As reported yesterday, a source close to Sanjay Santhanam, Galleon’s head of risk management, told Dealbreaker that Santhanam recently expressed fears the firm “could be closed by Friday,” due to a massive amount of redemptions. A representative of the fund, however, takes issue with the potential expiration date offered by San-San, pointing out that, technically, the death would be much more slower and painful, and take us through the New Year.
An outside spokesman for Galleon pointed out to Dealbreaker that they don’t legally have to return clients money for 45 days after the next redemption date which is November 15th. “So no money is due until January from any of their funds regardless of how many redemption notices are submitted now.” (How lucky for Raj that he was cuffed on October 16th, one day after the previous redemption period.) Since the Galleon founder arrest Friday the Wall Street Journal reported at least $1.3 billion as already been redeemed. With a crew of over 100 currently employed how many do you think they’ll need to keep around to close out trading positions? We’re guessing a few. Traders who actually have their own solid relationships with Galleon investors are likely to branch out on their own like ex-partner Todd Deutsch did in June 2008. Deutsch, who use to run Galleon’s Captains fund, now runs a small fund called Bascom Hill and according to Absolute Return was up 2 percent as of August.
hey, besides it’ll take awhile for them to dole out all the yearend bonuses.
Raj = Captain Stabbin
What is this?
Raj-Raj + San-San monkey show?
Raj needs to be deported ASAP.
In times like these I like to draw on inspirational quotes from despair.com to help people through their firm’s epic implosion. This ones for you Raj:
“It could be that the purpose of your life is only to serve as a warning to others.”
Teri,
I’d like to pump you full of the liquidity I’ve drawn down from Galleon.
I hope you’re a man.
45 days from now would be early december, not january…
maybe kenny g will buy them
@5 I think this one is more up Raj’s alley: http://www.despair.com/corruption.html
That was a teri buhl curry I had last night. I needed a teri cloth to wipe the mess up.
In TGFD’s opinion, this week would be a good time fo Galleon to belly-up.
Investors earned that for which they bargained. Financial dealings with bengalis or moslems should always be avoided. One does not need to work on Wall St. to know that they’re generally thieves.
For those sorry investors, no sympathy from TGFD; only ridicule.
The Guy from Delaware
@10 What can I say but a teri buhl effort there, pal.
@11
Finally some input from the racist right. I’ve been waiting for that pearl of wisdom since my morning dump. Thanks TGFD.
teri makes Greg look investigative and funny. an impressive feat… about the only thing impressive i can think of that teri does
@14 what a bizarre comment considering TB has broken stories, reported info no one else has printed.
@14, Teri’s mom is that you? Seriously, what stories would those be?
We just placed $50 million of assets with Raj, today. We were unaware of any problems, and our due diligence and investment processes are flawless. Brilliant even.
We are victims of a hoax. We demand regulation, restitition and public humiliation of all those responsible.
-Calper’s Investment Committee Chair
Dear Calpers,
We made a 10/1 investment after thorough Due Diligence and wholeheartedly agree.
–Ivy Asset Management
P.S. Our Due Diligence has been improved since our Madoff investment and Amaranth investment. Seriously.
At Calpers, we intend to bring additional investment professionals into the security selection process, to avoid these types of situations in the future.
In order to protect our stakeholders and the taxpayers of the Great State of California, we have hired Charles Gasparino.
-Calpers Investment Committee Chair
Guest@#13…
TGFD’s racist tendencies notwithstanding, I view bengali thievery as more of a cultural thing. Swindling and stealing are bred into them.
Most westerners don’t fully appreciate the bengali brand of business ethics.
“Vee don’t legally have to return clients money for 45 days after the next redemption date” means “Vee need time to pay ourselves handsome bonuses before the money gets siezed.”
The Guy from Delaware
@20
You have an uncanny ability to have words come out of your anus.
@16 r u serious. Buhl broke all the IndyMac news and big hedge fund stories at the New York Post last year. If you really don’t read the financial news let me point out that you can simply google Buhl + Wells Fargo. You’ll see even Dick Bove changed his WFC view after her last report on their imploding Commercial Loan problems that she points out they took on from Wachovia. Clusterstock, Reuters, FT Alphaville, Forbes, LA Times, OC Register, Greenwich Time, NY Times Dealbook have all had to follow her reporting- and credit Dealbreaker for being first to the story.
One more reason to use AlphaClone instead of getting stuck in these funds.
@22, noted. I do see the past stories and not a bad body of work. I was previously only familiar with what I have seen on DB. Between this Galleon post and Level post a while back have been duly unimpressed.
If even Dick Bove can change….
Obviously Fluid, borderline f***ed.
Chazzimus Prime
@14 Investigative work from Teri Buhl- she’s not billed to be funny, she’s a news reporter. Firms like NIR Group, Sagecrest,Carrington Capital, New Stream, BBG were sued for investor fraud or are being investigated by the feds after her stories came out.
http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=%22teri+buhl%22+source:%22new%22+source:%22york%22+source:%22post%22&num=10&as_price=p0&scoring=a&hl=en&sa=N&start=0
http://www.housingwire.com/index.php?s=teri+buhl
http://bankimplode.com/blog/2009/09/29/bonita-bay-brawl-are-members-victims-of-lucas-and-keybank/
http://bankimplode.com/blog/2009/07/16/security-savings-bank-not-so-solid-ground/
What’s amusing here is that nobody understands how a hedge fund redemption works. Ergo, you are all worth less than a back office peon at a hedge fund, FOF, or administrator.
Fact : Quarterly with 45 days notice means that you need to give notice by mid-Nov. The actual redemption date is 31st Dec (i.e. the end of the quarter) so you are still in the market until then. You don’t receive the cash until late January because the fund needs to strike a NAV and it takes a few weeks to do that.
So no, Teri, investors did not ‘miss out’ on a mid October redemption period, because one doesn’t exist.
@27 – yes you’re technically right, but Galleon may be letting some investors out early as a sign of good faith (and please please don’t take everything out!) since they can waive terms at will.
And of course, those investors will all speak to each other so it’ll more likely cause a run on their funds in today’s climate — much like we saw with other hedge funds last fall/winter/spring
…and 27, don’t forget — Galleon trading like a rapid monkey in very liquid names, so they could flatten quickly….and in most cases, without adverse affects on the stocks in question.
is… is this allowed?!?!! shame on her.
“Chiesi Faced Tax Lien While Allegedly Trading Akamai (Update1)”
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&sid=a8S9v_5AK3GE
@27 admit it you are really with Galleon’s new pr firm Sard Verbinnen & Co and just didn’t like Dealbreakers spin on the news.
@27–
right on. i do not believe any galleon funds are monthly, only quarterly.
No @32 even the WSJ reported the Galleon Tech fund is set up for monthly redemptions.
@33 are you an idiot? every single article (wsj, bberg, and so on and so forth) has reported that the tech fund is monthly.
Well at least we now know that Todd Deutsch survived, is making money and is likely jumping for joy that he can ramp up his aum by lifting Galleon investors. I wonder how much AUM he raised on his own. Didn’t we see Galleon go from $7.5bn in 08 to $3.4bn last month. I’d love to know how much Tood took with him.
tech is monthly. feeds into diversified
Dear me, it’s a catch-22! On the one hand, I’m reflexively inclined to disbelieve a representative of an imploding hedge fund who claims the fund won’t implode nearly as fast as said fund’s hedge of risk management just said it would. On the hand, I’m also reflexively inclined to disbelieve anything that emanates from the mouth of the “head of risk management” of a fund that just went into implosion mode without warning.
I’m stuck — I just don’t know when Galleon will “technically” implode. Fortunately, I’m sure it doesn’t matter. The place is already so broke it can’t seem to afford a pair of old socks to stuff in the mouths of its mind-bogglingly loose-lipped staffers.
Galleon may have only $1.3bn of investor money. The $3.7bn of AUM comes from double counting feeder funds and normal funds, and also adding up any leverage, just to make Raj-Raj feel good about himself. Poor San-San knows this.
With the FT reporting Wednessday morning that Raj now admits he’s going to wind down the funds/firm- It’s pretty clear we need to give Dealbreaker and Buhl a high five for being right and printing Sanjay’s quote. Nice reporting.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/c2a6ca66-be44-11de-9195-00144feab49a.html
dealbreaker allows Teri Buhl to write for them? didnt she just get sued because of the lies and fraudulent information?
shame on you Dealbreaker, you probably wont even post this comment since you tend to discriminate which free speech you allow!
@40 no that suit by Dolan at C-vision (yea we all trust that guy) was dismissed without any liability found on Buhl’s part. Big firms often try to attack journalist who uncover the truth. If she’s printing I’m reading.
@40
What’s your point – are you defending Galleon?
I rarely hear of journalists making stuff up – if they’ve been told a rumor from a few different sources, what else are they to believe.
Granted, a lot of things get misreported when there are a lot of pieces to a puzzle, but what’s the alternative – not having a free press?
Good luck not losing a s–tload of money that way!