Not sure there’s anything left to say but surely you people can come up with something (is Arizona State really worthy of spot number 29?). As previously mentioned, the list of the Top 20 b-schools we printed last week was unofficial, having been (unintentionally?) flashed in a US News video about law schools. Now they’re out for real, and save for slots 19 and 20 (Georgetown and UNC/University of Southern California, respectively), which couldn’t be made out at the time, the two are identical.
20. University of Southern California
20. University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill
19. Georgetown
18. Texas
17. Cornell
15. UVA
15. Carnegie Mellon
14. UCLA
13. Michigan
12. Duke
11. NYU
10. Yale
9. Columbia
8. Dartmouth
7. Berkeley
5. University of Chicago
5. MIT
3. Wharton
3. Northwestern
2. Stanford
1. Harvard
really… no Thunderbird?
bogus, bs list.
Throw some D’s on this list
Where is University of Phoenix?
- hedge fund trader
Where’s Nebraska-Lincoln?????
~Sigma Chi pledge w/Sore Ass
Is Yale a legit hedgie choice??
yale>stern? yeahhh……
I don’t think I’ve ever even met a Berkeley MBA on Wall St – do they all work growing vegetables efficiently for Alice Waters?
These bicker threads must be bringing in a lot of dough. Sheeple :-)
Where’s St. Joseph’s Haub School of Business?
@4, go EX and go NU!
Northwestern at #3 is horseshit. Columbia and Northwestern should be swapped.
your numbers are wrong- kellogg and wharton are tied at 3, mit and chicago are tied at 5, cmu and darden tied at 15.
@7 – incredibly enough, just because you have an MBA does not necessarily mean you work on Wall Street…or even finance! you could actually be running a company, which is what you can learn if you go to a number of these schools that are not Chicago, Wharton or Harvard.
@7 Curiously I think I’ve also met maybe 1. Perhaps they all just stay out in Cali? Anyone care to explain/refute this apparent phenomenon?
I didn’t know U.S. News was still in business.
Arizona State deserves to be as highly ranked as it is based on the quality of female talent in the undergraduate body.
@8 knows what’s up!
By the way, there’s a great picture of Eliot Spitzer on “Real Housewives of New York City” on this TheRudyReport.com site. So funny!
@18- um, it’s a shot of him walking down a crowded street, which does not a “great” picture make. don’t shill for your site here.
who gives a shit, graduates from all 20 of these prgms are screwed. good luck paying off that student loan. and even if daddy paid, good luck telling daddy that u will be showing up for the family picnic in a Scion
@19 You must be a Cornell grad. Sounds bitter.
wharton as no 3 is laughable. yale/mit/berkley are not top 10 programs IMO. not sure anyone takes the us news rankings seriously though.
you guys think there will be enough legit jobs for MBAs in 2 years?
you guys think there will be enough legit jobs for MBAs in 2 years?
seems like a lotta supply, little demand
@16, agree, the ranking would be reversed if based on the beauty of the female students. Except Mellon of course.
You’re all pussies. I’m a real man. Don’t need an MBA. I caught crabs in Alaska. I might even get a job on a crab boat.
Chicago should be #1.
Made it to MD with out MBA at LB, CS, ML
Anyone who doesn’t go to Texas is an idiot.
This is crap. Washington and Lee should be in the top 20.
In hoc is for fags…
@27 – agreed
1. Chicago
2. Wharton
3. MIT
4. HBS
5. Stanford
6. Columbia
7 -x. Everybody else
THUNDERBIRD, BITCHES!
Does anybody have a real opinion on what is a better school for starting your own company, Yale SOM, Ross or Sloan? I feel the opinions of randoms on the internet are better than that of US news…
Everything is bigger in Texas, including their business.
@7 Most UC Berkeley MBA’s tend to stick around the valley and get heavily recruited by tech companies in the Pac Centers WA/CA
Start your own freaking business and make a lot more money. All you corporate monkeys think MBAs will get you to the top only to find out that it’s purely political. Thinking becoming MD is an achievement is quite sad…
I am a man whore and damn proud of it.
NYU drop out
@30 Washington and Lee is total crap.
Every guy that ever graduated from that shit school weights 110 pounds, is a complete and total pussy and had had at least one dong in his mouth at some point.
@34, none. Just use the $ to start your own company.
- B. Gates.
@16/25
Remember, Mellon has the acting school, so there’s a few lookers there, also IMHO, Pittsburgh girls are generally like shooting fish in a barrel with a howitzer, but I digress…
Anybody hungry? Hungry for the flavor?
Washington and Lee is for losers who did not get into W&M or UVA.
@26, where did you catch em? I’m at the end of a 30 pot string, pulling nothing but blanks. If I don’t fill my tanks soon, we won’t make our quota and I’ll let Capt. Phil down. I don’t want to do that.
-Murray Gammrath, relief Captain – Cornelia Marie
Is it bad that I sweat when I breath?
@43 W & Elbows couldn’t get into UNC or UVA. W&M is garbage too. Is that a women’s school.
@39 = W&L student
I gave you Darien, I gave you your manhood,.I gave you everything…
I graduated from Penn/Wharton, JD/MBA in ’98. I got laid off from Goldman in ’03. Now I’m working as a bagger at Safeway in Modesto, CA. I live in a mobile home in the Countryside trailer park in the same town. The plumbing in my place hasn’t worked for 2 weeks and there raw feces festering in my toilet. The stench is unbearable, and there are flies everywhere. Last week, I was diagnosed with dysentery.
This is what the MBA/Wall Street life has brought me. I can never undo the huge mistakes I’ve made in my life, but please, learn from my example.
Are these even real schools? Melon? Barkley? Poopenshaften?
Simon is better than AZ.
I graduated from Penn/Wharton, JD/MBA in ’98. I got laid off from Goldman in ’03. Now I’m working as a bagger at Safeway in Modesto, CA. I live in a mobile home in the Countryside trailer park in the same town. The plumbing in my place hasn’t worked for 2 weeks and there raw feces festering in my toilet. The stench is unbearable, and there are flies everywhere. Last week, I was diagnosed with dysentery.
This is what the MBA/Wall Street life has brought me. I can never undo the huge mistakes I’ve made in my life, but please, learn from my example.
@44 – Capt Phil here… don’t worry, you’re doing a great job. Just don’t freak out like I did last year. Remember though – we need to beat the Time Bandit this year.
Is it true that everyone at UVA looks and dresses a like?
I graduated from Penn/Wharton, JD/MBA in ’98. I got laid off from Goldman in ’03. Now I’m working as a bagger at Safeway in Modesto, CA. I live in a mobile home in the Countryside trailer park in the same town. The plumbing in my place hasn’t worked for 2 weeks and there are raw feces festering in my toilet. The stench is unbearable, and there are flies everywhere. Last week, I was diagnosed with dysentery.
This is what the MBA/Wall Street life has brought me. I can never undo the huge mistakes I’ve made in my life, but please, learn from my example.
-@55
Ok, you got us. We promise we will learn. Now, will you stop re-posting?
#52/55/49 – learn to post, douchebag. I also went to Wharton and also work at Safeway (in San Bernardino), but I happen to live in a nice house and my bathroom is very clean. So screw you.
-@55
Ok, you got us. We promise we will learn. Now, will you stop re-posting?
@54 Blue Polo button down oxford and tan khakis…
all of the top 20 are good programs
All top 20 programs are good, most top 20 program students are bad.
Am I as prestigious as LOBSTERCLOPS?
@55 – Do you calk the wagon when crossing rivers or do you pay for the ferry?
Sorry you hear about your dysentery. Good luck on the Oregon Trail!
Unless you don’t care about your “network” (aka kissing ass for business / jobs), your choice of top 20 mba school doesn’t matter.
Quality of education is all the same. Only difference is geography / cost.
Unless you care about your “network” (aka kissing ass for business / jobs), your choice of top 20 mba school doesn’t matter.
Quality of education is all the same. Only difference is geography / cost.
Everyone at UVA is white, wears madras shorts, and drinks mint juleps.
I care about never having to set foot in Texas or Idaho.
can we get back to talking about b-school instead of lobsters and wagons
BAN TGFD ASAP
@30 – Gulotta?
Seems like there are a lot of very subjective opinions out there. You would think an MBA degree’s worth could easily be measured by ROI or NPV. I think the public schools would rank much higher under such a system, especially when you factor in some of the scholarships they offer.
Hofstra – Discuss.
UVA is for the good ole southern boys and refined ladies. Have fun dressing up for football games…you’re going to be a huge success!
All I studied in b-school was scenarios involving lobsters and wagons.
sheesh
W&L is THE University of Virgina
Does everyone at UVA drive Dukes of Hazard cars?
Can we please have a civilized discussion about b schools?
I still have a job and you don’t.
CNBC and Discovery Channel have a new series in the works: “Deadliest MBA” where crab fishermen change places with investment bankers for a season. In Episode one, Harvard MBAs drive the Cornelia Marie into the docks at Dutch Harbor while the crew of the Time Bandit beat the shit out of analyst who missed Target’s earnings by a penny.
@77 i laughed
I cried.
Now we are talking about crabs, too?
crab hands? schwartzman has a new show on discovery?
anyone like the new alaska adventure show where they eat rodents?
@81 – You mean the show about former Lehman Brothers employees living in Central Park?
too operations management, didn’t Pass/Fail
Playboy names University of Miami top U.S. party school
http://www.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idUSTRE53G4TN20090417
@69 – What is a Gulotta?
In Episode 2 of “Deadliest MBA”. Wharton MBAs repaint the Time Bandit with a large “Target” logo and accidentally steam into Russian Naval gunfire test areas; Phil gets a new tattoo but spits up some blood while reviewing a TARP repayment plan. Geithner get a “Greenhorn” hat sent to him from Sig who learns Moy sevretly has an MBA from MIT.
Gulottas? Isn’t that what guys at SAC wear in the summer; it looks like a skirt but is really a large pair of shorts? I asked our quants but they didn’t know.
@77 & 86 – genius… please keep going
@77 & 86 – genius… please keep going
I am a top 10 b-school dean, what is a finance?
Whens the top WMBA list coming out?
@77 & 86 – genius… please keep going
#57 rolls out of the 909.
Rice > Indiana, Emory
I can’t believe its not buttered lobster.
Does it chafe when you get sand in your UVA?
Georgia Tech?? Did they get on the list because they are in Atlanta?
@74,
Go skip over to VMI and tell them how tough you are.
Sig Hansen as the new CEO of Bank of America.
…I’d watch that show. I’d buy the goddamn DVD!
@85, 87 – a Gulotta is a guy you would know if you posted @30
What is a Gulotta? Also, what is VMI? Is it a venereal disease?
The Big Sleazy, Tommy Gulatto. He’s a wop genius.
What a faggy thread.
@103,
thank @101 for that.
Consider TGFD’s take on the subject.
In general, B-Schools are tool sheds. They serve as both incubators and nurseries for tools. In addition, tools (faculty) are stored there.
The higher up on the list, the bigger the shed and the bigger the tools.
The Guy from Delaware
Speaking for Haas alum, we stay in SF and work at funds who manage CalPERS money.
a VMI is an untreatable social disease that also causes you to constantly run in pairs
I blame #96.
In Episode 3 of “Deadliest MBA”, Harvard MBAs rename the “Wizard” and call it the “Willing Skilling”, then they sell all the crab pots and declare it “earnings from continuing operations”. An AIG MBA quits as a result, declaring he “went to MIT and never lost a pot…”.
Sig makes financial analysts work 30 hours at a stretch with no masturbation breaks after reviewing the current value of Sig’s self directed IRA. Moi wants his name spelled correctly after he hauls in the Allen Stanford account.
This thread is not gay enough, please try harder.
@48 Gordon? When does the new movie come out?
@49 – You think you have it bad? I work for AIG.
@110 – it doesn’t help that we had pretty much this exact same update a week ago.
I work at Credit Suisse Houston. What about me?
None of this has anything to do with UVA being shafted by US News.
Berkeley in the top ten? Since when? That proves there’s a flaw in the methodology.
And yes, Chicago is ranked too high. I remember when it was still a safety school.
More like:
1. Harvard
2. Wharton
3. Stanford
4. Columbia
5. Chi Booth
6. MIT
7. Northwestern
8. NYU
Simon School of Business at the University of Rochester…Please Discuss:
I go to Sewanee. Discuss.
@ 118 – never heard of it, therefore not worthe even looking on their website.
@ 118 – never heard of it, therefore not worthe even looking on their website.
LOBSTERWAGON
Berkles and MIT need to get the fuck out of here.
Looking for episode 4. I agree with @115 start a blog today, or when you get back to Dutch.
WASH U IN STL FOR LIFE
- THE JUDSON
F-L-O-R-I-D-A
S-T-A-T-E
Florida State, Florida State, Florida State
WOOOOOOOOOHHHHH!
I don’t get the whole LOBSTERWAGON thing. Did I miss something in another post or is my Georgetown education just not up to muster?
@77 hilarious the first time
@86 not so much the second
Edgar could destroy the vending machine challenge
Berkeley in the top ten? Since when? That proves there’s a flaw in the methodology.
And yes, Chicago is ranked too high. I remember when it was still a safety school.
@118 – FT has it #2 for finance but there isnt much else
has anyone ever actually worked with a Chicago GSB grad? They are terrible. Everyone knows its H, S, W and “the rest”
Deadliest Catch
This thread again? I used up all my ammunition last time!
I get sweaty when I type.
Can we talk about how Duke is the worst school on Earth…Seriously FUCKWA 12?????????
this is a joke
106
manage Calpers’ money or lose it?
Washington and Lee University should be top 25.
@138 – of course, everyone loves the c-school, except that this is MBA only, not undergrad
This thread again? I used up all my ammunition last time!
This thread again? I used up all my ammunition last time!
Hofstra #1 in 2010
Most of these comments sound like they’re coming from:
- Losers who don’t have the experience, connects, test scores, gpa to get into a top program
- Losers who can’t afford to go to a top program
“MBA programs are for losers scared of the real world.” Yup, I’m scared of the real world so I’m going to go to USC this fall and fuck some under grads and sniff choice blow. But you guys enjoy being $40k millionaires or unemployed losers and talking a big game on some finance blog.
God bless,
My dad is worth more than your dad
I love the guy that isn’t even in a top 3 in CA talking about “Losers who don’t have the experience, connects, test scores, gpa to get into a top program”
Guest@#143…
You sound like one of the tools TGFD talked about in my #105 post.
The Guy from Delaware
Does “Michigan” include an MBA from any school in the state?
i hear the Treasury is recruiting from Dewey, Cheatem & Howe
pls advise
@143
I doubt that!
-Howard Buffett
@143,
Make sure to have lots and lots of fun at USC. Maybe all that choice blow will cause your nose to collapse. Could be a good look for ya.
Only states it is acceptable to go to #2 are Ill (GSB/NU) or Mass (HBS/MIT)
Is it still illegal in Texas to pound your secretary in the ass while visiting the Alamo?
@151
yes, Thanks Bess for the playboy spread cant see that in jail.
Oh how predictable were the USC blasts…
Trust, I got into 5 of the top 20 programs, but I like USC the best for a variety of reasons. All of the schools on the list are good, it really comes down to personal preference… people who choose the highest ranked school they get accepted to JUST because it’s the highest ranked school are insecure fags.
- 143
@143/@153, pretty telling that you have sign your post the way you did. Don’t you have any accomplishments in life besides being born? Or better yet, why is it necessary for you to trumpet them? Pathetic.
@237 Oh wait, there’s no 237 yet. Nevermind.
Are there any quants in here? Any comments on Chicago’s Masters in Financial Mathematics?
@153 – Your logic is incredible. Keep it up, you are making everyone else on this board look brilliant.
@109 Brilliant, pls continue
@156 Why in god’s name would you want to be a quant?
Sincerely,
Been there, hated it
@158: I’m a computer science/math kid, it seemed like a good idea a couple of years ago…
The saddest thing about these threads are the idiots bragging about their “top 3 b-school” (loolz). You’re there because you couldn’t get into a decent law school.
95% of kids starting b-school right now will be working in operations in 2 years.
Seriously, have fun making 60K and being 30.
Sad pathetic pieces of shit.
TGFD: Too Gay For Drama?
Too Goy For Dreidel
Too Goy For Dreidel
The Guy Fancies Dick
That Guy’s Financially Downtrodden
@159 Probably still is a good idea for you then, if you have the temperament to go along with the skills. In my uninformed opinion, there’s a v. sharp gradation between hacks who apply things by rote and those with insight, skill, and the ability to explain what the hell they’re doing. The second, value-added group can do pretty well for themselves. The first generally fulfill back/mid-office stereotypes and are paid reliably for shitty jobs. I’m bored enough today to canvas opinion from some people in the MFM.
caveating, I’m pretty callow. I don’t like the work, which may help with my objectivity.
@165 Thanks. I’ve got a second internship at a bank in tech, nearly every software engineer says they dislike the quants and would never want to do the work.
That Guy Fondles Dudes
@157 It’s called sarcasm. But the fact remains a lot of the responses here are obviously from bitter/jealous people who are uncomfortable in their current situation. Go ahead and make fun of wealthy kids who have the FREEDOM to go take a couple years off from the monotony of the finance world, just because you can’t get into a top program or can’t “afford” to- it’s sad.
@161 Yeah, everyone’s dream is to be a fucking custodian. Nothing gets my dick harder than reviewing documents for the rest of my life.
- 143/153
@117
“1. Harvard
2. Wharton
3. Stanford
4. Columbia
5. Chi Booth
6. MIT
7. Northwestern
8. NYU”
About right – most accurate list yet I’ve seen on these boards.
For the poster asking about Yale. That’s not a program taken seriously by people who know MBA programs. Admissions standards are extremely low for Yale’s program (and its class size is tiny, so you can just imagine how high the accept rate would be if it was an average-sized program). Most people who go to that program do so in the hopes that people won’t know Yale’s MBA program is dirt. They refer to themselves as Yalies when in fact they are barely qualified to shine the shoes of real Yale undergrads. These people are an embarassment to Yale. It’s sad that Yale is trying so hard to build a business school, to no success. Dear Yale SOM-ers: stop bragging about going to Yale, you didn’t.
@34 MIT, the only legitimate program on your list. The other two you’ll just go through life with an inferiority complex. granted you’ll have that at Sloan too, but at least no will be laughing at you.
@34
Go to MIT, the only legitimate program on your list. The other two you’ll just go through life with an inferiority complex. granted you’ll have that at Sloan too, but at least no one will be laughing at you.
@171 = Yallie with soul burning Harvard envy
@171 = Yalie with soul burning Harvard envy
ok 171 get off your high horse. It’s just a two year break from your career to hopefully make some friends and take some interesting classes. By no means does an MBA, nor where you got it from, define your value as a person or even employee. I’m sure there are people who are smart at Yale SOM and people who are really dumb there- same as for all programs, including Harvard, Wharton and Stanford. You forget that admissions officers don’t screen for raw intelligence or academic accomplishment. The summa cum laude math or physics grad at Harvard or MIT doesn’t go to business school. Think you forgot that.
176 no one said anything about raw intelligence. learn to read. only comment made was about the poor quality of that program, which is a shame given that Yale is such a good school. most Yale SOM students would not get in at Stern.
175 I went to HBS and did not attend Yale at any point in my career, so Harvard envy? what? I don’t have to be a Yalie to feel bad for the Yalies with a loser school. Yale SOM grads get hired last and fired first in banking. when they get fired first it has nothing to do with the school they went to and everything w/quality of the work product. when they get hired last it’s to plug holes in incoming classes, and has everything to do with the school they went to.
171
171/177
Admission to HBS is indeed a goal that many people aspire to. It is definitely a well regarded program for F500, though perhaps a bit less among hedge funds and trading desks.
Would you agree with the view that HBS grads have weak quant skills and a lack of finance knowledge in general? Here are the new US News rankings for finance:
http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-business-schools/finance
Best Business Schools Specialty Rankings: Finance
Ranked in 2009
1 University of Pennsylvania (Wharton) Philadelphia, PA
2 University of Chicago (Booth) Chicago, IL
3 New York University (Stern) New York, NY
4 Massachusetts Institute of Technology (Sloan) Cambridge, MA
5 Stanford University Stanford, CA
6 Columbia University New York, NY
7 University of California–Los Angeles (Anderson) Los Angeles, CA
8 University of California–Berkeley (Haas) Berkeley, CA
9 Harvard University Boston, MA
10 Northwestern University (Kellogg) Evanston, IL
@117 should be doing the US News rankings b/c that list is about as accurate as you can get. And no, I didn’t go to HBS.
An HBS guy I went out with had major smegma problems. I don’t mind if you’re not circumcised, but for God’s sake, keep yourself clean. I heard he got laid off from his i-bank after we broke up.
@180
Ew, what the fuck?
180
you’re a guy right?
What about Baruch!?
Columbia still on the list? It’s MBA is the worst investment ever!!!
Columbia still on the list? It’s MBA is the worst investment ever!!!
Columbia still on the list? It’s MBA is the worst investment ever!!!
Columbia still on the list? It’s MBA is the worst investment ever!!!
@ 184-187
Your mom’s purchase at the sperm bank would top Columbia for that honor.
Fuqua School baby Fuqua rising all the way!!!
Who needs education?
I just visited http://www.mkapital.com
there is this guy ( M Kapital Syndicate, M is for Mafia?) looks like gang member, shows his statement ( is it real?), strange pictures and probably he is doing great on the backs of hard working people who are his bankers, brokers, people who studied many years to serve this kind of mafia.
The Al Capone times are upon us…
1. Being There
2. HBS
3. Sand Hill Sandlot
4. Esso
Proof:
a. Most successful investors never went to a brand name b-school.
b. The top echelon at east coast PE firms and west coast VCs require the HBS stamp, according to the bios.
c. People occasionally recruit Stanford sandcastle builders. Otherwise, the students realize they’ve wasted time, and revert to option 1.
d. Gas station attendants know less about EMH & corporate finance than Wharton/CBS/Stern/SOM grads, and are easier to unteach.
fuqua is a joke of a school….
noone respects that place