If you’ve been in the market 36,000 square feet of space- to use in its current form as a trading floor, to create the world’s biggest CandyLand board, or to play a game of Twister with 10,000 people–, you may be in luck in the not completely distant future.

“From a senior UBS’er– they are thinking of moving the whole shebang back to NY. They apparently don’t own the Stamford building anymore, they have space in NYC, higher-ups feel they might be missing business (or who knows, maybe the highest-ups live in NYC and this is an excuse to stop the reverse-commute!) and are having trouble recruiting talent because of the commute (rather than, say, their overall situation).”

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Comments (94)

  1. Posted by GGGuest | February 7, 2011 at 4:57 PM

    definitely the commute that’s hurting recruiting. i mean those damn hedge funds out there get shit talent.

  2. Posted by ExtraOrdinaryPopularDelusions | February 7, 2011 at 4:59 PM

    Apparently UBS has run out of ways to make it move.

  3. Posted by Doode | February 7, 2011 at 5:00 PM

    RBS across the street is stealing all the best and brightest

  4. Posted by Doode | February 7, 2011 at 5:00 PM

    RBS across the street is stealing all the best and brightest

  5. Posted by Doode | February 7, 2011 at 5:00 PM

    RBS across the street is stealing all the best and brightest

  6. Posted by Doode | February 7, 2011 at 5:00 PM

    RBS across the street is stealing all the best and brightest

  7. Posted by Doode | February 7, 2011 at 5:00 PM

    RBS across the street is stealing all the best and brightest

  8. Posted by Really? | February 7, 2011 at 5:08 PM

    Using the words “RBS” and “best and brightest” in the same sentence must mean you are new to the business.

  9. Posted by trojan | February 7, 2011 at 5:08 PM

    The commute is fluid.

  10. Posted by GGGuest | February 7, 2011 at 5:12 PM

    I think that was sarcasm.

  11. Posted by Guest | February 7, 2011 at 5:12 PM

    Working at UBS is the NKI?

    Oh wait no nvm, that will never happen.

  12. Posted by Boris the Bullet Dodger | February 7, 2011 at 5:14 PM

    they have a huge pool of local talent in Stamford!

  13. Posted by Indeed | February 7, 2011 at 5:21 PM

    Why don’t they double down their recruiting efforts at the Stamford Graduate School of Business?

    - Analyst from RBS Global Banking & Markets

  14. Posted by Anonymous | February 7, 2011 at 5:22 PM

    Where would they go in New York? The ex-Merrill space in the WFC? No way they could fit everyone into the old PaineWebber building at 1285 6th.

  15. Posted by Anonymous | February 7, 2011 at 5:22 PM

    Where would they go in New York? The ex-Merrill space in the WFC? No way they could fit everyone into the old PaineWebber building at 1285 6th.

  16. Posted by Guest | February 7, 2011 at 5:24 PM

    were really not able to get that it’s the commute + the shit pay that hurts recruiting without it being expressly spelled out for you?

  17. Posted by Guest | February 7, 2011 at 5:24 PM

    were really not able to get that it’s the commute + the shit pay that hurts recruiting without it being expressly spelled out for you?

  18. Posted by Guest | February 7, 2011 at 5:25 PM

    give up on life.

  19. Posted by Guest | February 7, 2011 at 5:25 PM

    give up on life.

  20. Posted by Guest | February 7, 2011 at 5:25 PM

    not getting the obvious sarcasm must mean you are a retard.

  21. Posted by Guest | February 7, 2011 at 5:25 PM

    not getting the obvious sarcasm must mean you are a retard.

  22. Posted by Qqqqqqqqqqqq | February 7, 2011 at 5:27 PM

    I see what you did there
    ~ Lleland Jr.

  23. Posted by Covey 01 | February 7, 2011 at 5:28 PM

    What would happen to the UBS trading hall?

  24. Posted by GorillaTrader | February 7, 2011 at 5:29 PM

    UBS is moving in with its parents. They will now have a trading floor in the basement of a duplex.

  25. Posted by Guest | February 7, 2011 at 5:31 PM

    +1

  26. Posted by Flushed Away | February 7, 2011 at 5:37 PM

    Moving a turd a couple of hours away will not change the fact that it is still a turd.

  27. Posted by Flushed Away | February 7, 2011 at 5:37 PM

    Moving a turd a couple of hours away will not change the fact that it is still a turd.

  28. Posted by Flushed Away | February 7, 2011 at 5:37 PM

    Moving a turd a couple of hours away will not change the fact that it is still a turd.

  29. Posted by Flushed Away | February 7, 2011 at 5:37 PM

    Moving a turd a couple of hours away will not change the fact that it is still a turd.

  30. Posted by Guest | February 7, 2011 at 5:43 PM

    Random Asian mall.

  31. Posted by Guest | February 7, 2011 at 5:58 PM

    Heard they are moving to the old Member’s Only warehouse.

    -Derek Zoolander, Retail sector analyst

  32. Posted by Guest | February 7, 2011 at 5:58 PM

    Heard they are moving to the old Member’s Only warehouse.

    -Derek Zoolander, Retail sector analyst

  33. Posted by Guest | February 7, 2011 at 6:06 PM

    What is this?!?! A trading floor for ants?!?!

    -D. Zoolander

  34. Posted by Guest | February 7, 2011 at 6:07 PM

    Hedge funds pay hedge fund rates. To work at what is pretty much a second tier IB… and to have to live north of the city and probably in CT to do so… not ideal. I recently took a ride up there from downtown Manhattan… taking the 4/5 to grand central then hopping on a train, not so fun.

  35. Posted by Guestosaurus | February 7, 2011 at 6:14 PM

    I wouldn’t want to rent the place, it’s a mess – littered with doughnuts.

  36. Posted by Guestosaurus | February 7, 2011 at 6:14 PM

    I wouldn’t want to rent the place, it’s a mess – littered with doughnuts.

  37. Posted by Guest | February 7, 2011 at 6:15 PM

    someone please wake up the UBS Sucks guy and tell him that the monday after the superbowl is not, in fact, a holiday.

  38. Posted by Guest | February 7, 2011 at 6:15 PM

    someone please wake up the UBS Sucks guy and tell him that the monday after the superbowl is not, in fact, a holiday.

  39. Posted by Jason STATHAM. | February 7, 2011 at 6:23 PM

    Next move will be to take over the little shack on the corner where the little mini-convenience store resides…MOOOVIN’ on UP!!

  40. Posted by Jason STATHAM. | February 7, 2011 at 6:23 PM

    Next move will be to take over the little shack on the corner where the little mini-convenience store resides…MOOOVIN’ on UP!!

  41. Posted by Jason STATHAM. | February 7, 2011 at 6:23 PM

    Next move will be to take over the little shack on the corner where the little mini-convenience store resides…MOOOVIN’ on UP!!

  42. Posted by GorillaTrader | February 7, 2011 at 6:24 PM

    They should turn UBS into a huge pool for Stamford!

  43. Posted by Jason STATHAM. | February 7, 2011 at 6:24 PM

    Let’s be honest…life is better without that dude trolling all the UBS posts.

  44. Posted by Guest | February 7, 2011 at 6:27 PM

    You mean UBS doesn’t suck? I was lied to? How can I ever trust bankers again?

    - newb

  45. Posted by O'Doyle Rules | February 7, 2011 at 6:30 PM

    UBS SUCKS

  46. Posted by Seaman Bodine | February 7, 2011 at 6:36 PM

    This rumor is totally untrue. UBS is consolidating in Weehawken, in order to appease the windows administrators.

  47. Posted by Battery Park City resident | February 7, 2011 at 6:36 PM

    oh NO fuck NO. We have enough from Goldman Sucks

  48. Posted by Boris the Bullet Dodger | February 7, 2011 at 6:37 PM

    thanks for doing the Gods work!

  49. Posted by UBS_Anal | February 7, 2011 at 6:51 PM

    We are moving our operations to Lebanon, KS so that we can really feel the heartbeat of America.
    -UBS Retail Analyst

  50. Posted by Indeed | February 7, 2011 at 6:56 PM

    -1.

    Actually make that -15.

  51. Posted by GGGuest | February 7, 2011 at 7:04 PM

    apparently sarcasm is a lost art on DB.

  52. Posted by Peanuts | February 7, 2011 at 7:05 PM

    If they move to Detroit, they might be able to get some real talent to do an ad for them.

  53. Posted by Peanuts | February 7, 2011 at 7:05 PM

    If they move to Detroit, they might be able to get some real talent to do an ad for them.

  54. Posted by GGGuest | February 7, 2011 at 7:06 PM

    Weehawken is awesome! All of the inconvenience of a NJ commute, with none of the amenities of Jersey City…BRILLIANT!

  55. Posted by Guest | February 7, 2011 at 7:07 PM

    excellent backpedaling from your first comment.

  56. Posted by GGGuest | February 7, 2011 at 7:19 PM

    are you retarded or just “special”

  57. Posted by Ex SHWD Balla | February 7, 2011 at 7:20 PM

    Rosie Radigan’s is an amenity?

  58. Posted by Guest | February 7, 2011 at 7:26 PM

    you wrote “definitely the commute that’s hurting recruiting. i mean those damn hedge funds out there get shit talent. ”

    ie your sarcasm was directed to the notion that being out in CT would not be an impediment to attracting talent (because, and here’s where the sarcasm comes in, hf’s DON’T ACTUALLY have a problem attracting talent). you were called out on the fact that source quoted didn’t actually need to say that it’s tough to attract talent to CT “when you’re also paying them shit.” but please. continue telling us how your sarcasm was ‘lost’ on everyone.

  59. Posted by Anonymous | February 7, 2011 at 7:30 PM

    Eminem will drive them around town in his Chrysler 200

  60. Posted by Amherst '08 | February 7, 2011 at 7:33 PM

    Wait Jersey City has amenities?

    -chic who changed jobs when her group got moved to jersey city

  61. Posted by N_R | February 7, 2011 at 7:35 PM

    All kidding aside, I always wondered: what does it say to your commitment to being competitive, when you don’t even have the confidence to believe you can cover the cost of your own office space in Manhattan? Did they somehow think they would be a magnet out there in Stamford, drawing all the other Wall Street firms out that way?

  62. Posted by Jerry Jones | February 7, 2011 at 7:35 PM

    I have spot in Dallas that won’t be in use over the next several years if you want it.

  63. Posted by handsome man | February 7, 2011 at 7:37 PM

    Shumway had to shut down b/c only morons stuck around, resulting in mediocre returns.

    Greenwich is full of stupid juice.

  64. Posted by Spanishmoon | February 7, 2011 at 7:43 PM

    The trading floor will be converted into the new Metro-North railcar repair shop. Fired traders will be given re-training tax credits to learn welding and metallurgy.

    Gov. Dan Malloy

  65. Posted by Spanishmoon | February 7, 2011 at 7:43 PM

    The trading floor will be converted into the new Metro-North railcar repair shop. Fired traders will be given re-training tax credits to learn welding and metallurgy.

    Gov. Dan Malloy

  66. Posted by CC Pounder | February 7, 2011 at 7:48 PM

    UBS want to make some fuck, Berserker!

  67. Posted by GGGuest | February 7, 2011 at 7:57 PM

    I’m going to spell out what I was saying…if you still think i’m an idiot fair enough.

    UBS Higher Ups think the location is hurting their recruiting…it isn’t…what they pay and how they run their company is what is hurting their recruiting.

    Hedge Funds don’t have a problem because they pay a lot of money, and run their businesses better.

    My comment was directed at the idiocy/narcissism of the UBS higher ups thinking that it’s the commute along that’s hurting their recruiting, rather than their general situation (also stated by the source in his parenthetical comments).

    So if you would like to call me an idiot for implying the same thing that the source said, that’s fine, because that’s what I did…HOWEVER, the reply to my original comment that I was responding to…(“were really not able to get that it’s the commute + the shit pay that hurts recruiting without it being expressly spelled out for you?”) I get that the shit pay is what makes it hard, that is why Hedge Funds (which DO have good talent), don’t have a problem…see above.

  68. Posted by DJ Scrambles | February 7, 2011 at 7:59 PM

    How will this affect Rebellion Research? They already occupy that property.

  69. Posted by Guest | February 7, 2011 at 7:59 PM

    Detroit landlords won’t take UBS stock as payment… unlike UBS employees.

  70. Posted by Guest | February 7, 2011 at 8:00 PM

    Rosie’s closed. It was a too early and did not fit demographic, indian go home straight to the arrangement wife’s

    – Munshi Jaypalakarcharkaran in IT

  71. Posted by TBG | February 7, 2011 at 8:16 PM

    Think Zambonis, only with choreography and elegance, oh, and fleece.

  72. Posted by Josef | February 7, 2011 at 8:27 PM

    In Soviet Russia, UBS suck too!

  73. Posted by GGGuest | February 7, 2011 at 9:24 PM

    amenities is used very loosely…you can eat, get there via train, and be miserable. As opposed to go to the same cafeteria (if they even have one), take a bus, and be suicidal in weehawken.

  74. Posted by GGGuest | February 7, 2011 at 9:24 PM

    amenities is used very loosely…you can eat, get there via train, and be miserable. As opposed to go to the same cafeteria (if they even have one), take a bus, and be suicidal in weehawken.

  75. Posted by GGGuest | February 7, 2011 at 9:24 PM

    amenities is used very loosely…you can eat, get there via train, and be miserable. As opposed to go to the same cafeteria (if they even have one), take a bus, and be suicidal in weehawken.

  76. Posted by GGGuest | February 7, 2011 at 9:24 PM

    amenities is used very loosely…you can eat, get there via train, and be miserable. As opposed to go to the same cafeteria (if they even have one), take a bus, and be suicidal in weehawken.

  77. Posted by GGGuest | February 7, 2011 at 9:24 PM

    amenities is used very loosely…you can eat, get there via train, and be miserable. As opposed to go to the same cafeteria (if they even have one), take a bus, and be suicidal in weehawken.

  78. Posted by GGGuest | February 7, 2011 at 9:24 PM

    amenities is used very loosely…you can eat, get there via train, and be miserable. As opposed to go to the same cafeteria (if they even have one), take a bus, and be suicidal in weehawken.

  79. Posted by Davidfhowell | February 7, 2011 at 10:37 PM

    obiously an asian

  80. Posted by Anonymous | February 7, 2011 at 10:42 PM

    Expanded Beamers.

  81. Posted by Anonymous | February 7, 2011 at 10:42 PM

    Expanded Beamers.

  82. Posted by Anonymous | February 7, 2011 at 10:43 PM

    Actually it’s a ferry and/or the light rail… and it is attached to a shopping mall (not kidding)

  83. Posted by Anonymous | February 7, 2011 at 10:43 PM

    Actually it’s a ferry and/or the light rail… and it is attached to a shopping mall (not kidding)

  84. Posted by Anonymous | February 7, 2011 at 10:46 PM

    They’ve been out there forever– Swiss Bank built the original building in something like 1992, way before they decided to try to be a bulge-bracked I-bank and brokerage house.

  85. Posted by Jimmy | February 7, 2011 at 11:34 PM

    Has anyone else noticed no matter how many times you play Candyland, you never get any better?

  86. Posted by Benichipopkin | February 8, 2011 at 1:10 AM

    At UBS Stamford, most of the guys who live in the city are those fresh out of college rooming with 3 other recent grads in Hell’s Kitchen or Jersey City. There are of course some people with spouses who work in the city and so they live in the city…most of the senior and mid level managers I know live in Greenwich, Darien, Wilton, Westport, Westchester or even Stamford.

    So any move will uproot a ton of people…doubt it’s going to happen. I do know that the 1285 and 299 buildings could squeeze in all the traders and risk guys leaving the wheehawken and JC offices with room for ops, it and controllers.

    All the big guns wolf, etc live nearer to stamford than NYC.

  87. Posted by Benichio | February 8, 2011 at 1:12 AM

    That’s where UBS’ers go to get 2 level promotions…

  88. Posted by Train Hobbyist | February 8, 2011 at 4:05 AM

    The PATH is a subway / heavy rail, not light rail.

  89. Posted by Guest | February 8, 2011 at 4:08 AM

    Smart move – usually it is the backoffice jobs that are placed in JC…

  90. Posted by Steve Richards | February 8, 2011 at 4:38 AM

    they are moving, the fixed income guys (on guarantees) have been bitching about it for a year

  91. Posted by Anonymous | February 8, 2011 at 2:49 PM

    PATH doesn’t go to Weehawken; you have to take PATH to Hoboken Terminal and change for the trolley a/k/a Hudson-Bergen Light Rail: http://www.njtransit.com/pdf/LightRail/sf_lr_hblr_map.pdf
    The old PWJ backoffice location is truly in an awful location.

  92. Posted by UBBBBBS! | February 8, 2011 at 4:40 PM

    I worked there for 4 months, did the reverse commute and put on 15 pounds. Never been more miserable in my life.

    There’s a new raft of management out there – ex-Morgan Stanley / Deutsche Bank guys who live in NYC and hate the commute. They’ve got enough power to move chunks of sales & trading but the middle / back office functions would probably stay.

    And despite his repeated sightings with the Obama, most everyone internally thinks Robert Wolf is a f–king joke who insists on parking his car in front of the building like a Class A douschebag.

  93. Posted by Train Hobbyist | February 8, 2011 at 8:41 PM

    The statement was about Jersey City, not Weehawken…

  94. Posted by Train Hobbyist | February 8, 2011 at 8:41 PM

    The statement was about Jersey City, not Weehawken…

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