Timberwolf

  • 22 Oct 2012 at 4:22 PM

Timberwolf Continues To Stalk Goldman Sachs

Financial product salespeople, if they know what’s good for them, should be thankful for car dealers. Not used car dealers, either, new car dealers: because of the world’s familiarity with their business model, if you sell a client a product at 100 and then tell them the next day that it’s worth 95, you have at least some outside shot at pacifying them by explaining, slowly and patronizingly, “it’s like buying a car: the price drops as soon as you drive it off the lot.”

I mean, that’s true of buying a toaster or a bunch of carrots, too, but nobody marks those to market, so. I guess people do mark their cars to market? That seems to be a thing. In any case, “mumble mumble mumble drive it off the lot” sounds much better than the alternative, which goes something like “yeah, we thought it was worth 95 but we sold it to you at 100, problem?”

Remember Timberwolf? Timberwolf was an RMBS CDO that Goldman Sachs marketed. It was also “one shitty deal,” in Tom Montag’s immortal words, and some of it was sold it to some Australians with the buzzword-salad name Basis Yield Alpha Fund (Master), and Tom Montag was right, so, that worked out poorly for Basis Yield Alpha Fund (Master). Working out poorly was a feature of a lot of Basis Yield Alpha Fund (Master) investments; before they bought Timberwolf they bought another MBS CDO called Point Pleasant, also from Goldman, and whereas a Timberwolf will of course rip your face off – that’s just evolution – the face-ripping they experienced from a Point Pleasant seems to have come as some surprise.1 Anyway, they sued, and while Goldman has engaged in marvelous jurisdictional kerfufflery that got it tossed from federal court, they are still in New York state court, which refused to toss it late last week.

Here, from the opinion refusing to toss the case, is Basis Yield Etc.’s core allegation: Read more »

  • 09 Jun 2010 at 11:04 AM

Goldman Faces Suit Over Timberwolf Deal

Update 12:49 pm: The Aussies have filed suit against Goldman seeking $56 million in losses and $1 billion in punitive damages.

The Crisis commission is up their ass, the SEC’s civil suit is lingering and the pundits won’t let up.

Now, Goldman Sachs may have to deal with another lawsuit from a bunch of blokes at an Australian hedge fund. Goldman has been tussling behind the scenes with lawyers from the firm, called the Basis Yield Alpha Fund, over a $100 million slice of the Goldman-sponsored Timberwolf CDO that the Aussies bought right before the shit hit the fan. Read more »