No projected numbers yet but John Mack told employees today that re: compensation, “it’s going to be controversial. And it is what it is.” Which should bode well for the Mackettes! If it’s going to piss off the public, that’s gotta mean it’ll be good for you.
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I told my people something similar, but it was “re: comp: suck my prestige. it is what it is.”
-LB
Go Mack!!!!!!!!
-not an MS employee, but glad to see the Feds suck it~
“it’s going to be controversial. And it is what it is.”
Maybe he’s planning on paying them in cannolis.
Either he realizes the world’s going to end and he’s paying out 90% earnings as comp or he’s decided fiscal responsibility is in order and paying out 20%. I’d bet on the former.
Wait! does Obama know about this? He should be involved in this comp decision. He should be involved in ALL decisions.
I was thinking of buying new shoes but before i do it i am writing a letter to Obama asking if it would be ok with him…I am waiting to hear back.
I will probably hear back when he goes on FOX to apologize for being a pussy.
@5 – if you’re buying those shoes with fed money you better ask.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-10-22/goldman-wins-again/?cid=hp:mainpromo2
Bonusclops handing out fuckme boots
Bonusclops handing out fuckme boots
Attention all mega bonus recipients: Your table is ready. The Last Supper is ready to begin.
Do not underestimate the power of the blowback from Main Street, U.S.A. They’ve heard all the nonsense they can take.
@3 “it’s going to be controversial. And it is what it is.”
and on top of that he commented “at the end of the day” “at this moment in time” and “whatever”
Those rich fucks.
This whole fucking thing!
The media seems to be more interested in the “shoot self in foot” and “take the ball and go home” angles on the comp story.
He’s just trying to get them out before the next wave of ARM foreclosures hits and unemployment jumps a few more points.
@13
ARM foreclosures? Unless you mean Option ARMS thats kinda fail seeing as the LIBOR rates they are all resetting to are now such that most of their rates won’t change much, if at all. Try again.
Does anyone have first year numbers?
Bonuses used to be paid in kilos at my firm. I would be impressed if JMack took a page from my book.
-Jimmy Cayne
Nice to see that pay is being linked to performance.
http://abnormally-distributed.blogspot.com
In my opinion, MS simply didn’t take a haircut on that toxic waste dump they call a balance sheet!!! Mack didn’t want to go out on the low note of his own creation. Poor Gorman! He’s going to get stuck with the inevitable losses and voted “Douche Bag of the Year”. Sigh….
@14, You fail.
Do the math slick.
ARM was LIBOR + 250. Even if you are flat on LIBOR you are assfucked on the new appraised value since most metro markets are off over 20%.
Lend much?
kiloman
Yeah, let’s see what the 401K match is going to be.
@6 Tarp money or not, show me the resume of the idiot of who would work at a company for a 90% pay cut? Its one thing for the company to have accepted TARP money and yes agreed greedy CEOs should not profit. BUT we are hiring NEW people to walk into what will be a very visible and difficult situation. If you want a traffic cop handling the failing company pay him what a traffic cop would make. if you want someone to fix the problem and get the company back on track…PAY HIM.
Its the same with medical coverage. You want talent you have to pay them. I doubt A-Rod would play for the Yanks for a 90% pay cut.
No bonus for all Morgan Stanley employees would also be controversial!
@19 how does lower appraised value equate to foreclosure? let’s say for argument’s sake that the rate isn’t much higher, why does that automatically mean foreclosure?
well there were 2 levels of bonus this year. Ones on par with 2008 and ones with 2007. If you got the 2007 one, they want you to leave.
fuRRMF Thanks a lot for the blog.Thanks Again. Really Cool.