• 22 Apr 2009 at 3:47 PM

Oh, Yeah.

GM is defaulting.
GM Plans to Skip $1 Billion Debt Payment [The Wall Street Journal]

Comments (74)

  1. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 3:51 PM

    There are a lot of similarities between GM and a dog that dances to salsa music.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNlRsu1Dn0k

  2. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 3:52 PM

    There are a lot of similarities between GM and a dog that dances to salsa music.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNlRsu1Dn0k

  3. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 3:52 PM

    I am on the board of General Motors. What is “management”?

  4. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 3:54 PM

    GM makes planes? I just went for a spin in a Chevy Malibu. Had to get the parachute out.

  5. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 3:55 PM

    We’re from the Union, and we’re here to help…

  6. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 3:57 PM

    Too fail, didn’t big

  7. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 3:58 PM

    So GM says that a trip to bankruptcy court is “probable,” but expects bondholders to willingly exchange for shares and move down the capital stack?

  8. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 3:59 PM

    Dang – shoulda, coulda, woulda…

  9. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 4:00 PM

    @9 – I think you just blue yourself.

  10. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 4:00 PM

    And it only took 20 billion tax dollars to get to this point. Now that is a bargain!

  11. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 4:00 PM

    I wonder what kind of car my sweet Maxine drives?

  12. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 4:01 PM

    Grammer notice:
    Article should be GM’s defaulting or GM is defaulting.
    Not: GM’s is defaulting.

  13. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 4:01 PM

    Rattner will extend them funds if they buy a piece of Chooch residuals.

  14. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 4:03 PM

    @12 don’t know but i bet she was conceived in the back of a pickup truck

  15. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 4:05 PM

    @13- Grammar.

  16. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 4:07 PM

    Tony Danza

  17. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 4:09 PM

    @13 join GM they need guys like you. oh no, they have guys like you already…

  18. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 4:10 PM

    too broke, didn’t pay

  19. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 4:11 PM

    As long as I get union pay then I don’t care.

  20. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 4:12 PM

    Too union, didn’t save.

  21. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 4:15 PM

    i dare you to call default on me, i dare you!!

  22. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 4:15 PM

    too union, didn’t succeed

  23. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 4:16 PM

    Too union, didn’t save.

  24. Posted by lieutenant winslow | April 22, 2009 at 4:16 PM

    see, i read that headline in the kool-aid guy voice, but that’s just me

  25. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 4:17 PM

    i dare you to default me bitches!!

  26. Posted by Equity Private | April 22, 2009 at 4:17 PM

    @13: You’re right.
    Thanks!

  27. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 4:17 PM

    i dare you to default me bitches!!

  28. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 4:17 PM

    i dare you to default me bitches!!

  29. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 4:17 PM

    i dare you to default me bitches!!

  30. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 4:19 PM

    Fix the damn server.

  31. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 4:20 PM

    Fix the damn server.

  32. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 4:21 PM

    http://mt.dealbreaker.com/
    look here, its like a paralel universe where dealbreaker is fun

  33. Posted by Investorcluzo | April 22, 2009 at 4:23 PM

    @32-34 – how about you just go back to:
    http://messages.finance.yahoo.com
    and take your damn triple post with you!
    @5 – FTW! well played.

  34. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 4:23 PM

    sorry 35 there seems to be some echo echo echo

  35. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 4:24 PM

    @38
    don’t forget 30, this was a quadruple or full house

  36. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 4:25 PM

    Did anyone find the last 30 min of trading today to be absolutely insane?

  37. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 4:31 PM

    Friend of mine (formerly in finance at GM) told me a lot of the guys who took buyouts then moved down South and took nonunion jobs at the transplants. So, big bucks and who cares about the union, as long as I have a job?
    Why isn’t anyone all over the union for being the iceberg here? Why the bondholder hate when the unions are getting paid – not to mention the retirees getting 40 years of gold-plated healthcare and full bennies – and driving labor costs to unprofitable levels?

  38. Posted by Investorcluzo | April 22, 2009 at 4:32 PM

    @40 – good point, perhaps he/she should go to the google boards…

  39. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 4:33 PM

    Hi, we’re from TAPS and we’re here to help.

  40. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 4:37 PM

    surprise surprise puppy surprise..haha you actually thought we were going to pay back the loan..Suckers…
    -Ricky “Tricky Dicky” Wagoner

  41. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 4:39 PM

    I know they are trying to cut the union comp, but when we talk about corporate greed, why aren’t we talking about UAW benefits? Apologies if this has been pointed out but if they are going to complain about greed, don’t you think excessive benefits for the UAW qualifies as something the pinkies should be up in arms about?

  42. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 4:46 PM

    Another spelling notice: levee

  43. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 4:46 PM

    If it wasn’t for the excessive pay and benefits of the UAW folk, there would be no multiplier to leverage the “incentive pay” for auto execs. Just sayin’…..If GM didn’t have a union all over their ass they would have created one!

  44. Posted by Anal_yst | April 22, 2009 at 4:49 PM

    They took ‘R jobssss!!!!!!!!!!

  45. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 4:53 PM

    OH NO MY STOINKER
    - E. Reuther

  46. Posted by sugardaddy | April 22, 2009 at 5:04 PM

    Dem turk ner jebs

  47. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 5:10 PM

    @13/EP: Still a syntax error. GM defaulting is FTW.
    “GM’s” is a possessive since GM is a proper noun. “GM’s defaulting” is the “defaulting” that belongs to GM. As in “GM’s tragedy” or “GM’s bankruptcy”.

  48. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 5:25 PM

    @52
    You’re an ignorant asshat.
    See what I did there, with the contraction of “You” and “are”?

  49. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 5:25 PM

    @52:
    Many pages of the interwebs will explain to you the multiplicity of uses of the apostrophe. For example, this one:
    Apostrophes are used in contractions. A contraction is a word (or set of numbers) in which one or more letters (or numbers) have been omitted. The apostrophe shows this omission. Contractions are common in speaking and in informal writing. To use an apostrophe to create a contraction, place an apostrophe where the omitted letter(s) would go.
    Here are some examples:
    don’t = do not
    I’m = I am
    he’ll = he will
    who’s = who is
    Or:
    GM’s = GM is

  50. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 5:35 PM

    @54 so F’ck you, you c’ck s’cking l’oser…
    HOW’S that?

  51. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 5:37 PM

    @52/@53: so “John’s brother” == “John is brother?”

  52. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 5:40 PM

    Unions Killed America.

  53. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 5:41 PM

    “Papa John’s” == “Papa John is” ?
    ‘s is a possessive when used with a proper noun (exceptions for he, she, it, I). Isn’t this something we learn in 5th grade?

  54. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 5:44 PM

    @55,56
    There is help available.
    http://www.rong-chang.com/

  55. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 5:46 PM

    @53/54: I see what you’re getting at: ” ‘s ” == ” is ” as in “your mom’s in my business”. A bit colloquial but I suppose I have to get used to it.

  56. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 5:46 PM

    @54 – Aunt Paulette, if that’s you, I am really sorry I forgot to send a card acknowledging your retirement after 27 years of service to Shitz, Shitz & Morofvitz. Legal secretarydom will truly never be the same.

  57. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 5:50 PM

    @56 – again, I suggest you consult the interwebs:
    The apostrophe has three uses:
    1. to form possessives of nouns
    2. to show the omission of letters
    3. to indicate certain plurals of lowercase letters
    (Actually even this page doesn’t dot the i’s and cross the t’s as apostrophes are also used in phrases of time and measurement. It’s a bitch to rely on free resources – you never get your money’s worth.)

  58. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 5:53 PM

    Is GM trying to trigger the CDS before entering bankruptcy? That way they would be dealing with more motivated bondholders leading up to the bankruptcy hearings. Just a thought

  59. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 6:00 PM

    @63 – I think it’s just part of the cramdown dance. Obama wants the bondholders to take a massive haircut so the equity in new GM can be used to fund the pension plan so PBGC doesn’t get stuck with that bill.
    The real question is why does GM common trade above zero? Who owns that stock aside from index funds?
    And why, why do my index funds own GM? Thanks S&P. Great job you do managing that index.

  60. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 6:00 PM

    “you’s a hoe! (HOE)”
    your a-hoe

  61. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 6:06 PM

    @62 i think I got it-
    I fucked your MOM’S asshole for several hours and SHE IS very pleased.

  62. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 6:08 PM

    @63
    Call Maxine!
    Goldman has GM CDS.

  63. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 6:14 PM

    @66 huh – who would think someone that grammatically-challenged would be so familiar with the colon?

  64. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 6:15 PM

    @66
    You definitely DON’T have it.

  65. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 6:15 PM

    holy moly! this is definitely the big new of the day(assuming today is mid January 2009….)

  66. Posted by Equity Private | April 22, 2009 at 7:35 PM

    Nope, you are exactly right. Really, I have no excuse for that brain-dead typo in a headline like that.
    Thanks for catching it.

  67. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 8:24 PM

    I like how everyone blames the Unions for GM’s woes. Do any of you know what the all in these Masters of Universe are pulling in (yes even including benefits).
    Funny I dont recall many calling the rank and file of the major investment firms dolts, dullards, and the cause of the firms downfall. Look at which firms have the worst debt burden–must be due to those excessive coffee breaks right?
    I’m not defending GM, but lets at least not be hypocrites.
    [mea a cupla to any who where equal opportunity bashers as some on here have been]
    flame on…
    -C

  68. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 9:12 PM

    I don’t believe it, then again I still have Confederate war bonds.
    Rusty

  69. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 9:13 PM

    GM is shutting their plants for 9 weeks. Hopefully during that time we’ll realize how much GM means to us.

  70. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 9:32 PM

    I am a union leader, who is John Galt?

  71. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 9:41 PM

    C@72, true. The entire company runs on a culture of “what’s in it for me?” People seem to forget that they are in a competitive marketplace. I don’t believe management should get paid to have driven the company into the ground though there’s at least some argument that C-level executives are paid well at other companies. On the other hand, nowhere else do you find someone with only a high school degree getting paid as richly as these auto union workers.
    And yet you see the Obama administration bend over backwards trying to save these overpriced workers. Why would bondholders accept a deal where they are getting market price on their bonds and nothing else when they can force the company into bankruptcy and get more? Makes no sense.

  72. Posted by guest | April 22, 2009 at 10:24 PM

    @73 if you’re ever short of cash in Mississippi…

  73. Posted by Lowly Assistant | April 23, 2009 at 1:11 AM

    68,
    Excellent.

  74. Posted by guest | April 23, 2009 at 12:17 PM

    You I dig your shit EP. I was just trying to be helpful. Maybe the butt-kissers on this site should treat you and Bess like people instead of infallible gods.

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