Liberals do not consider cheating on taxes to be as morally problematic as conservatives do. This presents an obvious moral quandry [sic] of its own, as, putatively less surprisingly, liberals are more likely than conservatives are to favor greater amounts of taxation and wealth redistribution.

Liberals and Tax Cheating [The Audacious Epigone]

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Comments (63)

  1. Posted by guest | March 24, 2009 at 3:48 PM

    Duh…thats why they are democrats. Also known as shit eating hypocrits.

  2. Posted by guest | March 24, 2009 at 3:48 PM

    the irony of this is the new “KILLING IT”

  3. Posted by guest | March 24, 2009 at 3:51 PM

    @1…please go back to mopping the booths’ floors at the peep show. You might earn enough to go to college one day.

  4. Posted by guest | March 24, 2009 at 3:51 PM

    Liberals just stole my Filet-O-Fish!!!!

  5. Posted by guest | March 24, 2009 at 3:54 PM

    Help. I’ve got the “stfu you don’t work on wall street what do you know” thing down, but am having trouble with the “stfu, i work on wall street and know everything about politics” thing. Please help, EP. I have an interview with FOX shortly and am horribly unprepared.

  6. Posted by guest | March 24, 2009 at 3:54 PM

    Because the Red States pay little tax to begin with.

  7. Posted by guest | March 24, 2009 at 3:55 PM

    #1….It’s spelled “h-y-p-o-c-r-i-t-e-s”. I’m pretty sure they teach spelling at your compound’s “school”.

  8. Posted by guest | March 24, 2009 at 3:56 PM

    Duh. Water is wet and fire is hot.

  9. Posted by guest | March 24, 2009 at 4:01 PM

    I love reading the 18-25 y/o republican’s on here… “I hate democrats! They’re leaches! Wealth redistribution is going to ruin this country!”
    They were obviously never very popular in school and their parents brainwashed them at an early age. Stop trying to fit in with the old guys at the office and think for yourself for a change. Kthx.

  10. Posted by Novice | March 24, 2009 at 4:04 PM

    Great blog post. Cites regressions that don’t control for income (hey, are you surprised that poor black people– who are overrepresented in prison populations– vote Democratic?) and bases his main subject on the belief that people will respond accurately to polls. Brilliant.
    -from the only Red State that doesn’t mooch off the government

  11. Posted by guest | March 24, 2009 at 4:05 PM

    I love reading the 18-25 y/o republicans on here… “I hate democrats! They’re leaches! Wealth redistribution is going to ruin this country!”
    They were obviously never very popular in school and their parents brainwashed them at an early age. Stop trying to fit in with the old guys at the office and think for yourself for a change. Kthx.

  12. Posted by guest | March 24, 2009 at 4:07 PM

    A republican found a magic genie’s lamp and rubbed it. The genie said : “I will grant you one wish.” He said : “I wish I were smarter”. So the genie made him smarter. The next day he became a Democrat.

  13. Posted by guest | March 24, 2009 at 4:11 PM

    @9 and 11 (nice double post by the way). And only a cool 18-25 liberal db uses the phrase “Kthx.” How about this one: Fnloser. K, thanks!

  14. Posted by guest | March 24, 2009 at 4:12 PM

    @ 9/11 – Do you take cash, check, paypal or will you appoint a bureaucrat to take another 5% of my income in the name of “public good”?

  15. Posted by Novice | March 24, 2009 at 4:12 PM

    @11 Agreed.
    @12 Shoot yourself.

  16. Posted by guest | March 24, 2009 at 4:15 PM

    @7 thanks for pointing out my typo and at the same time making my point.
    No real answers just divert attention from the truth.
    @3 when Obama pulls out do you guys cuddle?

  17. Posted by guest | March 24, 2009 at 4:15 PM

    EP – I am dissatisfied with this blog post and demand my money back, or I will see you in court.

  18. Posted by guest | March 24, 2009 at 4:17 PM

    Hey Hitler @ 15…….
    STFU…there aren’t any Germans here for you to push around. Also, as soon as you complete shedding your skin you’ll be aable to type more ignorantly.
    Kthnxs

  19. Posted by Equity Private | March 24, 2009 at 4:19 PM

    “EP – I am dissatisfied with this blog post and demand my money back, or I will see you in court.”
    Perhaps a “Blog Hate Speech Tax” would be a better enforcement mechanism?

  20. Posted by guest | March 24, 2009 at 4:22 PM

    @1 and @16….You’ll have to ask your mother the answer to your question posed to #3. Also, when did you quit posting in German?

  21. Posted by guest | March 24, 2009 at 4:24 PM

    The “research” presented neglects the fact that liberals are in general more, well, liberal about the legality of various behaviors that are considered questionable by conservatives. So yes, they don’t think tax cheat is a serious crime, nor is use of marijuana, gay marriage, etc. In other words, this report does not prove that conservatives were more morally sound than liberals, but simply is another piece of partisan pseudoscience nonsense. (Full disclosure: I’m an independent.)

  22. Posted by guest | March 24, 2009 at 4:25 PM

    hyp·o·crite
    Function: noun
    1 : a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion 2 : a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings
    — hypocrite adjective
    SEE BELOW
    March 23, 2009
    Dodd’s Wife a Former Director of Bermuda-Based IPC Holdings, an AIG Controlled Company
    By Kevin Rennie
    No wonder Senator Christopher Dodd (D-Conn) went wobbly last week when asked about his February amendment ratifying hundreds of millions of dollars in bonuses to executives at insurance giant AIG. Dodd has been one of the company’s favorite recipients of campaign contributions. But it turns out that Senator Dodd’s wife has also benefited from past connections to AIG as well.

  23. Posted by guest | March 24, 2009 at 4:25 PM

    EP,
    Sheesh, sorry for the poor spelling. I’ve correct in the post.
    Novice,
    The GSS questions are not querying respondents on behavior. The TAXSPEND and TAXCHEAT variables are both ethical (or preferential, if you prefer) in nature. Also, while the respondent base isn’t identical, it does overlap. Why do you presume that controlling for income will yield different results?
    Using the CONINC variable, which probes family income, I ran the same analysis in two broad ranges. From $0-$40k and $40k-on up. The distributions are nearly identical. The ordering is exactly the same by political orientation, except for that in the $0-$40k group, strong conservatives are more opposes to tax cheating than conservatives are (among the ‘rich’, the relative pattern is identical).
    If you’d like to break it down further (although sample size starts to become a problem as the ranges become narrower), I certainly encourage you to do so!
    - Audacious Epigone

  24. Posted by guest | March 24, 2009 at 4:28 PM

    @22- kind of like the republicans who preach family value and are against the sin that is gay marriage and then get caught getting blown by a 14 yo in the bathroom of a bus station?

  25. Posted by guest | March 24, 2009 at 4:29 PM

    @20 my mom said yes they do cuddle but only on Sunday and only after 60min.

  26. Posted by guest | March 24, 2009 at 4:30 PM

    @12 A Republican walked into a bar and asked the bartender, “Isn’t that Jesus over there?” When the bartender said “Yes,” the Republican sent over a drink. “Put it on my tab,” he said.
    A little later a Libertarian walked in. “Say,” he said, “Isn’t that Jesus sitting over there?” The barman said, “Yes,” so the Libertarian sent over a hamburger.
    Presently a Democrat showed up, noticed Jesus and sent over a plate of french fries.
    Jesus soon left. On his way out he stopped to talk to the Republican. “Thanks for the drink,” he said; “It was really good. Is there anything I can do for you?” “Well,” said the Republican, “I’m facing knee surgery…” “Don’t say another word,” said Jesus as he laid a hand on the man’s knee. “You are healed.”
    Jesus came to the Libertarian and said, “Thanks for the hamburger. It was really good. Is there anything I can do for you?” “Well,” said the Libertarian, “I have cataracts…” Jesus placed his fingers on the man’s eyes and said, “You are healed.”
    Finally, Jesus came to the Democrat. He thanked him for the fries and offered him any help he needed. “Don’t touch me!” shouted the Democrat, “I’m on Disability!!”

  27. Posted by guest | March 24, 2009 at 4:30 PM

    What brand of Oxycontin do neo-cons prefer? If I’m going to become one I need to know.

  28. Posted by guest | March 24, 2009 at 4:30 PM

    why is the defacto rebuttal from a liberal an immediate blast off of a Hitler comparison?
    try clearing your mind and compare your savior to Hitler. There’s a helluva lot more parallels between BHO & the mustachioed man than there was with GWB.

  29. Posted by guest | March 24, 2009 at 4:31 PM

    @18–
    “In fact there will be no thought, as we understand it now. Orthodoxy means not thinking – not needing to think. Orthodoxy is unconsciousness.”

  30. Posted by guest | March 24, 2009 at 4:32 PM

    Thin-skinned Liberals amuse me.

  31. Posted by Novice | March 24, 2009 at 4:34 PM

    @18 Buy-American has forced me to promote domestic industries, so I’ll recommend the classic Colt M1911 A1 instead of a Luger. Happy?

  32. Posted by guest | March 24, 2009 at 4:36 PM

    @14. Unfortunately the costs of maintaining the infrastructure, bureaucracy (someone has to the keep the proles away), and military at the level that enables you to make not only several times more than the average wage in the country but thousands of times more the average living standard than the average of all of human history requires that we politely ask for this small remittance.
    If you find this small $2k tax too much, we would like to politely remind you that you are welcome to either live in the greatest empire in history at a lower, but fully acceptable, wage, or, failing that, you are welcome to ship your ass off to any country where you will likely find yourself conscripted with a bout of gangrene, bad teeth, and ugly women. Then you will probably die in a training accident before you are 40.
    It’s up to you. After all, this is a free country.

  33. Posted by guest | March 24, 2009 at 4:38 PM

    @28…LOL…because it’s very close to the truth. Karl Rove knows the power of brilliant political strategy timed with voter malaise and Karl used it. It wasn’t Karl’s original idea though. He successfully copied it from certain 1930 German practioners of same. Suggest you rent “Triump of th Will” and compare it to Bush’s famous “Mission Accomplished” speech.
    Fascinating.

  34. Posted by guest | March 24, 2009 at 4:44 PM

    Liberals really are jerks.

  35. Posted by guest | March 24, 2009 at 4:44 PM

    This little old lady calls 911. When the operator answers she yells, “Help, send the police to my house right away! There’s a damn Democrat on my front porch and he’s playing with himself.”
    “What?” the operator exclaimed. “I said there is a damn Democrat on my front porch playing with himself and he’s weird; I don’t know him and I’m afraid! Please send the police!” the little old lady repeated.
    “Well, now, how do you know he’s a Democrat?”
    “Because, you damn fool, if it was a Republican, he’d be screwing somebody!”

  36. Posted by guest | March 24, 2009 at 4:48 PM

    @33 Yes writing a speech equates to killing 6 million jews….f’ing moron.

  37. Posted by guest | March 24, 2009 at 4:54 PM

    @36……@33 doesn’t compete with the public library. Suggest you visit one and study history. And learn how to spell “fucking”.

  38. Posted by guest | March 24, 2009 at 4:55 PM

    @EP The only thing you have proven by this blog is that if you give a bunch of monkeys a big pile of crap, they can not help but start flinging it.
    For your next trick, try giving them a million typewriters.

  39. Posted by guest | March 24, 2009 at 4:56 PM

    Lampshades made of the thin skin of liberals amuses me.

  40. Posted by guest | March 24, 2009 at 5:01 PM

    Neocons don’t have skin. They have scales.

  41. Posted by Equity Private | March 24, 2009 at 5:02 PM

    “@EP The only thing you have proven by this blog is that if you give a bunch of monkeys a big pile of crap, they can not help but start flinging it.”
    Mission accomplished!

  42. Posted by guest | March 24, 2009 at 5:03 PM

    @38. Given how much advertising money they get per thread, I’m sure that is the next step.

  43. Posted by guest | March 24, 2009 at 5:05 PM

    Well, it looks like the Liberals won this chapter in “Fanning the flames of the Culture Wars…”
    Be safe driving home tonight and remember: The great American eagle can’t fly unless its right wing and left wing work together!

  44. Posted by guest | March 24, 2009 at 5:06 PM

    Gesh doesn’t anyone have really nasty things to say about libertarians? we feel left out.
    - taxes? they suck
    - gay marriage? suit yourself
    - gun control? no thanks
    - expense wars? no thanks
    - subprime? buyer beware
    - gov’t bailouts? you’re kidding, right?

  45. Posted by guest | March 24, 2009 at 5:07 PM

    @24 – Can you name the specific Republican who did that or is that just a cute line you toss out for shock value?
    Actually, I think you’ll find if you subtract those people in Utah who live in trailers (and you know I love ya, Moroni-heads) you’ll find a lot of Conservatives (in the Constitutional sense) don’t give a rat’s about which hole you use. I sure don’t.
    Ideally, government should stay out of the bedroom and the boardroom.
    Did the Religious Right screw the Republican party up — I think it probably did. They also screwed things up by spending like liberals.
    Did the blacks on the down low and who as a group have largely homophobic tendencies (see HIV rates) screw things up for their fellow Dems, the LGBTs? Already did in California.
    So, if you’re going to trot out the gay marriage bit, why not attack the members of your own party first for not supporting it?
    Also, I don’t recall Barry or Biden actually stating that they supported gay marriage during any of the debates. When pressed, their answers were actually that marriage was “between a man and a woman.”
    Yeah, I’m with Bushie that “all crimes are hate crimes” because it offends the shit out of me that if you rape my mother the State can give a lesser punishment than if you rape my gay mother.
    Other than that, to each his own. Just pay your goddam taxes like I do.

  46. Posted by guest | March 24, 2009 at 5:16 PM

    Amazing that this blogger was able to take time out from designing Final Fantasy-inspired Magic the Gathering cards to trumpet a 1/3 standard deviation in a questionably structured statistical analysis.

  47. Posted by guest | March 24, 2009 at 5:25 PM

    @46. whoa now. even those of us here with minors and majors in math know that the best course here is just to insult heavily and profanely.
    i tried pointing out the fundamental flaws in 2003, and all that got me was a deep bout of heavy alcoholism, though i went long gold and didn’t buy a house so i guess it’s even.

  48. Posted by guest | March 24, 2009 at 5:29 PM

    @33 what is you point? are you saying Bush is Hitler? i am missing your point because you are a total asshole and a cock sucker.

  49. Posted by guest | March 24, 2009 at 5:29 PM

    @33 what is your point? are you saying Bush is Hitler? i am missing your point because you are a total asshole and a cock sucker.

  50. Posted by guest | March 24, 2009 at 5:31 PM

    @27 – And the difference between Rush taking Oxy and Barack smoking crack is what exactly?
    Limbaugh needs to write a book about his confusion over his drug use and blame his deadbeat dad for it. Then, and only then, can he become President.

  51. Posted by guest | March 24, 2009 at 5:36 PM

    @50 In Africa its called a peace pipe
    be nice, he was living there at the time.

  52. Posted by guest | March 24, 2009 at 5:56 PM

    @50. Anyone who has not snorted coke once in their life is not fit to be president. That is a fact. Now go stick your dildo back up your ass.

  53. Posted by chernevik | March 24, 2009 at 5:57 PM

    “The “research” presented neglects the fact that liberals are in general more, well, liberal about the legality of various behaviors”
    Maybe they would do better if they were less slack, and wouldn’t to take from other people so much.

  54. Posted by guest | March 24, 2009 at 6:17 PM

    Since everybody cheats on taxes this makes me conclude, again, that conservatives are bigger hypocrites than the rest.

  55. Posted by guest | March 24, 2009 at 6:29 PM

    @52 – Thanks, don’t need one. Like “Snowpants” Sarah, and unlike all the bone-dry liberal bitches in Manhattan whose pussy-whipped-PC-She-men are actually “working late” in Chelsea, we conservative chicks still get to see Harry and the Twins on a regular basis.

  56. Posted by guest | March 24, 2009 at 8:34 PM

    @55: Conservative women rock.

  57. Posted by guest | March 24, 2009 at 9:49 PM

    55 Not in Manhattan you don’t. Why do you think Anne Coulter acts the way she does. And that chic on The View as well. Both starved for sex and no NASCAR guys within 300 miles. Oh, and on the getting it list you need to add Bristol Palin. Not that getting it got her anywhere she wanted to be..

  58. Posted by guest | March 24, 2009 at 9:50 PM

    Hope you’re using Chelsea in the figurative rather than literal sense. It hasn’t been gay in years. The groovy gay places are now in Wburgh or E Village.

  59. Posted by guest | March 24, 2009 at 9:58 PM

    @55 = ann coulter. tell us again about how much sex you’re having, sugar tits. it’ll almost make it true.

  60. Posted by guest | March 24, 2009 at 10:15 PM

    really E Village? I live here. Doesn’t seem overly gay. I’m straight. and so are my neighbors. Chealsea is far more gay.

  61. Posted by guest | March 24, 2009 at 11:19 PM

    Speaking of those hotties on the View, betcha Coulter is still getting more than Joy o’ no Sex Behar, Whoopi or Formaldehyde Barb combined. Who was the other one Star Jones? Oh yeah — Chelsea Al’s shemale.
    Sugar Tits would love to chat more but I’ve got three more NASCAR
    Daddies to blow tonight and those toothless men from the Tallahassee Pines Trailer Park are due in tomorrow — wish me luck!
    PS might want to leave the Borough and your ignorant stereotypes behind and go have yourself a little fun sometime — you almost sound like my uncle, Klansman Bob, who is a bit of a bigot.

  62. Posted by guest | March 25, 2009 at 7:26 AM

    used to live in Chelsea before I said g’bye to the hellhole that is NYC altogether. Its still quite gay. especially the further west you go. 8th between 28th and 17th(ish). try taking a stroll. Anywhere with a Bioscrip pharmacy (caters to HIV & cancer rx) is a dead giveaway.

  63. Posted by Bristol Airport Hotels | April 19, 2012 at 8:08 PM

    vp1RUN Awesome article.Much thanks again. Much obliged.

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