As a few of you have emailed: yes, Trader: The Documentary has been pulled from YouTube. Those who listened to us at the time and checked it out yesterday should not be too broken up about it, since you got a glimpse of a vintage PTJ, though, yes, it is upsetting to not be able to watch it every night before bed. Those who failed to do so– you fucked up, big time. It’s unlikely that this thing will make it back to the ‘Tube any time soon, as Jones bought up all remaining copies in the mid-90s in an effort to keep it under wraps, and was probably instrumental in getting it yanked today. Nevertheless: we will attempt to get our hands on it, not matter the cost. Then: DB Movie Night.
Update: The original uploader speaks:
At first I had no idea how sought after this piece of material was. I had heard anecdotally about Ebay listing in the $1,000′s but I chalked it up to urban legend. Then late Sunday night I was talking with a colleague about an obscure blogger/marketer who had for months talked about posting the Trader doc. I figured it was just a ploy to build a marketing site and thought it was kind of backwards to encourage this shadowy cottage industry/exchange of VHS tapes. Given the historical relevance, the position of both PTJ and Borish in the industry today and the fact that this aired at some point on public television – I thought posting the videos on YouTube would be educational for other traders and finance professionals. I embedded the videos on the Elite Trader message boards only after John’s seeing John’s site was having “technical difficulties” as the WordPress structure was exposed.
By Monday morning Dealbreaker, zerohedge and influential personalities on Twitter picked up the videos. My email Inbox exploded with messages and comment notifications from YouTube all day long. Some of the commentary, observations and quotes were priceless, I felt like I had given new credence to yuppie culture- often reserved for citations of “American Psycho” and Gordon Gekko. Monday was very distracting and hard to get work done, so I turned off the email notifications and put my head to work. This morning I was reading the Financial Times Alphaville section and saw my YouTube video embedded and knew things had really caught fire. I logged into YouTube to discover in less than 24 hours each video had been watched some than 30,000 times.
Clusterstock and the New York Times picked up the story and unfortunately cited the YouTube account name ‘doctationsmarketing’. The trouble was I had uploaded prior videos of CNBC segments and conference interviews for a marketing presentation for a client, an electronic medical records company. After realizing this I knew I had to take down the videos or move them. Before I could even return from lunch I got the below notices from Youtube:
My hope is that Mr. Jones understands I had no knowledge of copyright infringement and believe the video to be fair use given it had aired publicly years ago. The intention was for educational use only. The strategies, lifestyle and mannerisms of Mr. Jones and Mr. Borish portrayed in the film are not only entertaining but inspiring to both retail and institutional investors everywhere. I apologize to PTJ and Borish for any embarrassment I may have unintentionally caused.
Wow – they made the video “unavailable”??? That is power, Bess!
downloaded off Youtube yesterday, holla.
@2 you should send it to db
@2 I will end you, punk.
-ptj
Knew this would happen, I grabbed a copy last night using YouTube Downloader
That video actually portrayed him in a good light and he came off as distinctly non-douchey. The Dow 1929 comparison was a bit corny and his eyes welled up a bit after a 5mil loss but I didn’t see anything to be embarrassed about. Didn’t see him any big “secrets” in there either. Wonder why he pulled it?
Didn’t download, but will always have a copy in my spank bank.
I can just imagine the concession stand for DB movie night…
@6 I don’t get it either.
@anal_yst– such as?
6: Yea, by the standards of Wall Street he didn’t come off half bad. It even went into his commitment to charity work. Maybe he was sensitive about the drinking Bud and trading in the pre-dawn scene.
@6 Would anyone of us really want a video of us 22 years prior circulating around the internet when we are worth billions and managing billions?
I mean maybe he has a huge client who is a big Turkey Rights Activist and doesnt want to piss them off?
Hate to ask but could someone sum the video up in a sentence or two?
@13–buy low, sell high
@naked but why would he care? just because it’s a 22 yo video in which he comes off like the class act he is today? I could understand not being happy with it but going to such lengths to make sure no one sees it?
Still up:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4VuroiS5k0&feature=related
@15 The only reason I could come up with was the whole big client thats a Turkey Rights Activist…other than that I am stumped.
@15 because he is now obsessed with people perceiving him as the perfect Robin Hood
Only a bona fide attention whore or professonal actor really enjoys seeing/hearing themselves on film. He doesn’t come off bad at all, but I know I would hate to have a 20+ year old video of me goofing around at work circulating out there — he may just feel the same.
@19 how was he goofing around?
@18 but he doesn’t come off badly, and it mentions (and shows) him doing charity in the vid.
Skip my prior @16 they took it down too.
DOWN AGAIN
you guys are all idiots.
bess just can the discussion. PTJ seems like a good guy
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/13/business/13speculate.html?_r=1
The 1987 video offers an intriguing window into the everyday life of big-league traders, and it has the feel of a time capsule. Full of swagger and braggadocio, Mr. Jones can be seen skiing in Gstaad, Switzerland, or riding a horse on his estate overlooking the Chesapeake Bay — when he is not screaming out orders to his traders. He comes across as a young Gordon Gekko. Greed was not only good; it was fun.
Although the video was shown on public television in November 1987, very few copies exist. Those that do are hoarded by traders who watch the hourlong movie in the hope of gleaning possible trading tips from Mr. Jones. On the Internet, bids for the video start at $295. According to Michael Glyn, the video’s director, Mr. Jones requested in the 1990s that the documentary be removed from circulation.
“bess just can the discussion. ”
what does that even mean? take down the post? and what is wrong with us trying to speculate why he wants it down? if you actually read the comments you could see that we’re all saying he’s a good guy that didn’t come off badly at all.
This bit of very old news (repeat: OLD NEWS) may have something to do with the brouhaha:
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http://www.nytimes.com/1989/05/10/business/top-trader-in-futures-subpoenaed.html
23=PTJ
i will email a copy to anyone who wants one, for ten bucks in my paypal
if you are serious, leave your email
kenneth.griffin@citadel.com
I could use this to “glean possible trading tips from Mr. Jones.” Lord knows I need help.
Send a copy to SemGroup too.
@28 Almost fell for the bait. The troll-fu is strong with this one.
@26 it’s not old news that he pulled the video TODAY, shit for brains.
It’s not everyday you see someone’s actual email address here… I feel like nakedshort just flashed me his wee-wee.
@citadelgroup.com
and watching PTJ with that turkey was probably the best moment of my year, sadly
not bait @31, serious offer, saved it with vixy.net
ten bucks and it’s yours. pretty good stuff, better than shelling out for that klarman boook
Dickhead @32: Your grasp of the obvious is impressive, like your grasp of the mop you use to clean out booths at a peep show. What is wrong with you? The comment pertains to why the video might be pulled, Mr. Smegma. If you saw the Youtube video you saw trading instructions given to potentially distract the market in Part 4, moron. Is there another word for “distracting the market”, pus for brains?
You are forgiven. Just quit beating off so much.
If it is a PBS documentary, thus party taxpayer funded, how can it be pulled from circulation?
upset you tube is blocked at work.
@38 was that a joke? because YOU COULDN’T WATCH IT ANYWAY.
@28
Is the turkey Dennis? Dennis?! I will take one copy. Set it to half an hour ago. Don’t e-mail it. I can be reached through the TV, where I communicate with banks for 5 minutes.
TGFJM
returnofthemacke@cardomain.com
p.s., dismiss the email years ago
@39-no. despite the fact that i’m taking the time to respond to you, i’m quite busy at work, and i haven’t had a chance to watch it at home (work, bar, bed, work). thanks.
@41 – ???!!! Thanks for paying attention.
-not 39
I don’t know why people are joking. If you want a copy, post your email, ten bucks to a paypal address, it’s yours
if this video hadn’t been yanked, would anyone watch it?
@43 OK OK OK Ill buy one
nailingu69@aol.com
-Lenny Dykstra
SHIT SHIT SHIT!
I only managed to snag copies of parts one to four before Glyn pulled it from YouTube.
If anybody has copies of parts five, six and seven from YouTube, please contact me at gbooth1995@aol.com.
Shit. I was really looking forward to watching this this evening. Might be fun.
Glyn – if you’re out there – make it available as a clean, clear DVD and I’ll buy one.
I still want the Bruce Willis’ magic slippers. And a seagram’s wine cooler.
zeroh.kool at gmail
would like a copy thx
jenniferdipal[at]aol[dot]com
would like a copy…thanks
devotio[at]gmail
Thanks.
stevve rattner would have made more money distributing this than chooch.
@51 he would’ve made more money distributing anything that’s not chooch.
The video has surfaced on a prominent torrent site.
pls send copy to
rolltideroll.crimson@gmail.com
thanks
I would like a copy. Please email me at john.luenberger (at) gmail.com
Thanks!
-john
nf6187@gmail.com
I will def take one
lucille_greenwich@yahoo.com
would like a copy thanks.
http://btjunkie.org/torrent/Trader-Documentary/411449f3d65e8869911ae6f3c4cb10fcf640b99bd8ba
$10? stop that nonsense. good luck ever getting money for this again. content wants to be free