Morgan Stanley ‘Rainmakers’ Might Quit Because Their Computers Don’t Work

They’re not there yet, however; first, they’re going to send James Gorman a strongly worded letter about the issue and make a decision based on his response. They do sound pretty miffed though, so God help the guy if his answer is anything but “I’ve got my tool kit and I’m on the way over.”

Several dozen Morgan Stanley Smith Barney advisers who manage tens of billions of dollars of client money are considering leaving the firm, saying that widespread technology problems have made it very difficult for them to do their jobs, according to people familiar with the matter. The group has hired a lawyer to argue that they should be able to keep lucrative retention payments even if they quit, and they have also drafted a letter to Morgan Stanley CEO James Gorman outlining their concerns, though the letter has not yet been sent, the sources said.

Rebecca Rothstein, one of the firm’s top advisers based in Beverly Hills, spoke to him on the group’s behalf, two sources familiar with the conversation said. Rothstein, who is close to Gorman and not part of the group, told him about the difficulties advisers and their clients are having – from trading delays and problems with foreign currency transactions to inaccurate account statements and bounced checks – and warned the group was planning to quit, one of the sources said…Morgan Stanley spokesman James Wiggins said the firm was aware that brokers have been voicing complaints about the new technology, but did not know anything about this specific group of advisers. “No such letter has been sent to management and no mass exodus has been threatened,” he said. “Management’s door is always open to discuss with any concerns they may have.”

Morgan Stanley Smith Barney Rainmakers Consider Exit [Reuters]

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    I guess we are about to find out the costs associated with the savings they made when they outsourced all those technology jobs to India

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  3. 25thHourTrader says:

    "If the advisers decide to leave, they will ask to keep the retention awards – nine-year forgivable loans they received in two lump sums in 2010 and 2012 – that are supposed to be repaid if they quit"

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    "The group has hired a lawyer to argue that they should be able to keep lucrative retention payments even if they quit, and they have also drafted a letter to Morgan Stanley CEO James Gorman outlining their concerns, though the letter has not yet been sent, the sources said, because their email doesn't work, and no one knows how to mail a letter anymore."

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    Ha. Retail

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  6. Guest says:

    I quit because another firm wrote me a giant check. The computers not working is just some bullshit I tell clients so I can pimp their accounts over to my new firm.

    -Morgan Stanley rainmaker

  7. Dr. Gorvil says:

    Well, if you'll give us a bit to work on these IT issues, we'll consider offering bonuses of up to… $1 million for the whole group of you, no?

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    If the so-called rainmakers didn't quit over this long weekend, they are never going to quit. Bunch of whining malcontents.

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    Did you turn it on and off before complaining?

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