The lawsuits, which the NAACP said would be filed in U.S. District Court in California, allege that African-American homeowners were frequently steered into mortgages with higher interest rates than other borrowers with similar credit histories.
“These banks are getting billions in bailout money yet think they can get away with business as usual,” Austin Tighe, co-lead counsel for the NAACP, said in an interview Thursday evening.
[...]
“We’re going to be requesting policy and practice documents that have probably never been seen publicly before,” Tighe said.

NAACP Alleges Lending Discrimination Against Wells, HSBC [CNNMoney]

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Comments (71)

  1. Posted by guest | March 13, 2009 at 11:00 AM

    The sad thing is if I comment how I would like to on this article, I am sure I would be labeled a racist.

  2. Posted by guest | March 13, 2009 at 11:02 AM

    So they are upset that because they are black, they got loans they should never have gotten and now they are pissed the intertest rate was too high?
    Maybe Obama shoud have been more specific about what rate he wanted when he and ACORN applied the threats and pressure on banks to give these loans in the first place!!
    Cry me a fucking river…

  3. Posted by PatrickBateman | March 13, 2009 at 11:02 AM

    Hi, I have high debt, crappy credit and a landlord who is chasing me for rent. I graduated high school, so I’m smart enough to know what 10% means, Mr Loan Guy. Where do I sign?

  4. Posted by guest | March 13, 2009 at 11:08 AM

    NAACP
    National Association of Africa Comedians Perpetuated

  5. Posted by Lowly Assistant | March 13, 2009 at 11:09 AM

    Too redlined, wasn’t pre-approved.

  6. Posted by Garuda | March 13, 2009 at 11:10 AM

    How many African-Americans are working at Dealbreaker anyway?

  7. Posted by guest | March 13, 2009 at 11:10 AM

    No comment.

  8. Posted by guest | March 13, 2009 at 11:11 AM

    MAKE THIS STOP!!!!

  9. Posted by guest | March 13, 2009 at 11:15 AM

    Dealbreaker PC policy (only protective of specific racial/ethnic identities) enforced in 3…2…1…

  10. Posted by guest | March 13, 2009 at 11:16 AM

    A white colleague is really angry as he tried desperately in the last two years to get a mortgage refinance with not the best credit score and no one, no one told him anything about anything like this available. He is seriously thinking he wasn’t told about this and was being discriminated against.

  11. Posted by guest | March 13, 2009 at 11:18 AM

    The NAACP is hilarious. I love that the media actually take them seriously.

  12. Posted by guest | March 13, 2009 at 11:20 AM

    @7 = white collar racist

  13. Posted by guest | March 13, 2009 at 11:20 AM

    what the frack?!?

  14. Posted by guest | March 13, 2009 at 11:23 AM

    my god that lobster is huge. That is a huge lobster.

  15. Posted by trojan | March 13, 2009 at 11:25 AM

    You would rather have a lexus, some justice, a dream or some substance?
    A beamer, a necklace or freedom?
    Still a nigga like me dont playa hate, I just stay awake
    This is real hip hop, and it dont stop until we get the po-po off the block
    not sarcasm, i just like dead prez

  16. Posted by guest | March 13, 2009 at 11:29 AM

    @ 15 when they 4close on yo azz, you can sleep in the big bacseat of yo lexus

  17. Posted by guest | March 13, 2009 at 11:30 AM

    @15 — Obama is that you?

  18. Posted by guest | March 13, 2009 at 11:30 AM

    silly silly swamp rhinos

  19. Posted by Suits | March 13, 2009 at 11:32 AM

    Ironically, it appears based upon the risk profile the interest rate should have been higher.

  20. Posted by guest | March 13, 2009 at 11:33 AM

    I live in a van, down by the river!

  21. Posted by guest | March 13, 2009 at 11:36 AM

    The idea that bankers would rip some people off and not others is ridiculous. We all know bankers rip off anyone and everyone, including their own mothers.

  22. Posted by Anal_yst | March 13, 2009 at 11:37 AM

    My president is black, my lambo is blue…

  23. Posted by trojan | March 13, 2009 at 11:41 AM

    wow no dead prez fans?
    nobody else here went to suburban prep school and knows rap? i’m surprised

  24. Posted by guest | March 13, 2009 at 11:45 AM

    @23 go post on Obama’s website i bet you find what you are looking for there…

  25. Posted by merkin capital partners | March 13, 2009 at 11:49 AM

    Ever been to a car lot Mr. Tighe? I hear that the salesmen try to get the ill-informed to pay sticker price. Perhaps I should speak in terms of payments for you.

  26. Posted by guest | March 13, 2009 at 11:56 AM

    This is great.
    No, really.
    Let’s get this shit in open court. Let’s get some people under oath. Let’s find out who was pressuring who to do what. Let’s have somebody explain to a judge – and Federal judges LOVE to pounce on crappy PowerPoint slides and say, “Wait a minute, where’d that number come from?” – what the real default rates of who were.
    ISTR a deconstruction of one of the main studies that inspired the CRA that found when you factored in various things other than race, what everybody was screaming was redlining and profiling was plain old credit risk assessment, nothing more, nothing less.
    #21 has it dead nuts. Bankers are inspired by the great words of J.R. “Bob” Dobbs, who is famously quoted as saying, “They may be Pink, but their money is GREEN.” Unless the NAACP is prepared to stipulate that Human Neurological Uniformity is a myth on the stand, this suit is going to be one of their biggest blunders ever, and that’s no low bar to jump.

  27. Posted by guest | March 13, 2009 at 11:57 AM

    Its half lobster half man half wideclops
    no no there cant be three halves, its half lobster half wideclops-man
    wait wait half lobsterman half wideclops…..LOBSTERCLOPS!!!

  28. Posted by Lowly Assistant | March 13, 2009 at 11:57 AM

    Trojan,
    I am the wolf, dealbreaker the blade.
    Also, mind sex was the most ridiculous song in the fucking world.
    Go suburban prep school!

  29. Posted by guest | March 13, 2009 at 11:59 AM

    The 20 piece KFC dinner with every
    1 Year ARM should have tipped off the regulators

  30. Posted by trojan | March 13, 2009 at 11:59 AM

    fagocytosis @24
    “obama’s website?” you should be on ted butler’s website with a dumbass comment like that.
    what part of suburban prep school was hard to understand? the part where it was in fairfield county? 90% of my class was involved in counterprotesting FOR the iraq war- liking rap does not equal liking obama.
    i bet you went to one of those super special magnate schools.

  31. Posted by Seaman Bodine II | March 13, 2009 at 11:59 AM

    I know for a fact that Wells got out of sub-prime in 05, primarily out of fear of this sort of lawsuit.

  32. Posted by guest | March 13, 2009 at 12:04 PM

    It’s true; I used to model RMBS and there was always the toggle
    =if(race_category=”black”,.07,.05)

  33. Posted by guest | March 13, 2009 at 12:06 PM

    LOBSTERCLOPS ate my mortgage.

  34. Posted by guest | March 13, 2009 at 12:07 PM

    My long experience of watching HBO informs me that black americans only buy homes as a) part of a scheme to rip off HUD organized with the NJ mob or as b) part of a scheme to gain control of the narcotics trade in West Baltimore

  35. Posted by guest | March 13, 2009 at 12:10 PM

    that is one wide-eyed LOBSTERMAN, though the f**k me boots are a nice touch

  36. Posted by guest | March 13, 2009 at 12:21 PM

    @32: what does the toggle ‘=if(race_category=”black”,.07,.05)’ do to the mortgage app?? Add 200 bps?

  37. Posted by guest | March 13, 2009 at 12:27 PM

    @30 “fagocytosis”?
    Really you country day school bumpkin?
    You must have gone to band camp and had an experience. I went to private school in NYC and most likely fucked your mother…

  38. Posted by guest | March 13, 2009 at 12:28 PM

    @36, yip; it was the interest rate toggle imbedded in 60% of the whole loans we were bundling. For gingers, they’d add 300 bps.

  39. Posted by cy | March 13, 2009 at 12:29 PM

    Well done, #34.

  40. Posted by guest | March 13, 2009 at 12:32 PM

    @1 This is America. No matter how you think your comments will be perceived… as an African American that reads Dealbreaker daily.
    I would be interested in reading them. Express yourself freely.
    @6 Whether African Americans work for DealBreaker or not…we do read DealBreaker.
    You are so typical in thinking that a website could be the exclusive realm of only one type of people.
    I don’t personally pay much attention to the NAACP but the issue here is not just financially illiterate people,
    crying because they made bad financial decisions (like Whites or others that were financially irresponsible)
    but one of them being treated inequitably when they have the simililar credit histories / incomes as their
    white counterparts which only made a bad situation worse for them. Why would it sound reasonable to any White person
    that wasn’t a racist, that persons with similar credit histories / incomes should be offered unfavorable loan terms.
    This will either be proven to be fact or not no matter how reactionary the Whites that read this blog and leave such
    comments may be.

  41. Posted by trojan | March 13, 2009 at 12:46 PM

    @37
    Trinity? Horace Mann? haha Ramaz? Do any have varsity teams? Whichever school, I can guarantee I’ve fucked the classmates you used beat it every night dreaming about(especially Trinity).
    UWS tool.

  42. Posted by guest | March 13, 2009 at 12:47 PM

    Ripping off blacks, Fuck Yeah!
    Suing for policy/procedure docs, Fuck Yeah!
    Settling out of court, Fuck Yeah!
    America, Fuck Yeah!
    for @40

  43. Posted by guest | March 13, 2009 at 12:49 PM

    This was a “No Comment” posting. The only proper comment to post is “No Comment”.
    Get with it.

  44. Posted by guest | March 13, 2009 at 12:58 PM

    @41 I am UES, you asshole face…and if you fucked Trinity girls dont tell anyone about it…keep it in the closet with your sexuality.
    Any NYC prep knows none of them were hot.

  45. Posted by guest | March 13, 2009 at 1:03 PM

    Wow that’s a FAIL in the statistics department.
    Mortgage interest rates are in part determined by debt/income ratio so ceteris paribus average white will get a lower rate than an average black, simple because on average white people have higher income than black people.

  46. Posted by guest | March 13, 2009 at 1:05 PM

    Comment removed by moderator.

  47. Posted by guest | March 13, 2009 at 1:11 PM

    Also douche alert 45, 41 et. al.
    Stories about your parents paying for private school fascinate us all…

  48. Posted by Seaman Bodine II | March 13, 2009 at 1:12 PM

    i think it’s funny you’ve turned this into a bashing session – the facts are there, and the paper trail is thick – wells (at least, I know that for sure) knew this sort of suit was coming, and got lucky, by shutting down most of sub-prime ops, for fear of this crap, vs. an actual market call

  49. Posted by trojan | March 13, 2009 at 1:14 PM

    My bad; UES tool.
    Try Chapin or Brearley.

  50. Posted by guest | March 13, 2009 at 1:16 PM

    @50 i did. Not Brearley…again thats like a boys school.
    @48 dont hate me cause you aint me bitch.

  51. Posted by guest | March 13, 2009 at 1:22 PM

    @51
    Here’s a website where you can masturbate each other over the amounts your parents spent in private school… god knows it’s a fascinating topic to follow. Plus you get daily updates!
    http://www.bigdouchebag.com/

  52. Posted by guest | March 13, 2009 at 1:28 PM

    @47 You are just too fucking ignorant to be believed.

  53. Posted by guest | March 13, 2009 at 1:32 PM

    @52 is that by the same people who run the site:
    iamabitchfromafarm.com?
    I figured you may get their updates too.

  54. Posted by guest | March 13, 2009 at 1:41 PM

    Comment removed by moderator.

  55. Posted by guest | March 13, 2009 at 1:46 PM

    I defalt on mah loan for my house and my ‘sclade. I dun care none. I aint givin’ either back to da bank.
    I do what i want.

  56. Posted by trojan | March 13, 2009 at 1:50 PM

    how the hell do people like 55 find DB?

  57. Posted by guest | March 13, 2009 at 1:59 PM

    wtf is with the ‘comedy central’ authentication cert pop up?

  58. Posted by guest | March 13, 2009 at 2:02 PM

    @ 15 Im down for runnin up on them crackers in they city hall…

  59. Posted by guest | March 13, 2009 at 2:02 PM

    @57 what the hell does that mean?

  60. Posted by guest | March 13, 2009 at 2:08 PM

    “Wow that’s a FAIL in the statistics department.
    Mortgage interest rates are in part determined by debt/income ratio so ceteris paribus average white will get a lower rate than an average black, simple because on average white people have higher income than black people.”
    Not disputing the meat of your post but you apparently don’t understand Latin.

  61. Posted by guest | March 13, 2009 at 2:57 PM

    EP has really outdone/exposed herself with this topic/thread.
    Posts like 18 and 38 are about as funny as EP getting raped until her eyes bleed.

  62. Posted by guest | March 13, 2009 at 3:01 PM

    @ 57 you pathetic p.o.s. good luck with your future.

  63. Posted by guest | March 13, 2009 at 3:33 PM

    WOW I AM SHOCKED EP— take 55′s comments off and keep @62?
    Only proving the case.

  64. Posted by guest | March 13, 2009 at 3:36 PM

    @61 care to enlighten me? I suppose syntactically it belongs at the end of the sentence?

  65. Posted by guest | March 13, 2009 at 3:41 PM

    @54 Wow, that is fantastic, did you come up with that yourself? Your wit can only be matched by your personality. No wonder you’re stuck on where you came from, rather than where you got yourself… mediocrity is a sad business.

  66. Posted by guest | March 13, 2009 at 3:46 PM

    49 Could this be from the stuff Wells inherited when it acquired Wachovia (which had acquired World Savings?)

  67. Posted by Equity Private | March 13, 2009 at 3:55 PM

    “Posted by guest, Mar 13, 2009 3:33PM
    WOW I AM SHOCKED EP— take 55′s comments off and keep @62?
    Only proving the case.”
    I actually didn’t do any of the moderating in this thread. Nice try though.

  68. Posted by guest | March 13, 2009 at 10:51 PM

    too race baiting, didn’t read B1TCHES!
    Tanned Banker

  69. Posted by davidjenks2000 | April 3, 2009 at 5:06 AM

    Mortgage interest rates are in part determined by debt/income ratio so ceteris paribus average white will get a lower rate than an average black, simple because on average white people have higher income than black people.
    ————————————
    David
    Credit Card Debt

  70. Posted by davidjenks2000 | April 3, 2009 at 5:09 AM

    Hello guys!I like to say that Mortgage interest rates are in part determined by debt/income ratio so ceteris paribus average white will get a lower rate than an average black, simple because on average white people have higher income than black people.
    ————————————
    David
    Credit Card Debt

  71. Posted by Freddy H | April 16, 2009 at 6:11 AM

    Your credit card is like a student grade report card. The rewards of raising your score speak directly to your wallet: You’ll qualify for more loans and be offered better interest rates. Everyone needs some short term financing now and again. Eventually some of us want to own homes, so if your credit rating isn’t exactly good, then attempting to repair your credit would be a good idea. Well, getting payday loans now and again to make higher than minimum payments isn’t a bad step to take. You might also make some alterations in your personal budget to make more payments and get out from under the cloud of debt. It could save you from worrying about payday loans later on if you repair your credit.
    http://personalmoneystore.com/moneyblog/2009/04/07/repair-credit-payday-loans/

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