A couple weeks ago we mentioned the fact that Jamie Dimon would be Syracuse University’s commencement speaker this May. This was prior to the Orangemen being knocked out of the tournament and at the time we warned that as James Dimon only addressed champions, they’d best not fuck things up. As you know, that’s exactly what they did. And yet, being the big-hearted, strapping CEO he is, Dimon did not back out of the gig, figuring he’d fill his quota for charity cases for the year. This afternoon we received some interesting info. Namely that the “Cuse” is “concerned” about hosting Jamie. That’s right. THEY are worried about having HIM. Which, I don’t have to tell you, is pretty fucking galling. The only person who should be reevaluating this situation is JD. Why don’t you kids win something and then you can start “expressing your concerns.”
Subject: Message From Chancellor Nancy Cantor
April 9, 2010
Dear Students, Faculty and Staff,
As we approach commencement, there have been concerns expressed over the choice of Jamie Dimon, Chairman and CEO of JPMorgan Chase, as this year’s commencement speaker. In my experience, virtually every commencement speaker arouses a broad array of reactions, in line with the diversity of interests, opinions, and passions on a university campus, though I understand that in this economic climate the concerns may be especially acute.
In fact, it is rare that a university is able to bring a speaker with a birds-eye view of, and extensive on-the-ground experience with, a major global challenge, and that was in the forefront of my mind as I made my selection this year. Every year, a committee of Student Marshals and Student Trustee Representatives provides me with a long list of potential speakers, recognizing that securing a commencement speaker is not an easy task, and they typically also give me a more selective top list. I am very pleased that this year’s speaker once again comes from that shorter top list.
Indeed, this year’s commencement speaker brings a unique perspective from the field of business — a discipline that has not been represented by a University commencement speaker in at least 20 years. Whether one agrees or disagrees with the selection, there is no question that Mr. Dimon is playing a key role, front and center in addressing one of, if not the major global challenge(s) of our day. Unquestionably, this is a special choice for those graduates with interests in business and finance, though interestingly the reach of a global financial services company extends across many different disciplines at Syracuse – including technologists, marketers, psychologists, designers – to name only a few who may find their way into the business and finance sector. Even more relevant, in my view, Mr. Dimon can speak with widely recognized authority to issues that inevitably will shape the landscape of opportunity and prosperity for all of our graduates, no matter their field or geographical location or perspective on the world.
Jamie Dimon is lauded not only for his vast experience and accomplished leadership in a wide-ranging career in banking, and his active engagement of broad economic issues nationally and around the world, but also for his commitment to education and innovation. At Syracuse, we have seen the leadership he shows, as he endorsed the far-reaching collaboration in Global Enterprise Technology between SU and the technology leaders at JPMorgan Chase, which has been brought to life with our faculty and students in a new curriculum, research program, and technology center at Syracuse. Beyond our campus, millions of people all around the world recognize that Jamie Dimon is a leader whose voice is timely and seasoned, no matter whether one agrees or disagrees, reveres or rejects, his specific economic policies, corporate actions, or leadership approach. He, too, is a star with a broad reach.
Once again, I respect and value the array of reactions to this choice of speaker, even as I hope that we can come together and benefit from hearing from a world-renowned business leader located in the center of one of the world’s most influential companies, in an industry that simply has to be part of the solution, though not the only part, to a path toward economic stability for our nation and for all nations and peoples world-wide.
Cordially,
Nancy Cantor
UPDATE: This is what preceded the email:
About 30 students gathered in Schine Student Center’s Panasci Lounge on Wednesday to form a plan of action to remove JPMorgan Chase & Co. Chief Executive Officer Jamie Dimon as the 2010 commencement speaker. “When we feel wronged, we have the idea that we can raise up,” said Ashley Owens, one of the meeting’s leaders and a senior magazine journalism and geography major, before the meeting. “We need to be shown that there’s a vehicle with which to do so.”
Suggestions for how to change the commencement speaker included staging a protest, contacting media outlets such as The New York Times for national publicity, writing a letter to Dimon asking him to step down, and contacting faculty and staff members who are also angry with the commencement speaker choice. The students broke into groups to work on each plan. Adrienne Garcia spoke for the group focused on campus mobilization, including the Take Back Commencement rally. In addition to the rally, the group discussed acting in unison at least once a week until commencement. Other ideas included holding hands around the administration building when the chancellor and others are leaving work.
The group also suggested holding a vigil for all students struggling to pay for college. After the vigil, the group wants students to walk toward the administration building and snap wooden pencils on the ground. “We want to have a vigil for everyone who had to drop out and everyone across America who is suffering from what JPMorgan represents,” Garcia said. The group focused on finding a new speaker is considering finding someone who has been affected or wronged by JPMorgan
While the group may go around the administration and directly to Dimon, it plans to make the students’ discontent so well known that the administration cannot ignore it, she said. “The idea is to cause so much of a ruckus that they’re embarrassed to have him speak here,” she said.
Bess, you absolutely found your calling when you joined DealBreaker. Your prose is second to none. God only knows what stunning things you’ll do when you grow up!!!! Fantastical!
Jesus H. Christ….if you go to a school named after citrus fruit, you don’t get to be picky about who delivers your commencement address.
I just grew up. in my pants.
looks like jp didn’t fill their syracuse hiring quota
@2 our thoughts exactly.
-asu student body
Manley Fieldhouse is officially closed.
From :Office of the Dean, Gary Busey University
Subject : Commencement Speaker
Over the course of the past five years, Gary Busey University has had commencement speakers representing almost every major academic strength of our institution and each one has gone beyond, engaging their personal experience and endeavors to place the challenges and opportunities facing the portraits of our graduates in a broad landscape. We have welcomed a major political figure in Joe The Plumber; a prominent journalist and “hot” war correspondent in a “Lara Logan” female impersonator; a noted journalist, dickweed outer and k-9 educator in Dennis Kneale, a CNBC talking head; a Russian singer and composer in “The Trololo Guy”; and a world-renowned anthropologist and environmentalist in Jane Goodall who should have gotten out of Jane Goodall before his live cam chat commencement talk to you, but I digress.. Their wisdom and the power of their voice derived in part from exceptional excellence at their chosen profession and in part from their willingness and ability to contextualize their experience in the pressing issues of our time, whether economic crisis, global conflict, urban education, or climate change in such a manner as to leave commencement audiences muttering , “What the fuck?”. They were all stars with an inclusive reach into both the fears and the hopes of our next generation and sometimes they returned the wallets they found as well. Who could ever forget Jeff Macke’s speech on “Catbox! Nod if You Are A Car Person.”? Remember Lenny Dykstra’s “Dropping a Deuce on the Floor of the Foreclosure Industry”? Remember “Dickweed: The Musical”? I know that you will all be enthralled by the wisdom that comes from Billy Mays Hall this Saturday as this year’s commencement talk with be in the form of a Hitler Parody on Youtube starring the Kincaid School PTA and the Fashion Meets Finance RSVP Committee titled “Hitler Finds Out His Bonus Has Been Clawed-Back” starring Robert Benmosche as “Steiner” in Croatia. Please plan to arrive early as parking and seating will be limited to airplanes without a pilot for those who don’t lose money but, rather, print it. And UBS sucks.
The Dean
Gary Busey University
JD isn’t orange enough for Syracuse. Mozillo is good enough for them.
Is Syracuse even accredited?
@7 – 4:58 on Friday? Good job with that.
“The group also suggested holding a vigil for all students struggling to pay for college.”
HAHAHAHAHA – this has nothing to do with Wall Street you dumbshits! This has to do with the greedy trustees that run your fucking endowment. Want to afford college? Go to state school.
You gotta be f*cking kidding me. Everyone at that “rally” should be kicked out of school for being completely f*cking retarded. Maybe the mentioned Geography student should have taken Finance101 before opening her pie hole, just a thought.
You know how a few can ruin it for the whole? black-balled b*tches
Dear Syracuse Graduate,
Remember when your dream was to take your liberal arts degree and work as a bank teller at a Rochester Chase?
As we say in Queens, fugitaboutit.
Love,
Jamie “Popodopolous” Dimon
safety school.
Beyond ridiculous. Gotta love those Hufftards protesting someone they know nothing about. In all seriousness, Dimon is basically the model WS CEO, what with his whole “fortress balance sheet” strategy.
Wow. It’s like that stupid retard at the bar that has to prove he’s tough shit because he realizes he’s too stupid to have an intelligent conversation with anyone else. Give me a break.
Also, while I’m sure there are intelligent, hard-working students at Syracuse (although I lack proof), these shitheads are giving their school a bad name and fucking it up by going through this shit. We had the same issue with a Mr. Vayner a few years ago and only now have the alumni recovered.
i feel sorry for all the kids trying to get jobs on the street after this bullshit.
I’m from the Salt City. Although there would be no Dinosaur Barbeque if there wasn’t The ‘Cuse, the people of The ‘Cuse would never uninvite such a prestigious guest. Mr. Dimon should take heed.
How is Geography a valid major? What exactly is taught in upper-level Geography classes?
Students of Syracuse, please put down your might pencils. We need Jamie Dimon to come to Syracuse to hit him up for a loan for our beloved DestiNY USA since the evil Vikram is taking it to the State Supreme court.
Yours,
A Faithful Mallwalker
@16 “…Dimon is basically the model WS CEO,…” Hoo-boy, a “model”… Martha! Time to sell everything. We’re due for another bubble. I’m smellin’ another Citi. We’uns got us a “model” CEO who’s gonna fortress balance sheet himself into the home loan market again.
@23: time to visit the methodone clinic.
Let’s look at both sides before we start bashing a university we know nothing about:
Syracuse University and JPMorgan Chase have been collaborating over the past couple of years to open the JPMorgan Chase Technology Center at SU. This was not a rinky-dink endeavor; we’re talking exchanges in the tens of millions of dollars.
The reason many SU students are upset is that they see the choice stemming from this ordeal, which only furthers what some have called the “corporatization” of the university. The other reason is that students don’t want to be taking advice from a major player in the financial sector when the economy is in its death spiral.
I agree that Dimon should deliver commencement addresses, but all the circumstances surrounding his doing so at SU–along with the state of the economy–makes the situation very complex.
So to write it off as “Oh these are a bunch of snot-nosed kids who don’t know what’s good for them,” is wrong. The fact that students are expressing concern speaks to how much they care about the event and how the university is seen across the country. And whoever called SU a safety school is off-his/her-rocker; it’s consistently in the top 50 schools in the country and is home to–one of the top 5 journalism schools in the country, one of the top architecture schools in the country, one of the top public affairs schools in the country, and one of the top management schools in the country.
The university is meant to be a space to discuss issues–especially ones like these, just as Ms. Bess Levin uses the Internet to write her tawdry little column. It’s unfortunate she doesn’t see the other side.
Also–this is not news; it’s opinion in the vague shape of news. I’m sure Ms. Levin takes a sort or sadistic pleasure out of stirring up controversy like this. A Web site like DEALBREAKER is part of the reason why people don’t trust news outlets anymore. What a disgrace this is for an employed writer to spend her time hating on those younger than her.
ALSO: The fact that Ms. Levin does not even take the time out to research the official name of the school is telling of her penchant for the Truth.
It’s the Syracuse Orange, not Orangemen. You’d know this if you weren’t spending so much time trying to sound hip and ironic with your expletives and all-cap words.
Well this is a concept, so no one should expect all the details to be there. And only 1st year work?
Awesome.
dillan daniels,
In which universe does SU count as any sort of school, safety or otherwise? This is a website for finance (finn-ANTS, natch), not 3rd grade art education.
-Michigan (an actual safety school with losing athletic programs)
Jamie Dimon is a high-class guy. He is not going waste his time talking to low-life Syracuse Students. He only talks to students who are attending Harvard Business School, Stanford, Yale, MIT, Wharton, …., and Chicago.
you can’t spell Sucks without S.U.
@15 Yale is a safety school
tonguesincheek,
I’m not sure where you were trying to go with your comment. If you ask most people who study or pay attention to what’s happening in higher education, they’ll tell you SU is one of the top schools in the country in multiple areas. And you’re right, this is a Web site for finance, but it’s also a Web site that shares opinions and allows readers to comment on those opinions. Just because my thoughts don’t concern the financial aspects of the article doesn’t mean I can’t say something about it, especially when it comes to a piece as ludicrous and unsubstantiated as this one.
The sad part is that DEALBREAKER is passing this off as news. If they aren’t they should take off the News tag. This is new-wave blogging that’s trying to get a laugh.
“Jamie Dimon is a high-class guy. He is not going waste his time talking to low-life Syracuse Students. He only talks to students who are attending Harvard Business School, Stanford, Yale, MIT, Wharton, …., and Chicago.”
–Somehow I doubt that since he will be talking to SU students.
“you can’t spell Sucks without S.U.”
–You can’t spell a lot of things without SU: super, sudoku, soup…
Thanks…”business…a discipline that has not been represented by a University commencement speaker in at least 20 years. ”
Syracuse MBA
The Dillan Daniels posts is really mines -you can tells beacuse i have awesome reeding and grammer skills.
“The sad part is that DEALBREAKER is passing this off as news. If they aren’t they should take off the News tag. This is new-wave blogging that’s trying to get a laugh.”
About Dealbreaker
DealBreaker is an online business tabloid and Wall Street gossip site that covers the personalities and culture that shape the financial industry, offering original commentary, news and entertainment.
SPODE
Looks like SU is trying to knock off BU as the top place where wealthy parents send their dumb kids. Magazine Journalism major (is that like writing features for Cosmo on vibrator etiquette when you share an appartment or dorm bedroom with a girl even uglier than you are?) pontificating from the depths of her ignorance at a rally to take back commencement. Clearly, she has never been at a commencement ceremony. Nobody remembers what is said because the graduates either miss it, are too drunk to remember what is said or the speaker is so fucking boring that his or her thoughts are immediately forgotten. When the protestors want to find someone to speak who has been wronged by JPMorgan, what do they have in mind? I was thinking the head of FIG I-banking at one of the US dealers who feels like they were screwed on economics in the recent Trust Preferred deal that JPM did – that should be inspirational. Until their Lacrosse program starts winning championships again, the students should STFU because they have absolutely nothing unique to offer the world.
– Fixed Income
About Dealbreaker
“DealBreaker is an online business tabloid and Wall Street gossip site that covers the personalities and culture that shape the financial industry, offering original commentary, news and entertainment.”
Does this mean they can print anything they want without substantiation? The writer of this article doesn’t even know what the real name of the school is. I just don’t want people going here, reading this stuff, and thinking that this is a good source for information. Ms. Levin hasn’t done any real work putting this thing together. She doesn’t know why students are rebelling over this and still finds it necessary to say things about the situation. If you don’t know all the circumstances surrounding this event, your opinion is a waste of time.
Fixed Income you ignorant slut.
Let’s not base the caliber of student intelligence on the caliber of the lacrosse team. Maybe you think this–Fixed Income–because you didn’t remember your commencement speaker or were too drunk to remember your commencement speaker or yours was so boring that you didn’t remember it. Why do think everybody drinks like you do? SU students are voicing their opinions about because they want to remembers theirs. Why does no one see the other side of this?
Hear you go Dills, maybe these guys can help you fight the great plague of fiction Bess has unleashed. You might want to quiet while your ahead before you annoy guest and he hands you you’re ass 6 ways from sunday.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIfuaUTH9Y4
“Hear you go Dills, maybe these guys can help you fight the great plague of fiction Bess has unleashed. You might want to quiet while your ahead before you annoy guest and he hands you you’re ass 6 ways from sunday.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIfuaUTH9Y4”
This makes no sense.
I would like to see how said guest would “hand me my ass 6 ways from Sunday.”
Withdrawing all future funding for the JPMorgan Chase Technology Center would be a good start on handing you your ass 6 ways from Sunday, by guest i.e. the commencement speaker. But then I am not an SU post graduate so I probably don’t understand.
It’s just like how one or two lunatic students got Brown University President Ruth Simmons to resign from the Board of Goldman Sachs… the overall student body was fine with it and even supported the position. It’s always the vocal lunatic leftists that ruin society for the rest of us.
“Withdrawing all future funding for the JPMorgan Chase Technology Center would be a good start on handing you your ass 6 ways from Sunday, by guest i.e. the commencement speaker. But then I am not an SU post graduate so I probably don’t understand.”
Oh by that guest. I thought you meant by a guest on here. That would be serious, but it wouldn’t affect me…
F U SU
-JD
When I graduated in ’02 we had Giuliani speak. My view was blocked by 4 guys striking the black-panther pose b/c Rudy apparently was in the KKK or something along those lines.
One of these students was in my major (bioengineering – I’ll be first to admin the finance kids couldn’t add 2+2 even WITH their HP-12C’s). I asked for my $140k in tuition back for being associated with these morons.
This, however, is the first time I’d support the undergrads there.
waaaaah. I’m a snotty nosed brat! YOU WILL LISTEN TO ME!!!!!
It’s ironic: college students are usually condemned for their apathy. But when a group of them rally around a justifiable cause (namely, the corporatization of their college education), they become the victims of spiteful blogosphere trolls twice their age. Let’s not even get started on the author of this alleged news flash, whose gimmicky style might have benefited from a few years at SU’s Newhouse School.
If you’re going to try to skewer someone with your cheap expletives and so-called wit, at least pick on someone your own size. And while you’re at it, consider Googling the following: ad hominem, journalistic code of ethics.
Love, a magazine journalism major
Interesting how the author of this post conveniently left out the part of the article that mentions there is a petition against Jamie Dimon as commencement speaker with more than 800 names. Considering the fact that the senior class is barely more than 3,000 students, that is NOT chump change.
“Posted by Anonymous | April 11, 2010 at 7:15 PM
It’s ironic: college students are usually condemned for their apathy. But when a group of them rally around a justifiable cause (namely, the corporatization of their college education), they become the victims of spiteful blogosphere trolls twice their age. Let’s not even get started on the author of this alleged news flash, whose gimmicky style might have benefited from a few years at SU’s Newhouse School.
If you’re going to try to skewer someone with your cheap expletives and so-called wit, at least pick on someone your own size. And while you’re at it, consider Googling the following: ad hominem, journalistic code of ethics.
Love, a magazine journalism major
Posted by Interesting | April 11, 2010 at 10:24 PM
Interesting how the author of this post conveniently left out the part of the article that mentions there is a petition against Jamie Dimon as commencement speaker with more than 800 names. Considering the fact that the senior class is barely more than 3,000 students, that is NOT chump change.”
Thank you.
Dillan – I was worried that you were serious until you pulled out that tired Saturday Night Live line. Sadly, I was sober for all of the commencement speeches I had to sit through. That would include high school, college and law school so better luck projecting next time. No one is saying the students shouldn’t have a right to voice their opinions. However, if you are going to say something stupid, there is always the risk that someone calls you on it. You are entirely too worked up about a posting on a finance website famous for satire. Finally, I didn’t equate the intelligence of the student body with the success of the Lacrosse program. I was only highlighting the lack of success of the program. I could have easily been talking about the failures of the Football or the Basketball programs as well.
- Fixed Income
I’m pretty sure Cuse has won five of the past ten national championships – including the past two in a row. Fail. Better luck next time.
“Dillan – I was worried that you were serious until you pulled out that tired Saturday Night Live line. Sadly, I was sober for all of the commencement speeches I had to sit through. That would include high school, college and law school so better luck projecting next time. No one is saying the students shouldn’t have a right to voice their opinions. However, if you are going to say something stupid, there is always the risk that someone calls you on it. You are entirely too worked up about a posting on a finance website famous for satire. Finally, I didn’t equate the intelligence of the student body with the success of the Lacrosse program. I was only highlighting the lack of success of the program. I could have easily been talking about the failures of the Football or the Basketball programs as well.
- Fixed Income”
I’d like first for you tell me what part of my argument was/is stupid. I can’t argue for the football team, but the basketball team was ranked in the Top 25 for the entire season and was a number 1 seed in the NCAA Tournament. If that is your idea of failure I would like to meet you.
@52 pretty sure that you’re a dumb ass for not getting that this post was not to be taken seriously. never read DB or are you just that stupid?
@52 uh…that was definitely the joke, as it’s well known ‘Cuse has won many bball games. comment fail.
Actually he was making fun of lacrosse, saying the lacrosse team sucks when in fact it’s the top in the country.
SU kids,
You dare to attack our sacred idol, JD and you dare to attack our sacred idol, BL. Go back to your middle American enclaves and let us corporate thinkers do the blogging here.
My God, it’s worse than an invasion of Yahoo Financiers on the site.
Regards,
A Dealbreaker Devotee Who Endured the WordPress IT Upgrade
Our commencement speaker was the author of “All I Really Needed to Know I Learned in Kindergarden”.
Good thing to know after I dropped $100K+ on my degree.
-Alumni, Class of ’98
I am speaking in Syracuse?!?!? I have to go give a fucking speech in the land of the perpetual cloud, the permanent snowplow, and the most polluted lake in America?!?!? Jesus – I probably have foreclosures in progress on half the houses I am going to drive by on my way there (Note to self – get helicopter for commencement speech).
This SUcks… I need to get that PR guy from Goldman – Lloyd never has to do gigs in toilets like this…
And who is this fucker Dillan Dillans who think the Syracuse is a good school? There are like 50,000 students on campus, most of whom have never been on a yacht… how can that be a good school?? I can’t stand these retards… who went to Syracuse that ever did anything? Bob Costas?!?!?!? Shoot me now.
-JD
Posted by Marvin Harrison’s German Firearm | April 12, 2010 at 9:08 AM
Our commencement speaker was the author of “All I Really Needed to Know I Learned in Kindergarden”.
Good thing to know after I dropped $100K+ on my degree.
-Alumni, Class of ‘98
Mr. Class of ’98 Alumni, you should proud to know that Robert Fulgham also wrote a book called “It was on Fire When I Lay Down It”. This caliber of speaker exemplifies the excellence that our instituion strives for.
Syracuse is a fairly respectable institution but the undergrad population is by and large expendable. The ’04 commencement speaker was Claire motherfucking Huxtable.
Fuck SU.
SU grad
1. Dillan Daniels got himself blackballed for life. Hope he’s trust-fund-worthy.
2. I thought JD only speaks in front of Yael?
3. Hard to say “I’m sorry” but there is a guy who needs to fall on his knees and apologize to me on the libart issue. Reject by default since I visited said school and saw the leftie (ok, communist) pamphlets posted on the wall and on the door of a prof.’s office. If they had a saying, Che would be cloned, and Hugo and BHO would share the Nobel Prize. Oh, wait…
Let the slaying begin:
“SU kids,
You dare to attack our sacred idol, JD and you dare to attack our sacred idol, BL. Go back to your middle American enclaves and let us corporate thinkers do the blogging here.
My God, it’s worse than an invasion of Yahoo Financiers on the site.
Regards,
A Dealbreaker Devotee Who Endured the WordPress IT Upgrade”
–I don’t mind JD as a sacred idol, but BL? She didn’t even get the name of the school she’s attacking right. You “corporate thinkers” are the ones who got us into this financial mess. Quit putting a dollar sign on everything.
“Syracuse is a fairly respectable institution but the undergrad population is by and large expendable. The ‘04 commencement speaker was Claire motherfucking Huxtable.
Fuck SU.
SU grad”
–The undergraduate population at most every university on the planet “is by and large expendable.”
“1. Dillan Daniels got himself blackballed for life. Hope he’s trust-fund-worthy.
2. I thought JD only speaks in front of Yael?
3. Hard to say “I’m sorry” but there is a guy who needs to fall on his knees and apologize to me on the libart issue. Reject by default since I visited said school and saw the leftie (ok, communist) pamphlets posted on the wall and on the door of a prof.’s office. If they had a saying, Che would be cloned, and Hugo and BHO would share the Nobel Prize. Oh, wait…”
–Surely a sacred idol such as JD would not blackball someone for voicing his opinions.
Pretty sure Dillan Daniels is black.
Just sayin’
Caucasian sir.
@65 – Sir, with all due respect, you do not understand fin-ahn-ce. JD is the ONLY guy who did not blackball you at this point, partially because you are not on his bucket list (which has one entry only: die, Citi, die!!!).
Ignoring Claire Huxtable does not refute her existence
@66 — I will admit that I’m not versed at all in the area of finance. This does not mean I can’t have an opinion of the story. Ms. Levin does not seem to be versed in research and still managed to scrap together this bastard of a post.
Dillan Daniels = Zach K.
@69 – Who is this Zach K. you’re referring to?
keep running your mouths about basketball when at the end of the day the sport that you care about and many of you played is lacrosse. cuse would trash all of your alma maters in lax
11 national championships????
this year will be a three peat
There isn’t any substance in this article. What does basketball have to do with the fact that the University selected someone against the will of the students. GREAT writing! Really HARD HITTING stuff.
@72 holy shit it’s a joke. don’t comment here until you’ve read more than one post ever. jesus.
All of those Ivy Leaguer’s did such a great job the last 3 years …
bravo , greatest financial meltdown in history
Syracuse ???
Boeheim can’t coach … bu the biz school surely couldn’t have done any worse than all of those Harvard geniuses
@68 – she must be very good in bed to be so successful at her tender age, then. Research belongs on PBS – we want the essence of the story here, in 300 words or less (sometimes I only read the tags) – even if it is one-sided. We know how to analyze info at this point.
As if, say the NYT, has no (liberal) bias, and every word that adorns their pages has been well researched. STFUAAGAL.
@76 — I’m going to venture a guess and say you either are Ms. Levin herself, someone who works with her, or someone who knows her directly in another way since you know she is at a “tender age.” (Granted — you could have Googled her).
And no, you don’t want the essence of the story; the essence of a story shows two sides. You want the essence of a witty opinion on the story.
Every media outlet has a bias no matter how much they try to say they don’t. It’s impossible for humans to be 100% objective.
The essence of the story would have showed both Ms. Levin’s outlook on it and the reasons why students may be rebelling against this.
@DD stop embarrassing yourself. anyone who regularly reads DB knows Bess’s bio, and age. give it up.
@78 — Only because you asked me to. This post is a pile of shit.
Hey Dilldo,
Care to remind us the etymology of your beloved mascot?
- PC Police
Dillan,
It’s Mrs. Levin you fuckstick, check YOUR facts.
- Lloyd Blankfein-Levin
@80 — This is from Wikipedia, but it’s sourced:
Before Otto
The Syracuse Mascot was originally a Native American character named Saltine Warrior (Syracuse is sometimes known as the Salt City).[1] The character was born out of a hoax in which it was claimed that a 16th century Onondogan Indian chief was unearthed while digging the foundation for the women’s gymnasium in 1928. In 1978, Native American students successfully petitioned the University to discontinue Saltine Bill, citing the mascot’s stereotypical portrayal of Native Americans. During the 1978 season, the University introduced a Roman Gladiator, but the idea proved largely unpopular among fans.[1]
[edit] Otto becomes the official mascot
For 17 years the university was unable to settle on a mascot until the chancellor appointed a group of students and faculty to create a mascot and logo. The cheerleaders and mascots were at a UCA Cheerleading Camp in Tennessee that summer, and narrowed the field down to two potential names – “Opie” and “Otto”. It was concluded that the name “Opie” would lead to the inevitable rhyme with ‘dopey’, and settled on “Otto”. Later that fall, word got out that the cheerleaders were calling the latest mascot costume Otto, and the name stuck.[1][2]
University administration considered introducing a new mascot (a wolf or lion were likely candidates), but the student body supported Otto. He was recognized as the official mascot of Syracuse University in 1995.[3]
@81 — Calling someone Ms. is a sign of respect, especially when you don’t know if they’re married. This information is not readily available to me.
I applaud the Syracuse students who oppose Jamie Dimon speaking at their commencement. The executives of the banks, government rating agencys, and the politicians responsible for oversight caused this “Great Recession” which is not yet over. In Novmeber the politicians will be excused from their neglected duties. After the Great Depression it was more than 2 decades before consumers trusted banks again, it affected 2 generations. Today with life spans longer and information about those responsible more available, the banking industry will suffer the consequences they deserve long after Mr. Dimon has gone to……
Will you guys stop picking on this kid from some pathetic second tier school? Let him have his hardhitting ‘journalism’ and ideals. You know in the end he’s headed towards a life of being bought and sold by people who don’t measure their alma mater’s worth in the number of lacrosse games they’ve won. Honestly – I mean we’re talking about a guy who can say with pride that Syracuse is in the top *100* universities in the US. He can’t say it’s in the top 50 even. And he pays for the insult.
So support Dillon’s fight to render his school even more irrelevant by chasing away the only person of worth who has thought about brightening that festering shithole for an afternoon with his presence. One day when he’s 40, a middle manager at a local news station, overweight and under threat of losing his job, he’ll realize what a needling little twit he was. But give him the modicum of satisfaction he can have now while he’s too stupid to realize in what dire straights he’s facing.
P.S. – To anyone at Syracuse who might accidentally have half a brain: if you value your future, you will become the most outspoken champion of Jamie Dimon’s known to man, and then apply for a job you otherwise wouldn’t deserve at J.P. Morgan’s commercial banking unit or something. Don’t get cocky and apply for IB. But you might curry enough favor to lift you out of that used tampon of a school you’ve wasted four years at.
@84 — SU is obviously not on the same level as colleges like Princeton, Harvard, Yale, etc., but let’s at least give it the credit it deserves, especially in terms of the its specialty schools (Newhouse for journalism, Whitman for management, Maxwell for public affairs, the school of architecture).
You wouldn’t at list be a little bit happy if you went to one of the top 100 schools in the US? You’re right — I couldn’t say it’s in the top 50 because it’s not — but it usually hovers somewhere around 55, so forgive SU for not climbing those 5 spots.
I don’t think Dimon is the only person of worth to have come through this school — just look at the alumni (yes — there are other schools with better alumni, we get it). I’m not really even mad that Dimon was chosen; my point is that it’s fishy that JPMC and SU have been exchanging money for some time and now Dimon is the commencement speaker. I don’t mind personally, but you have to see the students’ side of this — they’re upset for good reason.
The complaint concerns the article because it’s just writing off the reasons students have for rebelling against the decision.
Typo recognition before an anonymous poster uses said typo to point to why SU is like a used tampon: “list” should be “least.”
This is 84. Honestly, your school blows. At most people have heard of it because of Ted Koppel or whatever fucking famous plastic head ‘journalist’ went there. Well, and our semi-retarded Vice President, but I wouldn’t use that one in the advertising.
I wouldn’t be excited in the least about going to a “Top 100″ school. I wouldn’t have been able to get my job if I had gone to your school. God only knows what I’d be doing now if I weren’t born with better brains than would get me into Syracuse. [shudders]
You have to understand that most people in my field went to a school where the first thought on mention is, “Wow, that’s an amazing school,” not, “Where?”
You’re an excellent example of the limited nature of people who are stuck going there, what with your visiting a humor and gossip site, bitching about how it injects opinion. Or bothering to correct a typo in a separate post. Seriously, how fucking lame can you be?
Let me give you an example you might be able to understand about how much of a douchebag you’re being. You watch The Colbert Report? Of course you do – you’re a college student who thinks he knows everything. It’s like sitting in the audience and saying, “I really doubt Colbert can play the guitar as well as Frampton.” It makes you as much of a joke as your school because you just don’t get it.
Last, but dear God not least, is how fucking dare you even *suggest* Jamie Dimon went to that cesspool? He went to Tufts, which is embarrassing enough. What you suggest is unthinkable.
Now GTFO, and go sit in an editing room, crying while you splice together fluff pieces on animals being born at the local zoo for the 6 o’clock news. That’s the rest of your life, muchacho. Until someone like me comes along and eliminates your division.
@87 — I’m not sure how you can say the school blows. If it did, it wouldn’t be in the top 100 schools in the country. I know you want to think it is because you apparently went to a better school. I’m happy that you liked the school you chose.
I could chose any alumni and you would find something wrong with them. Fair enough — there’s something wrong with everyone.
Which field do you work in and/or are you referring to?
I did not visit this right off the bat. Someone told me to check out the post and I did; then I had something to say about it — that’s all. You’re digging yourself a hole because here you are arguing with the person that visited a humor and gossip site and bitched about it. I bothered to correct the typo because — if I didn’t — you or someone else on here would say, “Oh, look at that! He can’t even spell the word ‘least!’ Must be an SU student…”
I do watch The Colbert Report on occasion but I have never claimed to know everything. I saw a post that I thought was crap and I said something about it.
If you had read more closely, you’d see that I wasn’t saying Jamie Dimon “came through here” in the sense that he graduated from here, but that he had “come through here” in the sense that he will be visiting.
You’re getting much angrier than I about this. I’m just posting on here talking about why SU students are upset (a side the post neglected to show).
It’s called Orangemen lacrosse mother fuckers.
Dillon – I admire your devotion to the university. I didn’t say your comment was stupid, I said that if Ashley was going to say something stupid, she shouldn’t be able to hide behind that fact that she’s only an innocent college student to avoid criticism. As far as the basketball team is concerned, I admit to engaging in hyperbole for that particular sport at Syracuse. Football still blows and Lacrosse isn’t what is used to be. However, even with basketball, it isn’t where you start the season or a tournament, it is where you finish that matters. You haven’t made the final four in seven years (http://www.fanbay.net/ncaa/final4.htm).
I’ve spent entirely too much time on this trivial matter. You can keep flogging this thread but I’m rather bored and am moving on.
– Fixed Income
@90 — I agree that Ashley should not be able to hide behind that either. You’re right — football still sucks. Lacrosse has won a couple championships and basketball’s last came in 2003.
@87 — That was poetry.
@88 — Being in the “top 100″ is not something to brag about. Sorry you found solving for x on the SATs to be so mind boggling.
@92 – I was not bragging about it, I was stating a fact. I agree that U.S. News & World Report shouldn’t be the first place to go when looking for a college. My point is that those schools in the top 100 are generally considered to be good.
Syracuse students should calm down and do some reading:
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THIS JUST IN:
The commencement speech at your graduation will be the most painfully boring affair you will ever experience. You will be hungover, it will be too bright outside, and you will be thinking about which girls you might possibly still be able to bang in your last 12 hours on campus. Your family will be secretly seething at you for forcing them to attend this 4-hours bullshit parade. You’ll all mumble the alma mater at the end and go have punch in the quad, where you will hit on your last best hope and she will decline. Then you will backpack around Europe and start work at KPMG. The end.
Dimon gave his talk, did well, and received a standing ovation from the grads of the Business School. I received my Ph.D. from Syracuse and have had students in our Ph.D. program in my PacTen University. I am very satisfied with the education that I received at Syracuse. Moreover, I have had students from the Big Ten, PacTen and ACC in my graduate school classes and they were nothing special. I also have received many awards in my discipline and I know many colleagues who have come from the top 50 schools you have mentioned and they have been denied tenure. Unless you are in the business world, where ass kissing is prominent or in some other “who you know is what you know” field, it is the person and note the school that counts. By the way, in addition to being at the top of my field, I own 5 properties and I just had the pleasure of rejecting one couple from Michigan and another from UNC who wanted to rent my houses.
GO Orange… and yes, it is 11 championships in Lacrosse, 1 in Football, 1 in Basketball, 6 in Crew. Not bad for a medium size school in a city where it snows often.
The SU campus is beautiful, with authentic architecture as opposed to buildings made to look old. Syracuse can lay claim to many great astronauts, inventors (artificial heart), writers (Oates and Craine), journalists, entertainers, etc. The Syracuse International Studies program is the envy of the nation and it is one of only 65 schools that are members of the Association of American Universities. I noticed that someone from Arizona State wrote in a snide remark………you wish you were a member of the AAU.
C11b2i I really liked your blog. Much obliged.