• 11 Dec 2008 at 9:16 AM

Layoffs Watch ’08: MER

John Thain has been canned for the suggestion that he receive a $10 million bonus this year. Apparently his retraction was too little, too late. Kidding! Thain’s going to be fine. The same can sadly not be said for equity research. Cuts began there around 8:30 this morning.

Comments (64)

  1. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 9:25 AM

    Funny

  2. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 9:26 AM

    They should start with the two jackanapes on Squawk this morning.

  3. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 9:27 AM

    any word on S&T?

  4. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 9:28 AM

    why do i always have to take a dump right before the open? it’s as reliable as putting on ski boots-

  5. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 9:29 AM

    Can someone at ML provide us with the degree of clopticism of the individual doing the dirty work?

  6. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 9:29 AM

    Just Merrill equity research? Not B of A as well? Know a couple of B of A analysts who are quaking in their shoes, knowing their MER counterparts are higher-rated on II

  7. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 9:31 AM

    Anyone have the final numbers on first year Merrill CEOs?

  8. Posted by Clown Capital | December 11, 2008 at 9:38 AM

    @6
    True indeed.
    Bess,
    Let’s get some statisitics on how many BofA’ers are ousted by Merrill Lynch transplants…

  9. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 9:40 AM

    Wow Beth…spreading more rumors are you? You should be ashamed of yourself (you vicious animal liar). I mean, really, this is just irresponsible reporting! I truly expect that a rag called Dealbreaker would actually check the facts and report the truth! Seriously, you should really take a cue from Jon Stuart and The Colbert Report, now, those are REAL reporters (and I’m sure Cliff Asness agrees)!
    Kisses,
    Your friends at FINalternativesolutions

  10. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 9:40 AM

    and whether wideclops sightings induce bowel movements. prarie doggin over here-

  11. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 9:46 AM

    Kudos on making front page of the Post’s business section Beth.
    I bet traffic is up today, don’t forget to try to extract some additional funds from your advertisers.

  12. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 9:48 AM

    @9 go stand by a pole where we can all line up and donkey punch you. Go back to Yahoo groups, there awaiting your return.

  13. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 9:50 AM

    Can they get rid of those two idiots on CNBC this morning?

  14. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 9:51 AM

    who is beth?

  15. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 9:52 AM

    Who cares about Merrill? Let’s talk about Cliff Asness!

  16. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 9:52 AM

    @12 – sarcasm-detector set on high today?

  17. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 9:52 AM

    @11 – link for the post article?

  18. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 9:53 AM

    Dear 12,
    Clearly you aren’t good at understanding sarcasm. Get a clue! And be a man (or woman) and sign your post. Darling Beth knows exactly who I am.

  19. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 9:54 AM
  20. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 9:55 AM

    http://www.nypost.com/seven/12112008/business/hedger_asness_flames_blog_over_layoff_it_143683.htm
    Hedge-fund manager Cliff Asness seems to have gotten himself entangled in a nasty and embarrassing online brawl that suggests he’s losing more than just his investors’ money.
    The fight started when Asness – or someone claiming to be him – posted an angry and lengthy rebuke to an item on Wall Street gossip blog Dealbreaker.com about layoffs at AQR Capital, his Greenwich, Conn., firm.
    “This is Cliff Asness (for real, if you’ve read anything by me you can probably tell from the below),” began the rant.
    It went on to slam the people who post comments on the site as “bitter former employees,” and “little men who get off on anonymous mendacity on the internet [sic].”
    It also attacked Dealbreaker.com Editor-in-Chief Bess Levin – incorrectly referred to as “Beth Levin” – as being a “vicious animal” liar.
    Yesterday, Levin decided to hit back with a post that mockingly offered Asness some advice about how to handle snarky blog posts.
    “The first [route], which most travel, is to ignore it. You oversee billions of dollars – YOU SHOULD BE ABOVE THIS,” the post chides.
    Assuming the rant is Asness’ – and Levin said she strongly believes it is – the flare-up could be a blow to the hedge-fund manager’s already rusty reputation.
    “You have to wonder why is he losing it in this site if everything’s OK [at his firm],” Levin told The Post.
    Asness, a normally outspoken 42-year-old hedge-fund manager, declined to comment for this article. He also declined to confirm or deny whether he was responsible for the embarrassing missive.

  21. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 9:59 AM

    @6
    They are integrating BofA into Merrill as it has the superior research team. Wouldn’t be surprised if more of BofAs guys are let go.

  22. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 9:59 AM

    ” Dealbreaker.com Editor-in-Chief Bess Levin ”
    So your the EIC Beth?
    Thought that was EP.

  23. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 10:00 AM
  24. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 10:01 AM

    all these layoffs before Christmas are brutal.

  25. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 10:03 AM

    @24
    Thought there was an unspoken rule about no laying off right before christmas.

  26. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 10:04 AM

    Bess, what about Donny Deutsch playing home wrecker and hooking up with then married, Lisa Sandler (wife of Hedge Fund Mogul Andrew Sandler, whose father founded Sandler Capital Mgt)?

  27. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 10:06 AM

    A lot of people who didn’t know that Asness is an assclown now do because of his foolish decision to “defend the good people” of his firm. Given this lack of judgment, I wouldn’t let Asness walk my dog, much less manage my money with his black box.

  28. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 10:08 AM

    About Us
    DealBreaker is an online business tabloid and Wall Street gossip site that covers the personalities and culture that shape the financial industry, offering original commentary, news and entertainment. DealBreaker is published by Breaking Media, which also publishes AboveTheLaw.com and Fashionista.com.
    Publisher
    David Minkin
    Editor in Chief
    Bess Levin

  29. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 10:09 AM

    @25
    Typically no but equity research needs to be integrated before the merger is completed. Can’t have 2 ratings on the same stock..
    That’s why heads are rolling in research first.

  30. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 10:10 AM

    Ironic — I was meeting a friend for lunch down on Wall Street yesterday and we walked past 10 Hanover Square where Kidder Peabody used to be, and I told him how ugly the bloodbath was in equity research when PaineWebber bought it — and then again when UBS bought PaineWebber, and again when UBS decided to be run by idiots, and again when …
    Plus ca change…

  31. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 10:15 AM

    Kenny Smith was seen at 4 World Financial this morning… He told the ML research team to pack their bags, cause they’re going fishing.

  32. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 10:15 AM

    27 as if you have enough to meet his minimum

  33. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 10:16 AM

    Bonuses at MER were moved to the end of this year instead of end of January.
    Therefore, they are laying off staff now so that they do not have to pay them bonuses in 2 weeks…
    Also there were no base comp raises last year.
    So, with the low base MER analysts are making, they are really getting scammed.
    It’s like they worked the whole year for less than a GM worker.
    In the mean time the MER corporate office is handing out multi-million dollar bonuses to back-office paper pushers. They made sure their bonuses were not cut.
    It’s pretty disgusting

  34. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 10:18 AM

    6, 8 & 21…they already decimated BoA back around bonus time last year: http://online.wsj.com/public/article_print/SB120795699896909269.html
    …skeleton staff already on BoAs side…probably just trimming the fat off of MERs side now…

  35. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 10:27 AM

    I don’t wish layoffs for ANYONE, especially at this time, but I must admit… I hope B of A keeps their peeps.

  36. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 10:32 AM

    @34
    MER has been laying off analysts several times this year already. There are rows of empty cubicles over there. Not much fat left.
    Now they are cutting bones and limbs: they are dropping coverage on entire industries.
    But they don’t care because all 3 (2 MER and 1 BofA) DORs kept their jobs: they made sure of that.
    The management is getting rid of the little people so that they can pay themselves their big fat bonuses like any other year.

  37. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 10:32 AM

    34 – agreed. BofA is a shell right now, many of the bankers, traders, etc. were layed off in the winter and spring of 2008.

  38. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 10:41 AM

    @12 – last time I checked, the proper contraction for ‘they are’ is ‘they’re’, not ‘there’, which is a location. boob.

  39. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 10:42 AM

    @36, all I can say is YUP…but when did you start thinking this wasn’t a pyramid scheme?

  40. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 10:43 AM

    34 & 37 – you don’t know what you’re talking about

  41. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 10:43 AM

    @ 33
    So go get a job in the back-office and quit your complaining! Or are you an eq. research analyst that just puts a buy rating on every stock to maintain client relationships. eq. research = a joke anyways
    turd

  42. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 10:49 AM

    Oh, the ignominy! The torture at GS will now continue another 5 years! Assuming you survive the layoffs, of course.
    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=anbeZQFUGznM&refer=home

  43. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 10:50 AM

    @24
    It WAS an old Irish Catholic firm. Not sure howmany people in MER EQ reseach practice the pagan holiday.

  44. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 10:51 AM

    @24
    It WAS an old Irish Catholic firm. Not sure howmany people in MER EQ reseach practice the pagan holiday.

  45. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 10:52 AM

    @24
    It WAS an old Irish Catholic firm. Not sure howmany people in MER EQ reseach practice the pagan holiday.

  46. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 10:54 AM

    Anyone have any info they care to share in regards to these layoffs? What research analysts have been let go so far? Any big names?

  47. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 11:04 AM

    @46 John Olson was let go for issuing a sell rating on LEH.

  48. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 11:15 AM

    How long until we see:
    Layoff Watch ’08: DealBreaker

  49. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 11:17 AM

    @48- hi cliff asness

  50. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 11:42 AM

    God Bless Andy Tim

  51. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 11:44 AM

    is this for MER in New York only, or London as well?

  52. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 11:47 AM

    48-
    considering they were actively looking for people about a month or so ago (and maybe still are?) and that they are featured in the post today probably not anytime real soon.

  53. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 12:08 PM

    What about CMBS at Merrill?

  54. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 12:28 PM

    What about Research at BofA? Shouldn’t they be laying off there, too at the same time?

  55. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 12:51 PM

    About 1/3 of Merrill’s Research department laid off so far today

  56. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 1:10 PM

    54 – yes, it’s happening today real time

  57. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 1:50 PM

    99.1% of contract workers were let go yesterday in Legal and Compliance. CS employs a lot of contractors. Great group to work with but they could have easily cut some of the dead weight and would have been much better off going forward. There are some lifers in the back office who are beyond inefficient. I’ll name names if you want me to.

  58. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 1:57 PM

    #57 did you mean to post in the CS Layoff watch comment section? This is MER’s…

  59. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 2:01 PM

    Any updates? What are the numbers like on BAC’s side?

  60. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 3:18 PM

    any word on FIG?

  61. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 3:30 PM

    What about CMBS at Merrill?

  62. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 3:39 PM

    @61
    Only equity research layoffs are occurring today

  63. Posted by Suits | December 11, 2008 at 5:18 PM

    Hatchet fell at BofA research today, got about 9 “coverage in transition” notes.

  64. Posted by guest | December 11, 2008 at 9:01 PM

    was on the BAC side today. Most of my Energy department hacked. They slashed about 2/3 of all publishing analysts. Severance pretty good, 2 weeks/yr plus 90 days.
    THey told me that my juniors would be canned next Wednesday. Severance only 4 weeks + 2 weeks/yr, plus 25% of your annual bonus. They said of the 70 or so juniors, they only expect to keep 20 or so. Good times.

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