To be sure, Robert Karofsky did not have sexual intercourse with the cleaning lady on his desk at 60 Wall Street (…that we know of), but you’re getting warmer. In this case, the firm’s co-head of equities, known for his “magnetic personality,” allegedly used his pole to attract a senior trader, subordinate and close friend’s wife, which apparently no one told him when he first started at DB is something that’s not done. Maybe in other offices– Morgan Stanely, where he previously worked– but not DB.

Karofsky, 43, a top trader at the firm who ran Deutsche Bank’s Americas unit, took the leave for personal reasons on June 23, effectively immediately. A spokesman for the bank declined to comment further at the time. But multiple sources told The Post that the Karofsky move followed a heated verbal confrontation late last week at the firm’s headquarters at 60 Wall St. between him and the pal, a senior trader, over the alleged affair. The verbal volleys created a tense environment within Deutsche Bank’s insular trading ranks and have slowly become a source of water cooler gossip throughout the organization.

“He’s pretty much just avoided interacting with [Karofsky] since the incident,” one source said of the equities boss’ former pal. Making matters particularly sticky is the fact that Karofsky and the trader who worked under him have been longtime buddies, live near each other in Northern New Jersey and took family trips together. Among traders, Karofsky is referred to as “Killer Karofsky” for his trading acumen. Off the trading floor, however, he’s described as a fair, mild-mannered, even-keeled boss who has garnered the respect of his charges and has “a magnetic personality.”

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Comments (95)

  1. Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2010 at 9:30 AM

    nailing your cleaning lady in the A is the new killing it.

  2. Posted by sladd | June 25, 2010 at 9:36 AM

    who is the other trader, anyone have any info?

  3. Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2010 at 9:39 AM

    Deutsche Bank is a nasty place.

  4. Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2010 at 9:40 AM

    I gotta plead ignorance on this one.

  5. Posted by guest | June 25, 2010 at 9:41 AM

    Need I mention that stuff like this is no big deal at D. E. Shaw? Happens all the time.

  6. Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2010 at 9:45 AM

    There is an annoying typo – “apparently, no one told him…”

  7. Posted by sladd | June 25, 2010 at 9:45 AM

    who is Karossky’s co-head of equities?

  8. Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2010 at 9:48 AM

    @6 FTW

  9. Posted by guest | June 25, 2010 at 9:53 AM

    Where are the clients’ buddy’s hot-assed wives?

  10. Posted by Fag H8tR | June 25, 2010 at 9:55 AM

    Tits or else

  11. Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2010 at 10:00 AM

    Ok, like five posts by 10AM?? Pace yourself, sweetass

  12. Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2010 at 10:04 AM

    I once nailed a secretary in her Deutsche Bank, it wasn’t nasty at all.

  13. Posted by guest | June 25, 2010 at 10:05 AM

    @7 Garth Ritchie. Barry Bausano is filling in for Killer.

  14. Posted by Tax Chick | June 25, 2010 at 10:12 AM

    I’m going with [redacted]

  15. Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2010 at 10:23 AM

    Fucking Jersey…nothing but trash

  16. Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2010 at 10:24 AM

    @9 One of the best comments on this site in a while

  17. Posted by guest | June 25, 2010 at 10:27 AM

    @14/TC Why?

  18. Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2010 at 10:29 AM

    Verbal volleys for nailing my wife.

    That guy would be eating a paver stone one morning for breakfast and spitting out his teeth like tic tacs. Then, the next morning, he wouldn’t come in.

    Men are such b*tches nowadays.

  19. Posted by Tax Chick | June 25, 2010 at 10:32 AM

    @17 – just a wild, unsupported guess. Both live in NJ, members of the same clubs, donate to the same groups, he was a report of Killer, and both came from MS.

  20. Posted by derivative deviant | June 25, 2010 at 10:38 AM

    apparently hes a fan of scat…

    (i think i just vomited a little bit into my mouth)

  21. Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2010 at 10:41 AM

    “Even keeled” and “magnetic” personalities are like warships: They attract certain types of mines and can easily be blown up.

    ~Admiral Halsey

  22. Posted by sladd | June 25, 2010 at 10:41 AM

    @14 [redacated] is logged into Bloomberg today, so he is in the office…

  23. Posted by guest | June 25, 2010 at 10:41 AM

    @18 Bros before hos.

  24. Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2010 at 10:42 AM

    Props to @9 for continuing a 100 year old meme that NEVER gets old!!!

  25. Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2010 at 10:46 AM

    @24 i don’t get it- what is the reference?

  26. Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2010 at 10:47 AM

    The most dangerous trader in any trading room is the one with a nickname.

  27. Posted by guest | June 25, 2010 at 10:48 AM

    @22, Bloomberg Anywhere.
    Also, whether somebody is logged in on a Friday in the summer, or not, doesn’t necessarily tell you much.

  28. Posted by guest | June 25, 2010 at 10:59 AM

    I touch myself

  29. Posted by EvilBuzzard | June 25, 2010 at 10:59 AM

    See, if he’d just dumped his spew in the cleaning lady, no one would be having these petty little spats…

  30. Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2010 at 11:05 AM

    uh huh

  31. Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2010 at 11:10 AM

    @25…allow me to interject here. @9 and @24 are referring to an old, old joke in the broker/financial industry that has been around for many, many years. I heard the joke in reference to the Great Depression. Here is the joke as I heard it long ago:

    “A tour guide is leading a group around Chicago and as they approach the lake they see many large yachts and sailboats in a harbor. The tourguide announces, “And here are the fancy and expensive yachts of the city’s prominent brokers….”

    At that point, a tourist speaks up and asks, “Where are their client’s yachts?” So ends the joke with that punchline.

    The humor is in the observation that the brokers have made enough money to buy yachts but perhaps the clients have not.

    Over lo these many years, the joke has been bastardized to reflect a more general group as the butt of the joke: anyone in the financial industry. Your Joke Briefer sees that meme in the commentary here at least once a month it seems. And so @9 massaged it into the current thread as well. A recent example was:

    Re Gundlach: “Where are all the clients’ dildos?”

    Re Hudson: “Where are all the clients’ million dollar mausoleums?”

    Re Cohen: “Where are all the clients’ Zambonis?”

    Re Citi: “Where are all the clients’ naughty hawks?”

    Re Ping: “Where are all the clients’ dry erase markers?”

    And so on……

    ~The Joke Briefer

  32. Posted by guest | June 25, 2010 at 11:13 AM

    @31 mint. -9

  33. Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2010 at 11:14 AM

    Karofsky should ice his “pal”, that would bring their broship right back!

  34. Posted by Editoriat | June 25, 2010 at 11:16 AM

    @6; Just a small punctuation issue.

    “..which he apparently know. One told him when he…”

    Geez, we awl. Make them.

  35. Posted by derivative deviant | June 25, 2010 at 11:24 AM

    @34…
    In the context of the sentence you corrected, the correct form should be “knew”.

    If you want to be a pedant, be an accurate one, otherwise you just come across as an intern trying to be funny. Which of course they most certainly are not.

    - The pedant admonisher.

  36. Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2010 at 11:24 AM

    @31, i still do not get it
    -25

  37. Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2010 at 11:28 AM

    @34 Thanks Kouwe, good to see you’re still at the top of your game.

  38. Posted by aserafino | June 25, 2010 at 11:32 AM

    Mr. Deeds go to DB

  39. Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2010 at 11:33 AM

    don’t tase me bro

  40. Posted by Guest | June 25, 2010 at 11:34 AM

    @33

    I couldn’t agree more…..

    wait, when you said “ice” him, did you mean that in the ‘Jersey Shore’ sense or more in ‘The Sopranos’ sense?

    I personally feel the latter to be more appropriate.

  41. Posted by Bike | June 25, 2010 at 11:35 AM

    @25 You’re a moron, that’s why.

  42. Posted by Tito | June 25, 2010 at 11:36 AM

    @34 you are rather shallow and pedantic

  43. Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2010 at 11:39 AM

    apparently tho the close friend is the one pulling the costanza..

  44. Posted by Dick | June 25, 2010 at 11:44 AM

    he was called Killer Karofsky in grade school b/c I know. He used to beat people up, that’s how he got his name.

  45. Posted by guest | June 25, 2010 at 11:44 AM

    “You’re where you should be all the time, and when you’re not you’re with some underworld spy or the wife of a close friend” is stuck in my head so now you’re all cordially invited to suffer along with me.
    -guest

  46. Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2010 at 11:44 AM

    @40 – I meant “ice” in the “snowball” sense, but some bros told me watching your pals chug a smirnoff ice on their knees is much more pleasurable.

    -@33

  47. Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2010 at 11:45 AM

    jesus christ can we fix the second sentence already! fuk bess.

  48. Posted by Bess Levin | June 25, 2010 at 11:48 AM

    @47 S a D, guy. it’s fixed.

  49. Posted by Excuser | June 25, 2010 at 11:50 AM

    His D was metal, her P was a magnet. 2010 came, “El Killer got me pregnant.”

  50. Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2010 at 11:51 AM

    @3 True Dat.

  51. Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2010 at 11:53 AM

    Kouwe_ofsky

  52. Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2010 at 12:05 PM

    I think we need to bring out the Ping Magic Marker.

  53. Posted by guest | June 25, 2010 at 12:06 PM

    @28 FTMFW! COTD!

  54. Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2010 at 12:12 PM

    @Tax Chick: Yes.

  55. Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2010 at 12:20 PM

    So, all the funny commenters took the day off?

  56. Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2010 at 12:23 PM

    I fully expected “Hennigan’s” to be in the tags here. As a matter of fact I laughed about it preemptively.

  57. Posted by Tax Chick | June 25, 2010 at 12:27 PM

    What’s the over/under on Killer K’s wife pulling a Soprano on him?

  58. Posted by OptionsTrader | June 25, 2010 at 12:29 PM

    DB just downgraded the U.S. Financial System. I can see why. Homies actin’ like bitches. Pistols at dawn or dicks on the table.

  59. Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2010 at 12:30 PM

    @45 It worked. Dammit.

  60. Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2010 at 12:34 PM

    @55 So, I guess that’s why you’re here?

    @56 “That was a preemptive crap pools.”

  61. Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2010 at 12:39 PM

    What a class act this guys is. Ruin two families. Moron.

  62. Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2010 at 12:49 PM

    Trader: Did you f*ck my wife?

    Karofsky: What?

    Trader: Did you f*ck my wife?

    Karofsky: How do you ask me that? I’m your brother and you ask me that? Where do you get your balls big enough to ask me that?

    Trader: I’m gonna ask you again, did you or didn’t you? Just answer the question.

    Karofsky: I’m not gonna answer that. It’s stupid. It’s a sick question and you’re a sick f*ck and I’m not that sick that I’m gonna answer it. I’m leaving, You’re cracking up! You’re a f*cking screw ball.

  63. Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2010 at 12:50 PM

    @44, maybe he’s called “Killer Karofsky” because he sleeps around and gives AIDS to his intercourse partners.

  64. Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2010 at 12:53 PM

    @42 who’s the boss is not a food.

  65. Posted by PermaGuest | June 25, 2010 at 12:53 PM

    @45 you probably think this post is about you, don’t you?

  66. Posted by Bike | June 25, 2010 at 1:07 PM

    At Merrill, they would put us in a room once a year and some HR types would roleplay various situations. The point was to identify situations that were deemed appropriate/inappropriate as a learning tool. During the Q&A we were encouraged to give hypothetical situations and the HR types would give it a pass/fail. The question of adultry with a colleague’s spouse came up and we were told the company was fine with it. I found out later, the person asking the question was baiting a colleague who was infact having an affair with another guy’s wife.

  67. Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2010 at 1:12 PM

    “You claim to be a player but I fucked your wife”

    -Tupac, “Hit’em Up”

  68. Posted by sladd | June 25, 2010 at 1:16 PM

    Bess, does this sort of thing happen at DB? Spill the dirt…

  69. Posted by DB-what? | June 25, 2010 at 1:18 PM

    DB- as advertised,” The Passion to Perform!”.. Living the DB values never felt so good. . .

  70. Posted by Harry Balsagna | June 25, 2010 at 1:23 PM

    If sleeping with my best friend’s wife is wrong, then I don’t wanna right.

    -Killer Karofsky

  71. Posted by DB-what? | June 25, 2010 at 1:30 PM

    I was wondering why Killer Karofsky’s computer screen saver was a picture of Tiger woods, Al Gore and Jesse James..

  72. Posted by NakedShort | June 25, 2010 at 1:40 PM

    She just loved to get down with sex all the time. It was like… anytime of day, she was like, “Yeah, let’s go! I’m so nasty!” And I’d be nailing her and she’d be like, “Oh, you’re nailing me! Cool!”

  73. Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2010 at 1:43 PM

    Douwetsche Bank

  74. Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2010 at 1:45 PM

    Where are the clients’ Kouwes?nh

  75. Posted by Pfluger the Barbarian | June 25, 2010 at 1:50 PM

    Killer must have been a good listener, and probably provided the emotional support the subordinate’s wife was craving. The relationship probably evolved slowly, from a close friendship to something more, something that involved ass-pounding.

  76. Posted by sladd | June 25, 2010 at 2:23 PM

    so this was not a cuckold relationship…that explains the animosity

  77. Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2010 at 2:32 PM

    FWIW – Killer Kowalski was a well-known pro wrestler in the 60′s and 70′s. Anyone whose last name sounds like Kowalski is a candidate for the nickname.

  78. Posted by OneExcitedCollie | June 25, 2010 at 2:35 PM

    @66. We did the same thing at GS: the takehome was that all wives would fuck you if you asked them. It was suggested that you refrain from flirting with client/coworker wives.

    Also, at MD level, a mistress was considered better – less chance of press. This might have changed since the whole vampire-squid thing.

  79. Posted by Giacobe LaMotta | June 25, 2010 at 2:55 PM

    @62 FTW!

  80. Posted by Guest | June 25, 2010 at 4:03 PM

    Pigfuckers

  81. Posted by PermaGuest | June 25, 2010 at 4:09 PM

    @66/78 Would banging a colleagues wife have been considered a violation of the Bear Stearns no-nepotism rule?

  82. Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2010 at 4:27 PM

    @81 No, only if you fuck your colleagues’ daughters.

  83. Posted by D.O.U.G. | June 25, 2010 at 6:05 PM

    Someone does that to my old lady the dude is getting a Hot Stick up the ass, and not a whiteboard marker, while gripping on to a transformer.

  84. Posted by Douche Bank | June 25, 2010 at 6:47 PM

    I hear DB is killing it in the swaps department.. Credit default, Interest rates or Dividends?..

    NO…

    WIFE swaps!… #1 on the STREET in the greenwich survey.. BooYAH!

  85. Posted by Douche Bank | June 25, 2010 at 6:54 PM

    Is that a severance PACKAGE in your pocket? or are you just happy to see my wife? either way.. Someone gets fired and someone gets fvcked!

  86. Posted by 25 | June 25, 2010 at 7:21 PM

    @85,

    where are all the client’s severance PACKAGES????

    (like that?)

  87. Posted by Aaron | June 25, 2010 at 8:17 PM

    Corporate scum, i can see the guy in picture sniffing cocaine off a hookers tits trying to get a hard on. Puke inducing

  88. Posted by Anonymous | June 26, 2010 at 7:54 AM

    the guy in the picture isnt a trader or banker, look at his collar – those collars are for peasants

  89. Posted by cantstandya | June 26, 2010 at 6:45 PM

    @87 and @88 are you really that fucking unbelievably stupid that you don’t know where the picture is from?

  90. Posted by Anonymous | June 27, 2010 at 10:54 AM

    is it me, or does Robert Karofsky look exactly like George Costanza

  91. Posted by dd | June 27, 2010 at 3:05 PM

    I worked at a large Euro bank , and had the pleasure of seeing the COO “suspended” for getting caught with a back office support personnel on a conference room table by a security guard … but I digress

  92. Posted by Anonymous | June 28, 2010 at 12:27 PM

    This comment has been moderated

  93. Posted by guest | June 30, 2010 at 1:34 AM

    juicy

  94. Posted by Guest | July 2, 2010 at 12:10 PM

    Perhaps someone should ask if said “trader” was having an affair of his own… Not sure Killer killed that marriage.

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