If I know fishing equipment salesmen, they must have sold these Madoffs at least $50-100K worth of fishing gear. You can sneeze $10K in fly fishing, even if your not trying to look impressive. I'm sure they were trying to look impressive. They must have bought tons of rods and stuff. The sales guy must have had a field day. Fishing Gear. Waders. Asshats. At least that's what I bought.
Andy looks like a real outdoorsman. See how he is able to mostly supress the expression of disgust as the slippery beast flicks a drop of water on his sunglasses? You can't teach that sh*t.
What the h£ll? The Spode chinaware salesman has turned into a Ronco Pocket Pop-o-Matic Fisherman flogger? There's no place for late-night infomercials here. Go to CNBC.
the SEC took all their NYC interns on a field trip to the Madoff offices in 2000. to show how a well run trading/inv firm operates with the righ control, compliance, risk, etc.
this is a true story. they only went to the 17th floor. too bad they didnt get to peek at 18. maybe one of the interns would have smelled something
I have no first hand experience, however, those who do say the "boys" are spoiled brats and no one is surprised that they turned in their father to save their necks and whatever else remains. Anyone with first hand experience dealing with them?
22 It appears that they turned in their father on advice of counsel, not because they're spoiled brats. If in fact they had nothing to do with the crime, that was their best course of action.
Gotta give Bernie props for being a good father, he takes his sons fishing, buys them cool clothes, oh and takes the blame for the scam. "Turn me in boys, it'll look better for you."
It's possible that this "wind-up" was put in place as a contingency plan long in advance, with the sons' names carefully kept off any paper or electronic trail, and the appearance maintained even to Madoff staff that the sons had no direct involvement with the "asset management" operation, with the idea that if and when "the gig was up", dad would take the fall alone.
While it's not impossible for one man to pull off something like this, especially given the use of a tiny CPA firm that needed the business and perhaps wouldn't even imagine itself qualified to question the activities of the great Madoff, I have serious doubts that someone Bernie's age could have pulled it off alone. It would require very high level computer programming expertise, and I haven't seen any suggestion that Bernie possessed any more computer expertise than the average 70 year old, or seen any hint of professional or educational experience during which he could have acquired it.
Definitly the "Poison Pill" strategy at work here; they probably set this When The Gig Is Up course of action on one of those fishing trips, over a campfire and a few good scotches. All milked it for as long as they possibly could, knowing the Jews would be at the gates looking for their money once shitty market hit the fan.
Andy Madoff is the owner of a company that manufactures fly fishing equipment. He fly fishes often. I doubt that some salesman saw him coming. All reports indicate the sons were unaware of their father's wrongdoing. Why must people post cruel comments about the sons?
I have known the sons for a long time. Very hard to believe they knew. Simply inconsistent with the way they think and lead their lives. I don't believe they could have lived with the knowledge.
If father could deceive so many for so long, he may have had many secrets from his sons. That seems to be a pattern with lots of criminals and their families.
This guy looks like a complete ___ (fill in the blank with your choice of noun) holding the fish. He probably is used to holding something along the lines of tube steak.
This guy looks like a complete ___ (fill in the blank with your choice of noun) holding the fish. He probably is used to holding something along the lines of tube steak.
Posted by guest , Dec 16, 2008 9:20AM
smells
Posted by guest , Dec 16, 2008 9:22AM
If I know fishing equipment salesmen, they must have sold these Madoffs at least $50-100K worth of fishing gear. You can sneeze $10K in fly fishing, even if your not trying to look impressive. I'm sure they were trying to look impressive. They must have bought tons of rods and stuff. The sales guy must have had a field day. Fishing Gear. Waders. Asshats. At least that's what I bought.
Posted by guest , Dec 16, 2008 9:24AM
Andy looks like a real outdoorsman. See how he is able to mostly supress the expression of disgust as the slippery beast flicks a drop of water on his sunglasses? You can't teach that sh*t.
Posted by guest , Dec 16, 2008 9:26AM
were his sons in on the fraud?
Posted by guest , Dec 16, 2008 9:28AM
@4 obviously not, they're clearly only fisherman
Posted by guest , Dec 16, 2008 9:29AM
What the h£ll? The Spode chinaware salesman has turned into a Ronco Pocket Pop-o-Matic Fisherman flogger? There's no place for late-night infomercials here. Go to CNBC.
Posted by guest , Dec 16, 2008 9:31AM
@4 His sons turned him in.
Posted by guest , Dec 16, 2008 9:39AM
These may be the last family outing photos for this family.
Posted by I am a Dude , Dec 16, 2008 9:41AM
the SEC took all their NYC interns on a field trip to the Madoff offices in 2000. to show how a well run trading/inv firm operates with the righ control, compliance, risk, etc.
this is a true story. they only went to the 17th floor. too bad they didnt get to peek at 18. maybe one of the interns would have smelled something
Posted by guest , Dec 16, 2008 9:48AM
His sons are cute.
Posted by guest , Dec 16, 2008 9:49AM
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&sid=aqfr8yxohYEA&refer=home
Posted by guest , Dec 16, 2008 9:55AM
I guess they took their investors hook. line and sinker.
Sorry, couldn't help myself.
Posted by guest , Dec 16, 2008 9:57AM
Boy, they sure bought a lot of fishing equiptment
Posted by guest , Dec 16, 2008 10:03AM
so, can you spend alot of money on fishing stuff if you want? What about if you run into the right salesman?
Posted by guest , Dec 16, 2008 10:04AM
@10 unless you're a chick, leave now.
Posted by guest , Dec 16, 2008 10:05AM
somethin' fishy....
Posted by guest , Dec 16, 2008 10:07AM
All y'alls must be city folk! Have you never seen fisherman and/or fishing equipment before? I grew up in Minnesota before heading to NYC...
Posted by guest , Dec 16, 2008 10:17AM
nice turtle neck, fageeeeeeeeettttt
Posted by guest , Dec 16, 2008 10:18AM
The right salesman would see him coming from a mile away. He sure got him good. fishing gear is expensive.
Posted by guest , Dec 16, 2008 10:31AM
@9 - do you have a source link for that?
Posted by guest , Dec 16, 2008 10:38AM
http://www.nantucketindependent.com/news/2008/0618/property_transfers/050.html Nice house Mark FISHING FOR $$$$$$$ Sure paid all cash june 08 GREAT TIME TO MOVE SOME CASH DB When did you buy ABEL CO. and set up Madoff Energy DB
Posted by guest , Dec 16, 2008 11:15AM
I have no first hand experience, however, those who do say the "boys" are spoiled brats and no one is surprised that they turned in their father to save their necks and whatever else remains. Anyone with first hand experience dealing with them?
Posted by guest , Dec 16, 2008 11:20AM
22 It appears that they turned in their father on advice of counsel, not because they're spoiled brats. If in fact they had nothing to do with the crime, that was their best course of action.
Posted by guest , Dec 16, 2008 11:36AM
They are self-centered little dick-holes.
"Advice of counsel" is a weak little fig-leaf. These spoiled little Lord Fauntleroys gladly pushed the old fart off the cliff to save themselves.
The old man has had a good life, besides, it's what Daddy would have wanted, see?
Self-centered little dick-holes turn in Father. There's your headline.
Posted by guest , Dec 16, 2008 11:57AM
Gotta give Bernie props for being a good father, he takes his sons fishing, buys them cool clothes, oh and takes the blame for the scam. "Turn me in boys, it'll look better for you."
Posted by diablo , Dec 16, 2008 11:58AM
Bess should start posting pictures of the show "Arrested Development" every time she writes something about Madoff.
Posted by guest , Dec 16, 2008 12:03PM
@diablo- hey, what are you doing here? (and yes, the Gob and Buster had no idea what George Sr. was up to was very clever).
Posted by guest , Dec 16, 2008 12:04PM
who poses with a fish? seriously!
Posted by guest , Dec 16, 2008 12:15PM
It's possible that this "wind-up" was put in place as a contingency plan long in advance, with the sons' names carefully kept off any paper or electronic trail, and the appearance maintained even to Madoff staff that the sons had no direct involvement with the "asset management" operation, with the idea that if and when "the gig was up", dad would take the fall alone.
While it's not impossible for one man to pull off something like this, especially given the use of a tiny CPA firm that needed the business and perhaps wouldn't even imagine itself qualified to question the activities of the great Madoff, I have serious doubts that someone Bernie's age could have pulled it off alone. It would require very high level computer programming expertise, and I haven't seen any suggestion that Bernie possessed any more computer expertise than the average 70 year old, or seen any hint of professional or educational experience during which he could have acquired it.
Posted by guest , Dec 16, 2008 12:40PM
Definitly the "Poison Pill" strategy at work here; they probably set this When The Gig Is Up course of action on one of those fishing trips, over a campfire and a few good scotches. All milked it for as long as they possibly could, knowing the Jews would be at the gates looking for their money once shitty market hit the fan.
Posted by guest , Dec 16, 2008 2:28PM
Crabcakes and football...that's what Maryland does!
Posted by guest , Dec 17, 2008 12:18AM
Andy Madoff is the owner of a company that manufactures fly fishing equipment. He fly fishes often. I doubt that some salesman saw him coming. All reports indicate the sons were unaware of their father's wrongdoing. Why must people post cruel comments about the sons?
Posted by guest , Dec 21, 2008 10:57AM
I have known the sons for a long time. Very hard to believe they knew. Simply inconsistent with the way they think and lead their lives. I don't believe they could have lived with the knowledge.
If father could deceive so many for so long, he may have had many secrets from his sons. That seems to be a pattern with lots of criminals and their families.
Posted by guest , Dec 22, 2008 5:45PM
i took a poop in that river a couple years ago. hopefully they ate some.
anyway, i hope these guys go to prison and get anally raped by guys with huge dongs
Posted by guest , Dec 23, 2008 6:02AM
@20 i'm not @9, but here's what a little googling turned up. http://is.gd/bE8f
Posted by guest , Dec 23, 2008 4:00PM
This guy looks like a complete ___ (fill in the blank with your choice of noun) holding the fish. He probably is used to holding something along the lines of tube steak.
Posted by guest , Dec 23, 2008 4:01PM
This guy looks like a complete ___ (fill in the blank with your choice of noun) holding the fish. He probably is used to holding something along the lines of tube steak.