Today is bonus communication day in BofA global markets and while there are no specifics to be had just yet, a couple things to note: 1) it’s not looking good and 2) this hurts them more than it hurts you.

“Pre-guidance was to expect bad news (zeroes for some). Still early in process but I saw one senior MD (trading group head) very upset and yelling after seeing the numbers he had to deliver.”

Comments (77)

  1. Posted by Guest | January 26, 2012 at 12:33 PM

    MD trading group head… Heh, he.

  2. Posted by Hook 'em Horns | January 26, 2012 at 12:35 PM

    This never would have happened if Stanley O'Neal were still alive.

  3. Posted by Guest | January 26, 2012 at 12:36 PM

    Trading group head for higher bonuses is not advised…unless filmed

    -SEC

  4. Posted by geoffgeoffgeoff | January 26, 2012 at 12:37 PM

    Que?

  5. Posted by Fixed Income | January 26, 2012 at 12:42 PM

    Glad you noticed my Academy Award winning performance so you don't blame me for not fighting for the group.

    – Senior MD

  6. Posted by guest | January 26, 2012 at 12:42 PM

    Bess, where's the sirens/wedding bells for Barney Frank?

  7. Posted by Occupier | January 26, 2012 at 12:45 PM

    Dear BoAers,

    Welcome to the 99%.

    We are waiting for you.

    Yes

  8. Posted by wide-clops | January 26, 2012 at 12:46 PM

    Getting a ZERO is the NKI

  9. Posted by PermaGuestII | January 26, 2012 at 12:47 PM

    It's B of A. They've always been in the 99%.

  10. Posted by query | January 26, 2012 at 12:48 PM

    Are you sure that the aforementioned Senior MD was yelling because of the numbers he had to GIVE or the numbers he GOT?!?!?!

  11. Posted by Margin Call | January 26, 2012 at 12:48 PM

    the latter. the numbers he got for himself…. 0

  12. Posted by George MD | January 26, 2012 at 12:51 PM

    These pretzels….are TOO SALTY!

  13. Posted by geoffgeoffgeoff | January 26, 2012 at 12:51 PM

    Pardone. For a hot minute, I tried to forget that BAC and MER are one.

    :(

  14. Posted by Guest | January 26, 2012 at 12:52 PM

    As long as you're home, your father wants you to do the dishes and take out the trash

    -Your mom

    P.S. and stop pestering those Wall St types online, you know they are sensitive

  15. Posted by Steel Reserve 40oz. | January 26, 2012 at 12:53 PM

    If the MD got 0, is it possible that the proletariat actually have to PAY BofA this year?

    -AIG Risk Manager, Capital Insturments

  16. Posted by Citadel Sr. Analyst | January 26, 2012 at 12:55 PM

    This is hilarious. Am I the only buy-sider, hedge-funder who is getting an enormous kick out of seeing these poor sell-side pricks getting the air pricked out of their bloated chests.

    -Hedge-Funder

  17. Posted by Margin Call | January 26, 2012 at 12:56 PM

    We other buy-side guys are totally with you.

    The buy-side is the NKI.

  18. Posted by Margin Call | January 26, 2012 at 12:56 PM

    The Sell-Side is for the losers who could never make the cross over to it.

  19. Posted by Guest | January 26, 2012 at 12:57 PM

    It's spelled merde. And yes, they are still one.

  20. Posted by PE - LBO | January 26, 2012 at 12:58 PM

    Citadel, with all your ego at play, it took you morons 4 years to get back to your high-water mark. Then how is it that you are feeling sorry for the sell-siders?

    -LBO Artist

  21. Posted by acronym | January 26, 2012 at 12:58 PM

    LBO = Let's Blow Out (my load!)

  22. Posted by analyst | January 26, 2012 at 1:02 PM

    I'd rather bend over and have my ass spanked with a bat than get a zero.

    - ML – 1st year S&T analyst

  23. Posted by MIT | January 26, 2012 at 1:02 PM

    O.K. guys, I am in a very difficult situation. I have a very nice car, 2008 BMW Z4, which gets me compliments all the time. There is this incredibly hot girl at work that I like but I've never talked to her before, since I have nothing to talk to her about. I figured that I could use my car as an ice breaker since all girls love guys in nice cars. So anyways, my problem is that there isn't a lot of parking near my building and also that it’s hard to time it so that the girl can see me getting out of my car in the morning. I’ve tried driving to work a little bit early so that I can secure a parking spot but then I wait for the girl to walk by so that she can see me getting out of my car, but I always miss her. Maybe she goes in a different way or something lol but this has made me late for work a couple of times which is getting me in trouble. Also, sometimes when I try this, the parking spots are all taken which means that I have to park really far away and then walk to work which makes me late too. I don’t think I can be late anymore so I thought I should try to do this outside of work. I know that this girl does yoga sometimes at a nearby plaza which has plenty of parking and would give me a good opportunity to bump into her in my car. There Is an Ice cream shop next to the yoga place and I can say that I was getting some Ice cream. I don’t like to eat stuff in my car though, so would it be weird if I didn’t actually get any Ice cream – would the story still be believable? Also, would it be really sketchy if I bumped into her randomly at the yoga place?

  24. Posted by guest | January 26, 2012 at 1:02 PM

    You're not alone. Sitting here in Stamford and have tears streaming down my face every time I read a bank bonus story.

  25. Posted by Guest | January 26, 2012 at 1:02 PM

    True. The E. Stanley O'Neal I knew would have given stock options that vested at $55. Granted the carrot was at the end of an impossibly long stick, but at least it made you stay until 4:15pm instead of cutting out at 4:02pm.

  26. Posted by Planet Romeo | January 26, 2012 at 1:05 PM

    Would you rather have something inserted in the said ass?

  27. Posted by query | January 26, 2012 at 1:08 PM

    Did you go to a top-tier college or one of those big state-schools

  28. Posted by Ken | January 26, 2012 at 1:10 PM

    I sent you out 1 hr ago. Where's my fucking ice cream?

  29. Posted by Guesto | January 26, 2012 at 1:11 PM

    These guys should go work for Merrill Lynch….

  30. Posted by advice | January 26, 2012 at 1:11 PM

    I'd say roll up to the girl and say, "Hey Baby, do you know what BMW means. It means Be My Wife! Will you?"

  31. Posted by brooklyn-born | January 26, 2012 at 1:12 PM

    AIG Risk Manager.

    Is thy name Joe Cassano

  32. Posted by Laxbro | January 26, 2012 at 1:12 PM

    Back office Asian trying to run game on the PWM slams. Humors.

  33. Posted by Trifflin' ho | January 26, 2012 at 1:13 PM

    when did a 2008 Z4 become a "very nice car"?!

    get a maserati, maybe we can talk then

  34. Posted by Countrywide | January 26, 2012 at 1:13 PM

    As you sow, so you will reap.

    - A. Mozillo

  35. Posted by Merill Baller | January 26, 2012 at 1:14 PM

    Correction — as I sow, so you shall reap.

    - J. Thain

  36. Posted by Guest | January 26, 2012 at 1:14 PM

    Matt, check your browser settings. Your JDate login is getting it's wires crossed with Dealbreaker.

  37. Posted by Mr. Pinchy | January 26, 2012 at 1:15 PM

    O'Neal is Paterno.
    Paterno is O'Neal.

  38. Posted by Guest | January 26, 2012 at 1:21 PM

    I know it's pathetic to remember a comment from three-four years ago. However, one of the best ever was a caption contest with Thain and Kenny L as they announced the merger. If memory serves, the commenter said:
    KL: My bid is Twenty…
    JT: Done!!
    KL: …Nine

  39. Posted by Guest | January 26, 2012 at 1:24 PM

    I have a comp structure you may be interested in.

    – Ping

  40. Posted by Maria | January 26, 2012 at 1:41 PM

    It's turning into a West Side Story gang fight here. Buy side vs sell side.

  41. Posted by Guest | January 26, 2012 at 1:51 PM

    When your best performing trading group is marketmakers, it's a little difficult look down on the sell-side.

  42. Posted by Wall St. Dude | January 26, 2012 at 1:52 PM

    A think this post was like half a day too early. Numbers?

  43. Posted by Guestest | January 26, 2012 at 2:00 PM

    You meant ML – 1st year T&A analyst

  44. Posted by Guesteeculos | January 26, 2012 at 2:06 PM

    What am I? Chopped fegato?!

    A. Cribiore

  45. Posted by merkin_capital | January 26, 2012 at 2:09 PM

    I heard MLCI nums were "very good".

    In a coverage group, If you get zero or anything close to it at the junior/mid-level that is a sign that your services are no longer needed.

    Ok, back to regularly scheduled programming (thinly veiled racism and allusions to Warren Buffett's sexual proclivities).

  46. Posted by The Truth | January 26, 2012 at 2:18 PM

    Thought the expression ended with rape

    - J. Epstein

  47. Posted by guy who knows things | January 26, 2012 at 2:19 PM

    CFA : MBA :: Buyside : Sellside

  48. Posted by Wall St. Dude | January 26, 2012 at 2:19 PM

    Good info, thanks

  49. Posted by yeezy | January 26, 2012 at 2:26 PM

    The paper read merde, black on black merde

  50. Posted by guest | January 26, 2012 at 2:31 PM

    bull fucking shit.

  51. Posted by LEAP | January 26, 2012 at 2:32 PM

    The only way BAC employees are making any money this year is if they buy $2.50 OTM calls

  52. Posted by merkin_capital | January 26, 2012 at 2:38 PM

    Or they just said they were "very good", using words only, and their mouth, And because I'm not 22 years old and don't lease a 3 series BMW, I didn't ask for a specific number.

  53. Posted by guest | January 26, 2012 at 2:40 PM

    Z4?!? Sure, you can use it to pick up other gay dudes.

  54. Posted by Headhunter | January 26, 2012 at 2:59 PM

    Well at least they don't have the risk of losing talent due to the bonus payout.

  55. Posted by Guest | January 26, 2012 at 3:00 PM

    Good effort, but you mean puts

  56. Posted by OfftheBalance Sheet | January 26, 2012 at 3:00 PM

    VP who got $20K… not sure if that means the axe is near?

  57. Posted by Guest | January 26, 2012 at 3:10 PM

    I think he meant Outs

  58. Posted by guest | January 26, 2012 at 3:28 PM

    Clown. For the record flows at most shops have sucked and opportunities to leave are much, much fewer than at almost any point I can recall in the last 5 years. This has equated into analyst comp (i.e. not a PM w/carry or profit share) getting pushed on hard. Now that is not the down 20-30% being seen at banks, but still, not a great world. So if you really do work at the Citadel, enjoy the next couple months. After that, fear for your job. Turnover there is a bitch.

  59. Posted by Guest | January 26, 2012 at 3:52 PM

    Being older than 22 and not leasing a 3 series is the NKI.

  60. Posted by neo_conjob | January 26, 2012 at 4:14 PM

    Go to Breitbart's blog and other Rightwing sites that promotes love and peace.
    Nothing but whistle blowers, hard blowers, screamers and conspiracy whacks.

    Pack your fav ear plugs.

  61. Posted by PermaGuestII | January 26, 2012 at 4:14 PM

    Maybe he meant a 2004 Z8?

  62. Posted by PermaGuestII | January 26, 2012 at 4:19 PM

    Yes.

    -guy who's been in the biz long enough to have worked on both sides

  63. Posted by Guest | January 26, 2012 at 4:53 PM

    seriously???….vp got $20k????

  64. Posted by Guest | January 26, 2012 at 10:12 PM

    Will someone please share Associate numbers?

  65. Posted by BonusArbitrage | January 26, 2012 at 10:55 PM

    10% – probably annualized though there is a chance it could be 20% annualized. Take away tax and you take a cool $3.5K home

  66. Posted by Jack Johnson | January 27, 2012 at 12:09 AM

    50k

  67. Posted by Warren Buffett | January 27, 2012 at 2:05 AM

    "… I try to buy stock in businesses that are so wonderful that an idiot can run them. Because sooner or later, one will."

  68. Posted by Guest | January 27, 2012 at 8:22 AM

    Call it over than 25

    -Classes of 2008 – 2012

  69. Posted by Damit Donny | January 27, 2012 at 9:11 AM

    quote fail.

  70. Posted by Wall St. Dude | January 27, 2012 at 9:51 AM

    In Investment banking? Which group in IB? Sure this isn't corp banking or portfolio mgmt?

  71. Posted by Guest | January 27, 2012 at 9:53 AM

    Apparently they stopped teaching grammar after 2007.

  72. Posted by Ken Griffin | January 27, 2012 at 11:56 AM

    I heard top first yr associates got 120K, pretty flat to last yr

  73. Posted by Pete554 | January 27, 2012 at 1:32 PM

    at least the HF cats are still bringing in big bonuses http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/insane-bonu...

  74. Posted by You deserved it... | January 27, 2012 at 2:05 PM

    Hahaha this is a new low… even for BofAML

  75. Posted by Wally | January 27, 2012 at 3:19 PM

    The bonuses in foreign currency terms must be down at least 50% from mid-cycle (which we will never get back to). Talk about an industry re-rating….

  76. Posted by Thomas Wong | January 27, 2012 at 6:09 PM

    MDs here in BAML in HK is getting paid a ton. Just shows that Chinese rule, even in an American bank.

  77. Posted by Ken Lewis | January 31, 2012 at 9:01 PM

    Wow this company REALLY sucks

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