• 18 Jan 2012 at 11:13 AM

Bonus Watch ’12: JPMorgan

The take-away here is put in for that transfer to Brazil? From the front lines:

Associates:
Base salary going down for all:
Associate 1: 120k / year (down from 125k)
Associate 2: 140k / year (down from 150k)

Bonus are still coming in but overall not good. Top Analysts 2 and 3 from last year received higher cash bonuses than several Associates 1 this time around. Associates 1 get 20% of bonus in stock for starters, % increases with seniority. Stock component schedule: 0% year 1, 50% year 2, 50% year 3.

VPs and above:
Supposedly base salary is frozen. For example, a VP1 becoming a VP2 will keep the same VP1 base salary from last year, indefinitely.

Also rumored that Brazil I-banking at JPM keeps getting paid the most (still less than local competition, but significantly higher than NY. Realistic bonus expectation of at least 2x as much as NY, plus same base salary).

Comments (80)

  1. Posted by Jaws | January 18, 2012 at 11:22 AM

    Yea, and the girl's have better arse's

    -Hugh Hendry

  2. Posted by grammatical guest | January 18, 2012 at 11:24 AM

    Interesting use of apostrophes.

  3. Posted by Guest | January 18, 2012 at 11:26 AM

    Well, if they book early they can get LoFares everyday to Braz/sil

  4. Posted by VP Zero | January 18, 2012 at 11:28 AM

    I'd transfer to Brazil, but I don't speak Spanish.

  5. Posted by Guest | January 18, 2012 at 11:33 AM

    I'd transfer to Brazil but I have an extensive criminal record there…

  6. Posted by Occupy wall street | January 18, 2012 at 11:33 AM

    Associate 3: 160k / year (down from 175k)

  7. Posted by Guest 1 | January 18, 2012 at 11:33 AM

    A2 total comp this year (this is second bucket)

    Salary 150 (above is correct that new A2s are going to be 140) – bump in salary to 160 (vs. 175 which is what current A3s were making)
    Bonus 150 (120/30 cash/stock) – stock is 50% vested in 2 years and the remainder vests in 3 years

    Confirmed that salaries for VP and above are frozen

  8. Posted by pazzo83 | January 18, 2012 at 11:38 AM

    Thing is with Brazil you have to factor in the $25k or so you need to bulletproof your car. Call it a cost-of-living adjustment.

  9. Posted by Guest | January 18, 2012 at 11:40 AM

    Brazilians speak Portuguese.

  10. Posted by Triple Confirm | January 18, 2012 at 11:41 AM

    You can't triple stamp a double stamp.

  11. Posted by Guest | January 18, 2012 at 11:41 AM

    Additionally, the city of Beautiful Asses is a short jaunt.
    -JPM 3rd Year Analyst/PT Mossad

  12. Posted by Guest | January 18, 2012 at 11:43 AM

    Craptastic. Hope the JPMers can crash on their girlfriends' couches until this downturn passes.

  13. Posted by Guest | January 18, 2012 at 11:45 AM

    Just wait until we start bulking up from eating veggie burgers.

    - OWS'er

  14. Posted by TheJokeBriefer | January 18, 2012 at 11:52 AM

    I might be able to help you on that one later this afternoon.

  15. Posted by Wire | January 18, 2012 at 11:52 AM

    You're the first time I've ever seen more thumbs down than minutes since the post was made.

  16. Posted by lucas | January 18, 2012 at 11:54 AM

    Speaking of Brazilian nether regions, I've always wondered what they call a full wax job in Brazil.

  17. Posted by Associate | January 18, 2012 at 11:59 AM

    Getting paid more than an analyst is the NKI

  18. Posted by Shecky Pele' | January 18, 2012 at 12:00 PM

    An MF Global cash sweep clerk is watching the news with her husband when the newscaster says,
    "Two Brazilian men die in a skydiving accident."

    The blonde starts crying and says to her husband while sobbing
    "That's horrible!!! So many men dying that way!"

    Confused the husband replies "Yes dear, it is sad, but they were skydiving, and there is always that risk involved."

    After a few minutes, the blonde, still sobbing, says,
    "… So how many is a Brazilian?"

  19. Posted by lucas | January 18, 2012 at 12:05 PM

    Was the husband a LEH extreme sports risk quant?

  20. Posted by Braziler | January 18, 2012 at 12:07 PM

    Stay in NY. Nobody wants you rodents down here.

    -Former NYer, in Brazil.

  21. Posted by pazzo83 | January 18, 2012 at 12:10 PM

    Você é estúpido.

  22. Posted by NowOnePerson | January 18, 2012 at 12:10 PM

    Standard

  23. Posted by Bandersnatch | January 18, 2012 at 12:14 PM

    I thought Brazil was part of Latin America
    -UBS Emerging Markets MD

  24. Posted by Guest | January 18, 2012 at 12:18 PM

    I think you meant apostrophe's.

  25. Posted by CoveredLong | January 18, 2012 at 12:20 PM

    This kind of pay disparity is common at UBS:

    NY Banker: You guys are really getting paid over two hundred thousand dollars?
    Brazilian Banker: Two hundred thousand – real.
    NY Banker: Real cash too, no stock – are you for real?
    Brazilian Banker: Yes, it’s real.
    NY Banker: Right.

  26. Posted by Berns | January 18, 2012 at 12:20 PM

    tell it to compliance bitch, I customize my timestamps depending on the statement I need to produce.

  27. Posted by Guest | January 18, 2012 at 12:26 PM

    1 Brazilian real = 0.5621 US dollars @ GDP per capita PPP $11210.36 dollars in December of 2010 – those guys down there must be killing it.

  28. Posted by lucas | January 18, 2012 at 12:26 PM

    Too bad the plural of real is reais and "ray-al" doesn't sound anything like "reel" anyway. This joke doesn't work.
    - JPM cross-cultural risk quant

  29. Posted by AIG Quant via LEH | January 18, 2012 at 12:28 PM

    You called?

  30. Posted by Droolin | January 18, 2012 at 12:29 PM

    Aren't there 2 kinds of currency in Brazil? The real and the whatchamacallit?

    -Guy Who Is Envious of Brazil's Daily Crude Oil Production

  31. Posted by CoveredLong | January 18, 2012 at 12:31 PM

    For real?

  32. Posted by lucas | January 18, 2012 at 12:34 PM

    Dunno. Wikipedia is broken.

  33. Posted by lucas | January 18, 2012 at 12:38 PM

    The credited answer was "Royale with cheese."

  34. Posted by Nervous Travel Agent | January 18, 2012 at 12:40 PM

    Watch the movie Turistas and then tell me how you feel. Especially if you have a pierced belly button.

  35. Posted by In da hood | January 18, 2012 at 12:40 PM

    Hitlers

  36. Posted by Bringin It Back | January 18, 2012 at 12:43 PM

    Wiki shut down for the day for the SOPA protest. Heck, I can't even get into WikiCleave………

  37. Posted by Lebron James | January 18, 2012 at 12:47 PM

    Why move to Brazil when you can simply head to Miami?

  38. Posted by PermaGuestII | January 18, 2012 at 12:52 PM

    This guy Mike seems to make out ok down there, though.

  39. Posted by spanish teacher | January 18, 2012 at 12:52 PM

    you need to use estar instead of ser, duh.

  40. Posted by trojan_ | January 18, 2012 at 12:54 PM

    figured that out without Wikipedia?

  41. Posted by d bag | January 18, 2012 at 12:56 PM

    Incorrecto, gringo estupido.

  42. Posted by Guest | January 18, 2012 at 1:03 PM

    Gross! You may want to get that looked at.

  43. Posted by lucas | January 18, 2012 at 1:05 PM

    "Estar" is for temporary states only. Stupidity is permanent. And you should know.

  44. Posted by Guest | January 18, 2012 at 1:14 PM

    Why live, when you can simply kill yourself

  45. Posted by m. hunt | January 18, 2012 at 1:24 PM

    It creates a slight breach of etiquette, but it passes.

    - Ralphie as narrator.

  46. Posted by Guest | January 18, 2012 at 1:24 PM

    weird

  47. Posted by Favela Freak | January 18, 2012 at 1:26 PM

    Head to Rio.. I hear BOPE is hiring..

  48. Posted by FKApmco | January 18, 2012 at 1:34 PM

    Ergo populus loquor Latin. Rectus?

  49. Posted by Peter North | January 18, 2012 at 1:35 PM

    Amateurs……

  50. Posted by Guest | January 18, 2012 at 1:38 PM

    Yes, he worked under Dan Cortese who was brought in to start that group in the late 90's.

  51. Posted by PermaGuestII | January 18, 2012 at 1:38 PM

    Sed ne tunc quidem Romanorum?

    -ex-Ursae procuratur periculum

  52. Posted by SOPA Nazi | January 18, 2012 at 1:38 PM

    Wrong. Blacked out.

  53. Posted by Leonard Malt'em | January 18, 2012 at 1:41 PM

    Check out the movie, "Flying Down to Rio" (1933) with Fred Astaire for a realistic idea of Brazil during the Depression that was ongoing then. FYI, it's NSFW in some scenes.

    -Guy Who Watches Old Movies

  54. Posted by RRP | January 18, 2012 at 1:51 PM

    I can transfer as I have great salsa skills ..

    - UBS Emerging Market VP

  55. Posted by Sam | January 18, 2012 at 1:56 PM

    Pay still in line with range WSO gives for ibanker pay: http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/salary/investment-...

    …what's all the crying about?

  56. Posted by lucas | January 18, 2012 at 1:57 PM

    Romani, ite domum!

  57. Posted by Calve Stulte | January 18, 2012 at 2:17 PM

    Quin tu istanc orationem hing veterem atque antiquam amoves!

  58. Posted by merkin_capital | January 18, 2012 at 2:33 PM

    The next time your ball comes over this fence, I'm keeping it. Now run along.

  59. Posted by FKApmco | January 18, 2012 at 2:50 PM

    You're just making that up, aren't you?

  60. Posted by RRP | January 18, 2012 at 3:02 PM

    I can transfer as I have great salsa skills ..

  61. Posted by wahoo | January 18, 2012 at 3:59 PM

    And most porn sites are shut down too!!

    -Guy who's friend told him that

  62. Posted by Guest | January 18, 2012 at 4:01 PM

    Thanks for the NSFW tip. I was going to project it on the trading floor and take the rest of the day off.

  63. Posted by TheJokeBriefer | January 18, 2012 at 4:10 PM

    Dearest FKApmco:

    Although you didn't need a briefing, I thought I'd chime in here as an investment banking client will be delayed getting to my office this afternoon due to a case of the flu and I have "tempis to necare" as they used to say in Pompeii.

    A review of Calve Stulte's comment suggests he/she owns a copy of "How To Insult, Abuse & Insinute In Classical Latin", by Movric and Mardas.

    Calve translates as the admonition, "Egg head!" and Stulte would translate today as "Dumbo" .

    "Quin tu istanc orationem hing veterem atque antiquam amoves! would translate today as (and my Latin is a bit rusty) "Quit speaking in an old language…."

    As a fellow student of humor I think you would know that the Greeks and Romans had sharp tongues. Today, some might say the Roman known as Cicero was the "Triumph The Insult Dog" of his day. That old "insult" humor surfaces often in Shakespearean works. Aulus Gellius (130 – 180CE) wrote "Attic Nights" about many subjects including "insult humor" back in the Roman day.

    "Calve Stulte" was being polite in the use of alleged insult humor as much of the know scraps of it are vitriolic and sharp, sort of like a Don Rickles riff.

    Further reading might be interesting and I'd suggest, "Roman Hands – An Oil Trader's Guide to "Dinner and a Movie" End Games", Cabaret Press, 45 pages, $69.00.

  64. Posted by guest | January 18, 2012 at 4:15 PM

    Stop spamming the comments with links to your dog-shit site. No one is reading it, move on.

  65. Posted by FKApmco | January 18, 2012 at 4:43 PM

    Amo te…a really, really, really lot.
    Luce sunt clariora tua concilia omnia

  66. Posted by PermaGuestII | January 18, 2012 at 5:01 PM

    It would probably be more relevant than 99% of CNBC.

  67. Posted by Guest | January 18, 2012 at 5:02 PM

    Does anyone know the bonus numbers for VP?

  68. Posted by lucas | January 18, 2012 at 5:21 PM

    Nah, man.
    – SEC Bro

  69. Posted by bluehorseshoe | January 18, 2012 at 5:56 PM

    Sorry Mrs. Jackson

  70. Posted by Banker | January 18, 2012 at 8:37 PM

    Where did A4s come out? Stop the bs talk and talk about things people care about!

  71. Posted by Guest | January 19, 2012 at 1:28 AM

    NY banker is a mute and Brazilian banker is deaf. This conversation was over inter-office IM you douche.

  72. Posted by Longtimer | January 19, 2012 at 8:05 AM

    Associate 5: 185k/year (down from 200)

  73. Posted by guest | January 19, 2012 at 8:14 AM

    i get it, italian! you go, paesans.

  74. Posted by Reality | January 19, 2012 at 8:16 AM

    At least JP has the money to build an indoor squash court in Grand Central. Tournamemt pays winners several hundred thousand. Thank goodness for that.

  75. Posted by Brian Cohen | January 19, 2012 at 12:54 PM

    Romanes eunt domus!!!

  76. Posted by Futures | January 19, 2012 at 3:37 PM

    There is no way to say this without sounding like a tool or that warburg fuck.

    I thought we had some bigger or at least moderate hitters on here..

    This is uhh….zeros in the bad way eye opener frankly

  77. Posted by JPM Employee | January 19, 2012 at 4:26 PM

    Contrary to popular beliefs I think JPM did relatively better to other competitors. Not only were JPM's risk management practices ahead of the pack, but we were able to avoid the mistakes of our friends, neighbors and colleagues of the finance markets.

    That said, we were not down that much at all. Most I know are actually quite content.

    Take that and shove it up BLANKFeen!!

  78. Posted by Vpemptypromise | January 19, 2012 at 8:12 PM

    Associate 7: 160/year (down from 200)

  79. Posted by Clue Phone | January 20, 2012 at 5:13 AM

    But you can't be sure they were born girls.

  80. Posted by Chase What Matters | February 3, 2012 at 3:56 AM

    JPM sucks – they deserve to be paid like their commercial banking brethren

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