• 21 Feb 2012 at 6:46 PM

The Smart Indexes Are Even Worse Than The Dumb Ones*

You may have heard that the Dow hit 13,000 today before subsiding to a shameful 12,965.69. You may not have heard this, or cared, because the Dow is for morons, being a price-weighted index of thirty semi-random companies that, gah, aren’t even “industrial” any more.** There are alternative theories but those theories are wrong:

Joe Weisenthal in defense of the Dow has been noting its very high correlation with other, broader, more sensible indexes. I see this as further undermining the Dow’s legitimacy. If it’s very different methodology were leading to some kind of meaningfully different result, then we could perhaps argue that it’s adding value in some kind of way. But instead what’s going on is that the Dow’s creators are hand-picking which stocks to include in the index specifically with an eye toward constructing an index that mirrors the other, better indexes out there. Apple and Google, for example, aren’t in the Dow and aren’t doing to get in any time soon because their very high share prices would skew the index in weird ways. This just goes to show that the Dow’s creators already “know” the right answer (from looking at the S&P 500 and the Wilshire 5000) and then are trying to assemble an index to create the predetermined result.

Maybe! An alternative theory is maybe suggested by [Occam's razor and] this piece from the Journal this weekend about index funds that I just loved and so am now going to inflict on you at unnecessary length:

Recently, leading investing experts—including Rodney Sullivan, editor of the Financial Analysts Journal, consultant James Xiong of Morningstar Investment Management and Jeffrey Wurgler, a finance professor at New York University—have been warning that index funds could destabilize the financial markets. …

Today, according to Morningstar, 336 index funds and 1,148 ETFs hold $1.24 trillion, or fully one-third of all the money in U.S. stock funds.

That worries some analysts. “Markets work best when people think and act independently, not all together,” Mr. Sullivan says. When investors add money to an index fund, it generally will buy every security in the market that it tracks—hundreds, sometimes thousands at a time, regardless of price. When investors pull money out, the index fund has to sell across the board.

“These index-trading behaviors,” Mr. Sullivan says, “could interact with some unexpected event to cause significant and outsize consequences.”

When I think about the things that are probably important in the world this one comes up from time to time. It’s interesting in part because it’s structural – there’s a prisoners’-dilemma quality to it in that, for you personally, no matter what everyone else does, you should index***, but if everyone in fact follows that dominant strategy then we’re all screwed. And I think that the guys cited by the Journal – and linked, go read their papers, they’re interesting – actually understate the extent of that screwing. Yes if everyone indexes then correlations go up and, yeah, sure, I’ll buy that vol, or at least tail risk, goes up too because the herd movements will exacerbate panics and make flights to safety more extreme.

But the main problem with super-efficient financialization can’t really be that it will lead to more vol in your super-efficient financial products. I’d worry about something else: that the problem with a large and increasing proportion of our financial capital being allocated blindly and without any evaluation of the business prospects of the companies getting money might be … that that system will be bad at picking the right businesses to finance.

The goofiest part of the Journal article is what to do about it. To be fair this is for individual investors but the gist is: go beyond the S&P 500 to invest in like the Wilshire 3000, international stock markets, and of course:

Bond index funds, even at today’s paltry yields and lower returns, can still buffer the risks. “One thing hasn’t gone away at all,” Mr. Sullivan says. “Bonds will still provide padding for uncertain events and times.”

What could possibly go wrong? I mean, this struck a nerve with me because it’s what I do, and is the obvious advice for anyone who is financially literate but not going to go around picking stocks and market timing: just fling your money at a pile of things that approximates the breakdown of world GDP and hope for the best. You, like, can’t do worse than average with that approach. You can’t do better than average either but you weren’t going to anyway, particularly not after fees.

But eventually someone is going to design a product for people like me who don’t want to have to buy US and world and bond index funds and rebalance them periodically. That product will just be a market-notional-weighted index of all the financial products that you can buy in the world. And I’ll buy that index. And that will be the end of my making any (ill-informed and mostly wrong) decisions about whether bonds are overpriced relative to equities or vice versa or whatever. As I’ve already ended – before it began – making any sorts of decisions about which companies are going to beat earnings estimates or whatever it is that companies do.

And maybe that’s just me, but right now it looks more like it’s me and 1/3 of the rest of the country. And that number is going up. We’ve mentioned before that elegant Interfluidity post about opacity and complexity in finance, which contains the lines:

Opacity is not something that can be reformed away, because it is essential to banks’ economic function of mobilizing the risk-bearing capacity of people who, if fully informed, wouldn’t bear the risk. Societies that lack opaque, faintly fraudulent, financial systems fail to develop and prosper. Insufficient economic risks are taken to sustain growth and development. You can have opacity and an industrial economy, or you can have transparency and herd goats.

I have my doubts. One reason to doubt is that there are lots of people employed as capital allocators whose business it is to get to the bottom of opacity, understand the risks of a project, and then make a call about whether it has a sufficiently high NPV to finance. Those guys are getting increasingly swamped by high correlations and indexed investing. But it’s hard to see how indexing could replace them.

Simple Index Funds May Be Complicating the Markets [WSJ]
Hedge funds ‘have to try harder’ [FT]

* Indices. I prefer “indices.” But what are you gonna do.

** Really, just, gah. Price weighting I can deal with because it’s a nostalgic Jesse Livermore throwback to when common stocks had a $100 par value and were supposed to trade roughly at par, and as an antiquarian I think that’s kind of cool. But – as a very literal-minded antiquarian – it drives me nuts that the “Dow Jones Transportation Average” has, like, a bunch of transportation companies, while the “Dow Jones Industrial Average” has, like, BofA. What are they manufacturing? Don’t answer that.

*** Or, fine, be really f’ing good at picking stocks, I don’t care, do that.

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  1. Posted by UFO | February 21, 2012 at 7:03 PM

    Here ye, here ye, henceforth indices are proclaimed opaquinators

    – guy who likes to invent words

  2. Posted by Guest | February 21, 2012 at 7:24 PM

    It didn't bother me before, but now that the other commenters pointed it out, the "like"s are starting to bug me too.

    – Guy who didn't used to mind the "like"s

  3. Posted by Antiquarian IR | February 21, 2012 at 7:25 PM

    Now gather all ye faithful for the reading of the Antiquarian – Levine Capital Adviser's Buy The Entire Cornucopia of The Realm's Financial Instruments Total Return Indices Fund limited partnership agreement (which by the way is the longest LP agreement ever devised, by an order of 20)

  4. Posted by Jacob | February 21, 2012 at 7:34 PM

    This post is exactly right. It's also what I think of every time someone tries to argue that no one should ever invest in actively managed funds. Or points out that actively managed funds fail to outperform the index IN AGGREGATE (duh, they ARE the index). Provided fees are low enough, SOMEONE has to do the work of capital allocation besides the exchanges.

  5. Posted by Chart Lover | February 21, 2012 at 7:41 PM

    NCDR

  6. Posted by Bugs | February 21, 2012 at 8:47 PM

    Again with the goats. I agree that it's a clever comment but I think you are developing a dangerous obsession.

  7. Posted by Dudeburger | February 21, 2012 at 9:01 PM

    I think he's now doing it to piss us off. I refuse to believe that he actually thinks writing like that will make him more likable (no pun intended).

  8. Posted by Texashedge | February 21, 2012 at 9:09 PM

    I feel the same way about the Dow that I feel about batting average: I know it's a stupid number, but it's still the first thing I look at.

  9. Posted by RBS MLB Quant | February 21, 2012 at 9:17 PM

    Huh?

    -Guy who runs the office baseball pools

  10. Posted by EMH? Nah. | February 21, 2012 at 10:03 PM

    Fine, Matt. If you could run money, you'd be running money. Since you can't run money, you can write about how hard it is to run money.

  11. Posted by Buzz Kilington | February 21, 2012 at 11:32 PM

    You actually do better than average with index funds (2nd quartile performance) because the average manager underperforms after taking into account fees.

    -CFA Level II candidate (Matt, this info and so much more could be yours for the low price of half a years libido)

  12. Posted by Greece | February 22, 2012 at 12:35 AM

    "Dangerous"? Um . . . You really think so?

  13. Posted by Ghost | February 22, 2012 at 12:38 AM

    Matt, I like your posts. Really, I do. But footnote #1 in the headline and # 2 in paragraph #1? Come on – cant you let us get into the article before having to scroll down to the bottom, but before the multitude of comments ripping on your use of the word "like"?

  14. Posted by Frogger | February 22, 2012 at 12:40 AM

    ProTip – Slugging Percentage is a much, much more reliable number.

  15. Posted by Capt. Obvious (Ret) | February 22, 2012 at 1:11 AM

    The point of this entire post, and of the inter-whatever quote, are on point and rather simple. And they are the underpinnings of the financial markets. "People", whether defined as destitute grandmas, desperate farmers, or pension fund PMs, would rather not spend their days working through individual investments. "Opacity" is just code for "don't have the time to do it myself." people want to go to work, get their paycheck, and put part of it somewhere they think it will grow. Like a seed.

    If you pick someone to spread your seeds with a blunt instrument like a crop duster, turns out a measurable percentage of them will usually grow. If you pick a hand-sow farmer, you had better pick the right one, as some will have bumper crops and some will strike out. Some of them may even use their own version of a crop duster – surprisingly, their results will approximate the general crop duster approach (less fees, of course).

  16. Posted by ML Stock-Pick System | February 22, 2012 at 1:46 AM

    on a short enough timeline, everyone's alpha goes to infinity

  17. Posted by Guest | February 22, 2012 at 1:48 AM

    Good high five photo!

  18. Posted by guest | February 22, 2012 at 2:07 AM

    Give him some credit. Matt knows he can't run money, so he does something else even though it probably pays less. That's more than can be said for 90% of the people running money, who whether they know it or not, are underperforming their index or winning that year's coin flippling contest. (I liked the post…)

  19. Posted by Phil Connors | February 22, 2012 at 4:38 AM

    I'm guessing you're new here?

  20. Posted by Guest | February 22, 2012 at 9:05 AM

    Well said. Think the majority of people who read this get that there's an entire nation of imbeciles who have been made rich flipping coins for people who were too scared to flip em themselves.

    That being said, be fat, rich, happy, and shut the fuck up.

  21. Posted by John paulson | February 22, 2012 at 9:19 AM

    Hey you know like fuck you man, who put this thing together ? me that's who.

  22. Posted by Winner | February 22, 2012 at 9:21 AM

    let me guess you work in the corn pit ?

  23. Posted by Nailz6 | February 22, 2012 at 9:23 AM

    Matt, I enjoyed your post, but knew it was coming since I've been long of equities.

    The Gartman

  24. Posted by HFguy | February 22, 2012 at 1:45 PM

    Can't read such a long post Matt.

    Most funds are just an equal weighted allocation to the sector. Many prefer RSP – S&P 500 Eq Wt ETF to the usual one and so on and on..

    Go to EDHEC RISK site and they have research upon research on this. and much more interesting.

  25. Posted by guest | February 22, 2012 at 2:14 PM

    Matt, little less talking and little more studying, Level 2 is coming up in June…

    Guy who still wants proof

  26. Posted by Dbroker | February 23, 2012 at 8:58 PM

    Stop all this index nonsense darn it. Stop it I say an right now. I can't make a living selling index funds. Sure the active funds tend as a group underperform, but I'm selling the dream man. I'm the broker who's going to find you the good managers ahead of their performance run. And my sales load goes to feeding my family. And don't mess with my 12b1's, their like a nice wad of cash slid under the door when nobody's looking. I mean come on, you see how cheap index funds are. How's a guy going to make a living schlepping. Clients don't want to improve their odds of investment succes based on actual data, they want to pay for a relationship with me. Until theyre fully invested, then I gots to move on.

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    Index funds make money primarily by keeping costs as low as possible. Given that strategy, it doesn't pay for them to spend a lot of time or effort monitoring company management or analyzing and voting proxies. Index funds generally take a "set it and forget it" approach. Some vote with management on virtually everything. Some vote as recommended by a proxy advisor. Other develop a rudimentary checkbox approach to vote in favor of "best practices" on proxy issues, without really analyzing their applicability to specific companies. I would guess that very few put in real substantial effort. Since they typically own less than 1% of a company's stock, 99% of the benefit of such efforts would go to others.

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