From an unhappy German:

Not a single investment banker I spoke with from any industry or product groups was happy with their number. A bonus of more than 140 resulted in 30-35% deferred compensation. Third year associates getting promoted were told they had to pay for their promotion and were “taxed.” The ranges for IB associates (just bonus) are as follows:

Stub: 45 (up from 18 last year)
1st year: 70-175
2nd year: 100-200
3rd year: 140-300

Earlier: Bonus Watch ’10: Zee Germans Will Be Clawing Back

Comments (28)

  1. Posted by guest | February 12, 2010 at 9:52 AM

    bummer

  2. Posted by guest | February 12, 2010 at 9:53 AM

    better than BAC

  3. Posted by guest | February 12, 2010 at 9:57 AM

    what does it mean that they had to “pay for their promotion”?

  4. Posted by guest | February 12, 2010 at 9:57 AM

    @3 you don’t want to know

  5. Posted by guest | February 12, 2010 at 9:58 AM

    3rd year IB cant live on 300K bonus? Im sure they got bumps, in fact im certain of it. They will live, have a bit of perspective people. Also if they dont like it, im sur they can get another gig. Or can they? Called weathering the storm, man up

  6. Posted by guest | February 12, 2010 at 9:58 AM

    @3 A2M

  7. Posted by guest | February 12, 2010 at 9:59 AM

    As far as I can tell from my exhaustive research, at least as far back as the Money Changers at the Temple there has never, ever, been a single investment banker who liked their number. Ever.

  8. Posted by guest | February 12, 2010 at 9:59 AM

    @3 The Ping Jiang whiteboard marker treatment. One marker for each rung on the ladder….

  9. Posted by guest | February 12, 2010 at 10:00 AM

    @5 did you see that 300 was the high end of the range?

  10. Posted by guest | February 12, 2010 at 10:02 AM

    I did @9, my point is yu cant really expect to be blown away. Expectations should be managed in this environment, its just common sense and the world we are currently living in.

  11. Posted by guest | February 12, 2010 at 10:02 AM

    And Seth is out at Pebble Beach this weekend. Suck it up peons.

  12. Posted by guest | February 12, 2010 at 10:03 AM

    Ass to ass, dust to dust.

  13. Posted by guest | February 12, 2010 at 10:03 AM

    And Seth is out at Pebble Beach this weekend. Suck it up peons.

  14. Posted by guest | February 12, 2010 at 10:04 AM

    Well, get happy Germans, ’cause it’s 2-for-1 crab legs night at Captain Orlander’s.

  15. Posted by NakedShort | February 12, 2010 at 10:09 AM

    Let me think about these numbers for a second.
    Ok, I’ve thought about it and I think my answer to these numbers would have to be “fuck you”. I don’t care if you wake up in a ditch with grown men shitting on you and jumping on top of your head. Maybe your nose will turn into a big ole dick and you can stroke that all the time. I hope your hair turns into dog shit one day. You wake up and you run your comb through it and all that it is, is little trundles of dog shit. The worst shit that you could imagine. AIDS… it’s cool. Everything comes around sweetheart.

  16. Posted by Post. Fourch. | February 12, 2010 at 10:11 AM

    And remember folks: the CEO (Herr Ackermann) vowed to spread the cost of UK/Euro ¨banker taxes¨ across all countries, so that´s another hit these guys are taking. They already received shitty boni for 2008, and were promised it would be made up for in 2009- this was told to me by a DB Assoc.
    btw: ever notice how many fat Indian Associates there are at DB?

  17. Posted by guest | February 12, 2010 at 10:15 AM

    @16, the point is they arae lucky to have a job. If they dont like it and the are a bunch of BSD’s whose SDS then they can leave and do better. Or can they? Probably not
    NS, are you off of your meds??

  18. Posted by guest | February 12, 2010 at 10:16 AM

    @naked- what’s up your ass today? douche.

  19. Posted by NakedShort | February 12, 2010 at 10:17 AM

    @17/18 relax duders. A little quote from the movie Foot Fist Way. If you like Eastbound and Down I would suggest you rent it…like asap.

  20. Posted by Post. Fourch. | February 12, 2010 at 10:29 AM

    @ 19/NS
    Sorry, they don´t have that at my college library, but I must say that you are more courteous than your counterparts and have the best blogger culture in town.
    – Rice u-grad & aspiring banker/teacher/civil servant
    P.S. Jesus, I´m not an outlier

  21. Posted by guest | February 12, 2010 at 10:33 AM

    Screw you, Anal_yst!

  22. Posted by guest | February 12, 2010 at 10:33 AM

    Deferred compensation means less spending, which means less consumption, which means less jobs.
    Great job Obama!

  23. Posted by guest | February 12, 2010 at 10:42 AM

    Obama runs DB?

  24. Posted by guest | February 12, 2010 at 10:50 AM

    I make $300k annually as a commercial lender and live in an $800k house in Connecticut with 4300 sq ft and nearly an acre.
    Stroke me slowly,
    Webster Bank Baller

  25. Posted by muchado | February 12, 2010 at 10:58 AM

    @23 He doesn’t?

  26. Posted by Pfluger the Barbarian | February 12, 2010 at 11:53 AM

    Germans tend to be unhappy most of the time. They have this weltschmertze problem. Higher bonuses would not cure their ailment.

  27. Posted by guest | February 12, 2010 at 1:12 PM

    Time to adopt the new mantra ‘they pretend to pay me, so I pretend to work’.

  28. Posted by guest | February 12, 2010 at 1:38 PM

    @27, sure, what I do now is I ask myself, “What would a poor performer do?”

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