This Is A Post About Greenshoes

Why don’t we talk abstractly about greenshoes for a while, because for some reason some people want to talk about them and hey, why not, they’re a thing. In talking about greenshoes, though, we are not going to use the F-word, because I swore to myself that last week was the end of that. We’re just going to talk about greenshoes. Greenshoes.*

Let’s start with a very basic thing about greenshoes, which is that they make no sense! If you are a company, or an executive or investor or whatever in a company, and you want to raise money and/or sell your shares, here are things that you could want:
(1) to raise $100 million
(2) to sell 5mm of your shares

Here are things you are unlikely to want:
(1) to raise $100 or $115 million
(2) to sell 5mm or 5.75mm of your shares

Obvs, no? Keep in mind that, when you launch the deal, you don’t know exactly what price you’ll get – you’ll just have a range – which is an annoying enough uncertainty. Throwing in the additional binary that you’ll get either an uncertain $X or 115% of $X seems a bit much. So here is what happens when a naive company comes to an underwriter:

NC: We would like to sell 5mm shares.
UW: Okay. Of course there will be a greenshoe, so we will have a 30-day option to make it 5.75mm shares instead.
NC: What?
UW: Everyone does it.
NC: Well, why don’t we not?
UW: No one will buy it
NC: Really?
UW: Sure. I’m gonna go with sure.
NC: That seems strange.
UW: Yeah, but here we are.

Is this true? Meh. Plenty of block trades and secondary sell-downs have no greenshoes, while pretty much all marketed equity offerings have them, so you could question the notion that investors will straight up refuse to buy a deal with no greenshoe. IPOs, on the other hand, basically always have greenshoes, either because they are actually necessary to get an IPO done as no investor would buy a brand new company without the promise of aftermarket support, or because IPOs are where underwriters have the most power and issuers are most naïve and trusting.**

In any case, though, these options get introduced into deals because underwriters want them, not because issuers do. So why might they want them? Well Felix Salmon hazards a guess:

Chances are, no one outside the company will ever know for sure what Morgan Stanley’s P&L on [a certain company’s] IPO [that Morgan Stanley lead-underwrote last week] ends up looking like. But it would make sense, if Morgan Stanley saw a lot of selling pressure on Friday, for the bank to keep onto at least a little bit of its short position into Monday morning. At which point it could make a tidy profit on that plunging share price.

So, yes, this is theoretically possible and I alluded to it on Friday. But at this point if I had to guess I’d say it’s more likely that MS bought more than 63mm shares (the full size of this IPO’s greenshoe) at $38 or higher – that is, that it put some of its own fees to work in stabilizing the deal and trying to protect the $38 deal price – than that it bought fewer than 63mm shares at or above deal price, letting the deal crater so as to make a profit by buying in its short at $34ish. [Update: actually, let me walk this back a bit. It’s I guess unlikely that they’d have bought much above $38; they’d have defended it as much as they could on Friday but I guess that that defense was somewhat less than 63mm shares – I guessed “more than half” on Friday. Then they’d come in today expecting to defend it more, even committing capital if necessary, but with an open $1.47 below the IPO price there was no buying to be done at $38. Not sure if that meant some stabilizing on the way down or not, or perhaps saving some dry powder. The broader point is that the stabilizing is good-faith and done on behalf of the deal – not, usually, to maximize trading profits.]

Why wouldn’t Morgan Stanley just sit out Friday’s carnage and then buy in its short with a $33 handle today, making hundreds of millions of dollars in profits? You could have two theories. One, less compelling but more cynical, theory is that the greenshoe is a valuable option for economic reasons: let’s pretend that banks regularly do defend weak deals only halfheartedly, and then make lots of money buying in their short at well below the deal price. If that were true – and it seems unlikely to be a regular thing but it probably happens sometimes – then obviously screwing your biggest client in the highest-profile deal in, I don’t know, ever*** would be a pretty good way to draw attention to your behavior and have every future issuer client demand a no-greenshoe deal. Or, more to the point, a no-Morgan-Stanley deal. Best to take your nefarious profits in other, lower-profile deals, while being squeaky-clean on this one.

The other theory is that Morgan Stanley actually takes its role as stabilization agent seriously: it wants to stabilize the deal. It is hampered by that most fundamental of problems, more sellers than buyers, but it tried its darndest. You can see roughly how much of its darndest it tried by looking at things like how many shares traded at the deal price on Friday, or how deep a bid there was at $38, and you’d probably conclude from that data that MS was buying in size. It’s hard to know exactly because (1) you don’t know where MS was buying (it may have wanted to defend slightly above or below the deal price) and (2) you don’t know who else was buying there (hoping to scalp a few pennies while protected by MS’s stabilization bid), but the overall impression is not one of Morgan Stanley caving quickly in its defense of the deal price.

On this theory, Morgan Stanley would make a note of facts like these:

  • You can more or less see how strongly they supported the deal, using Bloomberg and your mind and stuff.
  • There are shitloads more shares coming when insiders get out of lockup; Eduardo Saverin’s got bills to pay.
  • There are more tech equity offerings coming …
  • … but there would be even more if this deal had gone better.
  • JPMorgan and Goldman Sachs have Bloombergs, and minds, and frustrations, and very strong incentives to go to every potential tech issuer and say “look what a shitshow that deal was, and how poorly Morgan Stanley defended it. Don’t you want your deal to go well?”
  • JPMorgan and Goldman Sachs have Bloombergs etc., and very strong incentives to go to every investing client and say “hey, did Morgan Stanley allocate you shares in that IPO? Did you notice how it cratered? Did you notice how they didn’t support it? Maybe you should punish them by trading with us, or by not buying into their next struggling deal.”

And Morgan Stanley would conclude from those facts that it would be more in its interest to defend the deal, and to do so as strenuously as possible – even throw a bit of its own capital into the effort – so that it can tell its issuer client, and future issuers, and investors who bought in the deal and got hosed, that it was there for them. Because there will be a post-mortem on this deal, and Goldman and JPMorgan will say to the client “yeah, it was great working with Morgan Stanley, they did a great job and we got along really well, I can’t really fault them at all for not consulting us on the stabilization and letting the price drop to $34 and then buying there, I mean, we might have done it differently and kept the stock above the deal price but, hey, their way is good too, team players, rah,” and when that happens the Morgan Stanley banker is going to really, really want to be able to say “we defended this deal as well as anyone could have, spent the whole greenshoe supporting the price and even threw in a lot of our own money, taking a loss on the way down to help you and your insiders who after all still own tens of billions of dollars of stock.”

So I suspect he’ll be able to say exactly that. But he’ll be kind of kidding, because the goal is not really to help the issuer and the insiders. The goal is to help the investors who bought the stock in the first place: the guys who took a risk and helped out both the issuer and, more to the point, the underwriters by placing an order that was filled a bit more than they expected. The investors are the ones who want the greenshoe; they want to be sure that the underwriters will be properly incentivized to support the deal in the aftermarket.

People talk about the IPO “pop” as the incentive for investors to take a risk on a new company, but the greenshoe is part of the same package of incentives: the expectation of a pop gives investors some upside for taking that risk, while the underwriters’ stabilization efforts gives the investors some near-term downside protection. Losing it, either by not having a greenshoe in the first place or by having underwriters primarily concerned with gaming it for short-term profit, would make investors angry, and less interested in buying.

We’ve talked before about how securities offerings are a nice clear case of a key conflict of interest within investment banks, who are charged with helping both their issuer and investor clients even when, as in an IPO, issuer and investors are more or less playing a zero-sum game where every dollar saved by the investors is a dollar lost to the issuer. The greenshoe is a non-zero-sum way of adding value with optimal risk-shifting: it takes some uncertainty about aftermarket performance from skittish investors and gives it, in the form of uncertainty about deal size, to an issuer who is probably better able to bear it (because selling 15% more shares at the price you agreed on three days ago is rarely a tragedy). The structure of the greenshoe, though, adds an additional conflict, in that banks can hoard the value of the greenshoe for themselves rather than spending it on their investor clients. The fact that they basically don’t do that suggests that motive and opportunity aren’t everything: sometimes banks just do the right thing for capital allocation and risk shifting, even when they could make more money doing the wrong thing.

Morgan Stanley’s $2.4 billion Facebook short [Reuters / Felix Salmon]
Bankers Under Fire as Facebook Slips 11% [WSJ]
Morgan Stanley made big bet on Facebook [Reuters]

* Um. So. If you are reading this you know how a greenshoe works, right? But if not? A company does an offering of 100 shares of stock. The company almost always includes a 15-share “greenshoe,” or “overallotment option,” in the offering. (15% is the near-universal norm.) This is just a 30-day call option, struck at the IPO price less underwriting fees, that the company sells to the underwriters for $0. (Exercise for the reader: what is the fair value of this option?) What this means is that the underwriters, when the IPO is priced and allocated, actually lay out 115 shares. Let’s say the IPO prices at OH I DON’T KNOW $38: the underwriters sell 115 shares to investors at $38. They don’t immediately deliver those shares since stocks settle T+3. So now investors have 115 shares – but the underwriters have only bought 100 from the company. They are short the remaining 15 shares. Then they wait. If the stock goes up, as it often does, they just exercise the option and buy stock at $38 less the underwriting fees, giving them a profit equal to the underwriting fees. If it doesn’t particularly go up, they tend to buy a lot of stock at right around $38, to “defend” the IPO price, or “stabilize” it in the lingo. The greenshoe allows them to do this buying without getting massively long the stock for their own account, which would I guess be TERRIFYING PROP TRADING or whatever and which, more to the point, they probably wouldn’t want to do because buying lots of a cratering stock on the way down seems like a bad idea when it’s your own money though perfectly pleasant when it’s not. Typically a deal either “goes well” or “doesn’t go well” within a day or two, so the greenshoe is either exercised or bought in pretty quickly and the 30-day term of the option is irrelevant; it’s unusual for the underwriters to remain short much past the T+3 settlement of the IPO (if they did how do they deliver stock? I think they fail. Whatever).

** Which? Does Fa-, sorry, do recent IPO issuers strike you as naïve and trusting?

*** When was the last time there were eight thousand news articles about greenshoes?

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101 Responses to “This Is A Post About Greenshoes”

  1. Ping St. Paddy says:

    Any idea where I could find some of those shoes for my traders?

  2. .Bo says:

    Misleading headline.

    -R. Ryan

  3. Subtle Pitching? says:

    Was this all a subtle way of saying that Matt Levine and Dealbreaker also have Bloombergs and minds and should underwrite the next big tech deal?

  4. Matt Hurts My Eyes says:

    My first time commenting on a Matt post:

    1. Matt – – less (as in words, sentences and paragraphs) would be appreciated.

    2. For how incredibly (anally) thorough you were, you didn't mention an important fact about green shoe / overallotment options, and that is the profit or loss on stabilization is for the SYNDICATE, not the stabilization underwrite. When the trade clears between the underwriters (management fees, selling concessions, underwriting fees – which totaled 1.0% here) within 30 days of the IPO, MS will send out either a profit or a loss to ALL underwriters through the underwriting fee. Admittedly, MS, JPM and GS will have ~70-80% of the profit or loss, but my point is there is an accounting among the underwriters as to the profitability or loss on the stabilization activity. No way is MS sending huge profit checks out.

  5. guest says:

    Matt nice job of explaining what some of us know but most WSJ/NYT/CNBC journalists and readers don't.
    Having been through this process with more than one deal, I would fault MS for a poor job of reading true investor interest– one of the most essential jobs of the bookrunning manager. This was probably tougher than most due to excessive hype. But the bookrunner's job is to understand demand. Sloughing it off to retail at the last minute is inexcusable. Don't tell me about excessive valuation. MS ECM should have done a much better job at gauging institutional interest.

  6. qwer says:

    Congratulations Matt, you have turned DB into NYT. Who the fuck on DB does not know what is a Greenshoe option?

  7. John Gill says:

    Good article; I enjoy your pieces without having to take the piss out of every single one of them.

  8. UFO says:

    That's a helluva elevator pitch dude

    – dayum

  9. Stubbs says:

    Reading Matt's posts is much like getting married. You know it's not bad, but at the same time you realize you're throwing away years of your life for limited benefit. That said, everyone needs a Bess on the side.

    If someone can summarize the above in 160 characters or less, it would be much appreciated.

  10. VonSloneker says:

    That Felix Salmon fucker called our boy Matt's post "wonky"…tonight he sleeps with the fishes.

    – DB Enforcement Crew

  11. L.L. says:

    My products are flying off shelves! Thanks for the coverage, Matt!

    -Lenny Leprechaun, Cobbler to the Elves

  12. obvious says:

    The reason everyone is talking about the Greenshoe is as follows:

    The underwriter typically maximizes their IPO business by typically underpricing the offering relative to true market demand which produces a "pop" on the offering. The pop is intended as a giveback to their best institutional investor clients at the (implicit) cost of the Issuer (who hasn't a clue what the real demand is). Also the underpricing insures that any hard underwriting commitment is never triggered.

    So important is the pop that they invented the Greenshoe whereby the Issuer gets short some optionality on their own stock with K=issue price. Since the Issuer never has to recognize the cost of this on their books, the fee carries less pain. Also since the IPO is typically underpriced, the k=ipo options are typically way out of the money so are less valuable. However having the option gives the ability of the underwriters to support an ipo that starts out wobbly.

    However this was no typical IPO. We are headed into stormy market waters and the investors in this business were desperate to monetize their investment on the backs of greater fooles so the IPO had to be rushed and was overpriced even in front of all the hype. When the insiders saw the "aggresive" valuation the syndicate rushed to dump more shares on the rubes and increased the size of the offering and at least some institutional buyers smelled a rat so this garbage was shoved down the throats of the unsuspecting retail muppets.

    Thus in this case the Greenshoe was particularly valuable (which is why everyone is talking about it). Now add in the mix of HFT algos who were frontrunning the massive syndicate bid at 38.00 in effect stealing the gamma value of the Greenshoe and then the syndicate put at 38 was exercised in large size. The syndicate probably lost a boatload defending and some speculate their losses exceeded the listing fees because cap markets people have no idea what is optionality (or value).

    So the Greenshoe had real value, that value was usurped by the HFT (was GS one of them?), the Syndicate got stuffed, but the insiders cashed out in large size, the retail muppets got royally stuffed and so it goes.

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    Can we never give the equity guys anything to talk about again? Dear God. If people need a place to pontificate about reasonably simple/straightforward topics, either hit up your Ed Jones client list and let 'em know, or ship it over to Yahoo Finance. We've got Matt on payroll for longwinded explanations, when necessary.

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