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    Its never too early for brains!

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    How many op-eds does El-Erian write a year? How many interviews? How much time schmoozing with pols? My guess is that El-Erian could squeeze in a few games if he didn't spend all that time trying to boost his ego/celebrity. Looking at returns is probably better than checking the alarm clock. Total douche, amazing that anyone would pay for it.

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    These guys work in markets on the West Coast. Getting in at 6:00 is late. Everyone should be in by 4:00.

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