As you may have noticed, UBS has been going through some what of a rough patch. Profits are not what they once were, the IRS won’t let them help people evade taxes anymore and management has had a very difficult time convincing people not to quit, with a decent amount of senior departures occurring in the last several months. The deflections for the most part have to do with people wanting to get paid (there hasn’t been a lot of that in a while at UBS, though some staff recently received raises and higher-ups have pinky-sworn future pay will be competitive with other firms), but the bank is thinking the problem lies less with compensation and more with geography. Specifically, Stamford, CT, where the largest trading floor in the world is located. As we have reported, the equities team will be moving to New York later this summer and after casually mulling over the idea, management is now seriously considering moving the whole shebang, which they believe will solve all problems.

It turns out that a suburban location has become a liability in recruiting the best and brightest young bankers, who want to live in Manhattan or Brooklyn, not in Stamford, Conn., which is about 35 miles northeast of Midtown. The firm has also discovered that it would be better to be closer to major clients in New York City. As a result, UBS is seriously considering a reverse migration that would bring its investment banking division and up to 2,000 bankers and traders back to Wall Street and a new skyscraper at the rebuilt World Trade Center, according to real estate executives and city officials.

“They just can’t hire the bankers and traders they need,” said one landlord who has spoken with UBS but requested anonymity so as not to alienate a potential tenant.

Talks have been held with developer Larry Silverstein about a possible deal at 3 World Trade Center, which conveniently has 5 trading floors located in “Tower 3,” and while a move wouldn’t happen until 2015, Connecticut officials are extremely worried about the idea of losing the Swiss bank and not just because it’d mean being left alone with RBS. The Mayor of Stamford, Michael Pavia told the Times he and Governor Dannel P. Malloy “are committed to keeping UBS here.” As the bank seems to believe moving to New York will be a cure-all for recent woes and result in the need to beat financial services employees from every firm off with a stick as the vie for positions, it will be a tough sell. The ladies of Beamers can only do so much to entice people to stay, meaning someone ought to seriously start considering making the decriminalization of (small amounts of) marijuana a selling point. Maybe even suggest the lower right quadrant of the trading floor will be converted to a grow-house. Produce some videos starring Ossie Gruebel making love to a bag of weed. Etc. It might get people to stay *and* having employees trade while their minds are expanded could actually help the bottom line.

UBS May Move Back To Manhattan From Stamford [NYT]

Comments (71)

  1. Posted by ahahah | June 8, 2011 at 4:26 PM

    That’s the sound of Stamford Real Estate getting DESTROYED!!!!!

  2. Posted by ahahah | June 8, 2011 at 4:26 PM

    That’s the sound of Stamford Real Estate getting DESTROYED!!!!!

  3. Posted by Guest | June 8, 2011 at 4:28 PM

    settle the fuck down.

  4. Posted by Guest | June 8, 2011 at 4:28 PM

    settle the fuck down.

  5. Posted by Guest | June 8, 2011 at 4:33 PM

    While the grow-your-own bonus plan is promising, hopefully UBS will realize that allowing their employees to act out their Sex And The City/Gossip Girl fantasies will not help employee retention.

  6. Posted by Guest | June 8, 2011 at 4:33 PM

    While the grow-your-own bonus plan is promising, hopefully UBS will realize that allowing their employees to act out their Sex And The City/Gossip Girl fantasies will not help employee retention.

  7. Posted by Put_Option | June 8, 2011 at 4:38 PM

    Bring back unlimited expense accounts, make coke legal, and quit being a bro-hater. Then maybe I’ll consider Stamford instead of Manhattan.

    - 2011 junior trader hopeful 

  8. Posted by Put_Option | June 8, 2011 at 4:38 PM

    Bring back unlimited expense accounts, make coke legal, and quit being a bro-hater. Then maybe I’ll consider Stamford instead of Manhattan.

    - 2011 junior trader hopeful 

  9. Posted by Guesticles | June 8, 2011 at 4:45 PM

    Do they have enough parking around the WTC?  Where will I park my Accord?

    - UBS MD

  10. Posted by Guesticles | June 8, 2011 at 4:45 PM

    Do they have enough parking around the WTC?  Where will I park my Accord?

    - UBS MD

  11. Posted by Guest | June 8, 2011 at 4:45 PM

    I also want cookies.

  12. Posted by Guest | June 8, 2011 at 4:45 PM

    I also want cookies.

  13. Posted by Put_Option | June 8, 2011 at 4:50 PM

    You’ll get nothing and like it

    - J. Smails 

  14. Posted by Put_Option | June 8, 2011 at 4:50 PM

    You’ll get nothing and like it

    - J. Smails 

  15. Posted by Not SI Edition | June 8, 2011 at 4:52 PM

    Damn, you were able to get an Accord.  You’re the BSD.
    -UBS Civic Driving MD

  16. Posted by Not SI Edition | June 8, 2011 at 4:52 PM

    Damn, you were able to get an Accord.  You’re the BSD.
    -UBS Civic Driving MD

  17. Posted by Not SI Edition | June 8, 2011 at 4:52 PM

    Damn, you were able to get an Accord.  You’re the BSD.
    -UBS Civic Driving MD

  18. Posted by Not SI Edition | June 8, 2011 at 4:52 PM

    Damn, you were able to get an Accord.  You’re the BSD.
    -UBS Civic Driving MD

  19. Posted by AmericanBandersnatch | June 8, 2011 at 4:53 PM

    As Deke Slayton said:

    I’m not saying anything new here. I’m just saying the same things that need to be said again and again with fierce conviction. And that thing is that “UBS Sucks”.

  20. Posted by AmericanBandersnatch | June 8, 2011 at 4:53 PM

    As Deke Slayton said:

    I’m not saying anything new here. I’m just saying the same things that need to be said again and again with fierce conviction. And that thing is that “UBS Sucks”.

  21. Posted by Guest | June 8, 2011 at 4:54 PM

    Bess, what is that a picture of?
     
    -Guy who realizes he may be missing something.

  22. Posted by Guest | June 8, 2011 at 4:54 PM

    Bess, what is that a picture of?
     
    -Guy who realizes he may be missing something.

  23. Posted by Guest | June 8, 2011 at 4:55 PM

    it was a civic. jesus fucking christ.

  24. Posted by Not SI Edition | June 8, 2011 at 4:59 PM

    FUUUUUUCK!

  25. Posted by Not SI Edition | June 8, 2011 at 4:59 PM

    FUUUUUUCK!

  26. Posted by Guest | June 8, 2011 at 5:11 PM

    It appears to be Hostas… http://www.americanhostasociety.org/images/Mixed%20Hosta%20Display.jpg

    -Guy who is also missing something

  27. Posted by Guest | June 8, 2011 at 5:11 PM

    It appears to be Hostas… http://www.americanhostasociety.org/images/Mixed%20Hosta%20Display.jpg

    -Guy who is also missing something

  28. Posted by Idk | June 8, 2011 at 5:15 PM

    I drive a cavalier…it’s red.

  29. Posted by Idk | June 8, 2011 at 5:15 PM

    I drive a cavalier…it’s red.

  30. Posted by LEH Quant | June 8, 2011 at 5:15 PM

    It’s a hedge, you fucking moron. UBS is a hedge fund. Do you get it now?

    -LEH Quant

  31. Posted by 2009 Nostalgia | June 8, 2011 at 5:19 PM

    It’s an EGRET, you stupid bitch! WHAT THE FUCK.

  32. Posted by worth79 | June 8, 2011 at 5:23 PM

    if they only came to this decision back in ’98, when i decided to leave because, well, waking up at 3 for the reverse commute just wasn’t making me a better person.

  33. Posted by Guest | June 8, 2011 at 5:25 PM

    BS. If UBS were a hedge fund, it would already be toast. Not even a long lock-up or gates could’ve saved those geniuses.

  34. Posted by Guest | June 8, 2011 at 5:26 PM

    BS – Google is about the same distance from San Francisco as UBS from Manhattan; they aren’t losing out (or you don’t hear about it) because of it.

    If you’re still employed, in this environment, suck it up.  Or try your luck in NYC and let someone who wants the job in CT take it.

  35. Posted by Your Real Estate Agent | June 8, 2011 at 5:29 PM

    If these little banker shits don’t “stage” their houses, I won’t bother to market them.  It’s a waste of my valuable time in this market to try to sell a house that isn’t “staged”.  I want pianos, flatscreens, granite counter tops, paint everything white and keep the bathroom as bare as possible, never leave your personal items in view when showing your home. In fact, depersonalizing your whole property is a powerful selling tip. Buyers will be more attracted to your house when they can imagine themselves living there. To make your house look lived-in without looking like anyone actually lives there, pack away into storage:

    All family photos
    Holiday souvenirs
    Trophies & certificates
    Collectible items
    Children’s artwork
    Home Gyms that haven’t been used in months”UBS sucks” coffee cupsAny framed awards or degreesMugshotsFlame ThrowersFire retardant underwearT-shirts with “I shorted your house!” on them.Anything with a Texas A&M reference.Dried turdsBloodstainsAny containers with money in them or multiple passports

    Any copies of “Das Boot”Pia Zadora references
    Pawnbroker balls  

  36. Posted by Guest | June 8, 2011 at 5:30 PM

    You didn’t finish your sentence.

  37. Posted by Guest | June 8, 2011 at 5:30 PM

    Just picked up a new Ford Fiesta on lease. Who’s the BSD now that I’m pushing the same whip as a MLB Hall of Famer?

     - UBS MD

  38. Posted by Guest | June 8, 2011 at 5:32 PM

    Have you ever been to New York? The leisurely reverse commute out of SF isn’t quite the same…

     - MIT Traffic Engineering Genius

  39. Posted by Hahahah | June 8, 2011 at 5:39 PM

    Yes, it’s your location that’s hurting recruiting

  40. Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2011 at 5:42 PM

    Spoken like a true COO.

  41. Posted by Metro North conductor | June 8, 2011 at 5:53 PM

    going to be a LOOONNNNGGG comute from  Newton , Ridgefield  , Fairfield , Trumbull ….. ” All aboard …”

  42. Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2011 at 5:55 PM

    So by going from a semi-accessible location in suburban CT to a semi-accessible location in Lower Manhattan you’re going to boost recruiting? Hahahahahahahaha

    -Guy who realizes its easier to get to Stamford than to the WTC from 86th/Lex.

  43. Posted by Guest | June 8, 2011 at 5:57 PM

    Where can I find the aforementioned “UBS Sucks” coffee mug? Amazon?

  44. Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2011 at 5:57 PM

    You mean you don’t think people will enjoy the 15 min drive + 85 minute train ride + 25 minutes on the #4?

  45. Posted by Kenny Fuckin Powers | June 8, 2011 at 6:08 PM

    All this will do is piss off the majority of their mid-level and up employees who actually want to live in CT and dont feel like commuting to Jew York every day.

  46. Posted by Landey | June 8, 2011 at 6:14 PM

    It’s basil. Just clip off a few leaves, rinse them, and place atop your bruschetta before serving.

  47. Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2011 at 6:19 PM

    But they are now in much closer proximity to targeted exit ops.

    -Guy who rather take a long lunch than burn a day of PTO to interview.

  48. Posted by Bylo Sellhigh | June 8, 2011 at 6:28 PM

    Idiot, the only thing that turns into toast is wheat, after being prpared as bread and being “toasted” via any one of many methods.  Wheat is not a hedge.  It is a “crop”.

    -AIG Commodities Desk

  49. Posted by Guest | June 8, 2011 at 6:46 PM

    yep.

    -MD who doesn’t want to live in a 3 bedroom box with this wife and 2 kids

  50. Posted by Guest | June 8, 2011 at 6:50 PM

    Goodwill + Sharpie. No budget for eBay purchases right now.

  51. Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2011 at 6:59 PM

    This is true.

  52. Posted by D. Noonan | June 8, 2011 at 6:59 PM

    Actually, it’s E. Smails.  His first name was Elihu.

  53. Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2011 at 6:59 PM

    Short Beamers, long Pink Pussycat?

  54. Posted by Lol | June 8, 2011 at 7:13 PM

    Back to the city woooo! I’m ready to ball the fuck out!

    - UBS trader who will sublease a “loft-like” studio in Bushwick

  55. Posted by trojan | June 8, 2011 at 7:47 PM

    Christ if the B52′s playing Alive @ 5 can’t make you reconsider, nothing will

  56. Posted by Snoop | June 8, 2011 at 8:06 PM

    Damn! If that’s as big as the weed grows, the soil is for shit and I’d be movin my ass out of there too Beeeaaattttchhhh. .  

  57. Posted by Guest | June 8, 2011 at 8:26 PM

    I wear “I Love Stamford” shirts whole day long, what about wearing it in NYC ?UBS Trader

  58. Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2011 at 8:45 PM

    I first thought basil but I think you’ll find it’s a variegated euonymus, perhaps Chollipo or Silver King.

    xoxo

  59. Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2011 at 8:51 PM

    Perma darling: 86th and Lex IS pretty much Stamford.

    Gal who believes anything above 14th street is upstate

  60. Posted by Eye <3 PMCO | June 8, 2011 at 9:07 PM

    You had me at “vagina”.

  61. Posted by Guest | June 8, 2011 at 9:11 PM

    Take a lap

  62. Posted by Put_Option | June 8, 2011 at 9:40 PM

    Is your first name Douche? 

  63. Posted by Put_Option | June 8, 2011 at 9:42 PM

    Liked this

  64. Posted by Guest | June 8, 2011 at 10:25 PM

    Goddamn, that was just awful. If your parents aren’t already embarrassed of you, they are now.

  65. Posted by Sleeper | June 9, 2011 at 12:23 AM

    Short taco truck/Mexican hangout/homeless bathroom, long dirty water dogs.

  66. Posted by Guest | June 9, 2011 at 2:42 AM

    yeah, it really wasn’t but was awful was you attempting to sound like a regular by telling someone to fuck and die for their comment. get some of your own material next time.

  67. Posted by Mtk18 | June 9, 2011 at 3:46 AM

    The 4-7pm happy hour a Beamers will never be the same.

  68. Posted by Guest | June 9, 2011 at 3:37 PM

    ESL?

  69. Posted by e.cromarty | June 12, 2011 at 7:01 PM

    There are two things at work here.
    First, to cite Reuters: “To entice UBS to move from New York City to Stamford, Connecticut in the early 1990s granted UBS an incentive package of about $120 million, with its final component ending around 2015, state and Stamford officials said”. It was granted in exchange for jobs, many of which were filled by people who currently reverse-commute from NYC. So now that the incentives are close to an end, UBS managment can shop for another tax abatement deal. Unusual? Not at all.
    Second, Stamford isn’t to blame for UBS’ hiring difficulties. Once a big-time player in the banking and trading world, they (like some other shops) needed a government bailout to stay alive. No wonder the “talent” isn’t interested in working for a moribund management team. Maybe someday things will be different, but that’s not the case today.

  70. Posted by Guest | June 15, 2011 at 7:13 PM

    how can UBS be saved?

  71. Posted by Ameet Padte | June 29, 2011 at 8:24 PM

    - UBS isn’t Google.  Employees who live in SF (even interns) are ferried in special Google buses to their fairy land, where they are showered with gold and myrrh.

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