• 16 Apr 2010 at 11:40 AM

Goldman News Tanks Markets

A Goldman source tell us: “This will shake the market to the core. Here comes the double dip,” Dow is already down over 100 points and Goldman shares are off 12 percent. “They’ve charged a know-nothing VP, but this goes all the way to the top and they know it.”

Comments (31)

  1. Posted by Anonymous | April 16, 2010 at 11:44 AM

    Sound more like Zero Hedge talk than GS.

  2. Posted by Anonymous | April 16, 2010 at 11:48 AM

    major buying opp’y today (not in GS, but in other financials.) for reals.

    - equity research analyst that has a superb track record.

  3. Posted by i speak english | April 16, 2010 at 11:49 AM

    a no nothing VP? I had no idea GS hired people who weren’t intelligent enough to write a coherent sentence. no idea at all.

  4. Posted by Anonymous | April 16, 2010 at 11:55 AM

    The “no nothing” quote is Kouwe quoting a verbal source. Not a GS written memo. The fault is Kouwe’s.

  5. Posted by ummm | April 16, 2010 at 11:56 AM

    Yeah i’m sure this VP made the decision all by himself. Its amazing how the top GS execs take full credit for the good stuff but when the turtlehead is exposed.

    They are all…wasn me, I ain’t seen nothin. Want a grant?

  6. Posted by Anonymous | April 16, 2010 at 11:57 AM

    @3 obviously, that refers to a VP of something. Duh.

  7. Posted by Anonymous | April 16, 2010 at 11:58 AM

    I may buy this dip in Goldman stock

  8. Posted by Bear Stearns Investor | April 16, 2010 at 12:00 PM

    Jim Cramer says there is nowhere for this stock to go but up.

  9. Posted by Khuzami Has Balls of Steel | April 16, 2010 at 12:00 PM

    Damn, couldn’t see Stevie Cutler doing something like this could you?

    Was the Goldie Lox VP quoted above Blankfein’s wife’s pool boy?

  10. Posted by volatilitysmile | April 16, 2010 at 12:00 PM

    @ 7 – for the love of god… too soon?

  11. Posted by FabulousFab | April 16, 2010 at 12:01 PM

    I’m fucked.

    Off to the bank before the freeze my accounts.

  12. Posted by Anonymous | April 16, 2010 at 12:01 PM

    Read the piece on Magnetar at Pro Publica, they did this 28 times. Every major bank, including JPM was involved. If the SEC doesn’t just stop at GS, everyone’s in big trouble.

    http://www.propublica.org/feature/all-the-magnetar-trade-how-one-hedge-fund-helped-keep-the-housing-bubble

  13. Posted by guest | April 16, 2010 at 12:06 PM

    @10/VS but look at the April 180 calls.

  14. Posted by cayne's roach clip | April 16, 2010 at 12:07 PM

    Zach Kouwe’s officially title at DB is “No nothing VP-Plagiarism”

  15. Posted by trojan | April 16, 2010 at 12:13 PM

    Van Praag… you magnificent bstard, *I read your book*!

  16. Posted by Anonymous | April 16, 2010 at 12:17 PM

    @121 – don’t bring up the Magnetar thing again. It’s a poorly-written piece done by someone who doesn’t understand what the hell they’re talking about.

    Arbitraging the mispricing between CDS and in CDO equity isn’t illegal. It’s not immoral. It’s what hedge funds do – they look for imbalances and capitalize on them. You buy equity at 50% that yields 30%, but you can buy protection on 100% of the notional for premium payments that are more than covered by the cash flow from the equity. Status quo, you’re making 30%, thing blows up, you get a double. Just because the seller of protection misprices it doesn’t make it wrong to buy it.

    Now, in the GS Complaint, we’ll have to wait and see what the facts are on “Misleading” investors about Paulson’s role, and whether that was really material. The SEC complaint doesn’t sound pretty, but it contains allegations and not facts. Additionally, I can’t find where the SEC claims Paulson didn’t buy the equity, a la Magnetar, if he did that would make a huge difference.

  17. Posted by volatilitysmile | April 16, 2010 at 12:17 PM

    @13 – I know, am long already.

  18. Posted by kungfugrip | April 16, 2010 at 12:17 PM

    @12 agreed – just change the name – the practice is endemic to every bank on the street/in the City

  19. Posted by Anonymous | April 16, 2010 at 12:18 PM

    anyone short GS?

  20. Posted by Anonymous | April 16, 2010 at 12:19 PM

    @STFU Who died and left you the judge, asshole?

  21. Posted by volatilitysmile | April 16, 2010 at 12:21 PM

    @19 +long vol?

  22. Posted by anon | April 16, 2010 at 12:21 PM

    Fucker edited his post to show “know.”

    We are on to you fuck stick.

  23. Posted by Pfluger the Barbarian | April 16, 2010 at 12:22 PM

    I’d like to reassure investors holding our CDO^5s of 2099 that their investments are entirely secure, despite today’s price “correction.” We advise our holders to stay the course, and ignore short-term market fluctuations.

  24. Posted by Anonymous | April 16, 2010 at 12:25 PM

    Easy 16, I’m not saying I have any problem with what Paulson or Magnetar did, I’m saying if the SEC is going to hold the underwriters accountable, Magnetar bought the equity of 28 deals that it went on to short. Those deals were underwritten by every major bank on the Street. I actually agree with GS position that the law is on their side, but if I was DB, JPM, MS etc… I’d be nervous.

  25. Posted by Anonymous | April 16, 2010 at 12:43 PM

    Goldman will fight to the bitter end on the legal front. This will take years

  26. Posted by Ol' Blood & Guts | April 16, 2010 at 12:49 PM

    @15 great reference

  27. Posted by PermaGuest | April 16, 2010 at 12:50 PM

    @15 excellent Patton reference

  28. Posted by anon | April 16, 2010 at 1:05 PM

    source = LB?

  29. Posted by willis | April 16, 2010 at 1:19 PM

    Alex Vayner will be exposed for the fraud he is

  30. Posted by Lloyd | April 16, 2010 at 1:38 PM

    Nothing to see here folks, a little misunderstanding. We shorted the stock ourselves and made a fortune

  31. Posted by TC | April 16, 2010 at 1:43 PM

    No — it won’t mean anything.

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