If the Credit Suisse MBS deal is an indication of things to come, the rating agencies may have gone too far to defend their motto of “it could be structured by cows and we would rate it”. While it’s reassuring to see the wheels of the securitization market turning again, the rating agencies should take particular note that the CS did not seek a rating for any of the securities. Given the proven “value” of a AAA MBS rating, Moody’s and S&P may find themselves in the perilous position of discovering that clients are now doing their own analysis and no longer see the benefit of burning money to obtain a meaningless rating. That distinction should be left to TALF participants.

Comments (22)

  1. Posted by guest | July 16, 2009 at 10:26 AM

    Alternative Headline:
    Greg May Need To Look For Some New Jobs

  2. Posted by guest | July 16, 2009 at 10:27 AM

    Investors that don’t do their homework ought to get burned.

  3. Posted by guest | July 16, 2009 at 10:33 AM

    Ponderous

  4. Posted by guest | July 16, 2009 at 10:33 AM

    gregilicious!

  5. Posted by guest | July 16, 2009 at 10:33 AM

    What’s with you and the rating agencies? 50% of your posts seems to be about this.

  6. Posted by guest | July 16, 2009 at 10:37 AM

    What if you didn’t go to work one day and while home realized that you had more food at work than in your fridge at home. Man, that’d be quite odd.

  7. Posted by guest | July 16, 2009 at 10:42 AM

    i rate you underperform

  8. Posted by guest | July 16, 2009 at 10:43 AM

    if you were a stock I’d short you

  9. Posted by guest | July 16, 2009 at 10:53 AM

    @7 – I’ve downgraded Greg to “junk” status.

  10. Posted by guest | July 16, 2009 at 10:53 AM

    “if you were a stock I’d short you”
    your cut is deep
    hahahaha
    -not greg

  11. Posted by guest | July 16, 2009 at 10:57 AM

    most regulated financial entities need public ratings from NRSROs to assign capital. Doesn’t matter whether they do their own analysis or not; they need the rating. Cows will remain employed.

  12. Posted by guest | July 16, 2009 at 10:58 AM

    If Greg were a stock, I’d split him. Wait, that sounds sexual. Perfect.
    -SAC trader

  13. Posted by guest | July 16, 2009 at 11:01 AM

    What’s with you and the sucking? 100% of your posts seem to suck.
    -Wildcard bitches!

  14. Posted by guest | July 16, 2009 at 11:02 AM

    I love Greg.
    -M.Milken

  15. Posted by guest | July 16, 2009 at 11:02 AM

    If Greg were a bond, I’d hold him to maturity and receive dividend payments.
    -Long only credit hedge fund manager.

  16. Posted by guest | July 16, 2009 at 11:04 AM

    @12
    what about naked shorting him?

  17. Posted by guest | July 16, 2009 at 11:10 AM

    @9
    Greg has no junk.

  18. Posted by guest | July 16, 2009 at 11:45 AM

    @16
    No. He has to wear a latex suit. It’s a safety precaution for when I connect the jumper cables to his nipples.
    -SAC trader

  19. Posted by guest | July 16, 2009 at 11:59 AM

    Can someone please put the “cows” remark back in context, even if it partially ruins a pretty good soundbite?
    The dude said “we’d rate it if it was structured by cows.” That is a true statement. Their job is to rate, no matter what. I could take them a shoe, and pay them to rate it. It wouldn’t rate very high (unless it was patent leather, perhaps), but it would get some sort of rating.
    So, he’s right. If a deal sounded crazy, it wasn’t his job to opine on the investment merits, but to tranche out the bonds based on their formulas.
    Arguments abound as to what they should have been doing, and whether their formulas accurately reflected reality, but the dude’s correct statement of reality has been, like many things in this crisis, blown way out of proportion.

  20. Posted by guest | July 16, 2009 at 1:32 PM

    Greg: I only read your posts because the abuse is so much better than your writing.

  21. Posted by guest | July 16, 2009 at 2:16 PM

    ratings agencies – The Biggest Fraud on Wall Street “Investors shouldn’t use our ratings as the basis for an investment decision…” Uh, OK, well then we won’t but of course you won’t be getting paid anymore, morons.

  22. Posted by guest | July 16, 2009 at 5:28 PM

    Loans bought at 60 cents on the dollar that went to a private offering didn’t get rated? Time to call my broker and short Moody’s!

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