T anyone?

  28. Posted by guest | November 10, 2008 at 9:58 AM

    Amegy/ Zions.

  29. Posted by guest | November 10, 2008 at 9:59 AM

    MOKE a retail bank? and why would the good ol’ boys in memphuis want to sell?

  30. Posted by guest | November 10, 2008 at 10:01 AM

    @24 But this particular hedge fund has been consistently beating the market consistently. One that provides leadership through example to the entire industry. Founded by a maverick who had the courage to face wall street at the age of 22, and restore calm and order in a time of crisis. I think we all know who that hedge fund might be.
    - Fake Tim Sykes

  31. Posted by mrpink | November 10, 2008 at 10:09 AM

    Ok, I totally made a spelling mistake in my first post. Grammar Police, forgive me.
    -mrp

  32. Posted by guest | November 10, 2008 at 10:10 AM

    bank of zamunda…

  33. Posted by guest | November 10, 2008 at 10:12 AM

    Not Sovereign — they got bought up by the Spaniards. How about Crestar?

  34. Posted by guest | November 10, 2008 at 10:12 AM

    Going to be FULT or FHN

  35. Posted by mrpink | November 10, 2008 at 10:13 AM

    29- They could buy Regions Financial and expand their footprint in the mid-south/southeast. Lotta cotton/pig farmers to sell Shit-i-bank products to! Imagine boasting that you’re the largest commercial bank in Booneville, MS! The possibilities are endless!
    -mrp

  36. Posted by guest | November 10, 2008 at 10:18 AM

    @31 Uhh, you SHOULD be sorry…
    - Grammar Gestapo

  37. Posted by guest | November 10, 2008 at 10:19 AM

    forget regional banks, they want insurance again, and who better than AIG? hasn’t the universal bank model proven so effective?

  38. Posted by Anal_yst | November 10, 2008 at 10:21 AM

    @ 14/16
    Bingo

  39. Posted by Seaman Bodine | November 10, 2008 at 10:22 AM

    it’s all a ploy to prop up the banks enough, and then John Paulson will file a lawsuit against the treasury for allowing banks to buy up an endless supply of write offs
    http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/11/10/questions-about-a-tax-change-easing-bank-mergers/
    and then he’ll be really phat

  40. Posted by guest | November 10, 2008 at 10:30 AM

    FULT is my bet…they have been trying to offload that dog for years

  41. Posted by guest | November 10, 2008 at 10:36 AM

    Citizens Bank. RBS has it on selling block. Good fit for C since Citizens has big New England footprint.

  42. Posted by guest | November 10, 2008 at 10:39 AM

    41 Good call. Also in PA, NJ from Citizen’s acquisition of Mellon’s retail franchise some years ago.

  43. Posted by guest | November 10, 2008 at 10:58 AM

    @23 = asswipe
    TOGFD

  44. Posted by guest | November 10, 2008 at 10:59 AM

    PEOPLES, great NE footprint, non-toxic balance sheet

  45. Posted by guest | November 10, 2008 at 11:02 AM

    44 Never could understand the logic of Peoples. True, disciplined operation and great business in CT, but the bulk of it is in northern New England, where growth is just non existant.

  46. Posted by guest | November 10, 2008 at 11:09 AM

    Vikram Pandit, a former MS guy that sold Old Lane Partners to C at the right time. Now you have board members like Weill & Rubin that will not admit that they created a dysfunctional firm so they promote Vik to CEO since he drinks the Chiti bank Kool-Aid.
    Forget about buying a bank. Fire Vikram and the board to make way for CEO Meredith Whitney, who is by the way the #39 biatch to watch accordign to the WSJ.
    Citi might as well take a nap, a dirt nap, if they don’t wake up and make some major changes to the board, senior management and most importatnly to a failed business model. They can keep cutting the work force by 10% until the cows come home, but until they change the direction of the firm it will all be for nothing.

  47. Posted by guest | November 10, 2008 at 11:13 AM

    KeyCorp

  48. Posted by guest | November 10, 2008 at 11:51 AM

    CITI IS A PILLAR OF STRENGTH PEOPLE….
    GOLDMAN IS THE NEXT LEHMAN!!!!!!MS THE NEXT GOLDMAN…..

  49. Posted by guest | November 10, 2008 at 12:15 PM

    @46
    You mean the business model everyone else is adopting?
    Whitney is hack making a living on fear journalism. The longer the recession the longer her careet will be.

  50. Posted by Investorcluzo | November 10, 2008 at 12:39 PM

    the numbers don’t lie…
    c: mkt cap ~$66bn, 0.70x bvps, 09 p/e – 8.1x
    usb: $51bn, 2.60x, 13.4x – that deal would dilute shareholders and why would us bancorp want to get stuck with c’s crappy assets?
    cma: $4bn, 0.72x, 11.5x – better deal, doesn’t dilute shareholders as much, decent us franchise and the ceo knows banking much better than vick.
    cof: $14bn, 0.54x, 8.6x – best deal, but you have to worry about the old greenpoint business (that was allegedly shut down). north fork was a well run bank, but kanas (the ceo) left and is about to start a bank backed by wilbur ross. the credit card ops cof and c together would rival bofa.
    bottom line, the “better” regionals trade at premium multiples to c. despite the size differential (which minimizes the dilutive effect on c, it’s still a bad trade. if you’re a director at one of the shops that isn’t facing dire straights, why would you sell instead buy?

  51. Posted by guest | November 10, 2008 at 12:45 PM

    who the fuck is TOGFD?

  52. Posted by guest | November 10, 2008 at 1:45 PM

    Bank of Tibet

  53. Posted by guest | November 10, 2008 at 2:00 PM

    Binghamton Savings Bank

  54. Posted by TheUnrepentantGunner | November 10, 2008 at 2:23 PM

    i hear Franklin Bank (FBTX) can be had on the cheap…

  55. Posted by Investorcluzo | November 10, 2008 at 2:37 PM

    cheap for a reason…not to mention, “prosperity” took it over last week after they went bk

  56. Posted by guest | November 10, 2008 at 2:56 PM

    Can Someone Say FBOP Corporation. It has all the markets the mystery bank indicates. FBOP operates banks in Illinois, California, Texas and Arizona.

  57. Posted by TheUnrepentantGunner | November 10, 2008 at 3:09 PM

    well investorcluzo, you have to be a spoilsport dont you ;)

  58. Posted by guest | November 10, 2008 at 3:21 PM

    @51 – TOGFD = The Other Guy From Delaware. Where the fuck have you been dweeb?
    The Other Guy from Delaware

  59. Posted by Investorcluzo | November 10, 2008 at 3:56 PM

    @unrepentant – sorry bro…

  60. Posted by guest | November 10, 2008 at 4:18 PM

    BOA or JPM or maybe even GS or MS?

  61. Posted by guest | November 10, 2008 at 4:22 PM

    #54 – Is that The Franklin National Bank?

  62. Posted by guest | November 10, 2008 at 9:24 PM

    PVTB
    A swift kick in the nuts to JP Morgan in the Midwest.

  63. Posted by guest | November 14, 2008 at 12:43 PM

    Huntington National Bank?

  64. Posted by guest | November 18, 2008 at 4:06 PM

    chevy chase!

  65. Posted by guest | November 18, 2008 at 4:09 PM

    chevy chase!

  66. Posted by guest | November 19, 2008 at 3:12 PM

    GFG
    Guaranty Financial Group Inc.
    The Company’s primary operating entities are Guaranty Bank and Guaranty Insurance Services, Inc.
    The Company operates in four business segments: commercial banking, retail banking, insurance agency, and treasury.
    Network of over 150 bank branches located in Texas and California.
    The insurance agency operates through 17 offices located in both Texas and California.

  67. Posted by guest | November 19, 2008 at 3:16 PM

    GFG
    Guaranty Financial Group Inc.
    The Company’s primary operating entities are Guaranty Bank and Guaranty Insurance Services, Inc.
    The Company operates in four business segments: commercial banking, retail banking, insurance agency, and treasury.
    Network of over 150 bank branches located in Texas and California.
    The insurance agency operates through 17 offices located in both Texas and California.

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