Whitney doesn’t have specific numbers backing up her now- famous prediction, she said in a Jan. 30 interview. “Quantifying is a guesstimate at this point,” she said. “I was giving an approximation of a magnitude that will bear out to be correct.” A copy of the 43-page report doesn’t mention sizable defaults amounting to hundreds of billions of dollars. A person who has seen a long addendum that profiles the 15 top states said that the longer portion doesn’t, either. “We are not calling for any specific defaults within the scope of this report,” the document says on page 42. An opening summary says there will “invariably” be local defaults, without elaborating. “A lot of this is, You know it, but can you prove it?” Whitney said over a breakfast of scrambled egg whites with a chicken-apple sausage, a side of salsa and peppermint tea at the Four Seasons Hotel in Midtown Manhattan. “There are fifth-derivative dimensions that I don’t think I need to spell out to my clients,” she said. [Bloomberg]

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Comments (72)

  1. Posted by Jacob Moore | February 1, 2011 at 3:11 PM

    Why is there a smiley face at the bottom of the Dealbreaker page?

  2. Posted by Jacob Moore | February 1, 2011 at 3:11 PM

    Why is there a smiley face at the bottom of the Dealbreaker page?

  3. Posted by Jacob Moore | February 1, 2011 at 3:11 PM

    Why is there a smiley face at the bottom of the Dealbreaker page?

  4. Posted by Jacob Moore | February 1, 2011 at 3:11 PM

    Why is there a smiley face at the bottom of the Dealbreaker page?

  5. Posted by Jacob Moore | February 1, 2011 at 3:11 PM

    Why is there a smiley face at the bottom of the Dealbreaker page?

  6. Posted by Jacob Moore | February 1, 2011 at 3:11 PM

    Why is there a smiley face at the bottom of the Dealbreaker page?

  7. Posted by Meredith | February 1, 2011 at 3:27 PM

    because you touch yourself.

  8. Posted by Meredith | February 1, 2011 at 3:27 PM

    because you touch yourself.

  9. Posted by Guest | February 1, 2011 at 3:28 PM

    5th derivative dimensions FTW

  10. Posted by Guest | February 1, 2011 at 3:28 PM

    5th derivative dimensions FTW

  11. Posted by Guest | February 1, 2011 at 3:28 PM

    great, now I’m starving.

  12. Posted by Guest | February 1, 2011 at 3:28 PM

    great, now I’m starving.

  13. Posted by Guest | February 1, 2011 at 3:28 PM

    great, now I’m starving.

  14. Posted by Anon | February 1, 2011 at 3:30 PM

    that breakfast sounds pretty gross.

  15. Posted by Anon | February 1, 2011 at 3:30 PM

    that breakfast sounds pretty gross.

  16. Posted by Anon | February 1, 2011 at 3:30 PM

    that breakfast sounds pretty gross.

  17. Posted by Anon | February 1, 2011 at 3:30 PM

    that breakfast sounds pretty gross.

  18. Posted by Anonymous | February 1, 2011 at 3:30 PM

    Wasn’t she originally claiming to have a 200 page report on all fifty states?

  19. Posted by Anonymous | February 1, 2011 at 3:30 PM

    Wasn’t she originally claiming to have a 200 page report on all fifty states?

  20. Posted by Anonymous | February 1, 2011 at 3:30 PM

    Wasn’t she originally claiming to have a 200 page report on all fifty states?

  21. Posted by Anonymous | February 1, 2011 at 3:30 PM

    Wasn’t she originally claiming to have a 200 page report on all fifty states?

  22. Posted by Anonymous | February 1, 2011 at 3:30 PM

    Wasn’t she originally claiming to have a 200 page report on all fifty states?

  23. Posted by Anonymous | February 1, 2011 at 3:38 PM

    “You know it but can’t prove it” — sounds like the astrology page of the Village Voice.

  24. Posted by Anonymous | February 1, 2011 at 3:38 PM

    “You know it but can’t prove it” — sounds like the astrology page of the Village Voice.

  25. Posted by Financial_Servicer | February 1, 2011 at 3:49 PM

    Those weren’t egg whites…

  26. Posted by Financial_Servicer | February 1, 2011 at 3:49 PM

    Those weren’t egg whites…

  27. Posted by Guest | February 1, 2011 at 3:49 PM

    So if you pull out estimates out of your ass, wouldn’t the number of entities ‘expected’ to default depend on the size of your ass ?

  28. Posted by Guest | February 1, 2011 at 3:49 PM

    So if you pull out estimates out of your ass, wouldn’t the number of entities ‘expected’ to default depend on the size of your ass ?

  29. Posted by Guest | February 1, 2011 at 3:49 PM

    So if you pull out estimates out of your ass, wouldn’t the number of entities ‘expected’ to default depend on the size of your ass ?

  30. Posted by Guest | February 1, 2011 at 3:51 PM

    There cannot be a God because if there were one, I could not believe that I was not She.

    -Meredith Nietzsche

  31. Posted by Guest | February 1, 2011 at 3:51 PM

    There cannot be a God because if there were one, I could not believe that I was not She.

    -Meredith Nietzsche

  32. Posted by Anonymous | February 1, 2011 at 3:54 PM

    Well my friend Sweet Meredith took me to the Four Seasons, right, and they don’t speak English there, so she got into a fight and she’s all, “Hey quit hasslin’ me cuz’ I don’t speak French” or whatever! And then the guy said something in Paris talk, and I’m like, “Just back off!” And they’re all, “Get out!” And we’re like, “Make me!” It was cool.

  33. Posted by Anonymous | February 1, 2011 at 3:54 PM

    Well my friend Sweet Meredith took me to the Four Seasons, right, and they don’t speak English there, so she got into a fight and she’s all, “Hey quit hasslin’ me cuz’ I don’t speak French” or whatever! And then the guy said something in Paris talk, and I’m like, “Just back off!” And they’re all, “Get out!” And we’re like, “Make me!” It was cool.

  34. Posted by Guest | February 1, 2011 at 3:54 PM

    I think she may be referencing the 60′s music group here

  35. Posted by Guest | February 1, 2011 at 3:54 PM

    I think she may be referencing the 60′s music group here

  36. Posted by Guest | February 1, 2011 at 3:59 PM

    Cute breakfast choices……..bitch.

    - A. Lebenthal

  37. Posted by Guest | February 1, 2011 at 3:59 PM

    Cute breakfast choices……..bitch.

    - A. Lebenthal

  38. Posted by Anal_yst | February 1, 2011 at 4:04 PM

    Hey.

  39. Posted by Guest | February 1, 2011 at 4:08 PM

    That was a great movie, the ending was totally impossible to predict.

  40. Posted by Guest | February 1, 2011 at 4:09 PM

    Meredith,

    Thanks. We are now able to go back to the hedge funds with a definition of what does not constitute and “expert network.”

    Regards,
    Mary S.

  41. Posted by Anonymous | February 1, 2011 at 4:10 PM

    “An opening summary says there will “invariably” be local defaults”

    the sun will come up tomorrrow, and you can print that. boom done!

  42. Posted by Anonymous | February 1, 2011 at 4:10 PM

    “An opening summary says there will “invariably” be local defaults”

    the sun will come up tomorrrow, and you can print that. boom done!

  43. Posted by Anonymous | February 1, 2011 at 4:10 PM

    “An opening summary says there will “invariably” be local defaults”

    the sun will come up tomorrrow, and you can print that. boom done!

  44. Posted by Guesst | February 1, 2011 at 4:11 PM

    Footnote on page 200: There may or may not be actual defaults but for the purposes of my short trade and 60 minutes pump against munis, it worked perfectly.

  45. Posted by Guesst | February 1, 2011 at 4:11 PM

    Footnote on page 200: There may or may not be actual defaults but for the purposes of my short trade and 60 minutes pump against munis, it worked perfectly.

  46. Posted by Guesst | February 1, 2011 at 4:11 PM

    Footnote on page 200: There may or may not be actual defaults but for the purposes of my short trade and 60 minutes pump against munis, it worked perfectly.

  47. Posted by AIGQ | February 1, 2011 at 4:13 PM

    We agree dependent upon the “rho” you re using at the time.

    -AIG Quant

  48. Posted by Bulimic | February 1, 2011 at 4:14 PM

    what were they? full fat eggs?

  49. Posted by Guest | February 1, 2011 at 4:17 PM

    I am not going to bend down and take a fifth dimension derivative!

    -J. Dimon

  50. Posted by Guest | February 1, 2011 at 4:22 PM

    genius, no?

  51. Posted by Anonymous | February 1, 2011 at 4:26 PM

    Well that would explain the rather large numbers she was throwing around, now, wouldn’t it?

  52. Posted by Anonymous | February 1, 2011 at 4:27 PM

    “Peppermint tea”

    How cute.

  53. Posted by Guest | February 1, 2011 at 4:35 PM

    2 words: Reputational Risk.

    Let’s hope she regains some after that girl-on-girl event she has going with Alex L. Meredith- I recommend you propose a WWF venue. That way your better half can give you some tips on how to fall.

  54. Posted by Motivated Guest | February 1, 2011 at 4:41 PM

    Please examine your motives.

  55. Posted by Guest | February 1, 2011 at 4:59 PM

    i’m fine with her numbers, but I have seen her and no way she eats egg whites

  56. Posted by Pfluger the Barbarian | February 1, 2011 at 5:15 PM

    Speaking of fifth dimension derivatives, I still have some CDO^5s of ’99 priced at a discount, yielding 9.5%. Unlike all these highly risky State GO bonds, counties and school districts that will be defaulting left and right, my CDOs are bullet proof. I will be applying for a Whitney rating on these bonds, and I am confident that her insightful analysis will conclude they are AAA.

  57. Posted by Financial_Servicer | February 1, 2011 at 5:18 PM

    Well it’s hard to say no when you ask so nicely.

  58. Posted by Guest | February 1, 2011 at 5:39 PM

    Bess, can we get a photoshop of Meredith circa today with John Paulson circa 1985 so we can compare the Member’s Only jacket glam shots?

  59. Posted by Guest | February 1, 2011 at 5:52 PM

    I see what you did there…

  60. Posted by Millyprop | February 1, 2011 at 6:24 PM

    I’m with you. I dated a gynecologist and “eggwhites” has a totally different meaning in that sector.

  61. Posted by Guest | February 1, 2011 at 7:31 PM

    And it would depend on whether those were numbers that you are pulling out.

  62. Posted by trojan | February 1, 2011 at 7:43 PM

    i think our IT guys call that garbage in as s, garbage out as s

  63. Posted by Jimboleo | February 1, 2011 at 7:59 PM

    How do you know that? Are you a PhD?

    -Jim S

  64. Posted by Nerdy Trader | February 1, 2011 at 8:01 PM

    My new line: “I’m a fifth dimension derivative trader…….”

  65. Posted by Koolaidisfun | February 1, 2011 at 8:04 PM

    Meredith Whitney is the Sarah Palin of analysts.

    -not my quote, but a BSD at a major firm

  66. Posted by Koolaidisfun | February 1, 2011 at 8:04 PM

    Meredith Whitney is the Sarah Palin of analysts.

    -not my quote, but a BSD at a major firm

  67. Posted by Koolaidisfun | February 1, 2011 at 8:04 PM

    Meredith Whitney is the Sarah Palin of analysts.

    -not my quote, but a BSD at a major firm

  68. Posted by Anonymous | February 1, 2011 at 10:20 PM

    At least Sarah Palin is attractive. Meredith? Not so much. She’s less a “butterface” than she is a “Not her face either”

  69. Posted by Jimmy | February 1, 2011 at 10:27 PM

    I am pretty sure that is the executive summary, and it was given to a lot of people for free, shoddy reporting. The 600 page report is alleged to cost 100k, but it is, no doubt, a bargain at any price.

  70. Posted by Jimmy | February 1, 2011 at 10:27 PM

    I am pretty sure that is the executive summary, and it was given to a lot of people for free, shoddy reporting. The 600 page report is alleged to cost 100k, but it is, no doubt, a bargain at any price.

  71. Posted by Jimmy | February 1, 2011 at 10:32 PM

    There seemingly no money on the short side of munis save some closed end funds. Just a mass exodus frorm retail mutual fund money, and a manish woman trying to market an overpriced report and her firm.

  72. Posted by 100kMuniReporter | February 2, 2011 at 12:00 AM

    I see what you did there.

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