I don't know about you, but on this day of taxes, I really enjoy thinking about how my hard earned money is going to such a great, beautiful, landmark of a city, Detroit and it's fantastic people.
@4- my reading of it wasn't that he's thrown water on their plans (because he has something against "sucking testicles") but that he'd *gotten them wet.*
The original tea party planners from '08 and even '07 planned the protests about how high taxes are going to be in the future (from you know, borrowing more money than God can print).
9 Don't let the jokers on the other side of the aisle get by without an earful for their part in this mess. They are the biggest hypocrites IMO for saying one thing and doing anotherr. Obama is just doin' his thang - like he said he would. They're all FULL OF SHIT. God bless George Carlin.
What I am saying is Obama's response was not actually a response at all.
Americans need a "government that is working to create jobs and opportunity for them, rather than simply giving more and more to those at the very top in the false hope that wealth will trickle down," Obama said.
The Tea Party stands against his philosophy. Government spending is out of control; look at the deficits we are faced with today. The answer the government says is bigger, government and more spending by taking to the top and giving to the bottom who does not have the competence, desire or true ability to make it to the top and the government can not give people the “ability”. If you want to inspire people, motivate them! If you can’t pay your bills, it is your OWN fault. People need to learn how to accept responsibility and accountability. PEOPLE ARE ENTITLED TO NOTHING THEY HAVE NOT EARNED, ability is not equal and it many be “unfair” and that’s the reality.
I feel great knowing that the $10k that I had to send the government today is going to pay down mortgages owned by deadbeats who haven't paid their mortgage in months or in some cases even a year and also to people who were greedy and took out mortgages for more money than they could ever make in their lifetime. This $10k should have gone towards MY down payment on a home, but instead it is going to people who defaulted on theirs. Damn me for being responsible.
There is nothing wrong with Detroit. In fact great things are happening there. An organization called Habitat for Hamtramck is giving away homes for free. If you want to know more, check out the webpage at www.habitatforhamtramck.org or read this report http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-243457
This isn't the government bailing anybody out, these are regular people trying to make a difference.
amen 21
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dear big ears + 534 (not you dr paul)
go fuck yourself...get out of my wallet
obama is so clueless its actually scary. the more people who are on the dole (bottom 50%) the more people who would not vote against receiving their paycheck out of our wallets. fuck them and fuck this whole ponzi system
@21 your 10,000 grand went to Obama's kids jungle gym on thr White House lawn.
It was my 50,000 that is on its way to the poor and under privledged as well as pet projects of senetors looking to win the vote one more time...
@15 "joker on the other side of the asile" I dont remeber any of them running for "change". you basically just said that the GOP and DEms are the same. Is that what you voted for? keep defending the dems and write that check you total asshole.
@ 36 Die. I'm all for free markets, but I do admit that a natural check on income equality is probably a good thing. Taken to the extreme, in a completely globalized and super-efficient world the single smartest guy should hold 100% of the wealth, while 6bn others have nothing. Economically rational? Yep. And if it did happen, I'm sure all those folks (yourself included) would oh-so-passively just "deal with it".
@41 They are the same they just have different uses for your/our money. If you can't pull your head out of your ass to see that, then there is no hope - kill yourself.
Instead of being on dealbreaker all day - why don't you wander over the IRS statistics website and see that taxes paid as a % of income is about the same once a household makes about 100K...
Tax breaks and incentives disproportionally go to the wealthiest.
In fact, the top 100 earners in 2007 paid approx. 17% of their taxable income in federal taxes.
@ 48 fail. The 100 earners in 2007 are not posting here, for whatever reason. Take your cap-gains based garbage elsewhere. This is a working class site.
so make 17% the national flat tax for everyone and every company which covers everything. no excise tax, no gas tax, no cigarette tax, no beer tax, no tariffs, no carbon tax
abolish the irs, end the fed, and mandate term limits for congress
@44 If you want to give your salary to social programs and green technology as well as statues in small town parks and testing on wood and a train to vegas from LA. Go fucking do it man, write that check, its your porogative as a US cit. If i dont want to pay for that shit I think I shouldnt have to. i should be allowed to choose where my taxes go through CHARITY and other expenses...what does Obama's dick taste like you fuckin loser.
@58 If you want to give your salary to social(war on drugs) programs and green(useless military) technology as well as statues in small town parks and testing on wood and a train to vegas from LA(I agree). Go fucking do it man, write that check, its your porogative as a US cit(Never said I did). If i dont want to pay for that shit I think I shouldnt have to(Me either). i should be allowed to choose where my taxes go through CHARITY and other expenses(I'm with ya)...what does Obama's dick taste like you fuckin loser( I don't know but they all fuck us in the ass - here's some KY for ya).
sometimes it takes a market crash to realize that things as is arent so sustainable and that black swans should cause us to rethink how we live. government has tripled down on shit policy and is fucking us all with a very large dildo
@60 right, that's the way taxes work. i didn't want my money to go to the war in iraq so i stopped paying my taxes. i didn't want my money funneled directly to dick cheney's pockets either so i stopped sending in my tax payments for the last 8 years.
Why is it that the tax discussions here and at the WSJ ignore payroll taxes, which for lower income people are a significant part of the total. Add that in and you'll see that for higher income people the burden is actualy not a burden at all.
I wish I had your balls 62, but I have a thing about goin' to jail. I said the govt is fucking us all in the ass, but as far as I can tell it is still a figure of speech. Be careful, and keep up the fight.
@44 &62- clearly you are not understanding my opine...
The war on drugs, Iraq, Afgan, etc... these are expendatures where the benefits are realized by ALL Americans. disagree with the the war all you want but the intenion was to keep us safe as a nation. Not just people who voted for bush.
Capt O'merica's plan is to spend our money on programs that fit his agenda and subsequently help a much smaller group of people, not everyone cares about ACORN. You can say what you want about the Iraq war but we were safer under Bush then under Clinton so his policy worked for us as compared with Clintons (who cut military spending). lets chat in 8 yrs and see what Al Quada has done under bama. One thing we know for sure is we will have 4 trillion in debt under bama to Bush's 1.4. Staggering difference.
Shouldn't you be cooking up some more laughable policy changes and acronym laden bailout schemes presumably designed to restore stability to the markets as opposed to posting on this board?
@45
I'm assuming you refer to 41's mention of a "jungle gym". So subtle and so funny. Well played.
Is "jungle gym" racist as in "jungle fever"? Like how the disparate races of wood and plastic come together in a tangled, shining, smooth playful mess?
70 Clinton cut military spending? Its called the peace dividend, the result of the toppling of the Soviet Union and was a continuation of what began with Reagan and picked up steam under Bush I.
Even better: "You can say what you want about the Iraq war but we were safer under Bush then (sic) under Clinton so his policy worked". I guess that's true provided you ignore 9/11. A big exception wouldn't you say?
You clearly are a very stupid person. In fact, approaching cretin-level intelligence. Go back to doing what you probably get paid very little to do. You don't want to miss that 5 o'clock boat for Staten Island.
Where do you people come from? There used to be mostly intelligent comments. Maybe the job cuts mean that normal people are too busy to be commenting here.
70 here- I live on Park ave but lets put that aside for a moment. I cannot agrue with ANYONE who thinks Bush is at fault for 9/11 after 8 years of Clinton and 15 differnt attacks on his watch including the first WTC attack. i appreciate your knowledge of the Peace dividend. I do wonder how you can defend Clinton thinking we were at peace while Al queda proved time and time agian we were not. Just because he ignored it doesnt mean it wasnt there. You scare me...you must be from NJ.
79 - Are you in love with your black car? Does it love you back? If your car doesn't love you back, then the relationship you have is an unrequited love between an automobile and a deviant individual.
Keep digging (deeper into that cave of stupidity).
Helpful hint: Refresh your browser every now and again.
In the (very likely) event that you still don't understand the humor:
45 commented that 41 (for clarity's sake, YOU are 41 in this explanation...so try to stay with me here) was a racist because 41 (again...still you dumb ass) said the $10K in tax money was spent on a “jungle gym” for Obama's kids.
45 sarcastically noted that you were racist for having stated that a black President purchased a “jungle gym” for his black children. 45 sarcastically interpreted your post to infer that Obama's kids were little monkeys (which are often found in...wait for it...jungles!).
To be clear, your original intent matters not. It is apparent that 45 finds enjoyment in twisting other people's words. This is a trait (or personality flaw) that I happen to appreciate and I'm sure he was being sarcastic in calling you a racist. It follows then that I was merely communicating that I enjoyed the subtle, dry, and sarcastically perceptive wit that 45 chose to display.
For someone that posts under the anonymous “guest” handle, you sure a sensitive little bag of drivel now aren’t you?
@80
Re: your final paragraph
Agreed. Where’s nurse Ratched when you need her?
@79 That was just a reference to “One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest” If you didn’t already know that, consider it further confirmation that you’
What the tea baggers have failed to realize is that past data shows that when the economic inequality narrows, the top of the heap see a higher % gain in income.
Fortunately for democrats, either through luck or good policy (??) this gap shrinks under their leadership and grows under republicans.
From a non-governmental perspective - the US has failed miserably to keep pace with the emerging markets and even some developed markets in having a sound infrastructure and usable infrastructure. Private investment has failed miserably in this realm. Unfortunately, the only body left to to build it is the government.
Do you see what an idiot you are by calling yourself "guy on park" or telling us where you live as if that is supposed to validate what you are arguing.
I find it odd that the government loves to throw money at problems as if that will solve all the problems. The same goes for the IMF. When they don't see the returns the answer is always more money. The answer is the same for schools, welfare etc. No one ever thinks maybe we should stop spending. Ah but then people like Barney Frank, pelosi and Obama would not get powerful if people were responsible for their own actions. The super rich talk about wanting to pay more but then call for increases on ordinary income and keep their salary <250.
The liberals love to increase taxes on the "rich" (250k or more) to increase spending on social programs, welfare and apparently lots of pet projects for small town USA. Ie nothing that helps the peopel who are paying for it.
The issue is clear. The targeted tax payers are not Buffet or Gates or Trump. they are hard working americans whos income level is based on the cost of living in their city. sure they have more money then many but isnt that the basis of our finacial system? to say a person who earns 250k shoud pay higher taxes as a general rule throughout the nation is unfair. I submitt that the cost of living in NYC (after NY State/city taxes) is far more then anyone living in Ohio, nebraska, alaska, florida and $250,000 income in NYC is like 650,000 in other states. Yet the fed taxation level is the same. All obama is doing is spreading other people's wealth and has created a situation where there is less disposable income and less incentive to employ or even succeed. He is deciding for you how YOUR FUCKING HARD EARNED MONEY should be spent and who HE thinks deserves it mor ethen you. All while he lives like royalty and above the very rules he is pushing, on our tax money. Did anyone see that fucking swing set? what did that set us back?
@102 I completely agree. Talked to an old friend from HS today who is a big O supporter. We basically had similar upbringings but he now has a kid and has been bouncing from job to job and is now a chef who is getting paid under the table. He said 3 times man I wish I could do something like you. My thought was why didn't you. But now he thinks that he deserves this incredible life at my expense. That just really pissed me off because I worked really hard to get where I am while he f'ed around.
Private investment did not fail. The government's low fed funds rate combined with housing experiments did. Any other part of this crisis is an offshoot of those government interventions into the market place (from both sides of the aisle). See California electricity markets and biofuels for more examples of the disastrous effects that occur when you pervert the marketplace. For a scenario to watch in the future, see health care intervention.
Its not much more complex than that. Creating perverse incentives, through programs with good intentions, tends to to do far more harm than good. The law of unintended consequences is usually unforgiving. Inflating asset bubbles by means of politicized Fed policy has sown the seed of "private investment failure." If only government intervened in the investment world no market would lose money! Precisely what we need.
Next time you opine, pretend you have a basic understanding of economics.
The fact is, that Obama is ramming Socialism down our throats, while ramming new taxes up the ass of the rich. Sort of a "Socialist-Double Penetration". The mendacity of his rhetoric is the "reach-around" if you will.
His "tax cuts for 95% of working people" ploy is pure Alinsky-ite evil. It is intended to create two mutually antagonistic political classes (can;t have class-warfare without class distinctions, y'know) He wants there to be a class of dedicated tax-consumers, set up against those of us who produce wealth. The Proletarians vs. the John Galts.
If you doubt that there is a political polarization strategy, just listen to the tone of the reporting by the Government-Media Complex. It sounds exactly like Pravda under Stalin reporting on the Republican Convention.
The end game is Socialist Revolution. Don't think it's not.
Do you want to know where this is leading? Read the History of the Spanish Civil War. These Tea-Parties are reactionary, yes, but the provocation of Obama is much more insidious and much more dangerous.
Yes I am extrapolating out to extremes to make the point. But it's so great an exaggeration that it shouldn't scare the shit out of you.
My money's on the Texans who warned Washington they are prepared to depart the union.
For 30 years there has been a political polarization occurring in America. When enough pressure is applied, we could be faced with large scale organized civil conflict. However, this potential is maximized when the political right feels pressured because they are the ones with the nuts and know-how to knuckle up.
I disagree with the idea that you're entitled to a lower tax rate because cost of living in NYC is higher than in Ohio, nebraska, alaska, florida. Move there if you want the lower cost of living, otherwise, shaddap. It's the price you pay to live somewhere like NYC.
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 12:56PM
"Warns against scaring people"?? What?
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 12:56PM
first and wet!
Posted by peWonderWoman , Apr 15, 2009 1:00PM
Uhh... Obama? The Tea Party represents fiscal irresponsibility and out of control government spending.
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 1:01PM
What does Obama have against sucking testicles?
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 1:04PM
Nothing personal against BHO, but my brother is getting a little too heavy to carry. I'll spend my money as I see fit.
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 1:06PM
I'm scared of the government.
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 1:08PM
I don't know about you, but on this day of taxes, I really enjoy thinking about how my hard earned money is going to such a great, beautiful, landmark of a city, Detroit and it's fantastic people.
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 1:09PM
fantastically delightful
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 1:10PM
@3 means by "govt spending" above the usual bullshit..
Real pork, like 4.5 million spent on "why pigs smell."
1.4million spent on "better uses for wood"
Rangle $50,000 on a fucking windmil for an AIDS center in the middle eof NYC!!!
Just to name a small few.
Obama is a such a dick with ears its painful.
Posted by FUNdamental , Apr 15, 2009 1:12PM
PeWW - so what you're trying to say is that Obama is the lead teabagger around?
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 1:12PM
I just enjoy seeing Rex Nutting talking about tea-baggers. Go go king nut!
Posted by Bess Levin , Apr 15, 2009 1:12PM
@4- my reading of it wasn't that he's thrown water on their plans (because he has something against "sucking testicles") but that he'd *gotten them wet.*
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 1:14PM
Nothing worse than a wet tea bag.
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 1:15PM
The original tea party planners from '08 and even '07 planned the protests about how high taxes are going to be in the future (from you know, borrowing more money than God can print).
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 1:16PM
9 Don't let the jokers on the other side of the aisle get by without an earful for their part in this mess. They are the biggest hypocrites IMO for saying one thing and doing anotherr. Obama is just doin' his thang - like he said he would. They're all FULL OF SHIT. God bless George Carlin.
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 1:17PM
What do you expect? The headline writers are from the NY Post.
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 1:23PM
I love that CNN et al is trying to paint this all as nothing more than a protest of bailouts. Hooray for state-controlled media!
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 1:24PM
Tea Baggers!!! LOL!!! Can't believe they can say that over and over again on network news....What fun!
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 1:30PM
I like getting tea bagged while wet.
Obama can suck it.
Posted by peWonderWoman , Apr 15, 2009 1:31PM
What I am saying is Obama's response was not actually a response at all.
Americans need a "government that is working to create jobs and opportunity for them, rather than simply giving more and more to those at the very top in the false hope that wealth will trickle down," Obama said.
The Tea Party stands against his philosophy. Government spending is out of control; look at the deficits we are faced with today. The answer the government says is bigger, government and more spending by taking to the top and giving to the bottom who does not have the competence, desire or true ability to make it to the top and the government can not give people the “ability”. If you want to inspire people, motivate them! If you can’t pay your bills, it is your OWN fault. People need to learn how to accept responsibility and accountability. PEOPLE ARE ENTITLED TO NOTHING THEY HAVE NOT EARNED, ability is not equal and it many be “unfair” and that’s the reality.
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 1:31PM
I feel great knowing that the $10k that I had to send the government today is going to pay down mortgages owned by deadbeats who haven't paid their mortgage in months or in some cases even a year and also to people who were greedy and took out mortgages for more money than they could ever make in their lifetime. This $10k should have gone towards MY down payment on a home, but instead it is going to people who defaulted on theirs. Damn me for being responsible.
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 1:33PM
There is nothing wrong with Detroit. In fact great things are happening there. An organization called Habitat for Hamtramck is giving away homes for free. If you want to know more, check out the webpage at www.habitatforhamtramck.org or read this report http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-243457
This isn't the government bailing anybody out, these are regular people trying to make a difference.
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 1:35PM
@21: Amen!
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 1:41PM
Fuckin' A 21!
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 1:44PM
I paid $46,324 in federal taxes for 2008. It's so nice to see Obama & Co show such disdain and loathing for the real "taxpayers" in this country.
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 1:44PM
@ 21
You have no understanding of what the 0.1% of federal bailout money that is being spent on adjusting mortgages is going towards at all, do you?
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 1:45PM
@21
Quit your whining biotch and send me my money.
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 1:46PM
Well for all of you that are fed up and will be in the Wall St area around 7PM - show up for the rally. It's in front of City Hall Park on Braodway.
http://www.parcbench.com/article_details.php?RId=103&topic=front
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 1:46PM
amen 21
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dear big ears + 534 (not you dr paul)
go fuck yourself...get out of my wallet
obama is so clueless its actually scary. the more people who are on the dole (bottom 50%) the more people who would not vote against receiving their paycheck out of our wallets. fuck them and fuck this whole ponzi system
needed to vent. carry on boys
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 1:47PM
26 Enlighten us taxpayers.
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 1:49PM
@ 26
eat a dick
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 1:50PM
@ 29
Agree the system isn't optimal, but those are the breaks. In the context of a democracy, see this as a natural lower-bound for income inequality.
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 1:51PM
@ 21: No, your tax money is being used to prop up the Banks so you may continue to read Dealbreaker at work, presumably at a Bank.
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 1:54PM
@ 33 banks aren't pronouns. also, you are gay.
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 1:55PM
What does Obama have against sucking big sacks of testicles?
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 1:56PM
@ 21: No, your tax money is being used to prop up the Banks so you may continue to read Dealbreaker at work, presumably at a Bank.
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 1:58PM
32 That's pretty nonchalant - grow a pair or die.
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 1:59PM
@33 if facts don't support your crazy bullshit attack grammar
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 2:03PM
I don't get it. What is a gaunlet?
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 2:03PM
NO INCOME TAXEZ!1
ALSO, TEABAGS
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 2:04PM
@21 your 10,000 grand went to Obama's kids jungle gym on thr White House lawn.
It was my 50,000 that is on its way to the poor and under privledged as well as pet projects of senetors looking to win the vote one more time...
@15 "joker on the other side of the asile" I dont remeber any of them running for "change". you basically just said that the GOP and DEms are the same. Is that what you voted for? keep defending the dems and write that check you total asshole.
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 2:05PM
@ 32
bullshit. the system has failed. our "leaders" have failed. to accept failure is to fail yourself and your kids who are already 50k+ in the hole
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 2:08PM
@ 36 Die. I'm all for free markets, but I do admit that a natural check on income equality is probably a good thing. Taken to the extreme, in a completely globalized and super-efficient world the single smartest guy should hold 100% of the wealth, while 6bn others have nothing. Economically rational? Yep. And if it did happen, I'm sure all those folks (yourself included) would oh-so-passively just "deal with it".
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 2:08PM
@41 They are the same they just have different uses for your/our money. If you can't pull your head out of your ass to see that, then there is no hope - kill yourself.
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 2:10PM
41 = racist
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 2:15PM
MOOR TBAGZ PLZ
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 2:15PM
Every bone in my body wants to disagree with 43. Kinda has a point though.
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 2:16PM
Instead of being on dealbreaker all day - why don't you wander over the IRS statistics website and see that taxes paid as a % of income is about the same once a household makes about 100K...
Tax breaks and incentives disproportionally go to the wealthiest.
In fact, the top 100 earners in 2007 paid approx. 17% of their taxable income in federal taxes.
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 2:21PM
the tag for this story is the funniest thing ever
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 2:21PM
THEY CALL ME MISTER TIBBS!
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 2:21PM
@ 48 fail. The 100 earners in 2007 are not posting here, for whatever reason. Take your cap-gains based garbage elsewhere. This is a working class site.
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 2:22PM
@ 48
so make 17% the national flat tax for everyone and every company which covers everything. no excise tax, no gas tax, no cigarette tax, no beer tax, no tariffs, no carbon tax
abolish the irs, end the fed, and mandate term limits for congress
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 2:22PM
"I am going to go America all over your asses!"
-Charlie
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 2:23PM
"In fact, the top 100 earners in 2007 paid approx. 17% of their taxable income in federal taxes."
Way too much!
Posted by Lowly Assistant , Apr 15, 2009 2:25PM
God bless you, 52.
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 2:28PM
52 That make too much sense. Please get back to reality.
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 2:30PM
@ 55
thanks...my eyes have been opened the last 6-8 months. we are fucked unless we starve the beast.
our founding fathers revolted over a 3% hike in tea tariff. what the fuck are we waiting for?
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 2:30PM
@44 If you want to give your salary to social programs and green technology as well as statues in small town parks and testing on wood and a train to vegas from LA. Go fucking do it man, write that check, its your porogative as a US cit. If i dont want to pay for that shit I think I shouldnt have to. i should be allowed to choose where my taxes go through CHARITY and other expenses...what does Obama's dick taste like you fuckin loser.
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 2:33PM
@57
No shit. Maybe, just maybe we're slowly pulling the wool off our eyes.
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 2:40PM
@58 If you want to give your salary to social(war on drugs) programs and green(useless military) technology as well as statues in small town parks and testing on wood and a train to vegas from LA(I agree). Go fucking do it man, write that check, its your porogative as a US cit(Never said I did). If i dont want to pay for that shit I think I shouldnt have to(Me either). i should be allowed to choose where my taxes go through CHARITY and other expenses(I'm with ya)...what does Obama's dick taste like you fuckin loser( I don't know but they all fuck us in the ass - here's some KY for ya).
44
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 2:42PM
@ 57
sometimes it takes a market crash to realize that things as is arent so sustainable and that black swans should cause us to rethink how we live. government has tripled down on shit policy and is fucking us all with a very large dildo
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 2:43PM
@60 right, that's the way taxes work. i didn't want my money to go to the war in iraq so i stopped paying my taxes. i didn't want my money funneled directly to dick cheney's pockets either so i stopped sending in my tax payments for the last 8 years.
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 2:44PM
sorry...61 should @ 59
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 2:46PM
As I already said elsewhere, only little people and Americans pay taxes. Teabagging, me like.
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 2:48PM
Obama is making Hitler look like a little kid in a candy store.
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 2:50PM
Why is it that the tax discussions here and at the WSJ ignore payroll taxes, which for lower income people are a significant part of the total. Add that in and you'll see that for higher income people the burden is actualy not a burden at all.
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 2:50PM
I wish I had your balls 62, but I have a thing about goin' to jail. I said the govt is fucking us all in the ass, but as far as I can tell it is still a figure of speech. Be careful, and keep up the fight.
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 2:53PM
news flash to 67 62 is joking. Duh..
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 3:00PM
65: hahahahaha... hahahahahaa. that remark touches so many levels of paranoid insanity. well done
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 3:05PM
@44 &62- clearly you are not understanding my opine...
The war on drugs, Iraq, Afgan, etc... these are expendatures where the benefits are realized by ALL Americans. disagree with the the war all you want but the intenion was to keep us safe as a nation. Not just people who voted for bush.
Capt O'merica's plan is to spend our money on programs that fit his agenda and subsequently help a much smaller group of people, not everyone cares about ACORN. You can say what you want about the Iraq war but we were safer under Bush then under Clinton so his policy worked for us as compared with Clintons (who cut military spending). lets chat in 8 yrs and see what Al Quada has done under bama. One thing we know for sure is we will have 4 trillion in debt under bama to Bush's 1.4. Staggering difference.
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 3:06PM
@60 - you need a good ol fashion a$$ whoopin....
Posted by HeadlessHorseman , Apr 15, 2009 3:08PM
@62
Mr. Geithner,
Shouldn't you be cooking up some more laughable policy changes and acronym laden bailout schemes presumably designed to restore stability to the markets as opposed to posting on this board?
@45
I'm assuming you refer to 41's mention of a "jungle gym". So subtle and so funny. Well played.
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 3:11PM
Best tag ever
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 3:12PM
@72 and the other idiot
how is jungle gym racist? I cant wait to hear this.
Jungle gym guy
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 3:19PM
70 What's a few trillion among friends. Man you're thick.
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 3:20PM
@72 and 74
Is "jungle gym" racist as in "jungle fever"? Like how the disparate races of wood and plastic come together in a tangled, shining, smooth playful mess?
Posted by HeadlessHorseman , Apr 15, 2009 3:20PM
@ 74
You've got to fine tune your sarcasm detection equipment if you want to play on these boards.
I assure you that neither 45 nor myself actually thinks that you're a racist. We simply enjoy being sarcastic assholes.
This is no place for training wheels pal.
Posted by Lowly Assistant , Apr 15, 2009 3:22PM
76 is on fyyyyyerrrrrrrrr!
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 3:23PM
@76 Jungle fever is ok since Spike lee is black i guess...I have no idea what the fuck those idiots are talking about.
My car is black...now what?
waiting on the explanation.
-JGG
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 3:27PM
70 Clinton cut military spending? Its called the peace dividend, the result of the toppling of the Soviet Union and was a continuation of what began with Reagan and picked up steam under Bush I.
Even better: "You can say what you want about the Iraq war but we were safer under Bush then (sic) under Clinton so his policy worked". I guess that's true provided you ignore 9/11. A big exception wouldn't you say?
You clearly are a very stupid person. In fact, approaching cretin-level intelligence. Go back to doing what you probably get paid very little to do. You don't want to miss that 5 o'clock boat for Staten Island.
Where do you people come from? There used to be mostly intelligent comments. Maybe the job cuts mean that normal people are too busy to be commenting here.
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 3:28PM
@77 Hey, you know what they say: see a broad to get dat booty yak 'em...
...leg 'er down a smack 'em yak 'em!
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 3:30PM
Cold got to be!
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 3:37PM
@78 - Poor spelling is racist.
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 3:37PM
@80
70 here- I live on Park ave but lets put that aside for a moment. I cannot agrue with ANYONE who thinks Bush is at fault for 9/11 after 8 years of Clinton and 15 differnt attacks on his watch including the first WTC attack. i appreciate your knowledge of the Peace dividend. I do wonder how you can defend Clinton thinking we were at peace while Al queda proved time and time agian we were not. Just because he ignored it doesnt mean it wasnt there. You scare me...you must be from NJ.
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 3:41PM
@84 - I am from Hempstead.
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 3:45PM
79 - Are you in love with your black car? Does it love you back? If your car doesn't love you back, then the relationship you have is an unrequited love between an automobile and a deviant individual.
But, I don't judge.
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 3:52PM
85 I wasnt really that far off
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 3:59PM
These people are angry and dumb; dumb as a... er, well, dumb as a teabag, I guess
Posted by HeadlessHorseman , Apr 15, 2009 4:09PM
@79
Keep digging (deeper into that cave of stupidity).
Helpful hint: Refresh your browser every now and again.
In the (very likely) event that you still don't understand the humor:
45 commented that 41 (for clarity's sake, YOU are 41 in this explanation...so try to stay with me here) was a racist because 41 (again...still you dumb ass) said the $10K in tax money was spent on a “jungle gym” for Obama's kids.
45 sarcastically noted that you were racist for having stated that a black President purchased a “jungle gym” for his black children. 45 sarcastically interpreted your post to infer that Obama's kids were little monkeys (which are often found in...wait for it...jungles!).
To be clear, your original intent matters not. It is apparent that 45 finds enjoyment in twisting other people's words. This is a trait (or personality flaw) that I happen to appreciate and I'm sure he was being sarcastic in calling you a racist. It follows then that I was merely communicating that I enjoyed the subtle, dry, and sarcastically perceptive wit that 45 chose to display.
For someone that posts under the anonymous “guest” handle, you sure a sensitive little bag of drivel now aren’t you?
@80
Re: your final paragraph
Agreed. Where’s nurse Ratched when you need her?
@79 That was just a reference to “One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest” If you didn’t already know that, consider it further confirmation that you’
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 4:09PM
@88 speaking of teabags hows your mom?
Posted by HeadlessHorseman , Apr 15, 2009 4:11PM
cont'd from above
you're more than a little out of your depth.
Get down,
HH
Commence with the heckling about the irony of truncating my own post while lecturing some newbie.
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 4:12PM
What the tea baggers have failed to realize is that past data shows that when the economic inequality narrows, the top of the heap see a higher % gain in income.
Fortunately for democrats, either through luck or good policy (??) this gap shrinks under their leadership and grows under republicans.
From a non-governmental perspective - the US has failed miserably to keep pace with the emerging markets and even some developed markets in having a sound infrastructure and usable infrastructure. Private investment has failed miserably in this realm. Unfortunately, the only body left to to build it is the government.
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 4:22PM
84 Yeah, Park Avenue, Staten Island. I can tell by the spelling and grammar.
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 4:24PM
92 Yeah, viva Che!
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 4:30PM
@53 Rock Flag and Eaaaaggle!
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 4:33PM
Quick question: Are bankers welcome at these Tea Parties?
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 4:35PM
@93 you are an anal retentive fag.
guy on park...
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 4:50PM
"Guy on park"
Do you see what an idiot you are by calling yourself "guy on park" or telling us where you live as if that is supposed to validate what you are arguing.
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 5:02PM
Any idiot protesting bailout and commenting on dealbreaker is a back-office drone.
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 5:08PM
@98 i was making a point you dipshit. If you read the post I was responding to you would understand.
hate the game not the player bitch.
Posted by sugardaddy , Apr 15, 2009 5:12PM
I find it odd that the government loves to throw money at problems as if that will solve all the problems. The same goes for the IMF. When they don't see the returns the answer is always more money. The answer is the same for schools, welfare etc. No one ever thinks maybe we should stop spending. Ah but then people like Barney Frank, pelosi and Obama would not get powerful if people were responsible for their own actions. The super rich talk about wanting to pay more but then call for increases on ordinary income and keep their salary <250.
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 5:50PM
The liberals love to increase taxes on the "rich" (250k or more) to increase spending on social programs, welfare and apparently lots of pet projects for small town USA. Ie nothing that helps the peopel who are paying for it.
The issue is clear. The targeted tax payers are not Buffet or Gates or Trump. they are hard working americans whos income level is based on the cost of living in their city. sure they have more money then many but isnt that the basis of our finacial system? to say a person who earns 250k shoud pay higher taxes as a general rule throughout the nation is unfair. I submitt that the cost of living in NYC (after NY State/city taxes) is far more then anyone living in Ohio, nebraska, alaska, florida and $250,000 income in NYC is like 650,000 in other states. Yet the fed taxation level is the same. All obama is doing is spreading other people's wealth and has created a situation where there is less disposable income and less incentive to employ or even succeed. He is deciding for you how YOUR FUCKING HARD EARNED MONEY should be spent and who HE thinks deserves it mor ethen you. All while he lives like royalty and above the very rules he is pushing, on our tax money. Did anyone see that fucking swing set? what did that set us back?
Posted by sugardaddy , Apr 15, 2009 6:05PM
@102 I completely agree. Talked to an old friend from HS today who is a big O supporter. We basically had similar upbringings but he now has a kid and has been bouncing from job to job and is now a chef who is getting paid under the table. He said 3 times man I wish I could do something like you. My thought was why didn't you. But now he thinks that he deserves this incredible life at my expense. That just really pissed me off because I worked really hard to get where I am while he f'ed around.
Posted by guest , Apr 15, 2009 6:51PM
Ah, yes. The government's tax base should be based off of your own living expenses. Brilliant.
The decision of where to work and live should include said consideration. Arguing otherwise makes you sound like an entitled liberal.
Posted by guest , Apr 16, 2009 12:12AM
@92
Private investment did not fail. The government's low fed funds rate combined with housing experiments did. Any other part of this crisis is an offshoot of those government interventions into the market place (from both sides of the aisle). See California electricity markets and biofuels for more examples of the disastrous effects that occur when you pervert the marketplace. For a scenario to watch in the future, see health care intervention.
Its not much more complex than that. Creating perverse incentives, through programs with good intentions, tends to to do far more harm than good. The law of unintended consequences is usually unforgiving. Inflating asset bubbles by means of politicized Fed policy has sown the seed of "private investment failure." If only government intervened in the investment world no market would lose money! Precisely what we need.
Next time you opine, pretend you have a basic understanding of economics.
Posted by guest , Apr 16, 2009 1:13AM
Poor people would be better off without welfare
Posted by guest , Apr 16, 2009 8:45AM
Can I have no government please? Theres gotta be a country where this is within the realm of possibilities.
Posted by guest , Apr 16, 2009 8:45AM
Can I have no government please? Theres gotta be a country where this is within the realm of possibilities.
Posted by guest , Apr 16, 2009 8:45AM
Can I have no government please? Theres gotta be a country where this is within the realm of possibilities.
Posted by guest , Apr 16, 2009 10:09AM
@107, 108 & 109, yeah, it's called Somalia, douchebag.
Posted by guest , Apr 16, 2009 10:15AM
@107, 108 & 109, yeah, it's called Somalia, douchebag.
Posted by guest , Apr 16, 2009 10:25AM
The fact is, that Obama is ramming Socialism down our throats, while ramming new taxes up the ass of the rich. Sort of a "Socialist-Double Penetration". The mendacity of his rhetoric is the "reach-around" if you will.
His "tax cuts for 95% of working people" ploy is pure Alinsky-ite evil. It is intended to create two mutually antagonistic political classes (can;t have class-warfare without class distinctions, y'know) He wants there to be a class of dedicated tax-consumers, set up against those of us who produce wealth. The Proletarians vs. the John Galts.
If you doubt that there is a political polarization strategy, just listen to the tone of the reporting by the Government-Media Complex. It sounds exactly like Pravda under Stalin reporting on the Republican Convention.
The end game is Socialist Revolution. Don't think it's not.
Do you want to know where this is leading? Read the History of the Spanish Civil War. These Tea-Parties are reactionary, yes, but the provocation of Obama is much more insidious and much more dangerous.
Yes I am extrapolating out to extremes to make the point. But it's so great an exaggeration that it shouldn't scare the shit out of you.
Be afraid.
Posted by guest , Apr 16, 2009 7:49PM
My money's on the Texans who warned Washington they are prepared to depart the union.
For 30 years there has been a political polarization occurring in America. When enough pressure is applied, we could be faced with large scale organized civil conflict. However, this potential is maximized when the political right feels pressured because they are the ones with the nuts and know-how to knuckle up.
Posted by guest , Apr 17, 2009 1:13AM
@102 I agree with the last 6 lines of your post.
I disagree with the idea that you're entitled to a lower tax rate because cost of living in NYC is higher than in Ohio, nebraska, alaska, florida. Move there if you want the lower cost of living, otherwise, shaddap. It's the price you pay to live somewhere like NYC.