A Hedge Fund King Comes Under Siege (WSJ)
Ken Griffin is ready to move on from last year, and would like you to move on and invest with him. If you’re nervous about the losses, take heart: “If there were a repeat of 2008’s market turmoil, Mr. Griffin says, his funds would lose less than 20% rather than 55%. Citadel’s biggest hedge fund has rebounded 58% this year through mid-November. And recently, Mr. Griffin has resumed talking about an initial public offering for Citadel as early as next year.”
Whitney Says Goldman Has Lost ‘Talent’ (Bloomberg)
Not just a little talent but a “tremendous amount of talent,” as a result of execs leaving to start hedge funds, apparently.
New Link In Insider Trading Case (WSJ)
Gary Rosenbach, a Galleon senior partner who left the hedge fund “due to family health reasons” earlier this year.
Elizabeth Warren: Winning Means You Won’t Sell It If You Can’t Explain It (Bloomberg)
“We need a new model: If you can’t explain it, you can’t sell it,” said Warren.
Goldman Was Exposed to AIG Losses: Government Report (NYT)
Surprise! If AIG had collapsed, it would have made it difficult for Goldman to liquidate its trading positions with AIG, even at discounts, the report said. It also would have put pressure on other counterparties that “might have made it difficult for Goldman Sachs to collect on the credit protection it had purchased against an AIG default.” A Goldman spokesman called the risks discussed in the report a “moot point.”
Posted by guest , Nov 19, 2009 8:21AM
i'm sure that piece of 20/20 hindsight will be a comfort to citadel investors.
Posted by Joe Mac , Nov 19, 2009 8:21AM
Citadel's gas bill for milk-shakes is bringing them down.
Posted by guest , Nov 19, 2009 8:23AM
and here i thought all their "talent" was in washington or in their board room - who would have thought rank and file at gs was considered talent? they make galleon look like pikers
Posted by NakedShort , Nov 19, 2009 8:25AM
I think Goldman meant to say the point is "moo"
-Joey Tribbiani
Posted by guest , Nov 19, 2009 8:25AM
Jeez, if meredith keeps up the agression she'll have LB shouting his safety word in a matter of minutes.
Posted by guest , Nov 19, 2009 8:26AM
Ken plucks his eyebrows!?
Posted by guest , Nov 19, 2009 8:26AM
Could Ken Griffin possibly be any more of a
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Posted by guest , Nov 19, 2009 8:28AM
I can't take Ken seriously unless he he's wearing his bow tie.
Posted by CoveredLong , Nov 19, 2009 8:29AM
That Warren vagine sounds like a NOT sweetheart.
-Borat
Posted by guest , Nov 19, 2009 8:39AM
When I see a photo of Ken Griffin it starts the 'Thong Song' playing in my head.
Posted by Seaman Bodine II , Nov 19, 2009 8:47AM
Have Ken Griffin and Pete Thiel ever been seen in the same room together?
Posted by guest , Nov 19, 2009 8:50AM
Well at least "If you can't explain it" is much better than "If they can't understand it".
Posted by guest , Nov 19, 2009 8:57AM
It's a moot point because they are paying out record bonuses regardless of what any god, person or report says.
Posted by guest , Nov 19, 2009 9:02AM
he looks so regal in that pic
Posted by Trader in CT , Nov 19, 2009 9:09AM
When the Galleon news first broke wasn't Dealbreaker the first one to mention Gary Rosenbach-co founder- will also be named in this case or is working for the feds as a witness. My kid plays ball with his son. I I haven't heard a word about what family member is actually sick. Sounds like some BS to cover up why he really left the fund so fast.
Posted by guest , Nov 19, 2009 9:15AM
hey kenny boy, smoke my bone!!
-dennis k
Posted by Zebra Cakes , Nov 19, 2009 9:17AM
NEVER AGAIN!
Posted by guest , Nov 19, 2009 9:20AM
Let's call this new model "Inside the box. The toolbox." Thanks for the shoutout from Squaresville, Liz. How's the nineteenth century coming along?
- guest
Posted by guest , Nov 19, 2009 9:38AM
I used to have the same problem with people who didn't understand what we did and I would just dismiss them by saying, "Hey...you either get it or you don't."
~Jeff S.
License Plate Dept.
State of Minnesota
Posted by guest , Nov 19, 2009 9:39AM
We should really thank the special inspector general for figuring out something that common sense told everyone else a year ago. But then again, GS did have "collateral."
Posted by Anal_yst , Nov 19, 2009 9:53AM
anyone else getting "comment has been received and is waiting for approval by the editor" messages post comment?
Posted by guest , Nov 19, 2009 9:55AM
The mootness refers only to declining prices of trades with AIG, not to collecting on CDS; and assumes Goldman getting TLGP & TARP money, but who wants to parse all that?
Posted by NakedShort , Nov 19, 2009 10:00AM
@anal Ill get that if I am trying to put a link in the comment. It has taught me to examine my motives
Posted by guest , Nov 19, 2009 10:04AM
@23/NS you are the shit.
Posted by Anal_yst , Nov 19, 2009 10:50AM
ahh, lets try again then...
@15/trader in ct
tips "at" dealbreaker "dot" com
Posted by guest , Nov 19, 2009 12:41PM
@15.
It's been widely reported that Gary's wife is quite ill, so quick with the bs rumors. I doubt you even know him.
Posted by guest , Nov 19, 2009 12:41PM
@15.
It's been widely reported that Gary's wife is quite ill, so quit with the bs rumors. I doubt you even know him.
Posted by guest , Nov 19, 2009 2:00PM
Punch Kenny's fu*king lights out; that's what TGFD says.
Isn't there somebody close to Kenny, somebody somewhere with the courage to kick his sorry ass?
TGFD would do it, but I don't like Chicago, and besides, I couldn't get close to him anyway.
The Guy from Delaware
Posted by guest , Nov 19, 2009 3:16PM
@28/TGFD
I can. I can get pictures, too.