$823 million.
Actually, between $823 million and $826 million. That is what the Jewish T-Bill managed to come out on the other side of $65 billion (or so) with. At least, "according to court papers filed on Friday." $700 million of that is tied to Big B's ownership in Bernard L. Madoff Investment Securities LLC.
Madoff to appeal bail, net worth revealed [Reuters]






Posted by guest , Mar 14, 2009 12:13AM
He can kiss my grits.
Posted by guest , Mar 14, 2009 1:07AM
i like grits with lots of salt and pepper and cheese. i'm drunk RIGHT NOW.
madoff can eat grits out of my asscrack.
Posted by guest , Mar 14, 2009 1:50AM
bess, on the home page the above the law link takes you to dealbreaker
(its at the very bottom)
Posted by guest , Mar 14, 2009 2:15AM
@1, is you rollin?
Posted by Anal_yst , Mar 14, 2009 4:13AM
trippin balls, man
Posted by StillNoCouch , Mar 14, 2009 7:51AM
(Singing)
"Bernie and Bubba, Cell Block D, K-I-S-S-I-N-G" !
____________
$823MM my happy ass ! (or his sore one)
Posted by guest , Mar 14, 2009 8:04AM
those $823 mil + the $65m or so of his bitch along with his luxury apartment will hopefully be confiscated so his net worth will soon reach 0. I do hope they will go after his sons too. The whole family should be wiped out.
Posted by guest , Mar 14, 2009 11:32AM
Actually, marked to market, you can chop $690m off of that. He valued Madoff Securities at $700m. It's probably getting less than $10m, because it, well, wasn't a real business ($1m in profit in 2008).
Posted by guest , Mar 14, 2009 11:47AM
Why hasn't someone been paid off to assassinate him yet?
Posted by guest , Mar 14, 2009 12:17PM
$65B down to $826M, the jew couldn't even steal correctly
Posted by Investorcluzo , Mar 14, 2009 12:30PM
why does he have $45 million in securities? he trades for his own account but not for his ponzi one?
I would also point out the following related to "monthly" expenses:
NY apt - taxis/subway: $300, I thought a monthly subway card was $81?
Palm Beach - boat captain: $5,250
France - boat captain: $5,600 (why is he getting $350 more a month than the guy in PB?)
must be nice, $130k a year for two boat captains. suddenly, the $15k my friends pay to send their kids to pre-school doesn't seem so bad...
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/031309madofffinance.pdf
Posted by guest , Mar 14, 2009 1:34PM
The people who pulled their money out of Madoff early made A LOT of money. I'd like to see a list of people who made a killing on this Ponzi scheme.
Posted by guest , Mar 14, 2009 1:37PM
@12 - Madoff didnt promise anyone high returns - the reason he lasted so long was that his returns were moderate to low moderate BUT consistant year after year. So I dont really think anyone made a killing.
Posted by guest , Mar 14, 2009 2:03PM
Madoff's cellmate should force him to him strump a dump every time he strumps said dump
Posted by guest , Mar 14, 2009 2:36PM
@11 $1m on $45m in bonds monthly? Am I missing something?
Posted by guest , Mar 14, 2009 3:13PM
@4, bitch, I might be...
Posted by guest , Mar 14, 2009 4:44PM
# 13 no one made a killing? Jackoff made $65 billion..Mother F'er is going to be someone's bitch in the steel jungle..Atleast he can buy some nice knee pads.
Next up- His wife and family members.. bet 2 cents they are NOT innocent. Maybe she can get it on w/ a pool boy now, "Hunny rub the bunions"..
Posted by guest , Mar 14, 2009 4:46PM
Madoff = Prison = Lockjaw
Posted by guest , Mar 14, 2009 7:06PM
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a4U_B0XX3U3M&refer=home
Good luck clawing it back from Cassano.
Posted by guest , Mar 14, 2009 7:50PM
12 market stories you might have missed this week. The author threw in some economic cartoons.
http://bit.ly/1a25eB
Solid work.
Posted by guest , Mar 14, 2009 10:05PM
Story problem: You give me $1 as an investment in my fradulent scheme. I take your dollar and buy a candy bar with it. I then mail you statements for ten years saying that your dollar has appreciated to $100 million.
When the scheme blows up, how much have you lost: $1 or $100 million?
There never was $65 billion. It never existed, it was a made-up number. The aggregate loss is limited to the amount that people contributed, less the total of amounts paid to other customers in prior periods.
Posted by guest , Mar 14, 2009 11:12PM
give me a dollar, i buy a candy bar. lure young boy to van with candy bar. sell young boy to arab for $1,000. real money dickhead.
Posted by guest , Mar 14, 2009 11:12PM
give me a dollar, i buy a candy bar. lure young boy to van with candy bar. sell young boy to arab for $1,000. real money dickhead.
Posted by guest , Mar 14, 2009 11:46PM
"hey little girl, wanna buy a candy bar?"
- young Bernie Madoff
Posted by guest , Mar 14, 2009 11:57PM
This is cute:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123707854113331281.html#mod=testMod
So we (still employed taxpayers) not only have to make the Structured Products group's counterparties whole via bailout funds, but we have to sponsor models and bottles for the dudes in the City to the tune of $100 mil?
Awesome.
Sucks for these guys (via NYT piece):
"A.I.G. did cut other bonuses, Mr. Liddy explained, but those were part of the compensation for people who dealt in other parts of the company and had no direct involvement with the derivatives."
Posted by guest , Mar 15, 2009 12:56AM
But Mr. Liddy also wrote that AIG "cannot attract and retain the best and brightest talent … if employees believe that their compensation is subject to continued and arbitrary adjustment by the U.S. Treasury."
I knew that line would be in there somewhere.
Posted by guest , Mar 15, 2009 2:48AM
No wonder UBS is fighting so hard
Posted by guest , Mar 15, 2009 3:37AM
RE: This AIG bullshit.
Chief Executive Edward Liddy said, in regards to the bonus payout, "quite frankly, AIG's hands are tied." Bullshit. Just don't pay it. I would love to see someone actually sue over this - ya, go ahead, become the most hated man/women in America. Just call the bluff already, there is no reason to pay such an amount and, I hate to break this to the good people at AIG, but you are not "the best and brightest talent."
Posted by guest , Mar 15, 2009 12:35PM
I am going to write the first letter I have ever written to a US Senator over this AIG bonus bullshit. I am going to tell him that AIG traders and execs are illiterate, illegal immigrants and he'll predictably "go nut crazy" and put an immediate if boneheaded halt to it before checking out the story.
Guess what state I live in.
Posted by Anal_yst , Mar 15, 2009 1:38PM
Random factoid, I'm told occupancy at some places down here in Aruba is down on the order of ~50%.
No Stanford-esque ponz operations uncovered yet though, will keep ya'll posted or something.
Posted by guest , Mar 15, 2009 2:59PM
#10 no need to be anti-semitic dickhead.
Posted by guest , Mar 15, 2009 4:19PM
#@28...
TGFD agrees with you totally. Had you not already written your entry, I was going to write one just like it.
I believe that a defendent in a civil case can have a jury trial, and that would work to AIG's advantage. Where in hell would those derivative clowns who are looking to collect bonus money from AIG find a f'n jury that would side with them?
The f'n employment contract would mean nothing. I wonder if said contract had anything written in it that referred to 'doing things that are detrimental to the company'?
That idiot Liddy at AIG has no balls and should be replaced yesterday. What a f'n dork he is.
The Guy from Delaware
Posted by guest , Mar 15, 2009 5:52PM
AIG Says Fuck You to Taxpayers
http://thereformedbroker.com/2009/03/15/aig-to-taxpayers-f-you/
Posted by tbone , Mar 15, 2009 5:57PM
I agree that the obvious thing to do is burn the contracts in the same bonfire these tools used to disappear all company assets (and then some).
Hypothetically speaking, if AIG had filed for bankruptcy before bonus day, what would have become of these payouts? Would product structuring get in line with the creditors?
Someone f'ed up when setting terms for the bailout. $100mm is a drop in the bucket, but these clowns are gov. employees now. Its like giving cops bonuses for shooting sick children.
Posted by guest , Mar 15, 2009 5:59PM
Here's how the Brits show their displeasure with banks:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/975012.stm
Posted by guest , Mar 15, 2009 8:38PM
As the AIG bonus fiasco heats up, now AIG has decided to release payments to counterparties funded by the gov.
http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/03/15/aig-discloses-counterparties-who-received-224-billion/
Bernie needs some cellmates of his ilk. Somewhere in this swindle there must be some good candidates from AIG to keep him company.
Posted by guest , Mar 15, 2009 9:27PM
AIG insured Bernie?
Posted by Finnegan , Mar 15, 2009 10:18PM
AIG and Madoff both non-stories now.
Posted by guest , Mar 16, 2009 12:17AM
@38 AIG will continue to be a "story" until they return the taxpayers' money.
Posted by guest , Mar 16, 2009 3:04AM
TGFD,
Glad you agree RE: AIG Bullshit. I think that the key here is that no jury, even if they found in favor of the plaintiffs, would award any kind of damages. Thus, the calculation is simple:
E = (0.99 * (0.99 * $170M + 0.01 * $5M) + 0.01 * $0) ~ $167M
That is, given a 0.99 probability of a lawsuit, a 0.99 probability that the plaintiffs win the lawsuit, and a total $5M in legal fees if a lawsuit occurs, then the expected loss is approximately equivalent to the current bonus payout. Furthermore, I think that the chance of a lawsuit actually being brought is less than 0.99; so, why not just roll the dice and tell the good people of AIG to go pound sand?
Posted by guest , Mar 16, 2009 10:11AM
Hey! $823M out of $6.5BThat's only 12.6% percent on your funds! That must be the best Hedge Fund Deal in Town !!
Posted by guest , Mar 16, 2009 10:35AM
17 He didn't take $65 billion. Do the math, he took in $65 billion from investors, has $823 million left. The difference is the total of what he stole plus what he distributed to investors. How much can a person spend? Certainly not $64,177,000,000, even over 20 years. Looking at his lifestyle, he probably spent at the most $1 billion over that time. That's what Madoff stole. The other $63 billion was stolen by his earlier investors from his later investors. Facilitated by Madoff, yes, but still ill gotten gains that they should not be keeping. No one wants to hear that though.
Posted by guest , Mar 16, 2009 11:54AM
Ruth has $5 & $7 Million loans out to son's homes, those will be liquidated...so sons are fucked
Wives (doggy ones) are out to; that divorcee's one aint getting any maintenance either
Look for Noel/Jaffe filing anyday
Posted by guest , Mar 16, 2009 11:59AM
Any word on clawbacks from investors? That's where the real money is.