Numbers out today.
Apparently IB bonuses are “20% down at the senior management level, 10% for the absolute peons, and 10-15% for everyone else.”
That’s all we know for now, let us know if there’s anything you’d like to get off your chest.
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to access Dealbreaker
this would really be more helpful with actual numbers
this would really be more helpful with actual numbers
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They’ve helped thousands, they’ll help you, too. One lump sum of cash they will pay to you. If you got screwed on your bonus and you need cash now.
Call J.G. Wentworth!
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They’ve helped thousands, they’ll help you, too. One lump sum of cash they will pay to you. If you got screwed on your bonus and you need cash now.
Call J.G. Wentworth!
877 CASH NOW
They’ve helped thousands, they’ll help you, too. One lump sum of cash they will pay to you. If you got screwed on your bonus and you need cash now.
Call J.G. Wentworth!
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your bonus is waiting in the 2nd floor cafeteria.-Head ChefJP Morgan Donuts, Inc.
then why don’t you get out there and get some actual numbers, champ?
Hey – what happened to Anal_yst? Back to the farm in ND? Haven’t seen him post lately.
- Guy who posts off-topic shit
I disagree, guest. Bonuses that only drop 20% in bad economic times send out an alarm. Remember, the banks don’t create anything, banks just buy companies that lose value after being denied credit that they used to be able to get and pretend they did something.
Banks suction money out of local economies, then repackage it in triplicate and take their cut at the beginning, not as the transaction has aged.
Banks then use the upfront cut to move industry to the lowest cost places on the planet, causing the U.S. middle class to default through lack of jobs, banks then swoop in and take property, and then reward themselves with huge bonuses.
http://www.swarmthebanks.com
http://www.parallelforeclosure.com
http://www.unfairforeclosures.com
more useful advice for Credit Suisse employees perhaps?
Thank you for your explanation of how this industry works. Are you declaring a blood libel on banking?
Take it easy Michael Moore.
But yet, does anyone know present value of their bonus numbers?
The jail in Tuscon has internet?
Go back to your shanties
-Shooter
because i don’t know any JPM bankers, sport.
Too soon?
Too soon?
you disagree? you care more about the % change in your income than the actual amount? that’s retarded,
you disagree? you care more about the % change in your income than the actual amount? that’s retarded,
how about, what were last year’s numbers? help to put this 10-15% business into context.
how about, what were last year’s numbers? help to put this 10-15% business into context.
how about, what were last year’s numbers? help to put this 10-15% business into context.
how about, what were last year’s numbers? help to put this 10-15% business into context.
how about, what were last year’s numbers? help to put this 10-15% business into context.
I debated it but after consideration I thought comparing him to the wacko was ok. Had I involved any of the victims I think that would have been in bad taste.
I debated it but after consideration I thought comparing him to the wacko was ok. Had I involved any of the victims I think that would have been in bad taste.
I debated it but after consideration I thought comparing him to the wacko was ok. Had I involved any of the victims I think that would have been in bad taste.
I debated it but after consideration I thought comparing him to the wacko was ok. Had I involved any of the victims I think that would have been in bad taste.
Or perhaps UBS employees…
- Guy who thinks he’s smart
Or perhaps UBS employees…
- Guy who thinks he’s smart
Or perhaps UBS employees…
- Guy who thinks he’s smart
Or perhaps UBS employees…
- Guy who thinks he’s smart
Or perhaps UBS employees…
- Guy who thinks he’s smart
Great! Now go back to fu(k!ng your sister…
O HAI!
I find it hard to believe that the source of this quote is in the know given that 1st, 2nd and 3rd year analysts at JPM get paid in Q3, not in Q1 with everyone else.
I find it hard to believe that the source of this quote is in the know given that 1st, 2nd and 3rd year analysts at JPM get paid in Q3, not in Q1 with everyone else.
not sure why the 1/2/3 analyst thing is in there but as someone who got paid today, at JPM, I can tell you that the numbers are accurate.
Fair point. Proceed.
Rule #1, HR must not operate by subversively questioning fact based anonymous tips to dealbreaker about compensation with lies, lies and more lies!
Rule #2, The customer is always right
http://www2.goldmansachs.com/our-firm/business-standards-committee/index.html
Ah yes so after months of your torment you reveal where you work eh? Does Jamie know that you fap under his desk late at night while slowly crying yourself to sleep?
Ah yes so after months of your torment you reveal where you work eh? Does Jamie know that you fap under his desk late at night while slowly crying yourself to sleep?
Ah yes so after months of your torment you reveal where you work eh? Does Jamie know that you fap under his desk late at night while slowly crying yourself to sleep?
Ah yes so after months of your torment you reveal where you work eh? Does Jamie know that you fap under his desk late at night while slowly crying yourself to sleep?
well let’s do some basic math. if employee 1 has a bonus target of 100k, and employee 2 has a bonus target of 75k, what would be a way to provide one description for how both employees might get paid? If I could tell E1 that his salary his bonus is going down 15k, but that wouldn’t be the same number for E2…BUT if I said you’re both getting a 15% cut in bonus…it would be applicable to both, and each employee could get a ball park.
-Rocket Scientist
The corporations…they sit in their corporation buildings, acting all corporation-y, and they make money.
The corporations…they sit in their corporation buildings, acting all corporation-y, and they make money.
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LOL, agreed, anon number one def came from JPM-HR.
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LOL, agreed, anon number one def came from JPM-HR.
LOL, agreed, anon number one def came from JPM-HR.
LOL, agreed, anon number one def came from JPM-HR.
LOL, agreed, anon number one def came from JPM-HR.
LOL, agreed, anon number one def came from JPM-HR.
LOL, agreed, anon number one def came from JPM-HR.
let’s do some basic math. if your bonus is 1k and it goes up 100% then you think you are better off than if your bonus is 100k and goes down to 85k?
retarded.
let’s do some basic math. if your bonus is 1k and it goes up 100% then you think you are better off than if your bonus is 100k and goes down to 85k?
retarded.
let’s do some basic math. if your bonus is 1k and it goes up 100% then you think you are better off than if your bonus is 100k and goes down to 85k?
retarded.
let’s do some basic math. if your bonus is 1k and it goes up 100% then you think you are better off than if your bonus is 100k and goes down to 85k?
retarded.
Tinfoil hat. Get one.
Tinfoil hat. Get one.
Tinfoil hat. Get one.
Tinfoil hat. Get one.
Thank you rocket scientist. The bonus amount has already reached obscene levels, so knowing the percentage of the reduction lets us know if our banksters are still in an obscene state, which it appears they are.
If the banksters read this, they may think, “we’re damned if we do, damned if we don’t”.
To which I would say, no, you’re damned for not doing enough.
lets not forget those bankster bonuses maybe being used to seed the stock market so us main street suckers feel like we are losing out if we don’t get back in.
Thank you rocket scientist. The bonus amount has already reached obscene levels, so knowing the percentage of the reduction lets us know if our banksters are still in an obscene state, which it appears they are.
If the banksters read this, they may think, “we’re damned if we do, damned if we don’t”.
To which I would say, no, you’re damned for not doing enough.
lets not forget those bankster bonuses maybe being used to seed the stock market so us main street suckers feel like we are losing out if we don’t get back in.
Thank you rocket scientist. The bonus amount has already reached obscene levels, so knowing the percentage of the reduction lets us know if our banksters are still in an obscene state, which it appears they are.
If the banksters read this, they may think, “we’re damned if we do, damned if we don’t”.
To which I would say, no, you’re damned for not doing enough.
lets not forget those bankster bonuses maybe being used to seed the stock market so us main street suckers feel like we are losing out if we don’t get back in.
Thank you rocket scientist. The bonus amount has already reached obscene levels, so knowing the percentage of the reduction lets us know if our banksters are still in an obscene state, which it appears they are.
If the banksters read this, they may think, “we’re damned if we do, damned if we don’t”.
To which I would say, no, you’re damned for not doing enough.
lets not forget those bankster bonuses maybe being used to seed the stock market so us main street suckers feel like we are losing out if we don’t get back in.
Thank you rocket scientist. The bonus amount has already reached obscene levels, so knowing the percentage of the reduction lets us know if our banksters are still in an obscene state, which it appears they are.
If the banksters read this, they may think, “we’re damned if we do, damned if we don’t”.
To which I would say, no, you’re damned for not doing enough.
lets not forget those bankster bonuses maybe being used to seed the stock market so us main street suckers feel like we are losing out if we don’t get back in.
Thank you rocket scientist. The bonus amount has already reached obscene levels, so knowing the percentage of the reduction lets us know if our banksters are still in an obscene state, which it appears they are.
If the banksters read this, they may think, “we’re damned if we do, damned if we don’t”.
To which I would say, no, you’re damned for not doing enough.
lets not forget those bankster bonuses maybe being used to seed the stock market so us main street suckers feel like we are losing out if we don’t get back in.
Thank you rocket scientist. The bonus amount has already reached obscene levels, so knowing the percentage of the reduction lets us know if our banksters are still in an obscene state, which it appears they are.
If the banksters read this, they may think, “we’re damned if we do, damned if we don’t”.
To which I would say, no, you’re damned for not doing enough.
lets not forget those bankster bonuses maybe being used to seed the stock market so us main street suckers feel like we are losing out if we don’t get back in.
Thank you rocket scientist. The bonus amount has already reached obscene levels, so knowing the percentage of the reduction lets us know if our banksters are still in an obscene state, which it appears they are.
If the banksters read this, they may think, “we’re damned if we do, damned if we don’t”.
To which I would say, no, you’re damned for not doing enough.
lets not forget those bankster bonuses maybe being used to seed the stock market so us main street suckers feel like we are losing out if we don’t get back in.
Thank you rocket scientist. The bonus amount has already reached obscene levels, so knowing the percentage of the reduction lets us know if our banksters are still in an obscene state, which it appears they are.
If the banksters read this, they may think, “we’re damned if we do, damned if we don’t”.
To which I would say, no, you’re damned for not doing enough.
lets not forget those bankster bonuses maybe being used to seed the stock market so us main street suckers feel like we are losing out if we don’t get back in.
Thank you rocket scientist. The bonus amount has already reached obscene levels, so knowing the percentage of the reduction lets us know if our banksters are still in an obscene state, which it appears they are.
If the banksters read this, they may think, “we’re damned if we do, damned if we don’t”.
To which I would say, no, you’re damned for not doing enough.
lets not forget those bankster bonuses maybe being used to seed the stock market so us main street suckers feel like we are losing out if we don’t get back in.
Thank you rocket scientist. The bonus amount has already reached obscene levels, so knowing the percentage of the reduction lets us know if our banksters are still in an obscene state, which it appears they are.
If the banksters read this, they may think, “we’re damned if we do, damned if we don’t”.
To which I would say, no, you’re damned for not doing enough.
lets not forget those bankster bonuses maybe being used to seed the stock market so us main street suckers feel like we are losing out if we don’t get back in.
Thank you rocket scientist. The bonus amount has already reached obscene levels, so knowing the percentage of the reduction lets us know if our banksters are still in an obscene state, which it appears they are.
If the banksters read this, they may think, “we’re damned if we do, damned if we don’t”.
To which I would say, no, you’re damned for not doing enough.
lets not forget those bankster bonuses maybe being used to seed the stock market so us main street suckers feel like we are losing out if we don’t get back in.
Don’t call me sport, pal.
Despite your obscene efforts to sound professional, your grammar and capitalization has witnessed a clear reduction by the end of your comment.
Despite your obscene efforts to sound professional, your grammar and capitalization has witnessed a clear reduction by the end of your comment.
Despite your obscene efforts to sound professional, your grammar and capitalization has witnessed a clear reduction by the end of your comment.
Despite your obscene efforts to sound professional, your grammar and capitalization has witnessed a clear reduction by the end of your comment.
Despite your obscene efforts to sound professional, your grammar and capitalization has witnessed a clear reduction by the end of your comment.
Declaring a blood libel? The guy can barely communicate via written word…
Likely he watched most of two episodes of Olbermann and a grainy youtube conspiracy video, took a big huff of glue and set to the keyboard.
Declaring a blood libel? The guy can barely communicate via written word…
Likely he watched most of two episodes of Olbermann and a grainy youtube conspiracy video, took a big huff of glue and set to the keyboard.
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Alessandro, buddy, take a play off.
You’e linguistically capable at a remedial level, undermining your attempt at gravitas. Further your grasp of finance is halluciogenic at best.
He could have also watched Wall Street 2…
You eloquently hammered home your cogent argument with your repeated use of the term “bankster”, but I think it would have carried even more weight if you had thrown in a “fat cat” or two.
Fail. Permission to re-try denied.
Mr. Machi,
This site is a site for Finance types. The information provided is intended for a Finance audience. We receive the bonuses, so we care about how our colleagues look in comparison to us. If we wanted an opinion from someone who didn’t know anything about Finance, we would ask. However in this instance we did not. You can cry and complain that we get paid too much all you want. It will not change the status quo, nor will it get you recognition for starting a crusade (because let’s be honest, at this point you’re just jumping on the band wagon). If you would like to effect a change in policy, I suggest writing your local Politburo, and bring the iron curtain down on the United States. Until then, your comments will receive a similar reaction, on this site, as you have previously seen. Thank you.
I work at UBS… I’ll be happy with 20% less than JPM got last year. Our firm sucks dick
okay chief
Alessandro: I would like you to actually try explaining what investment banking is. It appears you don’t understand the difference between investment banking and your local Chase teller. Congratulations on properly using a Google News alert to land here, but you really don’t belong.
http://alessandromachi.blogspot.com
Actually, I got here by way of http://www.swarmthebanks.com, http://www.parallelforeclosure.com and http://www.unfairforeclosures.com
It’s pretty clear how clueless you are at the damage banksters have done, continue to do, and will continue to do until they are thrown under the bus.
On the other hand, some of you responders don’t know the difference between percentage and actual amount of a bonus, so, just what grade did you get to?
This reply should go after the stupid remarks, not before. Oh wait a minute, never mind.
So, if Bank A gives out 500,000 dollar bonuses, and Bank B gives out 250,000 dollar bonuses, You think Bank B should what, not reduce their bonuses because they were already less?
What is investment banking? At Chase Bank, the divisions that make the most money are the ones that buy distressed properties. Look it up. While some divisions at chase bank appear to lose money, those divisions create opportunities for the investment bankers to buy properties that become distressed because of Chase Bank’s actions.
Oh yeah, Chase Bank has the biggest stake of any bank in British Spilloleum.
“On the other hand, some of you responders don’t know the difference between percentage and actual amount of a bonus, so, just what grade did you get to?”
No we get it. You want to know what they’re getting paid so you can turn around and crucify them. What you don’t get is that we don’t care about what you think. We care about how bonuses are year over year. A percentage estimation is fine for the intended audience.
You want numbers? I’ll give you numbers. Salary + (2009 Bonus*.80) = $249,999.99 for Sr. Employees. Salary+(2009 Bonus*.90) = $249,999.99 for all other employees not on a bonus system Salary = $249,999.99. And not one penney more!
Since when did Chase ever pay big bonuses?
Investment bankers buy distressed properties for and from their respective firms? That’s news to me
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I’m concerned you’re going to hurt yourself – you should probably take a break and go back to designing special effects for commercials for a while. If you insist on continuing this, you should probably do some sort of interwebs search (this “Google” thing comes to mind) for a definition of investment banking. It won’t be complete, but it should be a decent starting point for you.
If you do start to feel woozy, I might suggest you consult with Dr. Mark Klein, M.D. You and he would get along well.
“At Chase Bank, the divisions that make the most money are the ones that buy distressed properties.”
Do you mean the most profitable, or that generate the most revenue? Put another way, do they “make the most money” on an absolute dollar basis or on a percentage basis? And, actually, rather than me looking it up, I would prefer you provide a verifiable citation as backup for your statement, please.
“At Chase Bank, the divisions that make the most money are the ones that buy distressed properties.”
Do you mean the most profitable, or that generate the most revenue? Put another way, do they “make the most money” on an absolute dollar basis or on a percentage basis? And, actually, rather than me looking it up, I would prefer you provide a verifiable citation as backup for your statement, please.
“At Chase Bank, the divisions that make the most money are the ones that buy distressed properties.”
Do you mean the most profitable, or that generate the most revenue? Put another way, do they “make the most money” on an absolute dollar basis or on a percentage basis? And, actually, rather than me looking it up, I would prefer you provide a verifiable citation as backup for your statement, please.
“At Chase Bank, the divisions that make the most money are the ones that buy distressed properties.”
Do you mean the most profitable, or that generate the most revenue? Put another way, do they “make the most money” on an absolute dollar basis or on a percentage basis? And, actually, rather than me looking it up, I would prefer you provide a verifiable citation as backup for your statement, please.
Fuck, now I feel guilty about my seven figure bonus. I’ll be returning it now.
- Chase Bankster
Fuck, now I feel guilty about my seven figure bonus. I’ll be returning it now.
- Chase Bankster
Fuck, now I feel guilty about my seven figure bonus. I’ll be returning it now.
- Chase Bankster
You’re welcome shareholders
-JD
Can someone just post the ranges for first second and third year associates instead of this bs talk which nobody really cares about.
In no way does investment banking have anything to do with credit cards, home valuation, nor buying distressed properties. What you are thinking of is Credit Card Divisions, Lending Divisions, and some possibly Commercial Banking divisions of RETAIL BANKS. Chase Bank is a retail bank, not an investment bank. JPMorgan Investment Bank is an investment bank, however it does none of what you described above. The “Banksters” term that you picked up from the media is used to describe something completely different than what you have written above.
I was told there would be no math
Hey Alessandro, I’m the only one who is an asshole and annoying around here so get the fuck out. And because you used the dumbest word in the history of Modern man, Bankster, go ahead throw yourself out of your office window Die Hard style.
-Guy who not a Bankster but is a fan of their work
Hey Alessandro, I’m the only one who is an asshole and annoying around here so get the fuck out. And because you used the dumbest word in the history of Modern man, Bankster, go ahead throw yourself out of your office window Die Hard style.
-Guy who not a Bankster but is a fan of their work
Price is Wrong Bitch
Price is Wrong Bitch
Anyone else think that “Bankster and the Fat Cats” would be a decent name for a punk band?
No? Just me? Damn.
Anyone else think that “Bankster and the Fat Cats” would be a decent name for a punk band?
No? Just me? Damn.
Sorry, UBS-er. The economy’s picking up. Hopefully you can escape soon.
Sorry, UBS-er. The economy’s picking up. Hopefully you can escape soon.
Sorry, UBS-er. The economy’s picking up. Hopefully you can escape soon.
Whatever it is, it’s more than I’m getting.
I tried to “Like” your comment, but my brain wouldn’t let me, what with you being CurrencyTrader and all.
Let me help you; this is where you meant to go: http://huffingtonpost.com
I always thought that Moral Hazzard would be a great band name.
Lloyd and the Golden Scrots, is my band’s name
-LB
Hear ~$125K for 1st year assoc (with 20% in equity bonus) and a 20% raise in base
Which is one of the greatest movies ever, and has a hilarious Eli Walch cameo!
+1
what did you make last year? you’re making 10-15% less. you’re welcome in advance, imbecile.
what did you make last year? you’re making 10-15% less. you’re welcome in advance, imbecile.
he has a twitter account now.
he has a twitter account now.
he has a twitter account now.
@ Guest – Bonuses were up 50% this year for Chase Card Services employees after recently-imposed debit card maximization fees resulted in 25% YOY top-line group for that unit.
Further, a cursory glance at his website pretty much yields a portrait of a solitary man watching/commenting on TV shows in a messy apartment that may or may not contain a chicken
http://www.alexlogic.com/
http://www.linkedin.com/in/alessandromachi
Regional emmy award, 2001. Pretending to understand finance from the ass-end of the san fernando valley: priceless.
the issue that most of you seem to ignore is that the component of base to bonus has changed significantly over the past 12-24 months for most banks. to simply say “year over year bonuses are down 15%” is misleading, particularly if base salaries are up 25-50%. all in comp is the real metric we are interested in.
Why in the world would any non Director level banker take ANY amount in “equity bonus”.
Fuck all, they might as well give you 1,000 NY lottery tickets instead of said “equity bonus”.
You actually have a higher expected value of ending up in the money depending on the prevailing jackpot!
Chance Monte Carlo Bachelier
I’ll return it for you.
I think realistically total comp is probably level year over year. Bonuses are down but salaries are up. Although I really don’t have any hard evidence, it’s all second hand information.
Well, it’s quitting time. Off to club seals in the Artic that have become trapped in the oil I spilled…
Well, it’s quitting time. Off to club seals in the Artic that have become trapped in the oil I spilled…
Well, it’s quitting time. Off to club seals in the Artic that have become trapped in the oil I spilled…
At the risk of being laughed at, I will share my actual JPMorgan #’s (non-NYC non-coverage, IB employee). 2009 base was $105,000. Bonus was ~$42,000. 2010 base was bumped to $120,000. Bonus decreased to ~$30,000. Overall comp about flat. Our particular group had a moderate down year, compared to 2009. I am a “middle of the road” performer. So there you go….digest.
those numbers dont make sense. what product/vertical are you in?
“Why in the world would any non Director level banker take ANY amount in “equity bonus”.”
I’ll take “they don’t give you a choice” for $500, Alex.
So, when they say ‘down 10-15% in bonus’, how do we adjust for the fact that salaries were raised? Can we please get total comp numbers, apples-to-apples?
Back off, Hoss.
asset management bonus +5-10%, plus increase in base.
So what’s the current base for 1st/2nd/3rd year Associate at JPM?
“Example, change terms on existing credit card accounts and be THE ONLY BANK to not allow opt out, then contaminate the new credit card reform bill act ….”
Cancel the fxcking card if you don’t like the new terms you fucking idiot.
exactly how does securitizing mortgages reduces local economy to shreds?
I got f**ked that’s all I know..
I was thinking the same thing. The actual securitizing has no effect.
Perhaps Alessandro is referring to flooding the local housing market with capital to the subprime market, artificially increasing the value of homes while creating mortgages that the banks can then securitize and sell. When the subprime crisis hits, then there are foreclosures and bankruptcies. But this situation requires more than I-bank participation.
While it was fun bashing on the retard who confused credit cards with investment banking, can any of the JPM guys chime in and give us actual numbers (ideally for associates) for base and bonus?
4TH YR ASC = ALL IN COMP FLAT + 20% DEFERRED EQUITY
ANY MORE FKING QUESTIONS????
’4th year associate’… promoted to ’5th year’? all caps, and, I presume, without having gone to Wharton? you win the first ‘Spirit of Alessandro’ award, sir.
Flat all in comp is correct. Everybody increased base last year, so bonus is lower only due to that. Surprisingly JPM raised base more than last yr. i.e. third yr associates last yr got 160k and incoming third yr associates will get 175k. Given they managed expectations down, the outcome is actually pleasant.
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More importantly can the bunnies still max your JP Morgan Investment Banking debit card?
More importantly can the bunnies still max your JP Morgan Investment Banking debit card?
Anyone known 1st year stub, 2nd year, and 3rd year analyst bonuses in S&T? Thanks.
2nd year associate, base from 125 to 150, bonus 200, 20% stock
2nd year associate, base from 125 to 150, bonus 200, 20% stock
any other data points in IB coverage on associate/vp base and bonuses?
any one got numbers on equity research and/or commodity research?
Any numbers on credit research 3-yr associate/1-yr VP level?
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