I don’t think LaBeouf’s character [who attempted to raise capital for an alternative-energy company] was unrealistic from a personality standpoint. More Wall Street people than you’d think have that kind of beneath-the-surface idealism.“– Anonymous Goldman analyst, in a conversation with Dealbook discussing how “real” things are in Money Never Sleeps. The same financial services employee noted that “there were too many ties” and said he thought “the percentage of scenes that Jake wasn’t in the office was way off.” [Dealbook via DI]

Comments (73)

  1. Posted by guest | September 27, 2010 at 6:42 PM

    “the percentage of scenes that Jake wasn’t in the office was way off.”

    wait, so you’re telling me that a fictitious movie and character arent being true to real life? but tv and movies never lie. and this guy works at goldman

  2. Posted by indridcold | September 27, 2010 at 6:47 PM

    “More Wall Street people than you’d think have that kind of beneath-the-surface idealism.“

    -didn’t Trader Monthly devote an issue per year to these types?

  3. Posted by Dudley7 | September 27, 2010 at 6:49 PM

    If you saw this moview, kill yourself

  4. Posted by Anonymous | September 27, 2010 at 6:51 PM

    Admit it, Bess: I give you lady priapism.

  5. Posted by SlowerLower3rd | September 27, 2010 at 6:54 PM

    Money Never MEEEEPS

  6. Posted by Guest | September 27, 2010 at 6:55 PM

    I can’t wait for a movie that actually portrays the professional life of an engineer. That’ll be awesome.

  7. Posted by Guest | September 27, 2010 at 6:57 PM

    How about that cameo by Bud Fox and how the hell did Gekko get to London and set up shop so quickly?

  8. Posted by Mtbike001 | September 27, 2010 at 7:00 PM

    You need to see the movie for one reason, and one reason only: It is the worst movie ever made. It could give Gigli a run for its money. Totally preposterous. The motorcycle scene was laugh out loud ridiculous!

  9. Posted by Dudley7 | September 27, 2010 at 7:01 PM

    Wall Street 3: Gekkos Dead

  10. Posted by Anal_yst | September 27, 2010 at 7:01 PM

    Drank my way through it last night, almost did. I’ve never seen a movie that made me more angry, argh!

  11. Posted by thenewkillingit82 | September 27, 2010 at 7:03 PM

    the movie was awful – we were all just pissed at each other from disappointment when we left.
    1. What prop trader sleeps till 6:50?
    2. What the hell was the deal with the Not-Goldman old man’s “bird’s chirping, whistling..”

  12. Posted by Goldman Analyst | September 27, 2010 at 7:07 PM

    I remember one time last winter, when it was really cold out, I was walking down Third Avenue and I saw a man sitting on a grate. I wanted to help, but the smallest bill I had was a $50, and there was no way I could break that in the little supermarket run by the Asian man on the corner. But, anyway, my girlfriend said it was really nice of me to even think about it. I’ll never forget that day.

  13. Posted by NakedShort | September 27, 2010 at 7:07 PM

    19 mil over opening weekend? I make that much during my afternoon shit.

    -D. Tepper

  14. Posted by ChooChoo | September 27, 2010 at 7:08 PM

    Yeah, I always wanted to drive a train to.
    -AIG Risk Analyst

  15. Posted by Milksteak | September 27, 2010 at 7:12 PM

    Or “Algos Never Beep,” a story about a code of silence that permeates the algo community and the self-aware STAR who strikes fear into the hearts of programmers. “5n1tche5 get 5t1tche5″ indeed.

    I think Oliver Stone was already starting to open that door with all the lame animation in this one.

  16. Posted by ChooChoo | September 27, 2010 at 7:16 PM

    I make that while switching from lane 2 to lane 3.
    -L. Robbins

  17. Posted by Billy | September 27, 2010 at 7:18 PM

    you think the revolting blob is still trading?

  18. Posted by OptionsTrader | September 27, 2010 at 7:23 PM

    Never saw a movie that made you that angry? How about every Sunday night when you angrily beat the shit out of yourself while starring deeply into Sean Hannity’s eyes.

  19. Posted by SlowerLower3rd | September 27, 2010 at 7:26 PM

    My dreams tend to involve Katy Perry’s boobs smacking my face gingerly.

  20. Posted by OptionsTrader | September 27, 2010 at 7:27 PM

    Decided to watch Boardwalk empire and EB&D instead of this fuckery of a movie. Let’s next make a movie about Quants at AIG and somehow get a helicopter and shark battle scene mixed in it.

  21. Posted by GeneralPublic | September 27, 2010 at 7:28 PM

    I thought the movie was a pretty accurate portrayal of Wall Street: A few people (Oliver Stone and others) are going to make money off of something (shitty movie) with little to no actual value.

  22. Posted by Mr. Market | September 27, 2010 at 7:31 PM

    [SPOLIER ALERT / analytical inference ] Gekko got to London and set up shop in a span of months, not seconds like the film implied. If you’re astute, you’ll notice that his computer screen shows 1.3bn long / .3bn short, which implied that his 1000% returns were driven by being levered long (ie, spring/summer 2009), not, by shorting the market. This also leads us to believe that Gordon is inherently good, being a global optimist, which accounts for his change of emotional disposition at the very end.

  23. Posted by CMBS 4-Life | September 27, 2010 at 7:36 PM

    how to tell if a movie is truly quality…if they can ever-so-eloquently slip the title into the script!

    -Mike Winchell

  24. Posted by Texashedge | September 27, 2010 at 7:37 PM

    I saw this movie Sat evening in one of those theaters that serve booze and didn’t think it was as bad as some of the commenters here (or Bess). I laughed quite a few times–mostly when I wasn’t supposed to.

    Couple of random thoughts:

    1) Had they just eliminated Shia and his girlfriend (esp her) from the movie and revolved the plot around Gekko, the the Dick Fuld/Cayne amalgam, and the Blankfein/Dimon/Schwartzman amalgam, it probably would have made for a much more palatable experience

    2) I really enjoyed B/D/S (who you might remember as “W”) and the fake Fuld/Cayne (who you might remember as “Nixon”). Some fantastic over-the-top contrast: fake Fuld walking his dog in his bathrobe through Central Park, mumbling; fake B/D/S wearing a red smoking jacket onto his trade floor and smashing multi-million dollar works of art.

    3) Oliver Stone took a lot of money from Ducati, Heineken, Johnny Walker, and CNBC

    4) Everyone wore suitcoats and pocket squares to internal meetings right off the trade floor

    5) Shia doesn’t give us any indication that his character is at all good at his job. He really only does three things: a) he invests all his money into his own company right after the CEO tells him straight up that he doesn’t know what he’s doing anymore–and he does so on margin b) he buys these Chinese investors presents ala Pete Campell (and they ignore his advice anyway) and c) he starts a fake rumor about a fake Ted Obiang. Also is he a trader, an I-Banker, a venture capitalist? Seems like they made him all three. Also, “laser fusion”?

    6) Very underwhelming cameo by Charlie Sheen, who appeared as Charlie from Two and a Half Men

    7) The guy who played “the Ugly” in the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly is fairly enjoyable

    8) Gekko’s daugher is really, really terrible

  25. Posted by CMBS 4-Life | September 27, 2010 at 7:43 PM

    mexican scooters

  26. Posted by Anonymous | September 27, 2010 at 7:46 PM

    Re: 3)-even more than consumer goods sponsorships, how about the product placements by financial services firms? I’m specifically thinking Lightspeed, Skybridge, and Superfund, but I probably missed others.

  27. Posted by Why Dee | September 27, 2010 at 7:47 PM

    So like, 1/2 an issue then?

  28. Posted by Guest | September 27, 2010 at 7:50 PM

    My problem with the part about the “span of months” is that the old bird chirping man came to him for help with his struggling non-Goldman bank. It doesn’t seem believable, even as desperate as they may have been, to wait months before reaching out for help to him.

  29. Posted by Shee-Yah Le Poof | September 27, 2010 at 7:54 PM

    I thought that was the Trader Dater of the month.

  30. Posted by ChooChoo | September 27, 2010 at 7:55 PM

    aka Donkeys to us Americans.

  31. Posted by ChooChoo | September 27, 2010 at 7:57 PM

    How soon can you start a script.
    -O. Stone

  32. Posted by Guest | September 27, 2010 at 8:07 PM

    Given the magnitude of your last train wreck I think it would better for everyone if you just pushed that little dream aside.

  33. Posted by Anonymous | September 27, 2010 at 8:07 PM

    “BofA analyst: None of the transactions made any sense.”

    I feel ya, man.

    -AIG Quant

  34. Posted by Guest | September 27, 2010 at 8:12 PM

    Did anyone else find it humorous that OS had his anti-greed/corruption “hero” in the movie laundering money to avoid US tax laws……?

    Way to think that one out Ollie.

  35. Posted by Anal_yst | September 27, 2010 at 8:17 PM

    Not sure why I’m dignifying that comment with a response as it was neither funny nor true, but yea, you got me there, HUGE Hannity and masochism fan, how’d you guess?

  36. Posted by KP in MEXICO | September 27, 2010 at 8:19 PM

    I’m the man who has the ball. I’m the man who can throw it faster than fuck. So that is why i am better than everyone in the world. Kiss my ass and suck my dick… everyone.

  37. Posted by Guest | September 27, 2010 at 8:25 PM

    Did anyone else have a preview of a train movie with denzel before hand?

  38. Posted by Guest | September 27, 2010 at 8:30 PM

    Meh, the ends justify the means, if their his ends, that is.

  39. Posted by Guest | September 27, 2010 at 8:29 PM

    I actually enjoyed it. Aside from some of the ridiculous parts (motorcycles, Gekko’s daughter, bird-noise-guy, Shia’s magical PE/trader/IB job) it was alright. Was mostly good to see Gekko on screen again, especially at the end.

    And yeah, whoever said Bud Fox turned into Charlie from Two and Half Men nailed it.

  40. Posted by OptionsTrader | September 27, 2010 at 8:35 PM

    Sorry Anal_yst but your comments add as much value as a Lehman CMO circa 2006. Also, your website is hilarious, not in a comedic way, but because it’s sad. Therefore I’ve marked you from neutral to under-perform.

  41. Posted by Anal_yst | September 27, 2010 at 8:39 PM

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH wait, you’re talking about adding value? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

  42. Posted by Asdf | September 27, 2010 at 8:42 PM

    Very accurate analysis

  43. Posted by CMBS 4-Life | September 27, 2010 at 8:44 PM

    carrie mulligan with long blond hair could be an 8 (at least an 8 by our soon-to-be wall st IB analyst/crushing-all-sorts-of-ass friend) but instead goes in a different direction altogether to what the becomes an epic fail. Possible trilogy: Pesos Never Purchase

  44. Posted by Erik | September 27, 2010 at 8:48 PM

    OfficeSpace.

  45. Posted by Mr. Market | September 27, 2010 at 9:19 PM

    Theres been a lot of confusion as to (1) How Shia got a 1.45MM bonus, and (2) How he was running PE/trading/IB concurrently. The relationship between the two points should be fairly obvious — he worked 240 hour weeks.

  46. Posted by Jimmy | September 27, 2010 at 9:43 PM

    What moron works a job that requires getting up prior to that. I slept ’till 8 am this morning buddy, what the fuck were you doing?

  47. Posted by DoveHunter | September 27, 2010 at 9:51 PM

    This movie would be a hit if the said spotlight investment fund was Handbridge Capital.

  48. Posted by JackDonaghy | September 27, 2010 at 10:02 PM

    Gekko turned 100m into 1.1B in what, 1 month. The movie was a total letdown. Except for Charlie Sheen’s cameo.

  49. Posted by Texashedge | September 27, 2010 at 10:12 PM

    While never spending any time in the office

  50. Posted by Anonymous | September 27, 2010 at 10:31 PM

    Too many ties is right. There’s a strange perception of Wall Street types as all suits. Get a bunch of quants in a room and it well smell like any college computer science lab, with everyone in similar attire.

    http://proposition13.blogspot.com/2010/09/vmware-irrelevance.html

  51. Posted by Pi Are Round | September 27, 2010 at 10:43 PM

    Toyota makes and sells the Priaps, dickweed, not Bess.

    -AIG Quant

  52. Posted by Guest Emeritus | September 27, 2010 at 10:47 PM

    Thanks, Naked, I needed a good laugh today!

  53. Posted by NakedShort | September 27, 2010 at 11:13 PM

    FYI. You’re both fags. Like big time.

  54. Posted by BroMontana | September 28, 2010 at 4:03 AM

    Put on your helmet we’ll be exceeding speeds of 3.

  55. Posted by BroMontana | September 28, 2010 at 4:07 AM

    Anyone that has Tom Cruise’s character from Tropic Thunder as his Avatar is ok in my book. Keep up the good work Anal_lyst

  56. Posted by ZK | September 28, 2010 at 4:27 AM

    # @TSKimberJames just move to NYC already! about 10 hours ago via TweetDeck in reply to TSKimberJames

    Anal_yst, you do realize what the TS in her name stands for yeah? Or, get ready for a Shanghai surprise!

  57. Posted by Guest | September 28, 2010 at 10:16 AM

    about that laser fusion- interesting story…
    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/28/science/28scientist.html

  58. Posted by GSPS | September 28, 2010 at 12:45 PM

    So the BAML analyst was the caterer correct? Otherwise he would NEVER be allowed in the same room as those other analysts.

  59. Posted by HalleyTosis | September 28, 2010 at 2:55 PM

    did anyone else enjoy the part where they switch the briefcase holding the Orange Futures report and Eddie Murphy and Dan Akroyd corner the market all the whilst taking down Mortimer and his brother? I do not understand why people did not like this movie – it rocked!

  60. Posted by Twoandaquartermen | September 28, 2010 at 2:57 PM

    Spolier Alert!!!!! This movie blew!

  61. Posted by Superfund Roundlot Trader | September 28, 2010 at 3:16 PM

    oh and forgot to mention the scene where gekko walks into his office and shias waiting for him there with the lights off….probably my favorite scene

  62. Posted by Texashedge | September 28, 2010 at 3:28 PM

    Bald Billy Zane was actually that guy Tom Belesis

  63. Posted by Amused Female | September 29, 2010 at 9:30 AM

    I can’t believe any of you actually went to see this movie after all the howls of protest when OS cast Shia LePoof in the role of an IBer. Literally banging my head on my desktop while squealing with laughter.

    I’m a female, I’m allowed to squeal when boys/men do stupid stuff.

  64. Posted by Yung_archum | September 27, 2010 at 6:51 PM

    ‘ws 3: algos never sleep’ should be about god’s work
    - guy whose performance is impaired by gods work

  65. Posted by Yung_archum | September 27, 2010 at 6:51 PM

    ‘ws 3: algos never sleep’ should be about god’s work
    - guy whose performance is impaired by gods work

  66. Posted by Yung_archum | September 27, 2010 at 6:51 PM

    ‘ws 3: algos never sleep’ should be about god’s work
    - guy whose performance is impaired by gods work

  67. Posted by Yung_archum | September 27, 2010 at 6:51 PM

    ‘ws 3: algos never sleep’ should be about god’s work
    - guy whose performance is impaired by gods work

  68. Posted by Guest | September 27, 2010 at 7:27 PM

    Yeah they were going like 45mph. WTF? What motorized vehicle goes that slow?

  69. Posted by Guest | September 27, 2010 at 9:09 PM

    a couple… uh… is attacked… by a giant… uh… lamp monster!

  70. Posted by Superfund Roundlot Trader | September 28, 2010 at 3:10 PM

    God that movie was hilarious to watch
    can we touch more on the trading floor with everyone simultaneously making NYSE floor 1980s hand motions? Also the bald Billy Zane long island juicehead who thought google was a bubble (ha, you got him shia you dog)

  71. Posted by Superfund Roundlot Trader | September 28, 2010 at 3:10 PM

    God that movie was hilarious to watch
    can we touch more on the trading floor with everyone simultaneously making NYSE floor 1980s hand motions? Also the bald Billy Zane long island juicehead who thought google was a bubble (ha, you got him shia you dog)

  72. Posted by Mtbike001 | September 28, 2010 at 6:25 PM

    I’m reporting Shia to FINRA. Those gifts to the Chinese were worth more than $100.00. Also, I think suicide would be a better option than enduring life with Gekko’s daughter. Also, why was Shia dressed up as PeeWee Herman the whiole time?

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